Hi Everyone. Lots of people have asked about the wood in the background in a few of the shots. Check out my other channel here for all my wood/logging projects: ruclips.net/channel/UCTdPTXTKNC0BzFK9n1SmbbQ
Run a pin-pointer or larger metal detector over the table of crushed rocks and you will get a quicker find of any gold. Use your processing time wiser with the right tools!
Since you are taking a separate step of searching the quartz pebbles - I seriously would have done that on a wood table then used a metal detector and a pinpointer. Always love your new videos - seem to learn something every time. Thanks.
Jason: I would be very wary of the 56 grams/ton analysis. Not because you did anything wrong or because of a math error, but because when I watched the previous video, you only took the best-looking samples back down the mountain with you. Those samples undoubtedly were 56g/ton, but the vein as a whole is unknown and probably a lot lower. 60 years ago when I took analytical chemistry about half the course was spent on sampling. Great videos by the way.
@@stopthephilosophicalzombie9017 yeap, you're right. My bad.. I thought he was hoping those surface samples would be roughly representative of the veins underground.
Thanks for the video....seems like an awful lot of energy goes into making these videos for us to witness. thank you for doing what you do we appreciate it!
I would expect a better result from the tube mill could be obtained by using mixed size media (3", 2.5", 2", 1.5", and/or 1"). That would allow the smaller media to fit the gaps inherent with the larger media and result in a more uniform result from the crushing. Also, loading your mill with about 25% solids you get better life from the media and more uniform crushing. Here is a good rule of thumb: The starting point for ball mill media and solids charging generally starts as follows: * 50% media charge * Assuming 26% void space between spherical balls (non-spherical, irregularly shaped and mixed-size media will increase or decrease the free space) * 50% x 26% = 13% free space * Add to this another 10%-15% above the ball charge for total of 23% to 25% product loading Most solids will decrease in volume as the particle size is reduced, so you may have to add more solids and check the solids volume again after a few hours. Once the quantity is finally determined, you can simply load the mill with the total amount of solids during the initial mill charging.
Jason you are awesome . Hope you find some free gold too. 2 oz per ton is a great find ! You seem to have a huge amount of equipment. Have you any idea how much momey you have invested? I know you have to pay for electricity also. How much per ton does it take money wise? Operating costs. Plus wear and tare? Alot to figure out i know. As a small operation i assume you have to consider the costs. I assume you are doing well with the value of 2oz per ton. It must take some time to process a ton of ore also. Any idea of how long it takes to process a ton of ore? What do you do with your waste rock? There are tons of people in California who dont like miners. They say there mining messes with drinking water. I assume you dont have those regulations that plauge hard rock gold miners in California.
@Loyal Yeah you’re right. He needs different sized balls to fill in the gaps created by the large balls and keep missing the pebbles that make it through.
Jason, just a couple of observations. 1. A mix of sizes of balls will eliminate your rounded stones. 2. Almost no iron staining in your original samples so I suspect all your metal filings picked up by the magnet were parts of the tube wall and balls. 3. Visible gold in quartz is far more valuable as jewelry than as gold dust. 4. High grading (selecting promising rock) destroys any ounces per ton consideration of the mine, itself. I always enjoy your tenacity. Keep up the good work.
Wish I lived near you. I'd love to have a good friend like you. Super smart and know how to make value from nature while still preserving nature. Jason your a good person man.
That was very interesting. Now I know why gold is so valuable. Hauling a ton of rocks down a mountain is just the beginning. Wait, climbing the mountain to see if there is gold is the beginning. Wait, killing the crazy old guy to get his map is the beginning.
Thanks for all your efforts and teaching. Learning a great deal. We are all on edge these days but you are actually there in some videos and right at it! Keep it real in an unreal world
Hi! I'm here thanks to Ghost Town Living. I decided to look on your channel and first thing that I saw was searching for gold... that's EPIC! I love that kind of stuff, and I really enjoyed watching both parts of finding and melting it. That gold piece in quartz looked very cool, if I was there I would just put that quartz with gold on my shelf :D Few weeks ago there was my "debut" in finding some small quartz crystals here in Poland, nothing spectacular but I was very happy with all small thing that I was able to find. Greetings!
