The .308 is by far the most versatile. In factory offerings, you can handle so many variables, distance, weight, bullet weight, size of target ... anything from something close and small to long distance and large and in between. It's offered in every platform from low end to ultra high end, bolt, single, lever, and AR ... what more could you possibly ask of a single caliber.
@Clawson_customs really the 30-06 ... it's a great round, but it's not plentiful, it's a long action round, the .308 can take any north American game with ease and at distance, the factory loads are decent, some are great, it's everywhere and any .308 can fire 7.62x51 so there's it's versatility, and it works well in various platforms, far superior to your 30-06, so you're wrong, I know you don't know you are, but you are ... sorry and any other calibers you dare bring up, will lack in one area if not others, i.e. .. weight, range, power as in powder charge ... we're not talking paper we're talking actual targets whether hunting, defending either/or ... the .308 has heavy/ slower, faster/lighter and everything in between ... and if you want to further I'll say anything 300 yds and less the 7.62x39 is perfect its not sniper accurate, who cares, I can put 5 in 2in at 250yds with an sks, better with a 7.62x39 bolt ... the bs 300 blk out is 7.62x35 .. allegedly loaded for being suppressed , I don't need a suppressor, if shtf suppressors wouldn't be a concern, and 300 blk is expensive and difficult to find, 7.62x39 is again plentiful, out there, available and WORKS, in my military background, we went with what WORKS .. and those 2 rounds WORK and have for decades they're proven in field and fight, hell I even gave up my precious love for .40 s&w and went with 9mm, again plentiful, available affordable and new loads abd bullets WORK ... if it ain't broke don't fix it, Creedmoor is a competition round , it's light fast and accurate, has no weight, no mass, won't drop a heavy target at distance, I use that just as an example, like the .350 legend, it's slow very heavy and outside 250yds pretty useless (in application) they don't "WORK" ...
@josephrogers8213 Dude, bro, sir, SERIOUSLY.... that's what you throw out a 24/7 scenario in an extreme environment. No one's even in for 24/7 ... and 9mm isn't my personal first choice. My carry pistol is a G22 that's. 40s&w been my go to for 20 years ... 9mm is just the most popular, most available and new atmosphere are very effective. And the .308 has taken down grizzlies... browns, any and every north American game ... would I take it on safari... NO ... but I deal in daily, reasonable occurrences that are commonplace, not Kodiak Islands or extended stays in Siberia ... geez.
🕵️♂️ When Your Choosing the 45-70 (on the heavy end) and the 223 (on the lighter end) for Deer Over the 270 Winchester Shows that His JUDGEMENT is Questionable, at Best! 🙃
I realize how old i am watching this. I have experience with most of these chamberings. There's nothing in this I would dispute. As a reloader, my preference is a model 70 featherweight in 7x57. Although I hunt out west where distance is more of an issue, my 270 really shines in this environment. The old 3030 served me well in the hills of Pennsylvania where i used to live before i retired.
Get rid of .223 and .243 and replace them with .270 & .308 and your list is fixed. Also 6.5 has an argument but I think 7mm mag or 300 mag might be in there instead of 6.5 just because of longevity.
The biggest whitetail I ever shot was with a 243 Winchester, high shoulder shot with a 100 gr nosler partition! He was going down and recovered , never bled a drop , now in the woods I use the old 30 30 Winchester with Winchester 150 gr hollow points and they don't take a step! God bless and good hunting to you all!
I'm not a 270 fan.... but I agree with most everyone else. The 270 should be there. 300 Savage is a balanced deer cartridge...one of my favorite. So because of that, the 308 is even slightly better.
I don't dislike the .270 Winchester. And I agree with you 100% 300 Savage and .308 Winchester are great deer hunting rounds. If you know about the 300 Savage you must be an old geezer like me. No one mentions it much anymore. Happy hunting.
There are too many rounds to just have five right now. Easier to say 308 family of bullets, 30-06 family of bullets etc. hope you all have a great 2023 season.
Seems every few months a new cartridge comes along that we may be told makes all of ours obsolete. As for me, it may be grandad's 30-30 Winchester lever or dad's 35 Remington this year is heading to the fields and woods.
LoL. That's right. .30-06 is flat murderous on deer. You can shoot a deer with one. And the first thing to hit the ground will be the deer's taste buds.
30-06, 270, 243, 30- 30, 308, 35 Remington,( 7mm rem mag for large deer and mule deer) 25-06, this list is in no particular order. I'll give 6.5 Creedmoor, 350 bushmaster and 360 buckhammer honorable mention.
I have killed deer with all of those except the 30/30 ironically or the 35 Remington. I think those choices are spot on although I would have put the 270 in there somewhere.
