Victor Conte: Jackie Joyner-Kersee tested positive
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- Опубликовано: 26 сен 2024
- Victor Conte says that Jackie Joyner-Kersee tested positive for illegal drug use in advance of the 1988 Summer Olympics, but that it was covered up by the U.S. Olympic Committee. Joyner-Kersee went on to win two gold medals at the 1988 Summer Games. Conte also shares other alleged incidents of the U.S.O.C. sweeping many other positive drug tests under the rug and even coaching its athletes to circumvent the drug testing system.
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Sometimes believing a lie is more comforting than the truth. The man knows what's going on. Some of you are in denial.
?? Bro theyre mostly all on drugs. Shit 7/10 regular americans are on drugs just to compete in their career field, now imagine athletes where real money and glory is on the line. Its not denial, yall are just delusional to not know this years and years ago.
@@edgaralvarez1401 that's not the problem though. The problem that I and many others have is the constant effort to appear as if the sport is clean and lying to us with all these suppose "investigations" who too are involved in the deception. Just tell the truth! In fact, they are ruining many of these guys lives afterwards when they die at 40 to heart failure. This man is probably the most hated person now, but at least he's coming clean. We're not stupid or delusional, just tired of the facade.
He don't know what's going on he said so... The very first sentence that man said was "I don't know" go look at this piece again the very first sentence he said he don't know
@@edgaralvarez1401 see when you say all on drugs bro you make yourself sound like a failed athlete... That's literally crazy man... You make yourself sound weak when you say shit like that
@Paul Kryder that's funny.ruclips.net/video/40BCeuyuET4/видео.html
The ones that retired at the height of their career, he's referring to FLO JO.
Flo Jo was definitely on performing enhancing drugs
Reilly Most definitely, She was forced to retire. Yet, some people still think her records are legit. 1988 Olympics was the last time both men's and women's 100m records where broken. Ben J was the scape goat that year.
Some people believe in the tooth-fairy too. Flo-Jos situation is obvious to the knowledgeable.
look at that reporters pupills! fuck they are the biggest i have ever seen. Must be smoking some really hard shit
She didn't retire in 88 though. She retired further into her career.
Jackie Joyner-Kersee, Flo Jo and Allyson Felix were among the athletes trained by the infamous Bobby "the chemist" Kersee who was suspected of doping his athletes with multiple drugs and masking agents.
His latest athlete is Sydney McLaughlin who holds the World Record in 400 meters hurdles. The WR's by Flo Jo, JJK and McLaughlin may stay standing for decades to come.
There must be a reason that McLaughlin keeps skipping all those Diamond League and World Championship events: she does not want to get caught. The US drug testers seem to be easier to bribe than those in other countries.
If something sounds too good to be true, it probably is. If you see an athlete who breaks the long standing WR's of Soviet and East German doped athletes, you know that athletes were doping as well. Only a matter of time!
I DO AGREE WITH YOU SHE WAS LOOKING GOOD AT THE BEGINNING OF THE SEASON ALL THE SUDDEN SHE DID NOT GO TO PARIS GRAND PRIX. JACKSON IS MOVING FROM 200 TO 400M SO IT WOULD BE INTERESTING SEEN HER AND SYDNEY IN PARIS 2024
@@Hever73 She also skipped just about all the Diamond League events in addition to the last World Championship in Budapest. These are NOT Mickey Mouse events.
I will not be surprised if Sydney McLaughlin shows up for Paris Olympics (400mh) . All she has to do is stop taking the stuff and get cleaned and ready to compete.
She tried to go after the WR in the 400m flat but I doubt if she can beat Marileidy PAULINO, not happening.
CORRECT
And now poor Athing Mu might fall under the same spell...
McLaughlin definitely seems dodgy to me. Flo Jo and JJK are a disgrace to the sport. Their records should've been scrapped years ago
Flo Jo went from a nobody to the fastest woman in history then retired at her peak earning potential when new drug tests were coming in. Died young because of what she did to her body. That’s who he means in 1988.
Or did her husband do it and there was a cover up ?
Facts I told
People this bro
She was nobody. She was the 200 silver medal from The Olympics in Los Angeles 1984.
@@eduardoriveiracano3424 she was still doping lol
@@rayb7429 There's no any evidence. Sorry.
I believe him, a great deal of what he's said has come to light.. hate him if you want though the man knows things!
For sure in 96 Olympic games I know that 6 U.S. gold medal athletes were guilty. I knew of a doctor who quit before the Olympics because he could not sign off on it
cjrrun which ones?
