Derwent Lightfast 100 v Caran d'Ache Luminance 76
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- Опубликовано: 23 июл 2024
- Derwent have finally released the entire Derwent Lightfast range the Derwent Lightfast 100 set is now available and so in response to that I have put together this video comparing the Caran d'Ache Luminance 76 Set and the Derwent Lightfast 100 Set.
In this video I simply look at the colors available in both full sets, however if you would like to know a more detailed review comparing both the Luminance and Lightfast I have added links to my reviews below. I have also added links to my Luminance review and my Derwent Lightfast review so hopefully all the written and video reviews can help you best decide which pencil set is best for you.
Lindsay The Frugal Crafter - bit.ly/2kxsky8
Written Review - bit.ly/2kNdBPQ
Derwent Lightfast Written Review - bit.ly/2KtbQCg
Derwent Lightfast RUclips Review - bit.ly/2ItMPBM
Amazon Derwent Lightfast 72 Set - amzn.to/32rattL
Amazon Derwent Lightfast 36 Set - amzn.to/2NLG1mG
Amazon Derwent Lightfast 24 Set - amzn.to/2Lcqfmo
Amazon Derwent Lightfast 12 Set - amzn.to/2ulclF7
Derwent Lightfast and Luminance RUclips Comparison - bit.ly/2NihcOX
Derwent Lightfast and Luminance Written Comparison - bit.ly/2lNXDBy
Caran d’Ache Luminance Written Review - bit.ly/2jdlTeg
Caran d’Ache Luminance RUclips Review - bit.ly/2iyT4KW
Amazon Luminance 20 Set - amzn.to/2Avczg4
Amazon Luminance 76 Set - amzn.to/2tWfEkW
Amazon Luminance 40 Set - amzn.to/2tJsVy2
Amazon Luminance 12 Set - amzn.to/2Ob2w3o
Amazon Luminance 76 Box Set - amzn.to/2Su0teq
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nice comparison! Thanks for the shout out, it was very kind of you:)
I Loved the color swatch idea with the holes. I plan on doing this for mine as well! I’m waiting for the rest of my lightfast pencils to arrive.
Thank you so much for all your insights and demonstrations Harry, it is very helpful to see pencils compared side by side. Wishing you and your family easier times.
Just discovered the Caran d’ ache luminous yesterday at the art store. After swatching the shade ‘Scarlet’ I was floored. This video has been so helpful to get further insight. Going to check out your other video on the pencils.
I have the 76 Luminance and the two 36 sets of Lightfast and I must say I prefer the Derwent Lightfast for my artistic needs. I prefer to draw wildlife and I think the Lightfast colours lean more to my taste than the Caran D'Ache Luminance do. However, having said that, I did three portraits using the Luminance on Stonehenge paper and the colours were definitely suited to skin tones. I've used both the Lightfast and the Luminance for botanical work and the colours in both are so beautiful, I'm spoilt for choice!
Once again, a brilliant video Harry.... thanks so much for all your hard work! It makes choosing art supplies so much easier! :)
Thank you for this review Harry I have recently found your channel and it is great. I have watched this review a couple of times now as planning to use my savings on a couple of sets of one coloured pencils and one water coloured pencils, have saved for ages and keep moving from one set to another. It is a difficult choice so your comparison and the time you took to do the swatch carts was very much appreciated. Thank you
. :)
Man do I really want the full set of Lightfast!! Thanks for the look at them Harry ❤️
I love your review! I do love these pencils, I've had a few breakage issues with grass green and magenta. I love the colours and I love making new colours. They layer so beautifully and effortlessly! Luminance were my favourite but these are my new favourite. I've been experiencing mixing the luminance with the light-fast! I love colour pencils ☺️
Really a beautiful set! Still working on improving my skills before I work my way up to a high quality set like Derwent or Caran d'Ache! Your vids are always a great tutorial on using these quality pencils. Thanks for posting!
Rometiklan Thank you so much my friend for your kind comment.
Just received a set of 40 luminance and wasn’t impressed. The texture of the core varies wildly. Some are crumbly and others scratchy. I also purchased a 12 set of lightfast which are flawless. If you’re trying to decide between the two, get the lightfast!