I have 3 bolt action rifles (1 chambered in 7mm-08 rem. and 2 in .308 win). I love the mild recoil as I am a small frame hunter. I have also taken a deer with an AR-15 chambered in .223rem with a 55 grain frangible bullet. Which one is my favorite? Depends on where and how I am hunting! All of the cartridges you listed are capable of taking deer sized game. Shot placement is the key !!!
I am an old goat. And I have killed a lot of deer. I haven't killed a deer with a 6.5 Creedmoor but I have no doubt about it getting the job done. I have used a variety of different calibers over the decades. But I like the .308 Winchester. The 7mm08 Rem is a great deer killer as well. A friend of mine's whole family uses 6.5 Creedmoor and they kill a bunch of deer. I wouldn't use a .223 Remington. There are too many better choices in my opinion. It is hard to beat a .270 Winchester firing a 130 grain Nosler Partition. That combination will lay a deer flat at the impact. This video should have had two dozen different rounds on it if the intent was to give real advice.
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6.5 creedmore is not all that flat shooting unless you are putting it next to 30-30 or 45-70. the Creedmore does check a lot of boxes for most deer hunters so i can see why its so popular. MY top deer rounds Inside 300yards I still am liking the 6.8spc but the 6 ARC has a lot going for it both are great for youth hunters. Hunting dense woods or need strait wall then 350 legend. Hunting open plains and need some range 25-06, 6.5 PRC, 270win, 280AI, and if you still think you need more 7 Rem Mag.
I have a 35 Remington. Unfortunately I see it fading in sunset. When the price of ammunition is at 95 bucks a box in some places . I don't see it hanging on only the handloaders will keep it alive.
The 223 does not belong on this list. It will work, so will a sharp stick, but it's little bitty bullets just don't give you enough for quick kills. Many kids in my part of the woods have lost deer with them.
Thank you for this. I have deer hunted for decades. And killed a lot of deer. I can't understand why someone would use a .223 Rem for deer hunting. Maybe deer shooting, where they were shooting off a tripod or something. When I shoot a deer I want the impact and wound channel to look like I meant business. A .308 / .30-06, 7mm08 / .280 Rremington does that. They mean business. They leave a blood trail a blind man could follow. If it is even necessary.
I have killed 7 deer 3 bucks and 4 doe with the 223 and never lost one shot placement and ammo is key but now moved to 30/30 and 270win 6.5 grindel and 300blkout
.356 Winchester is hard to beat. Winch made a small run then discontinued them back in the '80's. With a short, compact model 94 they hit like a ton of bricks. Good brush rifle, not intended to shoot through brush as many might think, but short barrelled for manoeuverability and ease of carry. It's a hard trade off to find something better unless you're just looking for additional range, then the 280 express would also be a good choice.
I don't have any experience with the 280....but the .356 is a different story! I've only used it a couple of times but it hits like the hammer of Thor. My go to lever action is always the .35 Remington. And I own A LOT of lever actions, including the .356. I'm surprised the .35's aren't far more popular than they are. They kill game way out of proportion to their paper ballistics.
I agree with your liking of lever rifles. I have a Winchester 1866 and a reproduction (Taylor's and Co.) 1873 along with numerous others. @@johncoleman2495
I've shot them all, and don't dispute anything in this video. Over the years I've gained an affinity for the .264 Winchester out of my pre-64 model 70; and for my old Mannlicher Shoenauer chambered in 7x64 Brenneke. Be that as it may, all of these will do the job in experienced hands. Thanks for the video.
The list goes on for 13:29 ever but its really hard to beat the 3006 and the 308 and for some bigger game elk moose and such id have to take the 300 Winchester magnum
I don't know about that..My father had a 30-30 in a Mod.99 Savage..and one year he got 5 deer himself in a party of 10..No..scope ..Just peep site...V- site end site.And everyone of them in the neck.
Cartridges like the 6.5x55 and 260 Remington have been around for decades and worked very well but have not reached the "level" that the 6.5 creedmoor has. So what is it about the 6.5 creedmoor that makes it such a superior cartridge?
Ability to handle the heavier bullets than the 260. Everything about high bc bullets these days. This person is leaving off many cartridges. Whitetail are easy to take, but there are many cartridges better than 223.
Nothing. It is a good round. Nothing more. I will keep hunting with my 7mm08 and 308. It seems like you are likely to hunt with a gun you already have too. If it works let it keep working I say. I agree with your comment. Happy hunting.