Sure you know of a Doctor. We all "know" of some doctor, lmao!
Was one of them in the 200 and 400m event 😁
Like Victor you heard something from someone 😂
Indeed! All of the middle-distance & long distance runners were using EPO.....
Flo jo , Lewis Delete the records
Poor Ben Johnson was crucified in Canada and elsewhere. If he was an American sprinter, never would have happened.
@Nimfa McDonald excellent
Marion Jones might disagree!!
@@trwentin 88 he could've gotten away with it like the lady who retired at height of her career 😂
Poor Ben Johnson my ass. He knew what he was doing. He was also a really sloppy cheater, which was probably his undoing.
@@mavusana12Ben was just dumb. Out of competition testing back then was almost non-existent. Most athletes who used gear during the Pre-‘89 era timed their cycles so there wouldn’t be any trace of juice in their systems by the time the major championships rolled around.
I got into these interviews watching all the f1 interviews. good stuff
To be fair, I'm sure 90% of track and field athletes have taken something. Hell, even 99%.
All of them do.
Speak for yourself
and 1% is lying
@Vince Holland you aint cheatn, you aint.......
but noone today even tho training and diet etc. will ever get close to the records without cheating, all the old records pre- 2000 when drug testing wasnt great are all scrutinised
Like vegas joke. How do you spot a cheater? They're winning. Peace
that's a powerful statement. I don't like to make heavy assumptions but every time i see those Flo Jo world records, something about her celebrations I see a glimpse of shame.
All them used to have to get braces because the PEDs swelled their heads and jaws.
Fraser-Pryce wore braces a few years back too.
@@EugeniaLoliAs did Elaine Herah
And that’s a fact!
Every Soviet athlete that ever medaled was doped, according to the IOC. They decided not to alter the standings because it would have just been too embarrassing.
@ST 23 Eastern Bloc
USA no cleaner
And the same applies to Americans.
Both superpowers systematically used drugs in an effort to gain supremacy. Those who wish to continue being in denial are entitled to their blissful ignorance.
@@speakthetruth5308 no you’re a liar.
The athletes do not care . They all know each other are doping and it’s standard practice . The IOC also know and they only pretend to care for the public’s sake . The IOC kick a team out of the olympics most games just to show the public they are onto any doping and the majority of the silly deluded public think from those actions the games are clean . The sacrificial lambs are sent home and shamed by the very same authorities who allowed tests to be tampered with . You will never stop doping in sport because athletes are corrupt , their given country is corrupt and the IOC is the most corrupt of all . Where there is fame and money there will always be corruption .
Don’t forget the brands IE Nike
It was an even playing field in my opinion everyone was doing it sooooo
Especially those Eastern Europeans and people from other countries
The US ego will always make excuses to cover up their constant cheating. A cheat is a cheat, regardless of another country's athlete also cheating. STOP CHEATING!!!
Ole Bill Burr said it best: "Our roided-up guy beat your roided-up guy."
Why is he willing to talk openly about certain athletes but not others? Jackie Joyner-Kersee wasn't his client, but he's talking openly about her alleged positive drug tests. He says 19 other American olympic gold medalists were also positive, so he knows each of those names. Makes me strongly suspect that Flo-Jo may have been one of them. I wish this interviewer would have asked him directly about her...
flo-jo was absolutely juiced to the gills, you would have to be a delusional moron to think otherwise. Her physical change in 88 says everything.
I don’t believe she was juiced, this guy is always trying to find something bad about athletes.
@@lavonnealexander6936 More than what Conte said about FloJo I find her drastic improvement in physique and times leading up to the 88 Olympics to be suspicious, as sadly, her premature death. But of course, we'll never know for certain.... RIP
@@stonew1927 Peope often refer to Flo Jo’s changed physique as some kind of indication that she was doping, but she was actually lean and much slimmer than competitors today. Although I believe she doped, her body shape isn’t evidence of this.
