There was a lot of confusion regarding the scaling of Malenia, this is her original scaling. HOWEVER, there is a technical detail that should've been mentioned in the video; which is that she was given the same advantage as the spirit summon ashes if fully upgraded with the new Scadutree Blessing mechanic, which gives is around 30% extra damage negation, and triple the attack power. This was done because the DLC bosses are designed in a manner where their stats are very high in that regard, and to have the summoned enemies have their "original power", they scaled it off in such a way, and we followed it in the video. We will be taking that aspect more closely in detail in the next videos and figuring out the exact way the mechanic works; in order to balance the fights in a better manner, however for the time being, enjoy the content!
@@Arrakiz666 yeah ecect maby rodan mikala and rellana twin moon knight and a couple others since each have a canoicly power reason why malail would either lose or barly win at her Godess of rot phase
@@farhudfarhudi410 Her Rot is op. Otherwise, she would be already dead when radahn turna 2nd phase without applying rot, but even her stats wouldnt be tripled, she still can kill radahn but she dies too.
Rellana is both Malenia’s aunt and sister in law 😭. Also lore wise, Miquella sent Malenia to fight Radanh and damage his brain, so Miquella’s can revive his soul later on and Radanh wouldn’t be able to object. Miquella the kind should be known as Miquella the freaky. Our boy Mogh was a victim, not the other way around.
The whole situation with Mohg makes me sad. Radahn and Mohg are both victims of Miquella, the prodigious empyrean is fucking disturbing as hell. Wish I could’ve killed him and not Radahn (though I guess we’re mercy killing Radahn at this point). Btw, I do love Miquella’s character, but I do want to kill him for his disturbing acts. I love-hate him, lol.
@@kokocarillo9931Yep. As Miquella compels one’s affection, he most subtly strips them of free will, divests them of their humanity. In fact, Miquella echoes his parent, Radagon and Marika, in that he would rule as God and Lord, for his Lord’s mind is not necessary
Everybody here is so annoyed they buffed Malenia so she would have a chance, it's so funny, like you think you want her without the buffs but I've seen over channels do that and every base game boss just gets two-shotted cause of the dlc's unreasonable scaling it's so boring. Giving her the spirit summons boss is completely reasonable and shows us who would win based on moveset alone.
the uploader changed some values around, the sote bosses should be doing a whole lot more damage than they are. Maybe he has all the scadutree fragments which is meant to trivialise the dlc for people struggling
@@Grrimhildr yeah probably, but claiming it's her original scaling is claiming it's the original damage without any change, scadutree blessings are changing the damage, so it's not really the thing we wanted to see
I love Malenia a LOT. But even I can see she's buffed. If that is the equivalent to the scadu tree buffs, then fine. But otherwise I know she'd lose to almost everyone here cause the dlc has stats that are WAYYYY too high for basegame
@MF-ui5uk That's just unfair. She has 2 bullshit abilities and he still decided to buff her? This whole video isn't accurate then. She needs to be at her normal level for us to actually see how she fairs.
She's going to win everytime because of lifesteal, unless You find a massive damage boss that dodges a lot like maliketh. Radamiquella comes close, but he barely dodge stuff.
Yeah, i saw people complain that he was boring in another video and I somewhat agreed but seeing his full moveset made me realize how badass he was The Lore in the other hand is a different story. I guess people wanted Godwyn to be the final boss or Miquella without a consort Which.... yeah i guess... The Godwyn part doesnt make any sense since his soul was destroyed due to destined death Anyways... Bayle the dread might be my new favourite boss now
@@ByrgenworthGraduate more closure on Godwin would be great but he's as dead as it gets, his soul is perma deleted by the rune of death with his body being there. People expecting him to return and complain about the lore are being hypocritical because they want to jump through mental hoops to get what they want. I am personally underwhelmed because there wasn't much build up to this reveal (except Malenia whispering something to Radhan). Also the fact that this DLC doesn't happen after we complete the main story also locks out that option from practical perspective and we know that because after burning the erdtree some quests get locked (also Miquella calls us aspiring lord)
@@ByrgenworthGraduateYeah, most of the complaints I’ve seen weren’t really about the boss itself, but about how Miquella has a lot more lore relating to Godwyn, and not much of anything involving Radahn (at least to my knowledge), so it was disappointing to many just see him again, not to mention it feels a bit like it was done for the sake of fanservice rather than the story since Radahn is pretty popular among the community. I’m fairly certain a prime Radahn fight would’ve been much more welcome if it hadn’t been where it was.
@ByrgenworthGraduate the problem with having a standalone Miquella boss is that he was never a fighter. He's royalty and royalty alone ntm he's also just a boy (physically)
Before you get sad even further, there's a description of young Radahn helms entails Malenia's quote "The Golden Helm worn by Radahn, Proudly displaying his heroic red hair, it's a fitting attire for a lion" "When Malenia, blade of miquella, let the rotflower blossom in Aeonia, Radahn heard a murmur in his ear-- "Miquella awaits thee, O Promised Consort"
@@Angel-uc1ps Nah, Malenia has attacks that can heal her. Where is this unfair ? There was no need to make her stronger than she already is in the base game.
@@hedgehoginacanoe5838 Buffing is making someone or something stronger, but with respect to itself, not with respect to others. Under the premise that the DLC bosses are stronger just because they are under the DLC setting, it is adaptation. You couldn't put Malenia to fight under her normal stats, because the only thing that makes the others so strong is just the fact that they are from the DLC, and the DLC has a difficulty setting only to make it challenging; that is, they are not that strong on their own. That's all. Do you understand or not yet?