So you're basically getting 1 dollar a pound for going up that mountain, hiking down 2000 pounds of rock, spending the next entire day extracting the gold from the rock. Then you have to take into account you equipment costs, wear and tear, up keep. I don't know Jason, I think fry cook at the local McDonalds is still a bit more profitable and less risky occupation, but I did enjoy watching the two video's on this operation.
I posted on one of your other videos a long milling process where I worked in a gold mine mill. We had two ball mills that 10 men could fit inside. Attatched to each ball mill we had clarifiers that would allow the "talc" fine type ore through. The rest was returned by conveyor belt to pass through the ball mill again.
Great video. Like getting to see the total process. I do something similar when spreading on the table but I use my little Falcon MD20 metal detector and it finds those very small pieces quite easily. Great work.👍
Very Interesting and fun to watch. You did a fine job in description and your knowledge kept my wife and I following along like a tutorial. Thanks for sharing your journey and we look forward to more of your explorations in hopes of you hitting the mother load. Peace
The fine powder protects the smaller rocks once the ratio gets to a certain point. I think your idea of letting the talcum powder size stuff flow out will solve that problem
there are still rocks because you need more time for the crusher todo its work. and btw it is still considered a ball mill weather it rotates or vibrates. put a small mesh screen on 1 end only about 20% so you can collect the dust and add more material ..
1) Correct me if I'm wrong, but that 56 g/t is not a realistic number, as that sample consisted of hand-picked samples of gold-bearing rock. To set up an operation in that area, one might have to dig 1/2 ton of dirt just to get that much gold-bearing host rock, right? 2) Rather than sort through that table full of stones by hand, looking for gold, wouldn't it be a lot easier to use a metal detector? Just run it over the spread-out pile and pick up the hot rocks. 3) Since you're gonna pan that crushed powder out of the tube mill anyway, to get the stuff out, use a hose and wash it into a bucket. Maybe use a brush too, to make sure to get everything out of the mill.
How to find gold Part 1 was great and I was glad to see you didn't tip yourself over and go bouncing down the cliff !! I hope you wore your safety glasses while you ran the ore through the jaw crusher. I've got pits in my glasses where chunks have jumped out and hit the lenses. Beautiful specimen in the slab !! Be sure to include smaller diameter balls in the media, down to at least .25 dia. of your larger balls - usually in a full time ball style mill/crusher the media breaks down over time and it's an eyeball magic type of estimate on the media size needed. If you are getting larger chunks, then a smaller media mixed in is indicated.
Hey Jason, great presentation of what one goes through to find those AU 'values'. And yet the 'peanut gallery' offers their suggestions (tho most have probably never milled any ore at all). I'd like to know what's the smallest viable 'vibrating mill' that could be constructed for a very small operation? So.. I'm off to your site with my query. Thanks for a great video!
I saw more gold right there in a piece right next to the rock that had gold in it! I wouldn't have given up so easy.. those small rocks needed another go thru of a hammer mill and ran thru your water shaker table to see what you found! 😉
haha, looking through piles of rock is something ive been doing for years now. (recently with a bit of sapphire ore out of Montana, Yogo dyke, and some diamondiferous lamproite form Arkansas. i found over 150 sapphires in the boxes of ore i bought, one was found in my 1/4 inch screen while wet sifting haha. i kept all the silt that the material broke up and or polished off the material while using my rock tumbler to break it all up. pretty epic volume of sapphires form 5 boxes of ore for $99 each haha. i also have over 150 yards worth of Slate that i am sorting by size, by hand, and or via a 3/4 expanded metal mesh i put o a frame that fit over my tractor bucket i coudl just shovel right in to soft out the small sizes and the dirt form my pile. still got a huge volume to go through haha, but it works great. its a heck of a process, but i find some nice samples in my pile for my sample collection, but the stone is being used to build slate terraces using steel and concrete for structure. got many more similar projects to go for my property haha. but i think by there end, i will have handled every single stone of the pile. how ever many Millions there are, from 200 pound slabs, to half inch grains or less lol...
Mate that cannon ball mill is a winner, you should mass produce small vrsions and small refining tables for computer scrap.....Be interesting to chuck 20 motherboards with RAMS in and see what comes out on the table.