@@Nii1978 Of course, all of this is just supposition. Looking from the outside. No one truly knows. But I disagree with your assessment about her physique. Even by today's standards she became quite muscular. But the issue isn't in comparison with other bodies over other eras. The issue is the transformation she experienced physically in such a short time, practically from one year to the next. I've seen her competing in early events and she just "bloomed" in time to peak for 1988. That, together with her jaw dropping times that have proven unattainable to just about every great athlete since, makes her doping highly likely. One must go on the preponderance of the evidence. Her early retirement the following year, the very year they were to institute much more regimented testing procedures, makes her whole story suspicious in my view. It doesn't help that she would die only 10 years later of seizure disorder. Such a healthy, athletic person succumbing in that way. It's possible she would have died anyway from the seizures, or maybe the PEDs exacerbated her condition and contributed to her early demise.... You are welcome to think whatever you want. Obviously its all conjecture, but given all the circumstancial evidence I am inclined to believe she used drugs, as disappointing as that is for me and others to conclude. Also gotta remember the context she was competing in, in the height of the era of PED usage. So many athletes from around the world trying to figure out how to get that extra edge and being deceitful about it, trying to outwit authorities. Many did. Some like Ben Johnson got caught.....
And in a country where litigation and suing is the norm, and in fact expected when there has been defamation of character, JJK and her husband remain(ed) silent. Why? Because if it went to a court of law and witnesses were called to testify under oath, she'd be f*cked. It reminds me of back in 1989 when Darrell Robinson (RIP) accused Flo Jo & her camp of taking HGH. Dont forget this man trained under Bobby Kersee too. He claimed Kersee put him on a doping programme, and that the rest of Kersee's 'inner circle' were also on doping progammes. And what did Kersee & Flo Jo do? Nada. They called him mentally ill, but did not take him to court. For exactly the same reason JJK hasnt taken Conte to court.
If fans think JJK was clean, they are extremely naive.
Facts
Let's face it, JJK's surreal WR was set 30 years ago, and no woman has got anywhere near it, the next best is 259 points behind! It is in the same category as Koch's WR, as Kratochvilova's WR, or Lisovskaya's WR etc.etc. - all those WRs that were set in the 80s by doped athletes. At her peak during 86-92, she hardly competed on the circuit - in 1991 for example she did a 6.97 LJ in the heptathlon at the trials, then one other meet in July in Finland in 7.13....then low and behold comes out in Tokyo and wins LJ gold in 7.32. Same in 88 in terms of the LJ, she does the trials and one other meet, doesn't compete on the Grand Prix circuit, stays in the US then comes out and wins LJ gold in Seoul. This whole approach of virtually competing behind closed doors is not good. Flo Jo was no different too, with one or two meets on the circuit prior to Seoul and that's it. They were simply not making themselves available.The rumours as we know were that Flo Jo was basically told to retire. The IAAF and IOC could not face the other 100m gold medallist failing after Johnson, that would be a nightmare scenario. So even though she originally stated she wanted to try the 400m in 89, she had to go back on her statement and announce her retirement. Anyone who actually thinks Flo Jo and JJK were clean are extremely naïve.
So Victor Conte whom has made more money off of providing steroids for athletes all of a sudden is ready to get on TV and spill the beans on everyone else. This guy had NO PROBLEM providing athletes with drugs for over 20 years and now you all want to congratulate him? If find this very hypocritical.
Where in his, (1973stefanp), do you see him say what you countered? I wonder if you even read past the second line in his comment.
@@akw1312 change if heart. Some people want the truth to be told. Fuk the p.o.s Olympics!
Everyone was on juice in the 80’s and 90’s.
I was legit just debating someone on RUclips about this. Why are records especially women’s remaining untouchable?
And his defense is they didn’t dope. And they trained hard etc.
Idk what else to say
Wilt Chamberlain was the one who started the Women’s 80’s track team with Bob Kersee that consisted of Jackie Joyner-Kersee and FloJo. When Wilt found out about Bob giving those drugs to the athletes, he quit sponsoring them.
are u serious?
Wasn't Wilt all their dads?
Truth!
That did not involve them. It was 10 years before. He started "Wilt's Wonder Women". It was a bunch of kids. Please name your source.
i was unaware of this. interesting
The records of Jackie Joyner-Kersee and Florence Griffith Joyner (her sister-in-law) need to be removed, they are ridiculous and still stand 30-35 years later. Anyone with half a brain knows they were both juicing hard, just like the East Germans. Those records will never be broken by clean athletes.
I would tend to believe this man than not believe him. Look at the people and the countries involved. The question I have is, was Marion Jones and Ben Johnson sacrificial lambs? It sure looks that way to me.
With Marion what fucked her up was getting involved in a check fraud scheme.
Yes they were.
I guarantee the 2022 Worlds in Oregon have massive amounts of drug cover ups for US sprinters
Bob Kersee who coached Flo-Jo and JJK coached Sydney McLaughlin who set and incredible new record in 400 meter hurdles.