Update: purchased the 72 lightfast set, couldn’t be happier! I just wish someone here sold them open stock (Toronto)
I feel the same I am not impressed with Luminance some are dry and scratchy. I kinda wish I didn't get the full set and for me there are too many pale shades. I like the Derwent much better, but it seems I use Prismacolor and Polys the most.
Polychromos are great as well. Best bang for buck I would say, and much easier to find.
Helloo, I see that you posted a comment a year ago but I find it helpful and would want to ask. 🙂It's been months I am deciding which set to buy - Polychromos or Lightfast? In your opinion, which one is more versatile or which one you like more? I draw landscapes, flowers or animals... and very sparingly some portrait, from time to time.
I agree with you! I do not regret having chosen the Derwent Lightfast! I love them! they are smooth, creamy, blend well! and you don't have to add as many layers to achieve what you want! I have the polychromos, because they are transparent, and they make fine lines, I also have the Prismacolors but only the ones with a good lightfastness! but, when I tried the lightfast ones, I compare them with a mix between the polys and the Prisms, I bought the set of 36... and now I'm buying them open stock in the online stores that have them cheap. I would have liked to buy the set of 72🤪🤤
I think everyone is different and it depends on what you enjoy working on. I have all three Luminance, Lightfast and Poly Chromos and I love the Luminance best, especially for skin, but as I learn fur and use sanded grain paper and powder blender more, Poly Chromos are now becoming a big time love affair. I have a full box set of Lightfast-I don't reach for them all that much. Not a big fan. I feel they are too soft to be oils and to hard to blend. Not really my favorites and they are crazy expensive now, I got mine for about half the price they are going for now
Thanks Harry, this IS the review I've been waiting for! Your photos of the full 100 colours of the Lightfast has gone straight into my colour chart file. I have so many of the Derwent pencils & I love them, quite frankly it is only the Artist range that I really can't get on with. So, short of my numbers coming up, I won't be splurging on the full set, but I am open to buying a few of them open stock to complement the pencils I already own. I've studied the charts extensively previously & noticed they had carried over 40 shades from their other pencil sets into the Lightfast, so I will be looking for the other unique colours. Such a shame that that pink never made the cut, it is beautiful!
Hi Jude thank you so much my friend fo such a kind comment, I really appreciate it. First of I completely agree about the pink, it is a really lovely Color and a lot of botanical artists would have loved, but I have no idea why it didn’t make the grade. I know what you mean regarding the Derwent Artist pencils, I personally love them but I know so many struggle a bit with them and I can completely understand why. This is why I personal think there is no such thing as a terrible set of colored pencils, because what I find amazing, another artist might not like them at all.
On my review video I made a list of the colors that could be found in the Lightfast 100 set that could be found in other sets across the range, but I only included those pencils that had the exact same pigment name in the pencils and not what the colors looked like visually. I have a lot of reviews on the go at the minute but I think I will sit down and try that some time. Again thank you so much for your wonderful support and incredibly kind comment, thank you so much
Thanks for the review! These are mighty pricey, but if I learned something from my 120 Faber-Castell polychromos set is... I don't need THAT many colors. They don't really fit on the table, are hard to manage, and in the end I almost always use the same ones. I'm glad I bought the 120 set, because now I have it and enjoy it, and I learned from that lesson. For me, the best number is around 36. So I'm probably trying both of these and mixing them with my three star polychromos in my work.
I have a 120 set of FC Polychromos and a 36 set (as well as some other brands) and almost all the colors I need are found in my 36 set, so I don't use my 120 set.
I have the 100 supersoft set but I am definetly upgrading to around 30 to 40 policromos/albrech durer (equivalent colors) and maybe 40 luminances or lightfast or museum(still deciding on these three, lol) . Big sets realy are a headache to manage
Thanks Harry, you always answer the questions that I have.
I am so glad I found your channel and thank you for posting this. It was very informative. Thanks a again.
Thanks for the great honest review...Its appreciated! 💕
Hi Harry, very informative video as usual. I need to try the Lightfast as they seem and effectively are gorgeous pencils. If I could, I'd definitely buy myself a full set of luminance and a full set of Lightfast for this Christmas LOL, but unfortunately I can't. Here in Italy, there's still no trace of the Lightfast range, unless you buy them on Amazon, but I want to try few of them first. Thank you for your effort, and oh, the multi-camera is a big plus now :)
Watching this video now to figure out what I want to get for Christmas! Really leaning towards the light fast because of you. I was wanting caran dache for almost 4+ years and I didn’t even know the derwent light fast existed 😂!