Maybe set the whole tube mill up on a bit of a see saw to run the ore back and forth as you like. Just put one of those rods under the base. Might find that you getmore crushing done if you throw some odd shapes in with the steel balls too. Cubes, pyramids, cylinders, M&M shapes, angle iron sections cut at odd angles to make points, hammer heads,, or maybe different sized balls. I think the gravelly stuff won't find hide hols then. I think your gravels are riding in the voids that always form amongst spheres.
Loving these videos! Thank you for these! At one point when you're showing a piece of gold in your palm I see '714' then something else written on your palm. Strange observation probably. Just curious.
Hey Jason, I am catching up on some of your videos. Question where can you find the steel balls. I have seen on another video where they used a concrete mixer with the steel balls in it to crush up ore and they recovered some fine gold. Tia. Also love the videos and it is taking me a while to catch up on them.
So much effort, time and energy required to process so much material and then arrive at such a small amount of Gold. If it pays out in profit at the end, I guess it's worth it.
Hi Everyone. Lots of people have asked about the wood in the background in a few of the shots. Check out my other channel here for all my wood/logging projects: ruclips.net/channel/UCTdPTXTKNC0BzFK9n1SmbbQ
really interesting video. thank you
hello
I saw that thats pretty cool. Make me a small shaker table with the wood 😜
What do you think about using shapes like M&M balls, or equilateral pyramids, or large and small balls at once?
These videos gives one an appreciation of just how much work it takes to produce an ounce of gold. Not as easy as it sounds.
Or two ounces
Run a pin-pointer or larger metal detector over the table of crushed rocks and you will get a quicker find of any gold.
Use your processing time wiser with the right tools!
Since you are taking a separate step of searching the quartz pebbles - I seriously would have done that on a wood table then used a metal detector and a pinpointer.
Always love your new videos - seem to learn something every time. Thanks.
I thought the same thing.
Jason: I would be very wary of the 56 grams/ton analysis. Not because you did anything wrong or because of a math error, but because when I watched the previous video, you only took the best-looking samples back down the mountain with you.
Those samples undoubtedly were 56g/ton, but the vein as a whole is unknown and probably a lot lower. 60 years ago when I took analytical chemistry about half the course was spent on sampling.
Great videos by the way.
That's exactly what I was thinking. This isn't a random sample so to speak.
Isn't that kind of a wash? Sure, it was the best-looking samples, but they also came from a discarded tailings heap.
@@user-lb8do4ew6k I thought he knocked the samples directly from a formation in the side of the mountain.
@@stopthephilosophicalzombie9017 He did..
@@stopthephilosophicalzombie9017 yeap, you're right. My bad..
I thought he was hoping those surface samples would be roughly representative of the veins underground.
You definitely have the best videos in explaining things best and showing how things work best ...
Outstanding way to start my morning with a cup of coffee and mbmm and Jason. Great content!
Thats how I ended my day!
Heck yeah
Thanks for the video....seems like an awful lot of energy goes into making these videos for us to witness. thank you for doing what you do we appreciate it!
What a great series! Loved seeing you get the ore straight from the source.
Lazy rainy Sunday...
Fresh coffee...
MBMM video! Sweet!
Thank you Jason 👍
I would expect a better result from the tube mill could be obtained by using mixed size media (3", 2.5", 2", 1.5", and/or 1"). That would allow the smaller media to fit the gaps inherent with the larger media and result in a more uniform result from the crushing. Also, loading your mill with about 25% solids you get better life from the media and more uniform crushing. Here is a good rule of thumb:
The starting point for ball mill media and solids charging generally starts as follows:
* 50% media charge
* Assuming 26% void space between spherical balls (non-spherical, irregularly shaped and mixed-size media will increase or decrease the free space)
* 50% x 26% = 13% free space
* Add to this another 10%-15% above the ball charge for total of 23% to 25% product loading
Most solids will decrease in volume as the particle size is reduced, so you may have to add more solids and check the solids volume again after a few hours. Once the quantity is finally determined, you can simply load the mill with the total amount of solids during the initial mill charging.