I am always of the opinion in the KISS principle, keep it simple stupid. Best cartridges , 30-06 designed 1906, 308 Winchester or 7.62 NATO designed in 1954 or 358 Winchester, 35 Whelen - 400 Whelen, designed in the 1920's by Frank Howe. Just a neck up from the 30-06. Thats it, thats all you need or want. I like medium bores.
Love my 308 but a 7 mag with a good muzzle brake "and bearing protection" is almost impossible to beat. I mean come on I shot one it felt like a 30-30 it's got over 3,000 ft lbs of energy at the muzzle and has more than 1,000 ft lbs of energy at 1,000 yards with the right loads. Imagine what you could hunt if they made a 200gr all copper bullet for a 7 mag
It is obvious you prefer the 6.5 PRC and have heartburn with the 308. But you are confused about the recoil as the 308 has less recoil than the 6.5 PRC. Feel free to watch MDT Sporting Goods video “How much do different calibers recoil?”
so many variables especially comfort in shooting, low weight for some types of hunting means oppressive recoil with some rifles and cartridge choice. getting ammo has been a major factor. the 30/06 is too big and heavy recoil for deer sorry too difficult for many. not a fan of the AR15 223. distance makes a massive difference in suitable choices. no way a 30/30 works as a choice over 200 yards for most.
Killed a four year old Bull Elk with the 30/30 using 140gr monoflex from Hornady. Balistic Gel testing wound channels are on par with Federals Power Shock 150gr at 100 yards but with 300 yard capabilities.
Hands down the 6.5 Prc in a 16.5" barrel. Recoil less than 308 and 270. Outperforms every 308 based cartiages @ 500 yds. It actually is better than every standard 3006 based cartiages. If you dont believe me ,DO the stats
Debating over the best deer caliber is an inherent part of hunting traditions and an utmost controversial activity ! To me it's undoubtedly the .243 : low recoil, flat trajectory, high velocity, powerful enough terminal energy and perfect accuracy !
A list for 2023 should factor in ammo availability. Some of these cartridges are getting hard to find. So the list is invalid to start. All these rounds are "adequate," but many better rounds exists that are far more available.
Don't like tracking deer. So I use 358 Winchester or 350 Remington magnum with 180gr. Speer flat points in the thick stuff. 270Winchester in the open fields.
7mm-08 is pronounced “seven millimeter oh eight.” Calling it “aught eight” doesn’t make any sense since it’s a necked down 308 Winchester. Nobody would ever refer to 308 as “three aught eight.”
Ive shot a LOT of different rifles over the past 30 years. For 300 yds and under, I prefer a 6.5 Grendel or 6.8 SPC with th correct monolithic hollowpint. Almost zero recoil, will fit in an AR platform, shoots just as flat as a 6.5 Creedmore, kills just as fast as a 30-06, and is an absolute tack driver. If you're limited to 200 yds or less, then a 300 blackout with a 120 or 125gr bullet is hard to beat. Its not a tack driver, but its cheap to shoot and very versatile. Beyond 300 yds, id probably go with a 260 AI, or a 280 AI if elk is an option. Will a 223 kill a whitetail using the right bullet? Yes. In southern states where the deer are small, its fine. In the midwest, where mature bucks field dress over 200 lbs, its definitely less than optimal. Hunters who like it are hunting states where the deer arent much bigger than a German Sheppard.
Very irresponsible putting the 223 on this list. It doesnt even make the top 50. Just because it can kill a deer doesn't mean its amongst the top choices. With good placement a 22lr can kill a deer but I'm not going to claim it's the second best round.
Unless it's legal in all 50 states to use to hunt deer , then it cannot be considered the best !!! You gotta be legal to deer hunt with it in any state. Makes absolutely zero sense to put a cartridge in the running that's illegal in some states.... That's an automatic DQ !!!
I think pretty much, they're all capable in the right hands under the right circumstances. And I know there's actually a bunch more. But you don't want to be here all day right! Lol!😊
Best cartridges to kill deer is 308. Low recoil, lots of options, lots of guns and cheap to shot. 308 killed my first deer in 1982 and will kill my deer in 2023. No need for marketing hype by gun manufacturers.
A biased opinion, different strokes for differen folks, I'll stick to what I know & if you roll your own, everything is crucial, tailor to your needs, Ret. Vet. 🍻
Yep. For me, any .30 caliber is fine, but if I'm in (big) bear country, I'll carry my 370 Sako (9.3mm). Odd choice, but it's just as you say. FWIW, they both carry 6 rounds and are almost identical rifles... Besides, the conversation should be a bit more terrain oriented...a zippy wonder cartridge won't benefit anyone in the woods, and a 30-30 is a poor choice on the plains...
