Comparing A 2021 Takeuchi TL12R2 To A 2011 TL250
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- Опубликовано: 8 фев 2021
- Comparing the 2021 Takeuchi TL12R2 to the 2011 TL250 track loader. I do a quick side by side comparison of the two machines on some of the changes and improvements that Takeuchi has made in 10 years. I'm sure there are some things I haven't touched on but these are some of the things I noticed. The TL12R2 is insane! It's a powerhouse and its very quick. I'm really enjoying this machine and it's definitely made me realize how I need to update my loader. I'm hoping to get a TL12V2 at some point to see if I would like that better. Thanks for watching! #EliteEarthworks #Takeuchi #loadercomparison
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That was an outstanding comparison and gave us a lot of practical information. As you say, this is exactly where these RUclips channels excel - sharing information and hands-on experience. I think somebody is getting buying fever!!!
Thank you! Yes it was cool talking to John and it really neat like one big community. Appreciate the comment
Just traded a '19 T870 bobcat to the '21 TL12R2 TAK. Love it,- swing up door, hydraulic ONLY controls, bigger cab, pushes harder @ lower RPM's. Happy man....get one, they don't disappoint.
That’s awesome! They are fantastic machines I always tell people you just have to run one once! Appreciate the comment
Great reviews on the two machines I'm really impressed with the 250 and how nicely they hold up. Keep up the great videos thanks
Thank you! Yeah they are great machines I still love my old 250. Appreciate the comment
Thanks for the back-to-back comparison, Brandon! There's so much info here, I think I'm gonna watch it again to try to digest it all...
Thank you! I tried to pack everything in there I could think of 😁. Appreciate you watching
Thanks for that video. I enjoy hearing info on machines from the people who operate them rather than someone who sells them. Especially stuff like this and the one where you had to replace the battery, that kind of info is something I wouldn't have thought of in looking at equipment. (Like I found that replacing a fan belt on my dozer actually required half a day's work and disassembly of most of the front of the machine. )
Thank you! I’m glad it was helpful, I agree too, better to hear from someone that runs it vs a salesman. Appreciate you watching
great info. video very informative i don't know much about this stuff and you taught me a lot of new stuff thanks
Thank you! I tried to go over everything I saw with the two machines. Appreciate the comment
Excellent presentation keep em coming
Thank you!
Great comparison vid. I got a chance to run a TL8 about a year ago when I was helping my buddy build a boulder wall. That thing was super fast, twitchy, and responsive. It took me awhile to get used to after running my Deere for so long. You could tell the pilot controls are way different that electric over hydraulic controls.
Thanks buddy! Yeah the pilot controls are very touchy I really like them very responsive. Appreciate you watching man
There's some really clever improvements. The 12 looks pretty good too. It's worth noting that even with a 10 year old machine, your skill proves a 10 year old takeuchi can still get the job done and done well. Thanks for the overviews! It was really interesting!
Thanks buddy! That is true that machine has been great! Definitely got my money out of it. Appreciate you watching man
Great comparison video! The fact that they kept the pilot controls is awesome! I love pilot controls so much faster and accurate IMO. We have 2 Takeuchi TL 230’s and they are amazing machines for finish grade. Guessing the new generation by your comparison won’t be far off apart from the slightly bigger frame overall.
Thank you! Yes you can’t beat the pilot controls! So quick and responsive. Those 230 are awesome machines. Thanks for watching
Brandon,
You're becoming a Takeuchi historian! Well done comparison, great explanation of features and benefits. I can see a new loader in your future....Work safe
Doug@ the "ranch"
Lol thank you! I do really like these machines. Appreciate you watching Doug
Thank you the video really enjoyed the comparison
Thanks! I appreciate your comment
Great video! As someone who’s interested in getting one of these or at least renting one I felt you gave some good information.
Good to hear. I think you would be happy with it it’s a power house. Appreciate you watching
great job buddy and great video as always 😎👊🏻👍🏻
Thanks man!