Jason you are awesome . Hope you find some free gold too. 2 oz per ton is a great find ! You seem to have a huge amount of equipment. Have you any idea how much momey you have invested? I know you have to pay for electricity also. How much per ton does it take money wise? Operating costs. Plus wear and tare? Alot to figure out i know. As a small operation i assume you have to consider the costs. I assume you are doing well with the value of 2oz per ton. It must take some time to process a ton of ore also. Any idea of how long it takes to process a ton of ore? What do you do with your waste rock? There are tons of people in California who dont like miners. They say there mining messes with drinking water. I assume you dont have those regulations that plauge hard rock gold miners in California.
@Loyal
Yeah you’re right. He needs different sized balls to fill in the gaps created by the large balls and keep missing the pebbles that make it through.
This is the morning content I needed. Love the channel and the knowledge shared. Waiting for more of your mine videos.
This is an awesome video, so much in it. Your time and knowledge is invaluable.
Why you don’t have more views and comments is strange.
This guy is a no-nonsense hard worker. My kind of people.
This is the first of your videos that I have watched. Very interesting and well explained. Thanks!!!
You have the coolest job in the world! I would love to do this for a living!
Go to his website and apply for a job! 👍
Been hanging for this follow up vid. Cheers Jason for taking the time to put this together.
An outstanding amount of effort for less than $50 worth of gold. Cool to watch.
Cool video I love the smelting explanation , I wish I was not so old and broken down or I would be out banging rocks
Jason, just a couple of observations. 1. A mix of sizes of balls will eliminate your rounded stones. 2. Almost no iron staining in your original samples so I suspect all your metal filings picked up by the magnet were parts of the tube wall and balls. 3. Visible gold in quartz is far more valuable as jewelry than as gold dust. 4. High grading (selecting promising rock) destroys any ounces per ton consideration of the mine, itself. I always enjoy your tenacity. Keep up the good work.
Wish I lived near you.
I'd love to have a good friend like you.
Super smart and know how to make value from nature while still preserving nature.
Jason your a good person man.
That was very interesting. Now I know why gold is so valuable. Hauling a ton of rocks down a mountain is just the beginning. Wait, climbing the mountain to see if there is gold is the beginning. Wait, killing the crazy old guy to get his map is the beginning.
Thanks for all your efforts and teaching. Learning a great deal. We are all on edge these days but you are actually there in some videos and right at it! Keep it real in an unreal world
Hi!
I'm here thanks to Ghost Town Living.
I decided to look on your channel and first thing that I saw was searching for gold... that's EPIC! I love that kind of stuff, and I really enjoyed watching both parts of finding and melting it. That gold piece in quartz looked very cool, if I was there I would just put that quartz with gold on my shelf :D Few weeks ago there was my "debut" in finding some small quartz crystals here in Poland, nothing spectacular but I was very happy with all small thing that I was able to find.
Greetings!
I think, that perhaps, keeping the sawn slabs might sell really good at the flea market/holiday craft shows type of thing, …
Thanks for the tour. Super interesting and very informative. Your setup is awesome.
So you're basically getting 1 dollar a pound for going up that mountain, hiking down 2000 pounds of rock, spending the next entire day extracting the gold from the rock. Then you have to take into account you equipment costs, wear and tear, up keep. I don't know Jason, I think fry cook at the local McDonalds is still a bit more profitable and less risky occupation, but I did enjoy watching the two video's on this operation.
Your videos are very enlightening. Thank you for all the great information and tutorials on hard rock mining! 👏🙏👊⛏⛏
I think you should try making your Mill balls like 20 sided dice, the big rocks are making their way though the shape of the spheres!
That slab of quartz with the specks of gold would sell in rock shops in Colorado for about $200.00 , if the gold was confirmed.
You are one strong and hard working dude..
I posted on one of your other videos a long milling process where I worked in a gold mine mill. We had two ball mills that 10 men could fit inside. Attatched to each ball mill we had clarifiers that would allow the "talc" fine type ore through. The rest was returned by conveyor belt to pass through the ball mill again.
Great video. Like getting to see the total process. I do something similar when spreading on the table but I use my little Falcon MD20 metal detector and it finds those very small pieces quite easily. Great work.👍
Did the iron deposit trip the sensor?
@@G4RR3TTJ yes they did. However on the Falcon, they read exactly opposite of what the gold does so it’s easy to tell them apart.