I've been hunting for many years best cartridges you can have for deer is one that you know and that you're good at making proper shot placement plain and simple no ifs ands or buts about it I don't care what didn't you cry baby say
You don't know much about deer hunting do you?? Where is the 257 Roberts, 243 Win, 25-06 , 270 Win ,30-30 , 308 Win, 30-06, 7MM and the 8MM-06.. You need to get out WEST and see what they use to hunt deer........
This list is so wrong, no way in hell i would use a .223 or a .243 for deer. Where the heck is the .270 and .308 at? you need to redo this video with the correct calibers.
Obviously, this is based on your opinion, and not fact or reality. The 270 Winchester, and 308 Winchester has probably kill more deer than all of your stuff put together. The only one that you’re touting that I really believe is the 3006.
No 308 or 270 your just talking about rounds you like and killed deer with that be like me saying the 30-06,308,30-30,303British and 6.5creed are the best cuz i own and killed deers with them rounds, first is shot placement and a deer hunting bullet and most center fire rifles are good deer guns i would take the 223 off the list unless the shots are lil more then 100 yards or less but 223 im not taking deer hunting
Umm, you show four manufacturers and one cartridge family name in your thumbnail. Clearly, you left out Hornady? That influenced me not to even take your video seriously.
Got to laugh at small calibers being deem inadequate = butt something with a lot less Ft pounds and range = bow and arrow is ok for any game including big BARES : would consider some of the larger calibers over kill on smaller game because of the amount of damage . The best caliber is the one you have!
1. There is no such thing as "the best" deer cartridge". 2. Once you realize the truth in statement #1, you'll realize how pointless these "best" videos actually are.
Cannot believe you actually skipped the 308 win. I'm extremely skeptical of anyone who would tout the 223 and 243 but completely ignore the 308!!!!
My thoughts exactly👍
And the 25-06
Yep
Agreed! His inclusion of the .35 Remington is the only reason I was nice🤣
The 308! Omitted? 'What?!?!
Have a 308Win, 270Win, 6.5 Creedmore, 350 Legend, and 9mm, 357magnum, and 45 Colt carbines. They all drop the game animals in their effective ranges.
.308
Always worked.
Always will.
yes!
Okay…….can’t believe the list didn’t have 25-06 or 270 on it. Can easily take two off and put these on. My opine!
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The .308 is by far the most versatile. In factory offerings, you can handle so many variables, distance, weight, bullet weight, size of target ... anything from something close and small to long distance and large and in between. It's offered in every platform from low end to ultra high end, bolt, single, lever, and AR ... what more could you possibly ask of a single caliber.
308 suxs not as powerful as the 30-06 and so many other calibers are so much better then it that I'm amazed it hasn't disappeared yet
@Clawson_customs really the 30-06 ... it's a great round, but it's not plentiful, it's a long action round, the .308 can take any north American game with ease and at distance, the factory loads are decent, some are great, it's everywhere and any .308 can fire 7.62x51 so there's it's versatility, and it works well in various platforms, far superior to your 30-06, so you're wrong, I know you don't know you are, but you are ... sorry and any other calibers you dare bring up, will lack in one area if not others, i.e. .. weight, range, power as in powder charge ... we're not talking paper we're talking actual targets whether hunting, defending either/or ... the .308 has
heavy/ slower, faster/lighter and everything in between ... and if you want to further I'll say anything 300 yds and less the 7.62x39 is perfect its not sniper accurate, who cares, I can put 5 in 2in at 250yds with an sks, better with a 7.62x39 bolt ... the bs 300 blk out is 7.62x35 .. allegedly loaded for being suppressed , I don't need a suppressor, if shtf suppressors wouldn't be a concern, and 300 blk is expensive and difficult to find, 7.62x39 is again plentiful, out there, available and WORKS, in my military background, we went with what WORKS .. and those 2 rounds WORK and have for decades they're proven in field and fight, hell I even gave up my precious love for .40 s&w and went with 9mm, again plentiful, available affordable and new loads abd bullets WORK ... if it ain't broke don't fix it, Creedmoor is a competition round , it's light fast and accurate, has no weight, no mass, won't drop a heavy target at distance, I use that just as an example, like the .350 legend, it's slow very heavy and outside 250yds pretty useless (in application) they don't "WORK" ...