@@anonisnoone6125the DLC scadutree fragments in fact increase the scaling, its made in such a way because the DLC enemies in general are immensely overpowered. Go cry somewhere else.
@@ergoths I mean, we've seen plenty of bosses vs each other through out dark souls, bloodborne and elden ring, the point was to not buff any bosses, or, at least you should say you did, because then people would know At the start of video the claim was "...her original scaling...", did you miss that? You can't both claim that she is using her original scaling while giving her increased scaling in some form. So yeah ofc I'd be confused when the original scaling would obv not produce this result If you are gonna make it funny tell us that first instead of making me find out that it's wrong Nothing wrong with a video about Malenia with all the scadu enhancements beatdown the DLC to free her brother, would be a great video, would watch But this is claiming that she is using her original scaling while actually having about 3x as much damage + 30% damage negation, what part of "original" do we not understand here?
I like to think this is a reality where malenia doesn't attack us, we tell her we killed mohg and radahn and what mohg did, and she tackles the dlc to figure things out.
I mean she is technically not dead just in a state of rebirth, it would have been so cool and emotionally riveting if you could summon her for help during the final fight with Radahn and Miquella.
As far as I can tell, they've released a bunch of videos since then and have ignored all the comments asking that. So I don't think they're going to redo it properly. They really must love Malenia. This is why I'm not subscribed to this channel. Incredibly disappointing.
@@UltraStarWarsFanaticThis mechanic was made only for player, since DLC starts at the point, where his HP, ATK and DEF increase very slow. So this was simply made to keep increasing enemy's HP and ATK. For example, Malenia has 33000 HP (in summ) and Messmer has 39000 HP. The thing is people wanna see which boss mechanic is the strongest For example, Maliketh's stats are no match no match for Malenia's, yet Elden Doggo can defeat her.
@@theredknight9314 I went through old malenia vs boss footage and she did around 600 max damage per swing meanwhile she does almost triple that in this video
@@theredknight9314 You see This is actually not accurate Do you guy remember how they the modder use to summon boss? Make them become spirit ash that we can summon And guess what this dlc have for us? Spirit ash buffing
DLC Radahn was insane, I actually died more to him than Malenia, Moveset is actually crazy. I think its cool that him and Malenia were so evenly matched here, Even with the lifesteal it was a close fight, I guess its pretty accurate to the lore lol
@@Mi-Jung_Kim-tq2bl I wanna know how Idiots felt after completely ignoring the lore and jumping to idiotic conclusions because they WANT it to not make sense. Actually learn the lore to all this, Its a masterpiece level twist. Radahn didn't want anything to do with Miquella, Neither did Mohg. Miquella set up EVERYTHING, Got everyone killed so he could manipulate their souls and become a god.
11:39 "Feel the true horror of the scarlet Rot. 14:40 "You Weren't Supposed to be Stronger And Harder Than Me?" 21:35 "So You Want A Rematch huh? Fine...Congratulations for Surviving The Rot By The Way" 23:45 "...And I Took That Personally... You WILL WITNESS TRUE HORROR!! YOU SICK PED-"
Bayle jumping heavied into the rot pool, we've all been there buddy I am kinda curious how much damage it would have done to him because that thing has insane tick dps
For those crying about scaling Realize we never knew Malemia at her prime This malenia has her base stats with scadu tree blessings Aka meaning she is not at her prime She is buffed with defence and attack but at most 20% Prime Malenia is a melina that can see Has her limbs has her strength and no decaying body Malenia is nerfed to hell well we meet her She cannot see cannot use her limbs correctly She has her strength constantly declining due to rot She relies on hearing Thats why her boss arena has water on the ground A prime malenia is impossibe to beat Rot goddess malenia with a prime body neg diffs the versw
malenia is stronger with the rot, despite losing her limbs and such it is a double-edged sword, the rot is what makes her stronger and she used it against radahn for a stalemate
@@tqd2008yes but its not supposed to drain her her vigor or Strength She wont accept it So it harms her Romina accepted it and she had control a piece of the rot gods power If malenia Accepted it it woukd probably restore her and give her new Things
@@ItachiUchiha_1724she literally blooms a second time because she accepts the rot. You can’t stop the rot unless you have Miquella’s needle which resists it ( this was damaged/lost with the radahn fight), it’s not as simple as accepting the rot, it’s stated to be a plague ingame which cannot be stopped at all
Wow, for the first time in my life I was actually cheering for Malenia. Also, can you imagine the hurt that would come from finding Miquella, giving no care about his sister, having accepted the pledge of someone that she was sent to assassinate? Not cool, golden boy. Not cool at all.
12:08 - 13:27 is just really funny to me. This random guy on a bull manages to get the unkillable blade to bring out her goddess form. "I am Malenia, blade of- ow stop" "YEE-HAWH MOTHERFUCKER!" "I- ow- no, please-"
@@Virosaa absolutely not. Thats like saying godrick should scale up to melanias level due to leveling up existing. Absolutely insane and illogical take.
Excuse me, which of your mods includes Boss vs Boss? And wit the mod you add bosses like from Sekiro, or Bloodborne so that they fight against others, with your mods?, to know which mod or pack I should pay for, to do that kind of things
for all those who complain that malenia deals too much damage you should think about the fact that against the base game she is completely a walk in the park even against endgame bosses like radagon So it is more than reasonable that she is simply leveled up because despite having a amount of life points similar to that of the DLC bosses deals much less damage because it is designed to work without the tree fragments. ok, maybe the 300% Attack rating is a bit much but even with 200% it would be reasonable to have a good perspective otherwise what would be the point of the most powerful of the demigods hitting for like 500 damage per hit?