Thank you for the great review. I don't own any of these and if I was going to get a set, it would be Luminance for sure. They are more appealing to me, the palette and the softness.
Wow! I really enjoy this video! Tremendous video of the review of this two brand colored pencils pallete! Oh!! I love the color pallete set of Derwent Lightfast! I see what you said about the pink range, you're right, its not many pinks in the Derwent Lightfast range, but comparing of the Luminance...it's very close in this aspect. I really want the Derwent Lightfast, really love it. And I Love too the Carand'ache Luminance Portrait Assortment🤭🤪😅 soooo, this is my dilemma right now 🤦🏻♀️ thank you Harry for all your videos, many blessing to you and your family! 🥰🙏🏼
Hi Harry, thanks so much for this - I went to the Pencil Museum and was given 2 of the Derwent Lightfast pencils to try, they are beautiful and blend like butter. Not something I can afford right now but they would be in my top 3 pencils. I thought I would mention what I use for swatching it's a stamp set called Color Swatches by Waffle Flower Crafts. They have several different sets actually including a colour wheel. I stamp them with a waterproof black ink pad and then you have nice neat boxes. I have swatched my Inktense pencils, watercolours, brush pens and even glitter! You can buy the stamp sets easily in the UK.
Excellent reviews! Thanks.
Great information love your tips but I also was looking forward to the pinks💕 since I’d like to do magenta hot pink, ect. flowers🌺🌷 roses! Love those beautiful deep shades of pinks! So can you🙏🏼let me know which color pencils have these deep pigment colors of pinks, Especially that Beautiful one U showed us that Didn’t have a name, maybe a dark salmon? That’s the type of pinks I’d like!Thanks for your Tips👍🏼👍🏼
I don't see light blues and pinks. Well even so, I'd still like to buy this set. Thanks for the video.
I also got my set of 24 today and have already tried it.
In my set the Heather pencil is hard and can not be applied evenly :-(, otherwise the pencils are very comfortable.
From my set Heather also looks more like something old rose so rather dull grey purple.
i really appreciate your reviews
Great review! So interesting to see the colour range compared. I was thinking that about the pinks in the Derwent range too. That would be my only gripe, but it was so interesting to see you mix the colours. All my best to you and your family. X
Thank you so much Louise, it wasn’t something I had thought about until I was asked, but when I was creating the comparison charts I noticed that the Luminance didn’t have very much in the way of pale pinks. The Luminance was a little bit like the Lightfast in the sense that there was not many pale pinks, a few fleshy tones which I guess could be classed as pale pink or peach. On closer inspection, on both sets, there wasn’t very many pale blues or pale Greens either. For me personally, I think the Faber Castell Polychromos 120 Set offers the best across the board selection of pale tones. For this reason I am actually going to be doing a comparison review of the Derwent Lightfast, Caran D’Ache Luminance and Faber Castell Polychromos and maybe the Caran d’Ache Pablos. I think almost all colored pencil artists and enthusiasts would say given the chance of on,y owning three sets of colored pencils, they would select the Lightfast, Luminance and Polychromos. I know not all artists would select these three but I think a lot would.
Thank you so much for your comment and which three sets would you have and do you think I should include the Pablo in the next comparison video?
The Art Gear Guide yes, I would say the Lightfast, FB Polys , and probably Luminence would be my top 3. I don’t have the full set of Lumies though, whereas I do have the full of Lightfast and Polys. Only have a few Pablos too, but I know a lot of people like them, and use them aside the Luminence to make a bigger colour range, so including them in the review would probably be a good idea. I guess the pale pinks, pale blues, and pale greens must be hard to make really Lightfast. Which is something artists may need to take into consideration if using those colours from the FB poly range.