@@eliteearthworksllc no problem buddy 😀 love the music at the end sounds like the lets dig uses sometimes in his videos with the drone lol 🤣😂😅
Lol I think it’s the same song
Glad to see that kept the roll up door and true pilot controls.
Yes me too! I bet they will always keep those it’s part of what makes them stand out from the rest. Appreciate you watching
Thanks for this great video. So it is not a question if but when you get such a new machine. Looking forward to see the vertical series compared to the R design.
Thank you! Yes I’m really hoping to get a V and R to compare those two. Appreciate the comment
awesome job my friend!!!
Thank you!
Your truck and trailer looking good.👍
Thank you!
Nice job on the comparison buddy, but I’m still sold on the 250, cool video
Thank you! Yeah it’s tough to beat that 250. It’s been a great machine!
I still prefer the 250. Anything pre dpf is a plus. The whole tier 4 dpf system is a no for me. Take a torch to cut into the side panel for better battery access on the 250 and she is good for another 8,000 hours 😤😎
Yeah you can’t beat those 250 just great machines! Appreciate the comment
Nice review! Tak makes some really nice machines and they can push like nobody's business. They are really having some issues with their aftertreatment systems in this new generation. It's a damn shame because I'm a huge fan of their skids and CTL's.
Thank you! They are beast when it comes to pushing. Yeah that emissions just doesn’t help anything. Appreciate you watching
Those are some nice machines. They have came a long way from the 1840. Thanks for doing a comparison of the machines. I really enjoyed it. I'm going to stick with my 1840 though.
Yes they have. The 1840 is a fantastic machine probably Cases best skid steer in my opinion. Appreciate you watching
We have 2 TL12R2 machines now and they are great. Bought one last year and put 1,500 hrs on it the first year so we decided to buy a second one last month. Love the new improvements on the cab and love the smoother ride on the tracks without the metal plates for the rollers to run on.
Side note, the rear doors are way too thin. Definitely don’t do well when guys back into thing. Our older TL130 and TL230 can back into a concrete wall and barely leave a scratch. Do that with a new one and you’ll be buying a new door and radiator.
Yeah they are great machines! That’s what I want to get is a 12R2. Oh that’s good to know on the doors must be lighter steel
Definitely need to upgrade - just for ease of access to the battery compartment for heavens sake 😄
No kidding! That’s definitely worth it
Got to run the new 12 at the equip-expo today and it was really something else. We have an ‘08 TL150 and love it. Has 1400 hours but wanting to upgrade for hydraulic flow. Might keep it and just purchase new one but wow hard going back in the old 150 after running the 12
Yeah those 12’s are animals! I would definitely keep the 150 that’s extremely low hours on it. It will run forever
Great video, takeuchi has really good reach at full height for a radial machine
Thank you! I agree it’s around 10.5’ which will easily load a tandem
Trade the 250 in and get the 12 R 2. Great video and explaining the difference between both of them 👍
Thanks man! I’m planning to keep the 250 and add the 12 next year. I just can’t bring myself to get rid of it 😁 Appreciate the comment
Great Review.
Thank you!
The reason I see for the lower lift is the cylinder is shorter, as it's been moved foreword due to engine bay being bigger. Still a nice machine Brandon.
That makes sense I bet that’s the case. Appreciate the comment
Nice comparison Brandon. I wouldn't be to concerned about Kubota. I have four of them and had minimal problems. Four cylinder Japines engines seem to be pretty good whoever the manufacturer is.
Thank you! Yes I’ve had great luck with the kubota engines. Appreciate you watching
Thanks for the video. I didn't realize the 12 is so much larger. I'm still waiting for a TL10r2 to be made.
Thank you! Yeah the 12 is big. I don’t know if they plan on making a 10R2. They only make the 8’ s in radial and the 10’s in vertical now. I would go with the 8r2 if the 12 is too big than what you need. The 10 is a bit under powered. It has the engine of the 8 in the frame of the 12. The 8r2 is an animal
@@eliteearthworksllc I've got a gehl/tl140 that I bought new. And I've been itching to get a new machine.