@hur1kane ya the 30-06 isn't the best but it's better than 308 that's for sure I personally don't use either of them two
@@hur1kanetry 24/7 for thirty.days on Kodiak Island your 308 and 9mm will not be your first choice
@josephrogers8213 Dude, bro, sir, SERIOUSLY.... that's what you throw out a 24/7 scenario in an extreme environment. No one's even in for 24/7 ... and 9mm isn't my personal first choice. My carry pistol is a G22 that's. 40s&w been my go to for 20 years ... 9mm is just the most popular, most available and new atmosphere are very effective. And the .308 has taken down grizzlies... browns, any and every north American game ... would I take it on safari... NO ... but I deal in daily, reasonable occurrences that are commonplace, not Kodiak Islands or extended stays in Siberia ... geez.
You forgot the 270 Winchester...
🕵️♂️ When Your Choosing the 45-70 (on the heavy end) and the 223 (on the lighter end) for Deer Over the 270 Winchester Shows that His JUDGEMENT is Questionable, at Best! 🙃
I too was disappointed when he didn’t mention the 270 win
That's a crime!
I realize how old i am watching this. I have experience with most of these chamberings. There's nothing in this I would dispute. As a reloader, my preference is a model 70 featherweight in 7x57. Although I hunt out west where distance is more of an issue, my 270 really shines in this environment. The old 3030 served me well in the hills of Pennsylvania where i used to live before i retired.
I also like the 7x57 Mauser ...IMHO ...with 175 grain hand loads it is the perfect Eastern whitetail cartridge .
Get rid of .223 and .243 and replace them with .270 & .308 and your list is fixed. Also 6.5 has an argument but I think 7mm mag or 300 mag might be in there instead of 6.5 just because of longevity.
The biggest whitetail I ever shot was with a 243 Winchester, high shoulder shot with a 100 gr nosler partition! He was going down and recovered , never bled a drop , now in the woods I use the old 30 30 Winchester with Winchester 150 gr hollow points and they don't take a step! God bless and good hunting to you all!
Yes, that load is really popular in E. N.C.!! They sell tons at Fayetteville W.M.!!
I'm not a 270 fan.... but I agree with most everyone else. The 270 should be there. 300 Savage is a balanced deer cartridge...one of my favorite. So because of that, the 308 is even slightly better.
I don't dislike the .270 Winchester. And I agree with you 100% 300 Savage and .308 Winchester are great deer hunting rounds. If you know about the 300 Savage you must be an old geezer like me. No one mentions it much anymore. Happy hunting.
@@winstonjones7519 I'm a Geeze....!
no disrespect. @@arthurshingler2025
@@winstonjones7519 none taken!
First rifle 300 savage in model 99
There are too many rounds to just have five right now. Easier to say 308 family of bullets, 30-06 family of bullets etc. hope you all have a great 2023 season.
I always thought that the 7mm-08 was the best deer cartridge.
But MY favorite is the 358 Winchester.
308 suxs
Seems every few months a new cartridge comes along that we may be told makes all of ours obsolete. As for me, it may be grandad's 30-30 Winchester lever or dad's 35 Remington this year is heading to the fields and woods.
My .308 Winchester has served me well. Nothing new will be replacing it. I hope you get a good buck with your older rifle(s).
Yea 30-30 is a great one. I saw it drop a big buck and one guy I know that's all he uses.. he has never changed for 45years. Same 30-30 lever action
35 Whelen, I do not get presented with perfect shots and it helps avoid dealing with old cat ladies due to trailing
The Win 308 is still the best hunting cartridge for hunting deer or any other North American game.
308 sux I'm amazed that it hasn't disappeared yet
@@Clawson_customs ??? A NATO round! Why would it disappear? You´ll never run out of ammo.
@@Clawson_customslol that round ain’t going anywhere.
My daughter has taken !0-12 deer with her 243. 80 grain ttsx. All have dropped within 50 yds. Perfect combo!
I been hunting deer over 55 years 30-06 they just cant take it. Small town man. God bless u.s a.
Never have too look for a deer shot with a 30-06. I have shot a lot of rifle calibers and under 250 yards its amazing! like Thor's Hammer
LoL. That's right. .30-06 is flat murderous on deer. You can shoot a deer with one. And the first thing to hit the ground will be the deer's taste buds.
30-06, 270, 243, 30- 30, 308, 35 Remington,( 7mm rem mag for large deer and mule deer) 25-06, this list is in no particular order. I'll give 6.5 Creedmoor, 350 bushmaster and 360 buckhammer honorable mention.
.338 Lapua magnum
Im a big fan of the 270, 280 308 and the 300 WSM. Not a fan of the 6.5 CM .
I have killed deer with all of those except the 30/30 ironically or the 35 Remington. I think those choices are spot on although I would have put the 270 in there somewhere.