@@louisedavies1867 I also have the 120 set of Polychromos. But now I am confused. An artist made a lightfastness test and all yellow, red and purple faded completely although claimed as lightfast with three stars. I don’t trust this rating any more
@@emilyerdbeere9210 only caran d ache and derwent have modern lightfast ratings. polychromos are very unreliable in their charts. long story short: around 27 of their 3 stars pencils are actually equivalent to a 1 (talking about polychromos). the colord pencil asociation of america has done thoprough testing of most brands and lines, you can find the results in their book. Polychromos's chart is to be taken with a big grain of salt, not reliable. but then again, if yout hink about it, they aren't astm rated, so really with polychromos we were alays depending on trusting faber castel (which most artists did for decades now), but it was only that: trust, not actually evidence based (artists who would recommend for their lightfast qualities, qould do so based of faber castel's own chart, so it's circular reasoning, and now they have competition in the form of derwent0s lightfast and caran d ache luminance.)
really interesting as always. Thank you for taking the time to do this. Hope your family is doing better.
Wow...where have you been! I just discovered you and I have been around the colored pencil world for some time. What an amazing job that you do. I have bought so many brands of pencils which I used once and then gave away to my nieces and nephews. Lols...when do you find the time for your art? I thought that Derwent Lightfast pencil with no name was a beautiful shade. It was more of a coral color to me and I could see it standing out in botanical art which is what I do. Thank you for ALL your hard work. You feel that you are lucky in getting colored pencils to review. We are lucky as well. It all works out. I will be visiting your site a lot.
Hi Harry, yes the Caran d'Ache cover more the paper, the paper is just more full of color that I have too on my Bristol vullum paper, thank you so much and take care .
I couldn't quite hear it well, what is Chinese derma drawn white color set please at 22min slot
Hi can anyone tell me if either of these run if I use acrylic paint over them? Thank you
Would love the Derwent lightfast pencils, just can't afford them right now.
Dick Blick has the 100 set of luminence in the standard box, not the wooden box, for $287 as of March 19, 2022.
If Derwent would sell the full range in their standard tin instead of the wooden box I'd buy them because the cost difference is significant when you get the wooden box. I'd end up buying all 100 anyway, but I just can't get over the price for the box lol.
Very informative video as always, thank you.
Thank you for this video!! Regards from Costa Rica.
There are clear blender pencils for blending or burnishing, you don’t have to use white or off white.
Just wondering... I read a review that suggested using a fixative to eliminate wax bloom popping up from these pencils. Also, in the insert that comes in the tin, Derwent writes that in their sample preparation of their testing methods for lightfastness, the "Surface lightly wiped 24 hours to remove any bloom". However, these pencils are oil-based: hence, therefore and ergo, should they not be bloom-free like the Caran d'Ache Luminance or Pablos, or F.-C. Polychromos? What has been your experience with bloom with the Derwent Lightfast?
Hi Chiara.
First of all I don't think asking me this question will help you only because I personally feel all this oil and wax based pencils is a myth, well, not a myth but people take it too literally.
When I first started out reviewing art products and still to this day, I always go directly to the company to get information on the product. But back when I started I would say that a certain product was either wax or oil and it caused all manner of confusion and division in the comments section. Because of this I wanted to look into this further and so I contacted some of the larger pencil companies and was able to communicate with their Chemists.
Without obviously divulging the ingredients in the pencils, each Chemist confirmed that some pencils might have a little bit more oil or wax, but essentially there are no pencils that are just oil or wax. There are lots of different types waxes used and there are many other factors to the core of the pencil that can determine how the pencil feels when laying down color.
A fantastic example of this is, again when I first started out, I used to read and hear all the time that so called oil based pencils are hard and wax based pencils are always softer. However, perhaps the hardest cored pencil, the Derwent Artist is considered a wax based pencil.
I can't really comment on the Lightfast insert literature, I personally have not experienced bloom when using the Lightfast pencils, however, bloom also depends on the paper you use or at least it can be a contributing factor. I am sorry I haven't been very helpful in answering your question but I personally have never experienced bloom build up with Lightfast pencils. In my experience softer cored pencils can produce bloom build up and the harder the core the less likely bloom will occur, it has less to do with wax or oil content and more to do with the softness or hardness of the core.