How about not buffing the f out of her? I was actually interested in seeing how the most powerful boss in the main game does against the completely broken dlc bosses, but there’s no reason to it if you just buff her so she can always win. Rare L, big L actually.
nah her second phase is just a cheat code against bosses, cuz they are just standing in that aenoia and getting killed by scarlet rot. Also I'm not sure about this "original scaling"
I dont understand why so many people are in comments talkin about "OrIgInAl ScAlInG LoLoLoL" yall dont have to watch the video lmao just go play the game if it's that big of an issue
25:29 god.... This was so fitting.... Im tearing up Spoiler warning below Edit: ah of course radahn dies to scarlet rot. Its written in the stars, no matter how much he tries to rewrite it.
I feel like you should've clarified that she had the Scadutree Blessing mechanic from the spirit ashes. Saying she's at original scaling seems like false advertising if you're just gonna buff her damage by 3x and give her 30% damage negation.
Seems more like the bosses were buffed and this returned them to normal levels, considering that the fights played out close to how they would in lore.
You explained about scaling, but actually you looks like just a big fan of Malenia. You said about fairness, but actually you wanted her to win. We want to know how strong dlc bosses compare to original bosses. That is why you have much claim.
As I explained, if you keep original scaling, the DLC bosses are very overpowered, which is why they added Scadutree Fragments to sort of bridge that gap in scaling.
Scadutree Fragment is too much scaling for her. You didn't scale such like a too much support for other different level character before. I suspect it was just a retholic to make her win.
Yeah, nobody scales for example Godrick to endgame in boss vs boss videos, why should Malenia get special treatment? Just keep original scaling for all bosses.
@@plushtrapthebunny8356then let her lose, I don’t see the problem in that, just need to have separate videos of malenia being scaled vs when not scaled. Saying that this is the original malenia is kinda disingenuous, don’t you think? I’m saying this because malenia can STILL beat some dlc bosses with her original scaling (rellana, for example), so any performance she puts up is VERY impressive.
Everyone here has no common sense, she is buffed yes. But without the buff she will be absolutely destroyed by every boss because DLC bosses have more damage and more damage negation than the base game, literally she won't be able to make any bosses go into their second phase before dying (including her second phase). Unless of course you just wanna see 20 minute video of this boss getting destroyed by every single DLC boss in the game.
FIRST COMMENT also GIT GUD and ELDEN RING IS DA BEST VIDEOGAME EVER CREATED. THE DLC ALONE IS 5 TIMES BIGGER THAN ANY EA OR UBISOFTS SO CALLED AAA (BUT IN REALITY FFF) TITLES AND ITS CHEAPER AND FAIRER IN PRICING. NO REAL MONEY SHOP, MUCH MORE CONTENT AND THAT YET ALONE IN THE DLC. AND ITS GOOD. NO POINTLESS BRAINLESS REPEAT QUESTS AND YOU HAVE TO ACTUALLY THINK. ELDEN RING IS A GAME. ELDEN RING IS FUN. ELDEN RING IS ❤
Hilarious that you tried making Malenia seem sympathetic to St. Trina, when the armor set you get from the final boss of the DLC explicitly states she not only knew about Miquella's plot but also actively assisted in it. It was the reason she attacked Radahn in the first place, an attempt to kill him so the soul of his 'promised consort' would be delivered unto Miquella.
both a first (as far as im aware) complete dodge of a waterfowl dance by a boss AND used a waterfowl dance to dodge a phase change attack. dang good video
I think what struck me the most, is the beginning. A story of the blade of Miquella, deep in slumber from her final bout with Radahn, as the faint whispers of St. Trina reach her ears. No eyes are needed to know that the voice belonged to a vital part of her dear brother. A part that was removed and thrown away into the depths. Malenia supported him ever since they were children and they have a close bond. But how long would she endure, if she had to witness Miquella losing himself? This is an idea I have had for myself, ever since I finished the dlc and it is nice to see others having similar ideas for a what-if scenario. Perhaps it is time to put that on paper 🤔
17:45 Curse you Bayle! I hereby vow! You will rue this day! Behold, a true drake warrior! And I, Igon! Your fear made flesh! Solid of scale you might be, foul dragon... But i will riddle with holes your rotten hide! With a hail of harpoons! With every last drop of my being!
Honestly why even make this video if youre going to buff malenia 3x? Im sure we all wanted to see base malenia vs bosses, not some version of her on steroids.
Don't think she's supposed to be this much of a tank, couple that resistance with the healing and the rot (and immunity to grabs) and these fights become boring.
I think the expansion bosses are stronger than the main game bosses. After all, they are faster and don’t get knocked out as quickly, and you just pump Malenia. For this I will unsubscribe from the channel as if this creature is stronger than anyone else.
There was a lot of confusion regarding the scaling of Malenia, this is her original scaling. HOWEVER, there is a technical detail that should've been mentioned in the video; which is that she was given the same advantage as the spirit summon ashes if fully upgraded with the new Scadutree Blessing mechanic, which gives is around 30% extra damage negation, and triple the attack power. This was done because the DLC bosses are designed in a manner where their stats are very high in that regard, and to have the summoned enemies have their "original power", they scaled it off in such a way, and we followed it in the video.
We will be taking that aspect more closely in detail in the next videos and figuring out the exact way the mechanic works; in order to balance the fights in a better manner, however for the time being, enjoy the content!
You should've used the blessing that the players have instead of that, I don't think players get triple the damage from even a fully upgraded blessing
@@knightgabriel1311 No, they only get double and have zero damage negation. They have a boost to flat defense, but no damage negation add-on.