308 still my best caliber 😅
308 or 30.06
Tried and true. 👍
I have 3 bolt action rifles (1 chambered in 7mm-08 rem. and 2 in .308 win). I love the mild recoil as I am a small frame hunter. I have also taken a deer with an AR-15 chambered in .223rem with a 55 grain frangible bullet. Which one is my favorite? Depends on where and how I am hunting!
All of the cartridges you listed are capable of taking deer sized game. Shot placement is the key !!!
I am an old goat. And I have killed a lot of deer. I haven't killed a deer with a 6.5 Creedmoor but I have no doubt about it getting the job done. I have used a variety of different calibers over the decades. But I like the .308 Winchester. The 7mm08 Rem is a great deer killer as well. A friend of mine's whole family uses 6.5 Creedmoor and they kill a bunch of deer. I wouldn't use a .223 Remington. There are too many better choices in my opinion. It is hard to beat a .270 Winchester firing a 130 grain Nosler Partition. That combination will lay a deer flat at the impact. This video should have had two dozen different rounds on it if the intent was to give real advice.
great review--243 rocks!
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6.5 creedmore is not all that flat shooting unless you are putting it next to 30-30 or 45-70. the Creedmore does check a lot of boxes for most deer hunters so i can see why its so popular. MY top deer rounds Inside 300yards I still am liking the 6.8spc but the 6 ARC has a lot going for it both are great for youth hunters. Hunting dense woods or need strait wall then 350 legend. Hunting open plains and need some range 25-06, 6.5 PRC, 270win, 280AI, and if you still think you need more 7 Rem Mag.
.35 Remington will make a come back
I have a 35 Remington. Unfortunately I see it fading in sunset. When the price of ammunition is at 95 bucks a box in some places . I don't see it hanging on only the handloaders will keep it alive.
@@clintonlayne9253 I just recently bought .35 @ $44.95 a box. It's coming. Hornady and Winchester are selling .35.
360 buckhammer is a straight walled 35 Remington.
I am partial to the 30-06 and 338-06. 👍🏼😁
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This is the first time I have to completely agree with you. Good video.
The 223 does not belong on this list. It will work, so will a sharp stick, but it's little bitty bullets just don't give you enough for quick kills. Many kids in my part of the woods have lost deer with them.
Thank you for this. I have deer hunted for decades. And killed a lot of deer. I can't understand why someone would use a .223 Rem for deer hunting. Maybe deer shooting, where they were shooting off a tripod or something. When I shoot a deer I want the impact and wound channel to look like I meant business. A .308 / .30-06, 7mm08 / .280 Rremington does that. They mean business. They leave a blood trail a blind man could follow. If it is even necessary.
I have killed 7 deer 3 bucks and 4 doe with the 223 and never lost one shot placement and ammo is key but now moved to 30/30 and 270win 6.5 grindel and 300blkout
Y'all did a great video and I couldn't agree more....
.356 Winchester is hard to beat. Winch made a small run then discontinued them back in the '80's. With a short, compact model 94 they hit like a ton of bricks. Good brush rifle, not intended to shoot through brush as many might think, but short barrelled for manoeuverability and ease of carry. It's a hard trade off to find something better unless you're just looking for additional range, then the 280 express would also be a good choice.
Man you must be eccentric to pick such oddballs. Neither surpass the generic and much cheaper and available 30/06.
I don't have any experience with the 280....but the .356 is a different story! I've only used it a couple of times but it hits like the hammer of Thor. My go to lever action is always the .35 Remington. And I own A LOT of lever actions, including the .356. I'm surprised the .35's aren't far more popular than they are. They kill game way out of proportion to their paper ballistics.
I agree with your liking of lever rifles. I have a Winchester 1866 and a reproduction (Taylor's and Co.) 1873 along with numerous others. @@johncoleman2495
I've shot them all, and don't dispute anything in this video. Over the years I've gained an affinity for the .264 Winchester out of my pre-64 model 70; and for my old Mannlicher Shoenauer chambered in 7x64 Brenneke. Be that as it may, all of these will do the job in experienced hands. Thanks for the video.
They all work fine.
The list goes on for 13:29 ever but its really hard to beat the 3006 and the 308 and for some bigger game elk moose and such id have to take the 300 Winchester magnum
I know 30-30 is a good one. I saw it take down a big old Buck in Virginia
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.270 over 6.5CM all day!
How about the 280 Remington ? 30/06 power with the superior ballistics of the 7mm bullets !
What about 300Blackout? Friend of mine has a 300BO rifle he uses for big hogs & Deer.
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subsonic is near useless
30-30 is plenty of 👊 for deer..
30 30 will kill any deer that walks!
I don't know about that..My father had a 30-30 in a Mod.99 Savage..and one year he got 5 deer himself in a party of 10..No..scope ..Just peep site...V- site end site.And everyone of them in the neck.