@@waterboys3001 look maybe she set that record legitimately but we have heard zero about testing and I feel like the testers know not to challenge the US athletes. Maybe I’m being a conspiracy theorist, but the Americans blew out all the records and sweep many events and I think they learned the testing protocols
He sure names Joyner-Kersee.
And he never mentioned flojo... But his first sentence was "I don't know directly"that's what that man said he's not telling you a fact he's telling you what he heard...
They should give Olympic medals to the best chemists and the best doctors.
Didn't name Flo Jo, but named Usain Bolt (in another clip).
I trust no records past the 60's. Some of them might be clean but my cut-off is 1970.
USA was using Dianabol, Russia using testosterone, Germany turinabol. All in the 50s, 60s. Just an FYI.
@Dan- I wonder why.
Dan Kelly thank god we all care about your “cut off.”
@@paulmryglod4802 I quote myself, "I trust no records past the 60's. Some of them might be clean but my cut-off is 1970.". Read carefully.
@@CHEETAH69 Where in my comment did I suggest that anyone should care or follow my "cut off"? Read carefully.
In other words no different to what Russia did!
Exactly
There's 2 much money on the line for the athletes not to be doping
If you ain't cheating you ain't winning
@@cjtaylor2359 Jesus. Someone's very offended. Idk about life in general but that's definitely true in regards to athletics. You ain't cheatin you ain't tryin. Popular saying for a reason. Just ask the 5/8 sprinters caught doping in the 2012 Olympic 100m, of which consisted of Olympic and World Champions, or the dozens of boxers and UFC fighters caught cheating, including arguably the greatest UFC fighter of all time in Jon Bones Jones, or Lance Armstrong and the FIFTEEN+ people who regularly finished after him that were caught doping, or the fucking 7x champion GM for the Celtics Red Auerbach that would turn up with heating in the visiting teams locker rooms to insane levels during home games to give his teams a competitive advantages, or Isiah Thomas and Steve Kerr who were casually talking about taking banned substances and laughing about it in national television.
Life isn't Naruto man, hard work isn't enough to win everything, so I don't know why you're so offended by MrJimmy3459's statistically significant and factually correct statement.
sadly is true...
Look how Carl treated Ben Johnson, that’s f#cked up
Totally agree. If Ben Johnson was American, he would still be a gold medalist (and world record holder for 20 years).
Carl Lewis was handed the Gold Medal after Ben Johnson tested positive, but the truth is that Lewis was also doping as has been every Olympic winner of the 100 meter dash ever since.
@@robertrojas3213 every olympic finalist in general. Let alone a medalist.
partridgepimp:
*Carl Lewis never took steroids, so yes, he can accuse Ben Johnson of taking steroids, why do you have a problem with that. To make you idiots sound even more stupid, it was Carl Lewis that was screaming everyday that many of the sprinters were doping and the IOC needed to something about it, that doesn't sound like a steroid user or doper to me.*
@@imo1933 there's a book written by Charlie Francis called speed trap. You may want to read it. It covers a non American perspective
I believe him.
So if it was about the money, why would FloJo not be allowed to continue making money for the promoters and the heads of the sport? It doesn't add up.
Her health is the reason why, many doctors turned away from signing off any documents for her because her test results were off the charts!!. This is why she was dropped off like a rock and those who WOULD BE SUED later if it was found out dropped her.
Because she allegedly tested positive AT the Olympics, where governing bodies from multiple countries are present. They probably had to strike a deal with IOC in order to keep her positive results private. Had she tested positive in the U.S, they probably would've covered it up and allowed her to compete like they did with Carl Lewis.
Wht drug did flo jo use to cover up the drugs she was using so the results would not be positive? I mean why was she not caught
@@endokuken1678 That's exactly what happened in the states there were collusions multiple times.
It is pretty obvious when when looks at 1984-1992 games athletes who was roiding hard. Tight bulk, too much definition, Too little fat.1996-2004 is harder although while some athletes were so obvious like Kenteris, others like Jones were harder to tell. But yeah, it is clear Carl Lewis, Kevin Young, Flo Jo, Linford Christie, Drummond, JJK (probably via her coach), etc were roided out. When Marion Jones admitted she was enhancing, that was it for me. Broke my heart and shattered my optimism.
Lol what? Marion Jones was clearly roided to the gills
You would have to be incredibly naive to believe that Jackie JK was not diping in 1988. No heptathlete has ever come within 200 points of her WR (Set in 1988!) despite advances in super shoes, training and fast tracks.