@@davidrajaruzicka5546 I mean… this is definitely lore-accurate though, isn’t it?
@@davidrajaruzicka5546 Actually the player gets a percentage Dmg Negation of around triple.
@@Arrakiz666 yeah ecect maby rodan mikala and rellana twin moon knight and a couple others since each have a canoicly power reason why malail would either lose or barly win at her Godess of rot phase
She kills her brother and says, “Dearest miquella, my brother, I’m sorry.” 😅😂
Her cleanrot knights(fanboys): she’s blind and doesn’t smell her brother as well due to the rot
She came here to killed the mastermind 😂
Elden Ring is cold man
She came to kill her brother since she learned she became an insectuous gay person
Kind of profound
This video taught me two things: 1. She is Malenia, Blade of Miquella. 2. She has never known defeat
They tripled her stats
@@farhudfarhudi410 they balanced her stats to every boss lv
@@farhudfarhudi410 Her Rot is op. Otherwise, she would be already dead when radahn turna 2nd phase without applying rot, but even her stats wouldnt be tripled, she still can kill radahn but she dies too.
A little tarnished defeated her, and all bosses in the game
Radahn 2nd is op, Otherwise he already Dead@@walferdia
"Those stripped of the grace of gold will all meet death in-
"I am Malenia, Blade of Miquella"
Idk what's scarier 😭
who is not to say a blade cannot be used against its own master, lol
@@madmaddox3451 Malenia a puss compared to Messmar
“And I have never known defeat”
Nope because fucking radahn took me 8 hours tò beat his ass
Malenia only 3
that final fight was kind of epic as hell not gonna lie felt like anime when malenia went into second faze too
She got buffed alot
@@echidnawitchofgreed92 Radahn almost flew into the sky but he failed because his blood was drained until it ran out
Rellana is both Malenia’s aunt and sister in law 😭. Also lore wise, Miquella sent Malenia to fight Radanh and damage his brain, so Miquella’s can revive his soul later on and Radanh wouldn’t be able to object. Miquella the kind should be known as Miquella the freaky. Our boy Mogh was a victim, not the other way around.
The whole situation with Mohg makes me sad. Radahn and Mohg are both victims of Miquella, the prodigious empyrean is fucking disturbing as hell. Wish I could’ve killed him and not Radahn (though I guess we’re mercy killing Radahn at this point).
Btw, I do love Miquella’s character, but I do want to kill him for his disturbing acts. I love-hate him, lol.
Yup, mohg Is a victim, Is miquella the s*xual maniac
@@kokocarillo9931 mercy killing this man twice.
@@kokocarillo9931 he was mind controlled by miquella
@@kokocarillo9931Yep. As Miquella compels one’s affection, he most subtly strips them of free will, divests them of their humanity. In fact, Miquella echoes his parent, Radagon and Marika, in that he would rule as God and Lord, for his Lord’s mind is not necessary
When messmer said “ a curse upon thee” it really hit different because malenia is cursed
Everybody here is so annoyed they buffed Malenia so she would have a chance, it's so funny, like you think you want her without the buffs but I've seen over channels do that and every base game boss just gets two-shotted cause of the dlc's unreasonable scaling it's so boring. Giving her the spirit summons boss is completely reasonable and shows us who would win based on moveset alone.
I've seen a video of base malenia against the dlc bosses, she still recks.
15:41 she did 3k damage.
That is not original scaling
he must have negative immunity to rot or smth
the uploader changed some values around, the sote bosses should be doing a whole lot more damage than they are. Maybe he has all the scadutree fragments which is meant to trivialise the dlc for people struggling
@@Grrimhildr yeah probably, but claiming it's her original scaling is claiming it's the original damage without any change, scadutree blessings are changing the damage, so it's not really the thing we wanted to see
The Garden of eyes said they tripled her stats to "be fair"
@@JudeEaley yeah lol
I love Malenia a LOT. But even I can see she's buffed. If that is the equivalent to the scadu tree buffs, then fine. But otherwise I know she'd lose to almost everyone here cause the dlc has stats that are WAYYYY too high for basegame
It's not he gave her the spirit ashes buffs which triple her damage and give her something like 50% damage negation.
Well ye we get buffed so she deserves to get buffed too
@@Marblebattles not by THAT much though.
@@Bro-dot-they'll provide a full descriprion of the buffs used
still she is ad end game boss lore accuratly at the same level of Mesmer and co.
Yeah lore wise she washes everyone here but Radahn.
Boss who defeated Malenia, blade of Miquella : I'M FINALLY BEAT HER !!!
Malenia, goddess of rot : Yes ?
Well yes but actually no
21:35 Biggest battle for custody in history.
I dont remember her doing 2000 damage in single attack
Not the original scaling, she's buffed here. I guess the other bosses are buffed but idk
@@MF-ui5uk i think she shouldnt be buffed it would be more interesting
@MF-ui5uk That's just unfair. She has 2 bullshit abilities and he still decided to buff her? This whole video isn't accurate then. She needs to be at her normal level for us to actually see how she fairs.
@@anonisnoone6125 agree 100%
@@anonisnoone6125 she literally did over 13k damage with waterfowl dance in the vid 💀
She's going to win everytime because of lifesteal, unless You find a massive damage boss that dodges a lot like maliketh. Radamiquella comes close, but he barely dodge stuff.
the extra health bar is the bigger problem imo, messmer would've won if they had single health bars each, And obviously Radahn almost won despite it.
@@kavinh10Agreed
They changed her scale, that isn't ng base game malenia. She would definitely lose to radahn if it was the og version.