Mine is about the biggest I can pull with a bumper pull trailer. But I hear you, the tl10v2 doesn't make sense to me. They should have offered the wider tracks and larger engine.
Yeah they were trying to avoid using def but it’s not going over well. They are in the process of reworking it but it won’t be out for about 2 years
@@eliteearthworksllc you've heard they are going to change the tl10v2? Put a bigger engine in? Wider tracks?
Yes it’s getting a make over
You definitely went over most everything. I definitely prefer the vertical lift especially if you're loading trucks because it gets the bucket further and closer to the center of the bed and also lifts higher. The extra cost of the high flow made me just stick with the standard flow because you can get most attachments in a standard flow nowadays, mulchers and asphalt grinders are about the only thing you can't get in a standard flow and I don't do enough of it to justify the cost, if I do I just rent a machine for the specific job. I wished you could get them in a glider like they used to do with big trucks because the emissions are nothing but trouble and costly not to mention fuel efficiency is almost half of the pre emissions engines. Caterpillar used Perkins for year's and switched to Kubota engines and I didn't like the Kubota at all compared to the Perkins it used twice the fuel and I had constant problems with the fuel system and particulate filter plugging up because you had to run it wide open to keep it hot or it'd plug up, probably why it used twice as much fuel. Great video on the comparison!
Thank you! Yeah the emissions is just such a pain on everything. I’m sure there is a big cost difference in high flow I need to price them but I really like this machine. Appreciate the comment
G'day mate very cool video
Thank you!
Great comparison. I'm looking to buy my first track loader and looking at TL250's because I don't want any emissions and honestly, I can't afford the 12 anyway :)
Thank you! I love my 250! Awesome machine and great on fuel
I used to own a tl250 that thing was a beast
Yeah the 250’s are one of Takeuchi best loaders in my opinion
Have a 2300, went with the TL12 V for our second one. Well worth the money. Size of the cab, it doesn't Bob as much while traveling with a lode and it grades better. One thing is the bucket and tracks are wider than you think or you thought it was.
Nice yeah the V2 are awesome! Great machine and that’s a big jump from a 230. Appreciate you watching
Are you saying the vertical lift grades better than the radius ?... strange because they advertised the radius lift better for grading
Good Video!!
Thanks buddy! Hopefully I wasn’t way off on anything lol
My 2017 TL10 is very similar to your 250, especially the cabs, I like the new design. I hate that mine has no cup holder. My radio is way back over my right shoulder and it’s a PITA to mess with. Mine has 94hp kubota engine. My buddy’s old 150 has an Isuzu engine. Overall I’m really happy so far tho.
Stu
Nice yeah the series 2 is when they changed the cabs over. The TL10 is a great machine!
With the R2 being wider and longer, does it have a lower Center of Gravity?
Maybe a little it weighs about 1000lbs more too
Will you be going with a R2 or a V2 when you get your new 12. Hi Flow? Is that a big cost difference?
I’m going to get a high flow 12R2. The high flow is about $2k-$3k more and the V2 is also me expensive. I like the R2 better because the pump flows a few more gpm and the break force is a little better. If I was moving heavy pallets all the time I would probably get the v2 but the radial design is much stronger for grading
Is this the sales pitch video your presenting the company CEO to convince her you really need this? 😆
Maybe 😁 she hears it all the time
All. The. Time. 😂
Have you been back to that beaver dam site? It would be interesting to see it now.
No I haven’t but he said it looks good and the beavers never came back. I’ll see if I can stop by one day
Nice! Not a fan of the Kubota engine as much as I used to be. I need the wide boy version. LOL! Or I need to run instead of lift. 🤣
Thanks! Lol yeah the yanmars were great engines
I think they are the best track loader you can buy love the cab plenty room and the door folds up above you head so you can work withe the door open that brilliant to me ,all that emissions and DPF ,there’s 30 volcanos going off round the planet pushing tons and tons of gasses every day are the going to put DPFs on them LOL think about it ,thanks for the video mate ,old jimmy Aust
I agree! I’m very impressed with Takeuchi I’ve had great luck with them. Appreciate the comment
The Tl12 is a big booty Judy. They are really nice machines. I went last Friday and checked out a TL8R2. I fell in love with it in 15 mins. Hopefully in about 2 weeks I'll be in the Big Coochie club. BTW, my wife is mad at you. She said you were a bad influence on me since I watch your vids all the time. Lol. Stay safe dude.