Also a lot of the time bloom can be avoided, at least until the final stages of your work by using light layers or a toothier paper such as velum or better still a 100% cotton paper also seems to reduce bloom. If you are using a soft core pencil and immediately start with a medium to heavy pressure, bloom will occur much faster. The Lightfast pencils are creamy but their core is not super soft like the Coloursoft or Prismacolor. Sorry I couldn't offer any further help on this for you
@@TheArtGearGuide First of all, thank you Harry for taking the time not only to give me an answer, but to give me a detailed one!
Second, no need to apologize for you not being able to “offer any further help”: you were extremely helpful and your explanations answered all the questions that could have arisen from your reply.
I thought that if a pencil had more wax than oil, then it was considered a wax pencil and was prone to bloom. That is why my confusion about the Derwent Lightfast oil-based (classified as such by the company) when i read that they wipe away any bloom on the colour chart before doing the lightfastness.
I’m glad to hear that you have not experienced any bloom with the Lightfast and relieved.
I usually work with hot press paper for botanical work. Maybe I'll try using a toothier paper, just for fun, to see what kind of roses I can draw.
Again, thank you ever so much!
I’m looking for the nicest muted coloured palette I’m not concerned with ligh fastness, could you make some suggestions
If you are looking for just muted colors your best bet is to buy open stock from a range of pencil sets. The only sets you can buy that are all muted colors would be the new pastel tone sets, but you are very limited to what you can do with just a full set of pastel tones. You can’t really buy full sets of muted tone Colored Pencils because whilst muted tones are beautiful, most people require some saturated tones in there as well.
I guess the only set that would be considered muted tones that comes to mind is the Derwent Drawing Set. I’ll take a look through my notes tomorrow to see if any other sets spring to mind
Thanks for the review, Harry. Do you know when the nee box of 100 will be available for sale?
You can pre order it at cultpens, I think
I'm getting both. Well, sort of. :D I can't afford them, but I like coloured pencils, so there we are. I just ordered a bunch of Luminance from that shop you link on your site, and I won't be getting the whole Derwent Lightfast set as some of the colours exist in other sets that I already have.
The minute I get a set I take out everything that isn't acceptably lightfast and either put them in another set for my personal use, or I give them to this kids group my sensei runs at his dojo.
As near as I can figure it, these following colours are the ones in the Lightfast range that DO NOT show up in other sets. I compared to Coloursoft, Studio, Artists, Artists black and white six, Drawing, Procolour, and Inktense:
Amber Gold
Apricot
Autumn Brown
Autumn Red
Banana
Basil
Blue Violet
Bordeaux
Cherry Red
Chestnut
Cinnamon
Cloud Grey
Dark Cyan
Dark Honey
Dark Orange
Dark Turquoise
Denim
Derwent Red
Dusky Pink
Flame
Fossil Grey
Golden Sun
Granite
Ivy
Light Aqua
Light Bronze
Merlot
Mid Blue (70%)
Mid Blue
Midnight Blue (70%)
Mist
Moonstone
Mountain Green,
Natural Brown
Nightshade
Ocean Blue (Dark)
Ocean Blue
Pacific Blue
Peridot (Blue)
Peridot (Yellow)
Persian Orange
Pine
Platinum
Purple
Raisin
Sandstone
Sapphire
Scarlet
Seaweed
Sepia (Red)
Sienna
Strawberry
Taupe
Wild Lavender
I do hope Amelia's doing all right, but it's not something I like to bring up in public. It's a very delicate topic and all.
Lonita Fraser The names don’t mean anything really, it’s the pigments used that count. Natural brown in lightfast may be called something entirely different in another range (using a cheaper version of the same pigment number.)
@@Kyomiibrown
That's not the case with Derwent. Their products keep colour and name pairing throughout their ranges, the artist grade ones. I don't include ones that are not.