He changed her scaling. She did 3k damage with one of her normal slashes
@@zaynthemane ikr, radahn would have someting like 70% or more of his health bar up before goddess of rot
Radahn moveset is actually insane
Yeah, i saw people complain that he was boring in another video and I somewhat agreed but seeing his full moveset made me realize how badass he was
The Lore in the other hand is a different story. I guess people wanted Godwyn to be the final boss or Miquella without a consort
Which.... yeah i guess...
The Godwyn part doesnt make any sense since his soul was destroyed due to destined death
Anyways... Bayle the dread might be my new favourite boss now
@@ByrgenworthGraduate more closure on Godwin would be great but he's as dead as it gets, his soul is perma deleted by the rune of death with his body being there. People expecting him to return and complain about the lore are being hypocritical because they want to jump through mental hoops to get what they want. I am personally underwhelmed because there wasn't much build up to this reveal (except Malenia whispering something to Radhan). Also the fact that this DLC doesn't happen after we complete the main story also locks out that option from practical perspective and we know that because after burning the erdtree some quests get locked (also Miquella calls us aspiring lord)
@@ByrgenworthGraduateYeah, most of the complaints I’ve seen weren’t really about the boss itself, but about how Miquella has a lot more lore relating to Godwyn, and not much of anything involving Radahn (at least to my knowledge), so it was disappointing to many just see him again, not to mention it feels a bit like it was done for the sake of fanservice rather than the story since Radahn is pretty popular among the community.
I’m fairly certain a prime Radahn fight would’ve been much more welcome if it hadn’t been where it was.
@ByrgenworthGraduate the problem with having a standalone Miquella boss is that he was never a fighter. He's royalty and royalty alone ntm he's also just a boy (physically)
is godfrey with redhead, and magic
Seeing meleina vs radahn and her youngest brother miquella its HURTS ME 😢😢
Dearest Miquella...
Miquella is said to be the older brother of Malenia. They are twins though so they were born on the same day.
Before you get sad even further, there's a description of young Radahn helms entails Malenia's quote
"The Golden Helm worn by Radahn, Proudly displaying his heroic red hair, it's a fitting attire for a lion"
"When Malenia, blade of miquella, let the rotflower blossom in Aeonia, Radahn heard a murmur in his ear--
"Miquella awaits thee, O Promised Consort"
I swear that final boss it should of been meleina instead of him, imagine, siblings back together
"All i ever did i did to make you proud" ahh moment 💀
When does Malenia do 1k5 damage per hit? you just buff the hell out of her
Rigged its usually 600 per hit
He did.
Every other Boss in the dlc is also Buffed he just made it fair
@Angel-uc1ps But our buff only goes to 100%+ to our damage. He went WAY higher than that.
@@Angel-uc1ps Nah, Malenia has attacks that can heal her. Where is this unfair ? There was no need to make her stronger than she already is in the base game.
1:43 is just pure cinematic
Malenia: Wanna dance?
Rellana: After you.
10:00 epic fight where Malenia proves she is the goddess of rot with butterflies
I mean she has to be buffed to be able to do it so idk.
@@hedgehoginacanoe5838 They didn't buff her, they adapted her.
@@ElisOdin so they buffed her
@@hedgehoginacanoe5838 Buffing is making someone or something stronger, but with respect to itself, not with respect to others. Under the premise that the DLC bosses are stronger just because they are under the DLC setting, it is adaptation. You couldn't put Malenia to fight under her normal stats, because the only thing that makes the others so strong is just the fact that they are from the DLC, and the DLC has a difficulty setting only to make it challenging; that is, they are not that strong on their own. That's all. Do you understand or not yet?
Did u tweak malenia's scaking?
He did. Must be a Malenia fanboy so he had to make sure she stood a chance.
@@anonisnoone6125the DLC scadutree fragments in fact increase the scaling, its made in such a way because the DLC enemies in general are immensely overpowered. Go cry somewhere else.
@@ergoths
I mean, we've seen plenty of bosses vs each other through out dark souls, bloodborne and elden ring, the point was to not buff any bosses, or, at least you should say you did, because then people would know
At the start of video the claim was "...her original scaling...", did you miss that? You can't both claim that she is using her original scaling while giving her increased scaling in some form.
So yeah ofc I'd be confused when the original scaling would obv not produce this result
If you are gonna make it funny tell us that first instead of making me find out that it's wrong
Nothing wrong with a video about Malenia with all the scadu enhancements beatdown the DLC to free her brother, would be a great video, would watch
But this is claiming that she is using her original scaling while actually having about 3x as much damage + 30% damage negation, what part of "original" do we not understand here?
Clown@@ergoths
@@ergothswe wanted to see how the strongest main game boss can hold up to the ones from the dlc not another Malenia wins
I like to think this is a reality where malenia doesn't attack us, we tell her we killed mohg and radahn and what mohg did, and she tackles the dlc to figure things out.
I mean she is technically not dead just in a state of rebirth, it would have been so cool and emotionally riveting if you could summon her for help during the final fight with Radahn and Miquella.
Pontiff sulyvahn vs Rellana. Great video, I think malenia got mad at Radahn carrying miquella.
Can you redo this video with the actual original scaling please?
It will be 1shot death video game logic
As far as I can tell, they've released a bunch of videos since then and have ignored all the comments asking that. So I don't think they're going to redo it properly. They really must love Malenia. This is why I'm not subscribed to this channel. Incredibly disappointing.
Real
@@matterking1 The original scaling makes no sense with the scadutree blessing mechanic.