@@jeff0nyschuk670 it flat works
Cartridges like the 6.5x55 and 260 Remington have been around for decades and worked very well but have not reached the "level" that the 6.5 creedmoor has. So what is it about the 6.5 creedmoor that makes it such a superior cartridge?
Ability to handle the heavier bullets than the 260. Everything about high bc bullets these days. This person is leaving off many cartridges. Whitetail are easy to take, but there are many cartridges better than 223.
Nothing. It is a good round. Nothing more. I will keep hunting with my 7mm08 and 308. It seems like you are likely to hunt with a gun you already have too. If it works let it keep working I say. I agree with your comment. Happy hunting.
Nothing!It is a mundane cartridge.
Marketing.
Marketing.
I am always of the opinion in the KISS principle, keep it simple stupid. Best cartridges , 30-06 designed 1906, 308 Winchester or 7.62 NATO designed in 1954 or 358 Winchester, 35 Whelen - 400 Whelen, designed in the 1920's by Frank Howe. Just a neck up from the 30-06. Thats it, thats all you need or want. I like medium bores.
308 should be on the. List before 223 223 is way to light
243 to small for deer....30-06 is king and always will be...next is the 270
No the king is .338 Lapua magnum sorry about disappoint you 😂😂😂
@@necummins8696 we are talking deer not elk ot moose
Love my 308 but a 7 mag with a good muzzle brake "and bearing protection" is almost impossible to beat. I mean come on I shot one it felt like a 30-30 it's got over 3,000 ft lbs of energy at the muzzle and has more than 1,000 ft lbs of energy at 1,000 yards with the right loads. Imagine what you could hunt if they made a 200gr all copper bullet for a 7 mag
It is obvious you prefer the 6.5 PRC and have heartburn with the 308. But you are confused about the recoil as the 308 has less recoil than the 6.5 PRC. Feel free to watch MDT Sporting Goods video “How much do different calibers recoil?”
so many variables especially comfort in shooting, low weight for some types of hunting means oppressive recoil with some rifles and cartridge choice. getting ammo has been a major factor. the 30/06 is too big and heavy recoil for deer sorry too difficult for many. not a fan of the AR15 223. distance makes a massive difference in suitable choices. no way a 30/30 works as a choice over 200 yards for most.
Killed a four year old Bull Elk with the 30/30 using 140gr monoflex from Hornady. Balistic Gel testing wound channels are on par with Federals Power Shock 150gr at 100 yards but with 300 yard capabilities.
6.5 PRC is my top pick. Basically a 6.5 Creedmoor Magnum. 6.5 PRC is good for everything from roe deer up to moose.
.338 Lapua magnum
Many deer hunters will swear by the 450 Bushmaster
Hands down the 6.5 Prc in a 16.5" barrel. Recoil less than 308 and 270. Outperforms every 308 based cartiages @ 500 yds.
It actually is better than every standard 3006 based cartiages.
If you dont believe me ,DO the stats
🕵️♂️ Just because you aren't shooting over 400 yards, doesn't mean that bullet choice/construction isn't important! 🤯
Idk I don’t worry about caliber I like accuracy I am high neck now they u miss completely or they don’t take a step only missed one so far.
Debating over the best deer caliber is an inherent part of hunting traditions and an utmost controversial activity ! To me it's undoubtedly the .243 : low recoil, flat trajectory, high velocity, powerful enough terminal energy and perfect accuracy !
270 is the best deer rifle
Practical hunting range 308 is fenominal
A list for 2023 should factor in ammo availability. Some of these cartridges are getting hard to find. So the list is invalid to start. All these rounds are
"adequate," but many better rounds exists that are far more available.
Don't like tracking deer. So I use 358 Winchester or 350 Remington magnum with 180gr. Speer flat points in the thick stuff. 270Winchester in the open fields.
Past time for new calibers. It's likewatching the same old episodes of gunsmoke.you can only run everything thru ringer so many times
223 diameter bullets don't make big enough hole to track deer.
What about the 270 wsm for deer ????
7mm-08 is pronounced “seven millimeter oh eight.” Calling it “aught eight” doesn’t make any sense since it’s a necked down 308 Winchester. Nobody would ever refer to 308 as “three aught eight.”
Ive shot a LOT of different rifles over the past 30 years. For 300 yds and under, I prefer a 6.5 Grendel or 6.8 SPC with th correct monolithic hollowpint. Almost zero recoil, will fit in an AR platform, shoots just as flat as a 6.5 Creedmore, kills just as fast as a 30-06, and is an absolute tack driver.