Everyone dopes in track and field. Some of you are deluded. Y'all think Flo-Jo (RIP) went from being an above average sprinter to being the GOAT on the female side as women like Merlene Ottey were out here using? That even as women like Marion Jones blatantly used and abused PEDs, no one has been able to TOUCH her records in 33+ years? Stop it. If you ain't cheatin', you ain't tryin' in that sport. Same with cycling...folks wanted to believe that Lance Armstrong was somehow clean after beating CANCER against cyclists that were only dope the entire time. LMAO...the dissonance is real.
Watch the excellent Documentary ESPN's 30/30 called "9.79" it explains everything about the 88 Games.
“ Somebody somewhere did something. And somebody covered it up. I’m just speculating here. I can’t be more specific. Except for all the shit I did. But I’m not gonna talk specifically about that.”
It makes me so so sad that Flo Jo was likely dirty. I dont want to believe that
I don't believe she was dirty either. They tested her over 30 times in 1988, and they got nada/zilch/zippo. Either she was clean, or she was protected by the entire U.S. (and World) Olympic Committees, because they suspected her of cheating but she tested clean every time, at the Olympics and World Championships. She died from a seizure, something congenital, which means she had it all her life. Too bad those who are deceased cannot defend themselves. Her 10.49 second 100m may have had problems with the wind detection mechanism, but nobody was pushing her down the track.
@@randalllaframboise360 how did she get so much better in such a short amount of time? Why did she suddenly up and retire?
It seems pretty damning on its face. If she was clean, she is a true wonder and I'd rather that was the truth because that 10.49 was almost superhuman
@@snakey973 The increase in specific weight training, something she had only dabbled in before...she was ahead of her time because of that. Her coach (new coach, she had been training with Kersee, now was coached by her husband) emphasized single leg training along with squats and other closed chain exercises, along with diet changes. I could see the drug charges if the U.S. committees were covering for her, but she was also tested at the Olympics and World Championships. As I said before, the 10.49 100m she ran *may" have been wind assisted. But she also ran 10.61 which is pretty close to the 10.5 mark. I had heard somewhere she had seizures and/or lack of coordination during the Olympics, and that may have precipitated her retirement. A lot of people forget she had been eligible for 3 Olympics, but 1980 was boycotted so no U.S. athlete competed there. Very few athletes are competitive for 16 years, and she was no exception; she tried to mount a comeback but her achilles tendon gave her problems. Since no one has the "smoking gun" with respect to her drug use, I would say give her the benefit of the doubt, but that's just my opinion. I'm among those who want the truth, good or bad, but if she was tested at the time and was clean, either she was clean or someone was just that much smarter than everyone else. I met her once, in 1987...probably the most confident woman on the face of the earth, and I mean no disrespect about that description.
@@randalllaframboise360 that's interesting, maybe it's all above board...she made the other runners in the field look like they were standing still, including the great and squeaky clean Evelyn Ashford. A LOT of doping in the 80s unfortunately
@@snakey973 We'll probably never know for sure, that's the sad part. I chose to believe she was clean, and until that day someone has unequivocal proof otherwise, I'll continue to think that way about her.
is the interviewer a robot?
yes
The American public doesn’t want to know. Sosa, McGuire, Bonds were all obviously doping but nobody cared.Baseball was and is now a joke!
To be the best in the world you need 3 things: The best possible genetics for that sport, the best possible coaching and the best possible performance enhancing drugs that can be covered up. Unless your sport is curling, you're not overcoming the disadvantage of other competitors taking performance enhancing drugs.
You obviously are not and weren’t an athlete growing up. That is very clear.
This is the ultimate in casting 'shade'. Basically avoiding a libel lawsuit by repeatedly 'I heard' and 'from a reliable sauce'. Without proof or evidence, this kind of deformation of someone's character should be illegal.
The proof is her performances, which defy human biology.
Drug testing is a hammer, the governing bodies drop the hammer when they want, to advance their own interests.
The IOC wants viewer friendly sports on TV during the Games, sports like wrestling/weightlifting don't draw viewers like womans beach volleyball does.
Guess what sports are tested and the results reported?
The ones the IOC wants out of the Games so then can get more beach volleyball.
Exactly!!!
He telling the full truth I been told people this shit ‼️‼️
If he knows he should tell, either no guts or no facts
FACTS
I heard, I was told, this person told me, not I can prove... 🤦🏾♂️...
I want to see a parallel Olympic games where no one is tested for anything.
paul mryglod it wouldn’t be too far off with what we have now
All of them are on it, crippled or not they are using PED’s.