@@Kyomiibrown
The colours between sets that I have, show little difference in my estimation, at least not any that would make any difference to me.
the best pallete are both together plus polychromos 120. Most the colors are different - except maybe for the pure yellows. But, for a painting, you can have 300 collors and you will probably never use the pure collor, but a mix of at least 2
Hi Harry, you will have to update this review in the future since the luminance are adding 24 new colours to the range in july so it becomes 100 colours :)
If you follow me on instagram and Facebook I put up a colour chart of the new colours that Caran D’Ache sent out and I will be reviewing the new colours the end of this month mate.
thank you so incredibly much for the incredible comparison. May i ask, anyone unhappy with the derwent lightfast or experience variations with some colours? I have Lumi, and 3 open stock lightfast pencils. I tried them on several papers and one pencils in particular felt odd- almost clumpy(?). And im not sure i particularly liked the feeling of them. Is it just because the are different than what im used to? Is it too few pencils to really test them (i have tried 3 open stock in other brands and could tell i loved them) . Anyone not like them? Is it a dud pencil!?! Lol
I havent got experience with Derwent Brand because every friend warned me to try or buy something from them. Nice video
how about adding details ??
i saw neeyellow arts on youtube
he can add white highlight on top of other colour with polychromos
Hi Nanez my friend, I know the artist you are referring to Neeyellow is an absolutely wonderful artist, I always watch his videos, such an amazing talent. Regarding your question, you can indeed add details with the Lightfast and mainly because, alothough the Lightfast pencils lay down like a rich a creamy buttery feel, they actually still have quite a firm core, which allows for adding detail such as white over the top of Van Dyke Brown etc. I am so sorry I didn’t add this in my video however, I will be doing another comparison video of the Derwent Lightfast, Caran d’Ache Luminance and the Faber Castell Polychromos and perhaps the Caran d’Ache Pablos, I will definitely include this test in that review.
Thank you so much for you comment and for your support, I really appreciate it my friend.
thank you so much
i highly appreciate it
I want that reddish pink pencil😍
Thanks Harry, that was awesome as always. Have you compared Lightfast to Polychromous before?
Hi there Mehdi thank you so much for the wonderfully kind comment. I haven’t done a comparison yet with the Faber Castell Polychromos, however I am going to be comparing the Derwent Lightfast, Caran d’Ache Luminance and the Faber Castell Polychromos and I might also add in the comparison the Caran D’Ache Pablo 120 Set.
The Art Gear Guide that’d be awesome. Both comparison and how one can mix them together in an art work, considering each has its own unique features and properties.
The Art Gear Guide Looking forward to this! And thank you for your informative videos :)
Awsome video Harry. Thank you for taking the time to do this. Regarding that "unused" Lightfast Colour: imaging you have 101 lightfast pencils. How are you going to market that? And what kind of box do you sell them in?
Great review, what a shame that pink didn't make it to the final set, maybe they'll introduce some more colours later on.
Silkspinner I agree i’ve been looking forward for them different shades of pink myself💗👍🏼
I know that pink is a very fugitive colour which fades so it may be hard to get a range of stable pink colours. Caran d'ache only has one pink colour in their Luminance range, though more in their Pablo range, but not sure of their lightfast rating. I would rather have had one less of the tan colours and the pink instead. Maybe Harry could have a quiet word in Derwent's ear and the pink pencil could be released as open stock.
Silkspinner OK Thanks. Good to know🙏🏼
I got the 76 set from caran D'ache waiting for them
Hi Harry, can you please tell me where I can buy the 100 set of derwent lightfast set. I have been searching since I saw this video last month.
I already have the first 36 set but happy to buy the100. Thanks in advance. Take care. 🤗🖍
Hi Janet you can order the set directly from Derwent’s Web site or you can get the set significantly cheaper from Cult Pens www.cultpens.com/i/q/DW67336/derwent-lightfast-coloured-pencils-wooden-box-of-100 but Cult Pens also have a variation of sets to help those who purchased the first 36 set increase their collection to the 100 set without having to re-buy check out the link I’ve provided and you should find exactly what you need
Thanks Harry, I am in Perth Australia so I know it will be a while before they be available here. I had a holiday to England in July this year and we made a special 2 1/2 hour trip to the
Lake diistrict to get the 2nd 36 set, only to find they hadn't yet released them. So disappointed I think i missed them by a couple of weeks. 😣😠
I was really wanting to possibly buy the 100 set, but I don't want to pay that much just because they are in a wooden box, which i don't really need to have...and I'm guessing buying the ones that arent in the 72 set open stock would be a small fortune. Hmm, a shame. I'm debating in my head between these and the Luminance or even Pablos. Now I don't know what to do as I want this to be my main set of pencils, to use in combo with my Polys and sometimes even Prismas. Dammit Derwent! lol
Janet Brown We get ripped off in Australia with art supplies, both in price and in product availability!