If you're limited to 200 yds or less, then a 300 blackout with a 120 or 125gr bullet is hard to beat. Its not a tack driver, but its cheap to shoot and very versatile.
Beyond 300 yds, id probably go with a 260 AI, or a 280 AI if elk is an option.
Will a 223 kill a whitetail using the right bullet? Yes. In southern states where the deer are small, its fine. In the midwest, where mature bucks field dress over 200 lbs, its definitely less than optimal. Hunters who like it are hunting states where the deer arent much bigger than a German Sheppard.
Very irresponsible putting the 223 on this list. It doesnt even make the top 50. Just because it can kill a deer doesn't mean its amongst the top choices. With good placement a 22lr can kill a deer but I'm not going to claim it's the second best round.
Unless it's legal in all 50 states to use to hunt deer , then it cannot be considered the best !!!
You gotta be legal to deer hunt with it in any state.
Makes absolutely zero sense to put a cartridge in the running that's illegal in some states....
That's an automatic DQ !!!
25-06
I think pretty much, they're all capable in the right hands under the right circumstances. And I know there's actually a bunch more. But you don't want to be here all day right! Lol!😊
Best cartridges to kill deer is 308. Low recoil, lots of options, lots of guns and cheap to shot. 308 killed my first deer in 1982 and will kill my deer in 2023. No need for marketing hype by gun manufacturers.
I have shot elk with the 243 at 300 yards and killed them
Over a 50% reduction in my opinion. . (vs. '06)
What about 25.06
6.5 grendel
A biased opinion, different strokes for differen folks, I'll stick to what I know & if you roll your own, everything is crucial, tailor to your needs,
Ret. Vet. 🍻
Yep. For me, any .30 caliber is fine, but if I'm in (big) bear country, I'll carry my 370 Sako (9.3mm). Odd choice, but it's just as you say.
FWIW, they both carry 6 rounds and are almost identical rifles...
Besides, the conversation should be a bit more terrain oriented...a zippy wonder cartridge won't benefit anyone in the woods, and a 30-30 is a poor choice on the plains...
I've been hunting for many years best cartridges you can have for deer is one that you know and that you're good at making proper shot placement plain and simple no ifs ands or buts about it I don't care what didn't you cry baby say
Not a damn thing wrong with what I already have thank you.
You don't know much about deer hunting do you?? Where is the 257 Roberts, 243 Win, 25-06 , 270 Win ,30-30 , 308 Win, 30-06, 7MM and the 8MM-06.. You need to get out WEST and see what they use to hunt deer........
243win and the 3030
Very biased re[port with no mention of the newer straight walled cartridges either.
This list is so wrong, no way in hell i would use a .223 or a .243 for deer. Where the heck is the .270 and .308 at? you need to redo this video with the correct calibers.
Obviously, this is based on your opinion, and not fact or reality. The 270 Winchester, and 308 Winchester has probably kill more deer than all of your stuff put together. The only one that you’re touting that I really believe is the 3006.
You only showed 7 cartridges in the photo.
7mm Rem Mag....
No 308 or 270 your just talking about rounds you like and killed deer with that be like me saying the 30-06,308,30-30,303British and 6.5creed are the best cuz i own and killed deers with them rounds, first is shot placement and a deer hunting bullet and most center fire rifles are good deer guns i would take the 223 off the list unless the shots are lil more then 100 yards or less but 223 im not taking deer hunting
I like my .308
there is no #1 it,s the finger and the brain that controls it .
50 bmg dont let them move unless the bullet makes the deer move lol
Umm, you show four manufacturers and one cartridge family name in your thumbnail. Clearly, you left out Hornady? That influenced me not to even take your video seriously.
284 winchester
This is the most random
List I’ve ever seen 😂😂😂😂.
yes it is a joke
No 308 or 270...give me a break.
155mm is the best
I have heart shot 2 deer with the .223/5.56.(I saw the hole in the heart) we had to follow the footprints to find the dead deer for one of them.
Out of curiosity, were you using a 55gr FMJ?
Got to laugh at small calibers being deem inadequate = butt something with a lot less Ft pounds and range = bow and arrow is ok for any game including big BARES : would consider some of the larger calibers over kill on smaller game because of the amount of damage . The best caliber is the one you have!
308
.308 cuz sum bars wore peeple clothes
300 HAM'R ?
What is a 300 hammer?
I've heard Rem came out with a 360 buck hammer.
hahahaha no, good round, but many better that he didn't list.
WHAT ABOUT BB GUNS.
1. There is no such thing as "the best" deer cartridge".
2. Once you realize the truth in statement #1, you'll realize how pointless these "best" videos actually are.
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