@@danfuerthgillis4483 Even the handicapped athletes take PED's...wow! All this time, I thought those handicapped won with just hard work and determination.
@@vandrosia Sadly everyone is taking something and of course if the winning prize was 20 subway sandwich’s no one would be taking PED’s as it is the financial aspect of winning these competitions and staged events that makes all the athletes have no choice to use PED’s for a level playing field.
@@danfuerthgillis4483 What about the retards in the Special Olympics? Those guys are surely natural because their times are atrocious.
Everyone knows she was doped up c'mon they all were.
Why not allow them? Let’s see what we can do!!
And kill them and destroy their bodies? I’m sure that’s ethical
Wouldnt the richest countries just get the best drugs that cannot be traced while poor countries will become the scapegoats.
@@crimeandmore2872 I guess
Because not everyone's body responds to performance enhancing drugs in the same way. It's also super bad for long term health.
Dying in their 20s thru 30s (typically in their sleep) particularly sucks.
So to summarize here he basically said “I heard or have been told but I have no actual proof I can give to you so everything I am saying is just conjecture even after 30+ years later this still doesn’t mean shit and can’t/won’t be proven”
I believe everything Conte says we know it
really need to reset all olympics records because of this...
“I don’t know anything directly other than what I was told and of course I guess some may consider it a rumor but...”
Lol
Right, smdh.
Everyone in the comments “ I believe him, everyone’s guilty”
@@SoSickRick Look at her records, that's enough evidence to know she was a big-time doper. A multi-event athlete that also dominated long jump at the same time. LOL. Also she looked like a man when she was competing.
@@soulripper31 Great athlete is now your qualifier for doping...
We need solid evidence like test results for such claims and don't give us your baseless opinion and satanic feelings.Flo-Jo's body was exhumed and tested,the results came negative meaning she was clean and never used any drugs to enhance her performance.Let the athletic queen rest in peace.
😂😂😂Right, why would I listen to guy who went to jail for steroids and money laundering. He is such a dumbass and thinks he knows everything.
@@lavonnealexander6936 He is a big fraudster in sports history and he still has pending cases in court😁😁😁😁😂😂😂sick man
Carl Lewis test was covered up too.
They called it...INADVERTENT USAGE
Where is the proof, the evidence? Where are the test results? Where is the paper to prove this guy's claims? Just this guys word. I think I will pass. Wow, never heard of JJK abusing PEDs but why not accuse her? JJK got old and certainly wasn't putting up the numbers she had been but yet, she was abusing PEDs according to this guy. Oh brother.
You have a guy that was literally involved in this whole scandal and you don’t believe?? I understand you’d rather hear comforting lies rather than unpleasant truths but it’s a reality man.
He also made claims against Marion Jones and another athlete the sued him for millions and lost ,that's how credible he is
@@jamiegormer1010 what do you mean?
So did the beautiful Flo Jo!
No.... Never failed a drug test in her life or death... Ask me any question.. I studied it for three years.. flojo was absolutely clean..
@gerry findon Gary Gary Gary.. first off I guarantee you're not in America you have xenophobia you already have a biased odd imagination against flojo... You already came to this with a bias odd imagination... You asked why didn't she win the previous year. You know how stupid that is man.. her time hadn't come yet.. she got close she got the silver medal in the 19 87 world championships close... She was in a abusive relationship she left that got married switch coaches in the rest of history....that's just dumb for you to say that ...you sound like a failed athlete ....you look stupid too.. where was Shelly Ann 2007... She was at 11.34 her time had come yet.. 2008 she runs 10.78 and wins the Olympics.... Where was Usain bolt 2007. He was at 10.05 ..one year later 2008 he runs 9.69 slowing down batten his chest.. you sound like a failed athlete man ..you are a failed athlete ...
@gerry findon all right little Gary.. random drug test right... Flojo the greatest ever fastest female in the history of planet Earth... Retire February 1989... Random drug test came out was announced July 7th 1989 flojo was already retired man... and here's something that your stupid ass forgot or didn't know you didn't know you didn't forget you just dumb.... She came out of retirement in 1995 to break the world's record in the 400 m.. she ran three marathons that year marathons are governed by the iaaf she had to be in the random drug test pool protocol... You're an idiot you a loser you're small.... Check mate...
@@sinsin1697 🤣🤣🤣 no she wasn’t. You sound so ridiculous.
@@yankees29 that's a hell of a comeback..I
Don't know what the hell you talking about.I
Don't think you know what the hell you're talking about... I stated facts... Your response was no she didn't...