@@UltraStarWarsFanaticThis mechanic was made only for player, since DLC starts at the point, where his HP, ATK and DEF increase very slow. So this was simply made to keep increasing enemy's HP and ATK. For example, Malenia has 33000 HP (in summ) and Messmer has 39000 HP. The thing is people wanna see which boss mechanic is the strongest For example, Maliketh's stats are no match no match for Malenia's, yet Elden Doggo can defeat her.
I was expecting you to buff her based on the max stack of blessings, but this is ridiculous.
23:44 i am Malenia blade of WHAT THE HELL IS THAT ON YOUR SHOULDER
is that really original scaling?
.I dont remember her doing 7k damage in a 2 seconds without waterfowl
Yeah, its sus
@@theredknight9314 I went through old malenia vs boss footage and she did around 600 max damage per swing meanwhile she does almost triple that in this video
@@vintagesalsa19yeah. This Video inaccurate
@@theredknight9314
You see
This is actually not accurate
Do you guy remember how they the modder use to summon boss?
Make them become spirit ash that we can summon
And guess what this dlc have for us?
Spirit ash buffing
@@Arabyss i dont think thats how they do it but yeah.
DLC Radahn was insane, I actually died more to him than Malenia, Moveset is actually crazy. I think its cool that him and Malenia were so evenly matched here, Even with the lifesteal it was a close fight, I guess its pretty accurate to the lore lol
So i wanna know how does radahn fanbois felt after finding out their chad radahn was a gay🤣👨❤️💋👨👨❤️👨🌈
@@Mi-Jung_Kim-tq2bl I wanna know how Idiots felt after completely ignoring the lore and jumping to idiotic conclusions because they WANT it to not make sense. Actually learn the lore to all this, Its a masterpiece level twist. Radahn didn't want anything to do with Miquella, Neither did Mohg. Miquella set up EVERYTHING, Got everyone killed so he could manipulate their souls and become a god.
@@Mi-Jung_Kim-tq2bl And I'm actually team Malenia btw, Radahn as a boss is dope but I don't care much about his character compared to other Demigods.
@@butterschunkmcdonalds5333 the promise thing is true and radahn was indeed in a gay+incest relationship with miquella 🌈
@@Mi-Jung_Kim-tq2blWatch jjba every character acts gay but are ducking based and giga chats
19:54 Truly an Elden Ring moment
11:39 "Feel the true horror of the scarlet Rot.
14:40 "You Weren't Supposed to be Stronger And Harder Than Me?"
21:35 "So You Want A Rematch huh? Fine...Congratulations for Surviving The Rot By The Way"
23:45 "...And I Took That Personally... You WILL WITNESS TRUE HORROR!! YOU SICK PED-"
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@@YoruEcchi ya know
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Malenia got hyper buffed,mesmer stronger
19:50 that might be the coolest 10 seconds ive seen from any soulslike content
The timing is actually so ridiculously good
This frame makes an excellent picture to exhibit in the Louvre. 🎨🖌
I was looking for this comment.
They were not kidding when they said "every frame can be a painting"
Bayle jumping heavied into the rot pool, we've all been there buddy
I am kinda curious how much damage it would have done to him because that thing has insane tick dps
For those crying about scaling
Realize we never knew Malemia at her prime
This malenia has her base stats with scadu tree blessings
Aka meaning she is not at her prime
She is buffed with defence and attack but at most 20%
Prime Malenia is a melina that can see
Has her limbs
has her strength and no decaying body
Malenia is nerfed to hell well we meet her
She cannot see cannot use her limbs correctly
She has her strength constantly declining due to rot
She relies on hearing
Thats why her boss arena has water on the ground
A prime malenia is impossibe to beat
Rot goddess malenia with a prime body neg diffs the versw
malenia is stronger with the rot, despite losing her limbs and such it is a double-edged sword, the rot is what makes her stronger and she used it against radahn for a stalemate
@@tqd2008yes but its not supposed to drain her her vigor or Strength
She wont accept it
So it harms her
Romina accepted it and she had control a piece of the rot gods power
If malenia Accepted it it woukd probably restore her and give her new Things
@@ItachiUchiha_1724she literally blooms a second time because she accepts the rot. You can’t stop the rot unless you have Miquella’s needle which resists it ( this was damaged/lost with the radahn fight), it’s not as simple as accepting the rot, it’s stated to be a plague ingame which cannot be stopped at all
@@ItachiUchiha_1724 anyways in lore malenia barely scrapes top 10
“Prime Malenia is a Melina…”
Wot 😂
The video loses a certain something when Malenia is buffed to Hell and back.
The DLC scales with the player so I'm not sure how accurate this video is
@@joseph-ianexDoes it???
@@Joshua-dc1bs yup
@@joseph-ianex bruhhh
@@joseph-ianexthere a default modifier inside game engine for base reference
Wow, for the first time in my life I was actually cheering for Malenia. Also, can you imagine the hurt that would come from finding Miquella, giving no care about his sister, having accepted the pledge of someone that she was sent to assassinate? Not cool, golden boy. Not cool at all.
And Malenia was slowly dying in the Haligtree. It was the tarnished who had to finish her suffering.
12:08 - 13:27 is just really funny to me. This random guy on a bull manages to get the unkillable blade to bring out her goddess form.
"I am Malenia, blade of- ow stop"
"YEE-HAWH MOTHERFUCKER!"
"I- ow- no, please-"
"Lord Brother, woah, woah, WOAH, WOAH WHO BROUGHt HER IN HERE"
"curse your foolishness!"
hits malenia for 4 damage
malenia: "my foolishness?"
Ok are you sure this is original scaling? Cause I don't think that she ever does this much damage towards any bosses especially with normal attacks
No. He has edited the scaling. Shes way to strong
@@theredknight9314 Nah. She got buffed to the point of where you would get nearly all fragments. So fairly scaled.