He’s a very bad influence 😂
@@mrs.eliteearthworks he said you were the bad influence. Who's telling the truth? Hmmm?🤔
🤣🤣 sorry 😁 we just like our toys! Yes the 8R2 is very impressive for its size. Good luck man 👍🏻
It’s all her I promise 😁
What do you like better the radius lift or the vertical lift?..... I've always had a radio lift machine and I am agonizing over which way to go next
It has more breakout force and is a stronger design for cutting and grading. If you primarily load trucks or move a lot of heavy pallets the vertical lift is what you want but if you do more cutting and grading I would get the radial lift. I don’t plan on ever having a vertical lift for I do
The problem is I do all of that
@@MattyMattnj1 me personally I would go with the radial lift. I feel like it’s the best all around
8000 hrs definitely a new machine coming money well spent come mrs elite he needs it lol
Yes it’s been a great machine! I’m very happy with it
17:10 but does your older machine with the slower speed have more pushing power???
No I think this one would put push it because of the extra power it has and how they have regeared the drive motors. Thanks for watching
I am currently trying to decide on what model TL to get and this was a great comparison! Do you still love the 250 after running the 12? I see you have not upgraded as of yet….
I do! I’m eventually going to get a 12r2. Those are a beast!
@@eliteearthworksllc How many hours do you have on your 250 now? you said it was 8k in this old video
Just rolled over 9400
Aways liked the tak we would try one if we had a dealer in the province.
Yeah your probably a bit limited there lol
Hi Brandon!!😀😀
How long before Mrs. elite says yes to that one just the way it sits. I know a guy that has a fecon on a big Bobcat. He seems to be busy almost all the time. People like it when you can come in and make it look like a park when you are done.
Take care buddy!!😆😀👍👍
She likes it! Yeah I think you could stay really busy with it but definitely a lot of maintenance. Appreciate the comment
I won’t be able to hold him back much longer...😂
Is the new machine similar to the one you used during the week you were training let’s dig
It’s the radial version. His was the vertical lift
how do you jump the batteries when their dead?
Good question I know there is a negative post you can jump to from the back of the machine I’m not sure if you have to take that side panel off or not. I’ll have to find out
“Tocka-hoochie” 😂
😁
Go for the new machine🚜🚧👷
I agree! 😁
Is this a please sweetie can I trade my skidloader for the new one lol. Great review and information for you and others looking for a different one. Keep up the great videos
I’m guessing it is....
Thank you! I just want to add this one to the fleet 😁
Since you asked.... you didn’t cover the satellite radio reception, camera mounting locations, remote starting option (keyless of course), back massage seat, built in vacuum, horn tone controls, sandwich warming plate, Keurig plug, GPS self navigation feature, cruise control, radar detector.... oh Brandon.... you’re gonna have to do another video just to cover all the options that it didn’t have!
MrsE.... just trying to talk him down for ya!
Brandon... Nice job showing the ins and the outs!
🤣🤣 that’s in the deluxe model! Thanks I thought it was neat seeing the two together. Appreciate the comment
When will they come out with R2-D2 .. 😁
Right after the C3PO
🤣 no kidding
👍😂
😂😂
When Brandon perfects his Wookie roar!
Just think we're heavy equipment would be today without emissions regulations. If they kept the early 2000's standards and just fixed the little things like doors, travel motor efficiency, and maintenance access they'd be amazing.
No kidding the emissions have killed everything. Such a joke
Tak12v2 is a beast
Yes it is!