This guy speaks in a precise and ethical way. He is very credible.
people not taking him seriously are delusional, he's been right for quite a while
What’s the point of this interview? No specifics , no names and the person no longer around to speak on it.
Flo Jo was tested time after time and still nothing was found long before her death smh 🤦🏽♂️💯
Maybe she was more talented than Jackie. Her leg swing was pretty amazing, people don't run like her anymore.
Flo jo never had a positive test that went public which makes her a clean athlete just like OJ Simpson was found not guilty of a double murder which means he's innocent and Michael Jackson was never a phedopile because he was never convicted.
@@Chopper650 U can add Marion Jones to that list. She has never been tested positive either
@@Chopper650 spoken like a true asshole
@@footballcraze3301 Marion Jones test positive in 2006 us Nationals
I would be interested about what these tests were positive for.I would have to say that things like EPO,anabolic and testosterone are more relevant than say something found in an allergy or "cold" preparation.
Thats a hot take. Actual PEDs being more relevant than cold medicine? You might be on to something
A common stack would have been testosterone with an anabolic. Then HGH with insulin.
@@yankees29 I believe that female athletes preferred oxandrolone sparing them the masculinizing effects such as baldness ,voice changes and hirsutism.Back to Joyner-Kersey ,It was obvious.However I would venture that most of the women she competed against were also users but that her testosterone receptors were more receptive than most.
@@docsmithdc oh back then the whole field was on something I think. It was a revolutionary time in sports. That’s why I really don’t care if her and Flojo used.
How you gone name Jackee but no one else? If you gone run your mouth, tell it all or shut up!
Deals were made behind closed doors.
That's true. It's about TV marketing money from corporations. That's how you get rich
The pic in the beginning is not Jackie Joyner Kersee.
Flo Jo's 100m world record still stands today!! LOL. I think that tells you something and she sadly died very young?? Women today still can't get anywhere near her world record. She must of been on some strong stuff.
they caught ben johnson and russian in the same olympics
Indeed.
Shacarri Richardson is getting close and will break the record
@Anthony Evans Where's the proof. I'll wait!
@@Kush333 I love SR but she’s nowhere near close
I had been saying this all along. The US are the dirtiest country in the Olympics. FloJo ,Jakie Joyner-Kersace, Carl Kewis ,Butch Renyolds. All athletes that got away with doping getting caught and having the test barried.
Yes. this is all controlled by the higher ups. I think if you listen at 3:35 it sheds a lot of light on the Sha'carri Jackson situation. I think that they don't like her look or story and they didn't want her to become an olympian and represent America and so they released her results to ruin her shot.
@@LightninRodsAttractMagic nah bro lmao. She’s the first woman since since Jeter who had a genuine chance at gold. She definitely wasn’t going to get it this year because she’s inexperienced and has yet to produce the goods when they’re needed but she definitely could have medaled. She was also crucial for the 4x1 if we even wanted a chance at defending our title from the Jamaicans.
I also wouldn’t be surprised if Smokey been hittin the Zaza this whole time she just didn’t get it out of her system quick enough. If she truly abstained from weed, her coping mechanism wouldn’t be to smoke it.
@@LightninRodsAttractMagic Richardson is probably on the juice as well. She keeps the company of known dopers. Heck Nike basically pushing new talent on coaches who doped, who trained dopers like Gaitlin, and have been busted offering steroids to undercover reporters in 2017. Are we suppose to believe they clean? An Olympic medalist from Tokyo Kenny Bednarek is also part of that group.
I don’t doubt that the U.S has had doping issues in the past, but the dirtiest country? That accolade firmly goes to Russia and its neighbouring countries.
Ed Moses didn't need to cheat
Flo Jo
All his statements according to him were hearsays and rumors. Who provided the cover ups? IOC included?
1)Carl Lewis, 2) Jackie Joyner, 3) Flo Jo, Grill Devers?
Every time someone of my color is on the top even in death. You have someone want to discredit them getting five minutes of fame. He is a wow.
What’s up with Graham’s pupils? He feeling good?
So we never get a name, who is afraid of what
I expect their was some nationalism involved, too. Beating the Soviets was such a big thing back then. Everyone knew the Esstern bloc athletes had a sophisticated doping program, so it became an arms race.
Nike sponsors all the best steroid takers 😁
It wouldn’t surprise me!
"I've heard" means little to nothing lol
Its almost certainly true,not just of her,but of every single athelete in that era.Soviets were absolutely prolific in that era,well known for steroids,and americans were always trailing or ahead of them,so i doubt americans were clean,or any country that could do it,honestly.