I watch the frugalcrafter channel...lol that's nice to know we bit like the channel and the information she provides.....is the derwert lightest made in Germany???
No the Derwent Lightfast are made in the Derwent Factory here in the UK which is just outside a small town called Keswick
Where did you get the koh i moor sticker mate?
One of the times Koh-I-Noor sent something out for me to review they placed it in the set. I think if you check out their website they might have them on there or failing that, at the bottom of their site is a customer service email address, email them and ask them and I am sure they will send some out to you because at the end of the day it’s advertising in a strange way for them.
@@TheArtGearGuide thanks mate
Would look good on the toolbox I have a sticker addiction
I don't know if it's just the camera, but there seems to be a lot of colours that are almost exactly the same in the lightfast set
I think its most noticeable with the darker blues and yellows
Even though Derwent LFhad 100 shades their color distribution is not balanced very less skintones too much of earths .But Luminance range is well balanced(even its only 76) right from skintones,blues,purples,reds,greys etc.its only my opininon
Well the luminance has 24 new colours coming in july, coming up to 100 colours. I think there are too many skintone colours in the luminance, not enough dark colours such as dark purples, mid tone greens, and muted colours is limited also.
I ordered the full set in 3 instalments (36+36+28). I just got the first package - the 28 new pencils and I have to say that I'm a bit disappointed - in more than half of the pencils the pigment is not centred (I have pictures!). I have other brands and don't have this problem there. This should not happen in a top scale pencils.
Hi Rebecca, I am sorry to hear this, I’d love to see the photos, I was always under the impression that you could only see whether or not a core was centred by looking at the end of the pencil as in the case with the Prismacolor pencils, but the Luminance and Lightfast pencils are all capped and we are unable to see the core. Obviously we can see the core via the actual sharpened end, but it is almost impossible to see how centred the core is from this view, I’ve been sat at my desk since seeing your comment trying to look at the pencils and see if I can determine if they are centred or not. That being said, a core being centred or not only impacts the sharpening ability of the pencil, so it is widely considered an off centred core will always cause the core to break when sharpening.
That being said I have yet to have a single Lightfast or Luminance pencil break when sharpening. Have you had any of your off centred pencils break whilst sharpening? If so, you should record this happening and reach out to Derwent. Also, if half your pencils are off centred causing half of them to break when sharpening, show me the clip and I will do my very best to contact Derwent on your behalf as that is quite a bad thing considering the price of the pencils. You can send the clip to my email address if you like theartgearguide@gmail.com or if you want to share your findings publicly you can share it on my Facebook page. This is quite a serious issue given half your pencils are in this situation.
I first learned about the significance of a centred core when everyone was talking about the Prismacolor Premier pencils braking quite frequently. Lots of artists would buy their Prismacolor pencils and protect them completely, never dropping them and still the cores would break when sharpening, that was when the centred core theory materialised, because as the pencil turned in the sharpener, rather than turning in a full circle, it would almost wobble, creating an oval effect, causing pressure on the core of the pencil which cause the core to snap.
Hi Rebecca, probably these newly launched pencils still have some problems regarding the productive process. There might be some batches that are defective and this is surely an issue that will be fixed over time. The first batches of almost every product on Earth, including super expensive ones, may present some issues. And as Harry said, the core of the Lightfast is not as soft and creamy as the Prismacolor one, so it wouldn't probably make any difference, specially if you use hand crank sharpeners or you are careful when sharpening. Keep updating us if you experience some breakage issues and stay well :)
I've had problems over the years with Derwent! I bought the 72 set and some of the extra 28 and I've had a few breakage issues, I'm so careful sharpening my pencils. I've also had a violet put in other Derwent sets on occasion, obviously they've run out of the correct colour and they always use violet as a replacement! I do love these pencils though, it's like they were made for me 😉
I buy open stock on paperstory , they are 2.99 as compared £4. 89 on Amazon, it is quick delivery sorry , it is luminance I am talking about I bought them regularly I don't fancy £ 2.00 for a set
I like both pencils but so much expensive..
