Bartlet was personally aggrieved because he know one of the soldiers killed. But the look on Leo's face is amazing. He's genuinely stunned that Bartlet would talk like that.
@@russellh8702 It's kind of like tit for tat. You slap me, I slap you back. This is opposed to an unproportional response in which you slap me, and I shoot you with a gun. The idea is measure for measure and it's a principle used in military decision making. But here, it's the name of this episode/story arc
They made a good point in this episode that a measured response is the cost of doing business and basically docking someone’s allowance. Later on the British ambassador says something like “it’s the price you pay for being free, rich, and alive all at the same time.”
That’s much later, in reference the the troop movement on the India-Pakistan border. Also, at that time Lord John Marbury is not the British Ambassador. He becomes the Ambassador in a later season.
Remember that this was actually a dark moment for Bartlet? He was doing the wrong thing, he had to be talked down from disproportionate retribution by Leo.
@Gracie0935 If I recall correctly, I think that scene you mentioned was in the following episode "A Proportional Response" regardless of that being right or wrong, I do like that part.
Actually I see some paralells between Bartlet's/Walken's actions against Qumar and what Obama is doing to fight Al Qaeda in Pakistan (Sharif/Bin-Laden).
Should be "God's Own Thunder", as in the thunder owned by God. "Gods Own Thunder" implies that there are multiple gods that own thunder. Remember, "An apostrophe is the difference between a business that knows its shit and a business that knows it's shit."
Other mnemonic devices: "I helped my uncle, Jack, off a horse" vs "I helped my uncle jack off a horse." And a probably apocryphal dedication at the front of a book proves why serial/Oxford commas are important: "To my parents, Ayn Rand and God".
Sorry I'm late to the party, but there is a major flaw in your (lack of) reasoning. You state that there is only one "god" when the fact is, there have been over 3,500 gods created by man in all of recorded human history. There is no demonstrable proof other than someone's say so, that there is any one single god, or that any of the other 3,500+ exist either. Someone's say so is neither proof nor is it even remotely close to evidence. So, the statement "gods own thunder" is correct. Except for the capitalization. "god" is a descriptor, not a title or a name, and is therefore not a proper noun. We can overlook the "being the first word in a sentence" since that is the only correct capitalization of the word.
Lancer525 Except by your argument it should be “gods’ own thunder” as “gods own thunder” shows no possessive regardless of how many gods to which one refers.
Just because I love this kind of conversation ... Context is everything. Since Bartlett is a practicing Catholic, God's would be the correct use of the apostrophe in the sentence. And I seriously enjoyed the use of the apostrophe and comma in the above example.
Just wish every once in a while someone (who is sane, that lets out Donald Duck) would get on the phone and say I am about to solve your problems with us permanently. I have seen several local battlegroup commander advise people of this Cuba, Iraq, and Iran IRL (USN vet).
Sanity is part of what keeps people from doing exactly that... sanity and restraint. Because if the US starts throwing that kind of force around, someone might get in their idea to do something . . . . . . stupid.
OK but don't you guys state daily how bad and wrong 9/11 was? Then how could you justify becoming the perpetrator of such an event yourself? Last I checked you're not a terrorist. Then again, this is RUclips so anything is possible.
Bartlet was personally aggrieved because he know one of the soldiers killed.
But the look on Leo's face is amazing. He's genuinely stunned that Bartlet would talk like that.
A proprtional response - one of my favourite episodes - so well done
gnhansen29 someday someone’s going to have to explain to me the definition of a “proportional response”.
@@russellh8702 It's kind of like tit for tat. You slap me, I slap you back. This is opposed to an unproportional response in which you slap me, and I shoot you with a gun.
The idea is measure for measure and it's a principle used in military decision making.
But here, it's the name of this episode/story arc
They made a good point in this episode that a measured response is the cost of doing business and basically docking someone’s allowance.
Later on the British ambassador says something like “it’s the price you pay for being free, rich, and alive all at the same time.”
That’s much later, in reference the the troop movement on the India-Pakistan border.
Also, at that time Lord John Marbury is not the British Ambassador. He becomes the Ambassador in a later season.
Remember that this was actually a dark moment for Bartlet? He was doing the wrong thing, he had to be talked down from disproportionate retribution by Leo.
Bring this show back.
@Gracie0935
Agreed, this show had so many amazing moments throughout its seven years run and as stated, all due to great writing and acting.
Its ironic that this sort of reaction is exactly what you get from fear.
@Gracie0935
If I recall correctly, I think that scene you mentioned was in the following episode "A Proportional Response"
regardless of that being right or wrong, I do like that part.
Channeling a little bit of President Stillson there, don’t you think?
Actually I see some paralells between Bartlet's/Walken's actions against Qumar and what Obama is doing to fight Al Qaeda in Pakistan (Sharif/Bin-Laden).
Should be "God's Own Thunder", as in the thunder owned by God. "Gods Own Thunder" implies that there are multiple gods that own thunder.
Remember, "An apostrophe is the difference between a business that knows its shit and a business that knows it's shit."
I will NEVER EVER LQQK at another apostrophe again without enjoying your "example"...TY...much needed sense in a mucked up World! Cheers
Other mnemonic devices:
"I helped my uncle, Jack, off a horse" vs "I helped my uncle jack off a horse."
And a probably apocryphal dedication at the front of a book proves why serial/Oxford commas are important:
"To my parents, Ayn Rand and God".
Sorry I'm late to the party, but there is a major flaw in your (lack of) reasoning.
You state that there is only one "god" when the fact is, there have been over 3,500 gods created by man in all of recorded human history. There is no demonstrable proof other than someone's say so, that there is any one single god, or that any of the other 3,500+ exist either. Someone's say so is neither proof nor is it even remotely close to evidence.
So, the statement "gods own thunder" is correct. Except for the capitalization. "god" is a descriptor, not a title or a name, and is therefore not a proper noun. We can overlook the "being the first word in a sentence" since that is the only correct capitalization of the word.
Lancer525 Except by your argument it should be “gods’ own thunder” as “gods own thunder” shows no possessive regardless of how many gods to which one refers.
Just because I love this kind of conversation ...
Context is everything. Since Bartlett is a practicing Catholic, God's would be the correct use of the apostrophe in the sentence.
And I seriously enjoyed the use of the apostrophe and comma in the above example.
I want bartlet as president
*shudders*
What episode is this from ?
It's the end of "Post Hoc, Ergo Propter Hoc", 2nd episode in the series
I always wished he ended the quote with "But I am not afraid." seems like it's missing a "but" or "however". Don't know why.
Just wish every once in a while someone (who is sane, that lets out Donald Duck) would get on the phone and say I am about to solve your problems with us permanently. I have seen several local battlegroup commander advise people of this Cuba, Iraq, and Iran IRL (USN vet).
Sanity is part of what keeps people from doing exactly that... sanity and restraint. Because if the US starts throwing that kind of force around, someone might get in their idea to do something . . .
. . . stupid.
He reminds me of President Obama in this clip.
Obama couldn’t hold Bartlett’s jock strap
Atta Boy, sic 'em blundering idiots. Rolling Thunder 10!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Why can't we have someone like this NOW? We'd be celebrating 9/12 not wetting our tightiewhities over 9/11.
OK but don't you guys state daily how bad and wrong 9/11 was? Then how could you justify becoming the perpetrator of such an event yourself? Last I checked you're not a terrorist. Then again, this is RUclips so anything is possible.