Love watching and listening to your knowledge. Thanks for doing what you do!
Looking inside the vibrating tube was one of the most mesmerizing things I’ve ever seen
Very informative vids for us novices out here to learn from.
Thanks for all the info!
Very Interesting and fun to watch. You did a fine job in description and your knowledge kept my wife and I following along like a tutorial. Thanks for sharing your journey and we look forward to more of your explorations in hopes of you hitting the mother load. Peace
Thanks for making the great videos Jason. Always looking forward to latest.
I would love to see you do a lot more videos like this. I love watching your videos! Thanks for sharing your adventure!
that was a great video!! Thank you so much for posting it! Very informative and got me really excited to search for gold!
Nice! Looks like you got yourself a profitable mine location there! Thanks for the video.
Outstanding start to finish!
Another GREAT video Jason! Learning so much here!
That was cool to see that little bead of gold in the cupel!
The fine powder protects the smaller rocks once the ratio gets to a certain point.
I think your idea of letting the talcum powder size stuff flow out will solve that problem
Good to know that vein is so rich. Your hiking was not in vain.
there are still rocks because you need more time for the crusher todo its work. and btw it is still considered a ball mill weather it rotates or vibrates. put a small mesh screen on 1 end only about 20% so you can collect the dust and add more material ..
very interesting, great information and thank you for sharing, knowing how to spot gold veins is definitely an asset.
Always a pleasure !
We want more videos from this mine 👍👍 great little journey we're on
You need to weld those nuts on the back of the flange of your tube mill. So you don't have to use two tools to remove the bolts.
Or just thread the thing. then you have no need for nuts.
I really learned quit a bit watching this . I plan to put it to use. Thanks
1) Correct me if I'm wrong, but that 56 g/t is not a realistic number, as that sample consisted of hand-picked samples of gold-bearing rock. To set up an operation in that area, one might have to dig 1/2 ton of dirt just to get that much gold-bearing host rock, right?
2) Rather than sort through that table full of stones by hand, looking for gold, wouldn't it be a lot easier to use a metal detector? Just run it over the spread-out pile and pick up the hot rocks.
3) Since you're gonna pan that crushed powder out of the tube mill anyway, to get the stuff out, use a hose and wash it into a bucket. Maybe use a brush too, to make sure to get everything out of the mill.
cool to see the follow up on this series of videos Jason thanks for posting :)
Jason...It is CRAZY scary how much we look alike...Like seriously! Could be brothers ,almost twins!
Wow...that was super informative! Thanks for sharing!
Thanks watched both videos... definitely learned something and enjoyed watching... thanks 👍🏻
Looking forward to seeing you work that spot some more!
Oh Man I learn a lot from your video. I going to be a long time fan.
Thanks Jason for the show,great work.
Another great video on a fascinating process.Darn near mesmerizing. Thanks
How to find gold Part 1 was great and I was glad to see you didn't tip yourself over and go bouncing down the cliff !! I hope you wore your safety glasses while you ran the ore through the jaw crusher. I've got pits in my glasses where chunks have jumped out and hit the lenses. Beautiful specimen in the slab !! Be sure to include smaller diameter balls in the media, down to at least .25 dia. of your larger balls - usually in a full time ball style mill/crusher the media breaks down over time and it's an eyeball magic type of estimate on the media size needed. If you are getting larger chunks, then a smaller media mixed in is indicated.
Hey Jason, you have some nice wood slabs behind you there buddy.
Check out my other channel here for all my wood/logging projects: ruclips.net/channel/UCTdPTXTKNC0BzFK9n1SmbbQ
Hey Jason, great presentation of what one goes through to find those AU 'values'. And yet the 'peanut gallery' offers their suggestions (tho most have probably never milled any ore at all). I'd like to know what's the smallest viable 'vibrating mill' that could be constructed for a very small operation? So.. I'm off to your site with my query. Thanks for a great video!
Looks like some valuable samples from your prospecting location. Hopefully more comes from it. Thanks!
Jason you are the man! I really enjoy your videos.