@@RandoBurner I have no doubt, you couldn't succeed without using something then.
@@JustMeELC That would be my guess as well,looking at the landscape rationally to be honest.
Great interviewer.
If she did do drugs during the 1996 Atlanta games, they should have stripped her bronze medal in the women's long jump and award it to Greece's Niki Xanthou.
They tried but then Xanthou tested positive for PEDs also.
Thanou was doping as well.
Personally, they should let them dope. Just make sure they're supervised by trained medical personnel, that they understand the health risks, and have signed waivers and consent forms that they accept the consequences of their choices. Otherwise they're just fighting a losing battle here.
100% facts
True. Legalize and regulate drugs!!!
Just name the names, otherwise keep that shit on the playground. 💁♂️
Whatever. Let them juice. Its more fun to watch. Anyway, if everyone juices, its a level playing field.
At this point, it makes sense.
Totally agree!
I agree 100%
I don't like to see or hear of athletes juicing, considering the long term effects of steroids. One wonders why Flo Jo passed away at only 38. Lyle Alzado juiced and got a brain tumor and died at 43. You're right about if everyone juices, then it's a playing field.
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Add Germany & Soviet Union to the list.
😂 Without Dope there is no Hope this goes for every damn sport you Dope. 😉
Lol. Good one!
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Hmmm .. low life
If it’s the countries that have the money can pay for the coverups, how do you also claim that the smaller countries, such as Jamaica that doesn’t have the money cover up these crimes! There is no factual basis for your allegations
Jamaica isn’t even testing. The US is testing but it’s political.
men on juice are next level but for women it takes them way beyond that
Epoxy anabolic and steroids east German style
I was told by an unknown person
Yea I can't possibly imagine a circumstance where someone may want their name to remain anonymous
You can’t tell me with all the technology facilities nutrition, level of coaching etc that there isn’t a reason why athletes in this current era haven’t even been able to get close to flo jo’s record. Americans probably take pride in the fact that their juiced up runner beat the rest of the juiced up runners” but it’s simple impossible to argue that there wasn’t some sort of cover up to make sure she «never tested positive” cause you can’t tell me in the last two decades there’s been world records and Olympic records broken left and right in the sprinting events yet flo jo’s records remain untouched while no women has ever been able to touch them since.
Are you Jamaican?
She's A MAN BABY!!!!!
USADA and the Nevada State Athletic committee are just the opposite! Lol
I don't wanna hear no should've, could've, would've shit straight facts.....when was she given a test and what she failed for?
May the best cheating athlete win.
Who is he?
Most athletes are using. They start early in HS. These kids are getting bigger, faster and stronger than ever. It's simply crazy to think their all natural. DL/OL in the NFL running 4.6/4.5 or faster. Everyone in Track and field recording sub 10 in the 100m..We should just make it legal, and ensure it's done safely. Chances are the top in athlete in any sport is taking PEDS.
You were never an athlete if you think these kids are juicing in high school. High school sports are as clean as it gets
400m hurdler from 1992. Kevin Young?
Yeah he definitely just snitched on Flo-Jo. All things come out in the end
Did you hear this man say the word flojo..
This man just said he was ignorant to the fact he said this is what he heard.. he did not say this is a fact. And he did not use the word flojo.. or anything to discredit her
It’s always easier to implement a dead person, I hear they don’t put up much of a fight.
except actual evidence and information...not "once upon a time I heard somebody tell somebody that told me what I'm about to tell you about a name that I won't name, but I'll let you assume who I'm talking about"
3 letters 3 numbers 33 freemason code
I bet all the people jumping up and down screaming “where’s the evidence?” For JJK and Flo Jo are the same people that were doing the same thing about Lance Armstrong back in the day.
Quit the identity politics and open your fucking eyes
Every athlete should just take steroids, so everyone will be on a level playing field
Reilly then we wouldn't have all this blame game 😒
THEY already dope 100% level. otherwise no selection for Team USA.
Sounds good in theory but in practise it would cause problems. Athletes are some of the most intense, unbalanced people you could ever meet. If drugs become permitted, then the game becomes “who can take the most without becoming ill” or “who is willing to risk their health on an untested research product”? Althetes will take this chance, they are obsessed. Only a matter of time before we have a dead young person who’s had a bad transfusion or early onset cancers etc. The Federations can’t allow that
That’s what was going on in the 80’s and 90’s.