@@Virosaa no.
Bosses should stay at original scaling
@@theredknight9314 nah, since there are fragments base bosses should scale accordingly.
@@Virosaa absolutely not. Thats like saying godrick should scale up to melanias level due to leveling up existing.
Absolutely insane and illogical take.
Before he was going to die, Radahn was about to do consort version of the meteor. It looks so cool on re-entry.
19:50 EPIC!!!!
Looking for this right here
I acrually want to see the base game base not the 3X damage version that was given here. That makes for a much better comparison
Excuse me, which of your mods includes Boss vs Boss? And wit the mod you add bosses like from Sekiro, or Bloodborne so that they fight against others, with your mods?, to know which mod or pack I should pay for, to do that kind of things
The end of second match ends up radahn get cancer rot once again and with her brother too😂
You should do bayle vs placidusaxx since they’ve had that battle lore wise
19:53 is this the most badass ER clip in history
I'm the only one wondering why Some bosses don't have the "PARRY" ability, like: Rellana?
I can't believe she scarlet rotted him again. History repeating itself
Bayle's boss fight is SO sick man
Midir got dethroned as the best dragon fight
@@arnabkumardas8358 ER might not have the best soulborne boss,but it def does have the best dragon boss
It makes sense Malenias sister would be the first to get her to 2nd phase
The last fight is like the Twin Princes from DS3 motif to it but they aren't decrepit and cursed.
Twin Prince is way better in terms of of lore and fight
I wished we fought Miquella alone🤦🏻♂️
It was lazy of them to remake Radhan as a final boss
@@Fenrir-n2jhow would he have fought? He’s a child
Мы все здесь собрались ради боя Радана и Малении)
Radahn in this video looks much better… i think we misunderstood something with the leaks…
It feels shockingly different
They were spamming mimic and moonveil or rob just to be first to upload vids
for all those who complain that malenia deals too much damage you should think about the fact that against the base game she is completely a walk in the park even against endgame bosses like radagon So it is more than reasonable that she is simply leveled up because despite having a amount of life points similar to that of the DLC bosses deals much less damage because it is designed to work without the tree fragments. ok, maybe the 300% Attack rating is a bit much but even with 200% it would be reasonable to have a good perspective otherwise what would be the point of the most powerful of the demigods hitting for like 500 damage per hit?
How about not buffing the f out of her? I was actually interested in seeing how the most powerful boss in the main game does against the completely broken dlc bosses, but there’s no reason to it if you just buff her so she can always win. Rare L, big L actually.
Someone tried it. Original malenia can only make 1/10 damage of radahn health with 2 phases😅
Fr I wanted to see how strong she would be against the dlc characters
Well we get ashes as we progress so it isn't really fair to not give her any unless you plan on clearing the DLC without taking them.
Do you fight dlc bosses without the blessings? No? This is why Malenia got buffed. All dlc bosses got buffed to hell because of new lvl system
@@haiuuu7 yeah but we wanted to see how to strongest main game boss is in sote without buffs
19:57 could be a book cover or something. So badass
nah her second phase is just a cheat code against bosses, cuz they are just standing in that aenoia and getting killed by scarlet rot. Also I'm not sure about this "original scaling"
Got buffed 3x
12:02 Malenia fits so well in Romina’s arena
This malenia is buffed so she has an opportunity against the bosses
Really 💀, nah I want to see the normal version because this is not normal
He buffed the shit out of her
She has lifesteal and two health bars. She'll be fine.
11:44
Malenia:I will show real rot, the power of your (outer)god.
More I need more.
I dont understand why so many people are in comments talkin about "OrIgInAl ScAlInG LoLoLoL" yall dont have to watch the video lmao just go play the game if it's that big of an issue
Will you make Messmer The Impaler vs Bosses - Elden Ring?
Is it original scale? Malenia's atk damage is too strong
Ex) 14:41
Shes buffed x3 idk why,garden of eyes like her to much
He buffed the f* out of Malenia.
@@guilhermetppit was required
@@Araxielgod Gave her scadu fragments. So a fair scaling. Otherwise you cant even dmg the dlc mobs.
@@Virosaa he straight Up gave her all of em and buffed her tf of is she dealing 7k on a hit,that aint even fair💀
I can't stop loving Malenia 💖
Malenia is my favorite character, voice, and aspect of Elden Ring❤ She deserves more elaboration... Way more story
Malenia is more like the boss from dlc than other dlc bosses.
25:29 god.... This was so fitting.... Im tearing up
Spoiler warning below
Edit: ah of course radahn dies to scarlet rot. Its written in the stars, no matter how much he tries to rewrite it.
Actually. Radahn would have won that if Malenia hadn’t been given buffed stats. But we could argue all day about lorewise
@@Detriax oh absolutely.
@@mewxtherealitygod4706 the dlc bosses are crazy man. Even Romina beat Malenia. And people consider Romina one of the easier dlc bosses
@@Detriax yeah but the true boss is that damn flame guardian. Messmer didn't even get it down to 1/6th of its hp
Wow that design looks very similar with Godfrey's Serosh 😮
Excellent video🎂
I feel like you should've clarified that she had the Scadutree Blessing mechanic from the spirit ashes. Saying she's at original scaling seems like false advertising if you're just gonna buff her damage by 3x and give her 30% damage negation.
Seems more like the bosses were buffed and this returned them to normal levels, considering that the fights played out close to how they would in lore.
23:43 A poor little sister betrayed by her brother who loved her so much lol
You explained about scaling, but actually you looks like just a big fan of Malenia.