Thank you for this test. Have you made a lightfast test already? These pencil are very expensive. I wonder if they are better than Polychromos, which are rated very lightfast. But for all that the Polychromos fade in the sunlight, the Luminance, too. It was with red hue of different brands in a test of 7 days in sunlight. I am very disappointed because both brands are expensive, too. In comparison cheaper brands were less sensitive.
that i think is a Coral Pink i think!
Obrigado
They are both beautiful sets. The Lightfast have some great browns, dark browns. Luminence is rather light on those colours. Neither have what I would call great greens. I prefer the Procolour or Artist pencils for greens. But they won't have the lightfast qualities for sold artwork I suppose. At least it's relatively easy to mix greens for yourself. Easier than pinks I think. If I wanted a pink and intended to mix it I'd start with a red rather than those oddly salmon pinks that both sets have. It just goes to show how hard it is to make a lightfast pink.
I'm fan of Derwent Brand..
I'm tempted to buy the 100 lightfast pencils but I'm being a tight ass lol
I bought them 🤩
Look......28:33....Luminance on the left, Lightfast on the right....Don't know about you but the Luminance are neonish and Construction worker colors....I would stick w/Lightfast only
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i prefer Derwent Lightfatst pencils over Caran D'ache Luminance...Caran D'ache is super expensive. i went on the carandash.com i saw a fountain pen for $11,500 and a roller pen for $10,250 that's when i realized that Caran D'ache in on high crack
It has become a really difficult thing now to select a favourite pencil between the Derwent Lightfast and the Caran d'Ache Luminance and that is a good thing. Before the Lightfast, so may Coloured Pencil artists either used the Luminance or the Faber Castell Polychromos, but the Lightfast pencils are so amazing they have to be included in the top tier.
Some of the prices on the Caran d'Ache website are unbelievable, but as far as the colored pencils are concerned you can get sets much cheaper on eBay and Amazon. However, you are right about the price of the pens, I have wanted a really nice fountain pen for ages and I looked at Caran d'Ache and I just couldn't believe the prices of some pens, you could buy a car for the price of some pens lol.
Any way mate thank you so much for stopping by and commenting
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For the vast majority, Derwent are not financially viable due to them not beiing widely available as open stock. Faber Castell Polychromos are better in every respect and together with Caran d Ache luminunce form the perfect partner. They might be dearer than Derwent at the outset but work out far cheaper when looking for replacements. Do people really want to buy a ton of pencils they will never ever use when looking for replacements? Both Derwent and Faber Castell use the Blue Wool Lightfast scale which is the standard for art materials. Polychromos are marked with stars, two 1 star pencils are in the 3 -4 range with none being lower. 102 carry 3 stars and are in the highest rating of 7-8. 16 carry 2 stars which is 5 - 6 rating. Introduced in 1908, the Polychromos have stood the test of real time.
polychromos star ratings are highly unreliable and not up to modern standards (around 27 of their three stars are actually equivalent to a 1, which is unacceptable). plus, the derwent lightfast are inded aviable openstock, depends on the stores were you live.
@@magical571 I don't know where you got your info from but I have not been able to find any info to support what you have stated regarding the lightfastness of the Polychromos. The lightfastness of Polychromos have now been able to stand the test of real time, having been in production for over a hundred years, 1908. Initially Derwent weren't really interested in Lightfastness as they would not increase the range of their lightfast Drawing pencil series from just 24. They began as 18 and only increased to 24 in the 1990s. The Lightfast range only began production in 2018. For the vast majority, Derwent are not widely available as open stock as shops appear to prefer not to carry them that way. This is not to say that Derwent are bad pencils, it's just that they need to work harder to encourage sellers to carry the open stock. Until they do, they are not viable for the vast majority. I will add that, like Derwent, Faber Castel use the Blue Wool scale with none of the pencils having a rating of 1. The lowest is in the 3 - 4 range, marked with 1 star. The Blue wool scale is a standard used in art materials, though originally designed for wool. In view of what you stated, my initial post has ben editted to show the true situation.
po języku polski kredki. po język angielsku crajons. po języka kuby antosa farby.
I don’t care about the lightfastness, I think it’s a bunch of crap.
Talk too much about nothing
I’ll do my best to take on board your critique and implement in other videos
The Luminance any day......