I saw more gold right there in a piece right next to the rock that had gold in it! I wouldn't have given up so easy.. those small rocks needed another go thru of a hammer mill and ran thru your water shaker table to see what you found! 😉
haha, looking through piles of rock is something ive been doing for years now. (recently with a bit of sapphire ore out of Montana, Yogo dyke, and some diamondiferous lamproite form Arkansas. i found over 150 sapphires in the boxes of ore i bought, one was found in my 1/4 inch screen while wet sifting haha. i kept all the silt that the material broke up and or polished off the material while using my rock tumbler to break it all up. pretty epic volume of sapphires form 5 boxes of ore for $99 each haha. i also have over 150 yards worth of Slate that i am sorting by size, by hand, and or via a 3/4 expanded metal mesh i put o a frame that fit over my tractor bucket i coudl just shovel right in to soft out the small sizes and the dirt form my pile. still got a huge volume to go through haha, but it works great. its a heck of a process, but i find some nice samples in my pile for my sample collection, but the stone is being used to build slate terraces using steel and concrete for structure. got many more similar projects to go for my property haha. but i think by there end, i will have handled every single stone of the pile. how ever many Millions there are, from 200 pound slabs, to half inch grains or less lol...
That was very interesting! Great video, very informative and just what I am looking into right now! Thanks for the awesome content!
Congratulations! Every little bit helps! Good luck. 👍
I’m a concrete tester you’re giving me flashbacks of what I do every day
Wow that’s a really cool to do find gold I’ve never thought of that.👍👍👍
Mate that cannon ball mill is a winner, you should mass produce small vrsions and small refining tables for computer scrap.....Be interesting to chuck 20 motherboards with RAMS in and see what comes out on the table.
Love this show ! Did this stuff in Baker Ca.
Good times right there! Thanks for your efforts!
Hi Jason ,thank you for the informative vedeos I personally really learn alot .
Some beautiful Wood slabs 😊
Would spreading it out on a sheet of plywood on the ground and running a Minelab gold detector over it work? Just a thought.
Jason any chance on the next video can you show us how you wipe down / clean the table after the run??
I always enjoy your work. Thank you for sharing
Best video yet.
Salut mon ami très bonne vidéo du début jusqu’à la fin bravo bonne continuation
Great Video, Nice Slabs of Wood,
Check out my other channel here for all my wood/logging projects: ruclips.net/channel/UCTdPTXTKNC0BzFK9n1SmbbQ
For the compacted powder in the ball mill, maybe add some water to move the fines about more and allow the balls to crush the rocks?
try adding 1/3 size steel balls to the vibrating crusher first, then the bigger size on top. might eliminate the bigger rocks?
I like the slabbed tree stickered in the background.
Hi Dan. Check out my other channel here for all my wood/logging projects: ruclips.net/channel/UCTdPTXTKNC0BzFK9n1SmbbQ
That’s a stellar assay value. Nice man.
I love to see others use their hands as note pads as well!!
Luv your presentations 💜
Enjoyed watching your videos, Thank you.
Maybe set the whole tube mill up on a bit of a see saw to run the ore back and forth as you like.
Just put one of those rods under the base.
Might find that you getmore crushing done if you throw some odd shapes in with the steel balls too.
Cubes, pyramids, cylinders, M&M shapes, angle iron sections cut at odd angles to make points, hammer heads,, or maybe different sized balls.
I think the gravelly stuff won't find hide hols then.
I think your gravels are riding in the voids that always form amongst spheres.
Nice to watch the process
Thank you for sharing, that was really interesting.
Nice worth the effort to carry it down. What is up with the silver sample from the ghost town? Two thumbs
greetings, i am your fan.
the ball mill works well when is rotaty, not when shake.
you can build a small device where the drum turns.
Great video Jason!
Loving these videos! Thank you for these!
At one point when you're showing a piece of gold in your palm I see '714' then something else written on your palm.
Strange observation probably. Just curious.
Awesome video. Thank you very much. Very informative...
Looks like pyrite on camera. Congrats and keep up the good work!
Great video. I always learn something.
Hey Jason, I am catching up on some of your videos. Question where can you find the steel balls. I have seen on another video where they used a concrete mixer with the steel balls in it to crush up ore and they recovered some fine gold. Tia. Also love the videos and it is taking me a while to catch up on them.
So much effort, time and energy required to process so much material and then arrive at such a small amount of Gold. If it pays out in profit at the end, I guess it's worth it.