You said about fairness, but actually you wanted her to win.
We want to know how strong dlc bosses compare to original bosses.
That is why you have much claim.
As I explained, if you keep original scaling, the DLC bosses are very overpowered, which is why they added Scadutree Fragments to sort of bridge that gap in scaling.
Scadutree Fragment is too much scaling for her.
You didn't scale such like a too much support for other different level character before.
I suspect it was just a retholic to make her win.
Yeah, nobody scales for example Godrick to endgame in boss vs boss videos, why should Malenia get special treatment? Just keep original scaling for all bosses.
@@browdoeunless you want to 10 minutes because she gonna lose a quarter of them they much more powerful than original bosses
@@plushtrapthebunny8356then let her lose, I don’t see the problem in that, just need to have separate videos of malenia being scaled vs when not scaled. Saying that this is the original malenia is kinda disingenuous, don’t you think? I’m saying this because malenia can STILL beat some dlc bosses with her original scaling (rellana, for example), so any performance she puts up is VERY impressive.
18:40 looks like she's cutting the fireballs
Everyone here has no common sense, she is buffed yes. But without the buff she will be absolutely destroyed by every boss because DLC bosses have more damage and more damage negation than the base game, literally she won't be able to make any bosses go into their second phase before dying (including her second phase). Unless of course you just wanna see 20 minute video of this boss getting destroyed by every single DLC boss in the game.
FIRST COMMENT
also GIT GUD
and ELDEN RING IS DA BEST VIDEOGAME EVER CREATED. THE DLC ALONE IS 5 TIMES BIGGER THAN ANY EA OR UBISOFTS SO CALLED AAA (BUT IN REALITY FFF) TITLES AND ITS CHEAPER AND FAIRER IN PRICING. NO REAL MONEY SHOP, MUCH MORE CONTENT AND THAT YET ALONE IN THE DLC. AND ITS GOOD. NO POINTLESS BRAINLESS REPEAT QUESTS AND YOU HAVE TO ACTUALLY THINK. ELDEN RING IS A GAME. ELDEN RING IS FUN. ELDEN RING IS ❤
Ngl, Malenia is still my fav boss even after dlc.
way easier, that's understandable
Malenia is an enojoyable boss for sure. Rykard’s my favorita as of now, I haven’t done any major boss in the dlc yet (my ass has been exploring)
@@kokocarillo9931 you should actually explore ! That's the fun of the game
時間を無駄にしたくない方向け
動画投稿者によって超強化されたマレニアが全てのDLCボスを粉砕します
This makes so much sense from a lore perspective 👌🏾💯
Malenia vs Rellana is cool. It’s captivating to watch their dance like battle style side by side
Dislike
Buffing her to insane levels just to win every fight is lame as hell. Try again
1:44 them staring at each other looks so badass
I just love how Malenia dances around her opponent. Beautifully designed character. She literally floats like a butterfly and I love it
19:53 to 20:00 is such an epic shot!!
why the hell was malenia buffed... normie
Of course she had to be buffed, do you wanna watch Malenia lose in all of these fights? The dlc scaling is different from the base game.
@@kevinferdian746 Her lifesteal alone would help her, she almost doesnt need buffing
Buffing Malenia that much on top of her original life steal and complete second health bar is just unfair
Even compared to us tarnished
Hilarious that you tried making Malenia seem sympathetic to St. Trina, when the armor set you get from the final boss of the DLC explicitly states she not only knew about Miquella's plot but also actively assisted in it.
It was the reason she attacked Radahn in the first place, an attempt to kill him so the soul of his 'promised consort' would be delivered unto Miquella.
both a first (as far as im aware) complete dodge of a waterfowl dance by a boss AND used a waterfowl dance to dodge a phase change attack.
dang good video
Garden of Eyes? more like Glazer of Malenia
I think what struck me the most, is the beginning.
A story of the blade of Miquella, deep in slumber from her final bout with Radahn, as the faint whispers of St. Trina reach her ears. No eyes are needed to know that the voice belonged to a vital part of her dear brother. A part that was removed and thrown away into the depths. Malenia supported him ever since they were children and they have a close bond. But how long would she endure, if she had to witness Miquella losing himself?
This is an idea I have had for myself, ever since I finished the dlc and it is nice to see others having similar ideas for a what-if scenario. Perhaps it is time to put that on paper 🤔
Malenia > Miquella
I disagree
17:45
Curse you Bayle!
I hereby vow! You will rue this day!
Behold, a true drake warrior! And I, Igon!
Your fear made flesh!
Solid of scale you might be, foul dragon...
But i will riddle with holes your rotten hide!
With a hail of harpoons!
With every last drop of my being!
Honestly why even make this video if youre going to buff malenia 3x? Im sure we all wanted to see base malenia vs bosses, not some version of her on steroids.
Because he is a Malenia fanboy and wants her to win all boss fights
Don't think she's supposed to be this much of a tank, couple that resistance with the healing and the rot (and immunity to grabs) and these fights become boring.
And still undefeated!
Shes buffed x3 in this video
Nice, my girl Malenia defeated everyone. ❤️
Garden of eyes is just a huge fanboy of malenia she losses all this fights with original scaling
The Malenia Vs Radahn fight we deserved.
I think the expansion bosses are stronger than the main game bosses. After all, they are faster and don’t get knocked out as quickly, and you just pump Malenia. For this I will unsubscribe from the channel as if this creature is stronger than anyone else.
Mesmmer and Malenia fight was simply beautiful.
Felt like a dance.
Rot mommy
Seeing the blade of miquella fight through the shadow lands to save her brother. Only to have to slay him in the end, is sad.