The 250 bottom. Straight up drive sprocket. Was same on yanmar and geill. I dont know whom made what for who. , but i believe it was geill that made the bottom for all 3. ??
Yes Takeuchi built gehl for a bit so they have the same design
Do I sense equipment upgrades in the future
😁 yes!
good information ,i like the 250 maybe no pay each mo.but it is old but in good shape.what about the wife say,haha.
Thank you! Yes I love my 250 great all around machine. Appreciate you watching
I was here 😎
Hey...me too 🤫😎
@@DC-1 it’s the place to be
@@mrs.eliteearthworks sure is !
@@tomwainwright7102 welcome to the cool kids hangout 😎
Hey MRS. ELITE hope you're doing well
Def? ....Can't hear you! Ohhhh you mean that EPA in a bottle... hit the delete button, only if you use it offroad right🤔 what they said about my truck it would only be right that it applies to everything else. My story, I can tell it like I wanna. 😁 Howdy Elites! 🤠
Howdy! 🤠
🤣🤣 I only use it off road 😁.
Just like everything, we all spread in time... 🤣 There's always a plus and minus, but what works for you, at the best price will do, till you want bigger and better again. 😏😅👍👍
That is true! Maybe next year I’ll get one
If you get one and are like me, you will have to change your company logo to match red arm gray chassis color scheme!!
🤣🤣 that’s true they can’t keep them the same
A lot of skid steers run Kubota motors.
I thought Takeuchi was Yanmar🤷♂️
All my Cat equipment have Kubota motors too!!
Is your mini a yanmar motor??
Yes they do. The excavators still run yanmar I’m not sure why they switched to kubota in the loaders. I think yanmars are great engines. The 2150 I’m renting has a duetz engine in it 🤷🏼♂️. Appreciate you watching
Well I can tel by the tone of your voice that it is settled. Just going to have to figure out a way to tell the princess that you need a company tax rite-off!! If I were doing it, I would probably keep the 250 though. After all, the queen is going to need a machine to run! Yeah I know, she will get the new one, and paint it pink or something...
Lol yes that’s the plan keep the 250 and add the 12. You know she will be running one lol. Appreciate the comment
Or leopard print...
@@mrs.eliteearthworks Here kitty kitty kitty!!!
@@mrs.eliteearthworks pink with leopard print interior maybe?😁
@@jefferyclark3501 that’s a possibility too! 😁
Nice looking machine. The main question is how does your wife like it. Take care and have a blessed week.
It’s way quieter and runs way smoother than the 250 😁
@@mrs.eliteearthworks You can get you one and let Brandon run his old one
She likes it! I’m not sure enough to buy but she said it was nice
Say what you want about all of those bells and whistles, they look pretty and make all kinds of cool dings gongs and chirps. After having a DEF vehicle, I'll never have another one. I'll keep running my old shit until they quit making parts for them. The man that designed electronic exhaust wasn't doing so to help protect the environment, he was helping dealership service departments. They can have my share of Government Juice. I think I might consider one that just does the regen BS, but never a DEF ever again. I don't need the aggravation. .
I agree I'll keep all my old stuff any day.
I agree with that. I’m planning on buying a 12 next year but I’m keeping my 250 so at least I’ll have a spare if I have emissions problems lol. Appreciate the comment man!
Beeroquois Nation took the words out of my mouth, well put !
Would like to delete the crap... It would stay on my property. The dictator so called " Gov. " interferes with way to much. When will the people finally say no more. What does it take to resist there stupidity or unfriendly opinions. Just thinking out loud........... deleting the mechanics is doable , but the software issues ,without a proper company providing, is more than frustrating................
Time to get a new one buddy. Hope u do.
But u got to keep the old one.
Yes I’m keeping the old one but planning to add a 12 next year
@@eliteearthworksllc that sounds great.
Yeah buddy......7th Like 👍😂😂
Well, hello there!
@@mrs.eliteearthworks Hello Hello! 😁
Nice! 👍🏻
Hi Mrs Elite
Hi! 🙋♀️
I think 2010. Because my 240. Which is a 140 size is a 10 . I like the new tracks that run on rubber . Not the plates. I watch this twice. I want a new one 👍
Ok cool I couldn’t remember. Yes the tracks are great so quiet and smooth. Thanks for the comment man
@@eliteearthworksllc thanks for doing this video 👍👍
You bet man 👍🏻
I want, I want, I want - like a petulant kid! Couple months back you were set to sign up for a DOZER! Just messing with you. Listen, you're a big boy and know what you NEED to make $$$ so just prioritize a list but always keep it to NEED vs WANT. Don't think we can say cuz we watch you do a lot of work with what you have but there's always room for improvement. So if the FECON is a no go for your machine and you get enough of that work, it needs to be considered. You can also put the feelers out there for anyone who might be looking for a machine like yours. Then you get to play, "Let's Make a Deal". BUT all that said, best is your Health & Great Family & Hugs to them! Thanks! Sonny (CT)
Yes I want this machine too! It’s sweet hopefully next year I’ll pull the trigger on one. I appreciate you watching and thanks for the comment
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Thanks
Baby's got back
Oh my god Becky! 😂
@@mrs.eliteearthworks YUP!
🤣🤣 yes she does
looks like Mrs Elite going to let go of her big money and get you one.
One of these days...
Lol yes!
You're adding an extra "H" in that name TAKEUCHI
Oh whoops thank you!
Damn, I’m guilty of that too.... TAHKEUCHI
@@eliteearthworksllc Uh...after reading my comment again I want to emphasize that I didn't mean to come across as a smartass. I enjoy your channel.
Ta-coochie
Let me know if you want to sell your older Tak
I plan on keeping the 250. I was just demoing the TL12
Are you trying to sell the new one to us or the wife 🤔😄👍
Both 😂
Maybe both 🤣
Had a terex pt 110 forestry ran fecon head just bought a new takeuchi tl12r2 the old terex would run circles around the new takeuchi
That’s cool I’ve never ran a terex
Hydraulic flow on terex 110 45 gallon takeuchi 40 the new asv 120f is basically the same machine looking to trend the takeuchi tl12r2 for asv 120 there 120 hp and 45 gallon flow
Nice
Yeah so nothing catches fire.....Chris 😁
🤣 no kidding
Burn! 😂
Makalo
You going to trade?
No I just plan on adding the 12 next year. I can’t get rid of the 250 lol
Yeah your machine is way smaller lol I'm afraid you gonna go bigger here soon
Lol it will be next year
Isuzu eginges were the best.. they put in the tl140
I believe your and yes they are
I'd rather have the yanmar engine, I think.
Those were great engines
Buy the new one big money deal. Throw caution to the wind.
Don’t encourage him!
naw he has to save up for a big excavator.
I’ll do it! Because you said I should 😁
😁😘
Ok, so the 250 goes up a few inches higher.....well we know a few more inches makes a all the difference. The TL12 is a nice machine but she has a wider rear end with a bigger back door 😂😂😂
😂 let’s not forget that the 250 has also been a very reliable (faithful) hoe. Shouldn’t go replacing it with a flashy younger, oops I mean NEWER, model 😉
@@mrs.eliteearthworks thats right!!! 😆
I disagree,,if ya swap the old for 2,,half its age,,your further ahead
@@tricksfixx8303 I find the younger models spend your money faster while the older ones help make it 😉
@@mrs.eliteearthworks I figure it like this,,your gonna pay,,one way or the other,,
You must listen to too much Alan Jackson. There's only one 'H" in Takeuchi
Maybe so 🤣
Wow, the least wrong pronunciation of Takeuchi I've heard this week. Can no one read?
I may have read that wrong lol I’m sure im not saying it right but I think it’s close lol
Better off with the yanmar engine.
They both are kubota engines mines got 9400 hours on it right now with no major problems. The yanmars were good but they stopped putting them in the loaders when the 250 came out in 2011