I never found the other body. I just assumed it was one person with a very split personality, because both brothers behaved the same way, had the same birthday, thought the same way, and got really heated over very simple disagreements. And when he hacked the robot, he had some sort of outer body connection with his other half depending on how he behaved, since it was after the bombs fell, so he was probably a bit of a nutter, and his robots ended up killing him. Like some weird suicide but not-really-a-suicide but still a suicide.
@@VictorLima-mv4ni There are identical twins, Siamese twins, and split personality disorder. There's only one body. I'm not counting the occupied coffin outside the marina, because nobody would be around to dig that grave if there were really two brothers. Fourth option is that the robots were so badly programmed they considered literally anyone alive as Eugene, and simply led them to the birthday table. But that also isn't plausible because you'd see a hill of corpses in the same spots for the past 200 years.
@@Foreststrike what if the Twin and the Split personality theory are right... If both brothers arrived at the marina together but one died while they were recently arrived the other could have developed a split personality to cope. The desire to kill the other brother is both a subconscious desire to stop the pain/insanity
They apparently couldn't just go their separate ways. They had two boats, but apparently both needed repairs, and there were only enough parts to fix one of them completely. They weren't killing each other *just* out of spite; they also wanted to get the last parts they needed from the other's boat.
There's one thing you left out, the flowers on the coffin. If you ask me, I think the brother who managed to kill the other felt guilt-filled moments afterwards and took a moment to decorate their coffin with a flower before going back in to have the sweet-roll, unknowingly walking to their death
Hey Oxhorn! Looking at the terminal entry at 3:12, Malcolm insists that they must sail north. Now, I know that Eugene and Malcolm lived over 200 years before the events of Fallout 4, but it IS interesting that in a magical little place called Far Harbor, which is indeed to the north, there is a cannibalistic human trapper named Malcolm at the Echo Lake Lumber Mill. Seems pretty farfetched for it to be the same Malcolm, especially since he's not a ghoul or super mutant (otherwise how would he still be alive..?), but just an interesting tidbit that came to mind while watching this.
Christoffer Rasmussen I thought his question was a legit inquiry, no need to be a pretentious dick. Sure fallout clouds would travel the seas (Ex. That nuclear meltdown in Japan a couple years back) but all those islands in the pacific and surrounding the Gulf Of Mexico in the Southern Hemisphere (Midway, Makin Atoll, Cuba, Bermuda, Etc.) they should be relatively unscathed in my opinion, aside from possible drifting radiation clouds of course.
I remember I was traveling from Finch Farm to Kingsport Lighthouse (I was playing on survival difficulty.) and I found Reeb Marina. I went inside and it went like normal. The robots also for some reason were repeating over and over "Happy birthday Eugene!" as they were killing me. After I killed them, I read the terminal and stuff and pieced it all together. Then, I heard gunfire. I heard a vertibird. I looked outside to see a weird rust devil robot fighting it. After that, I was killed by the BOS.
I think, since the robots say "Eugene" that Malcolm managed to program them. They killed Eugene and Malcolm put him in the coffin, but when he walked back into the kitchen the robots executed the program again because they were twins and they thought he was Eugene.
Reasons why I appreciate Oxhorn. I was exploring the marina in my survival mode playthrough last night. I think this must be the first time I've paid attention to the story elements here. I found the terminals, and both skeletons, but the "follow me" robot was glitched in my game and didn't move after his first lines, so all I knew from him was "there's a surprise for Eugene somewhere". I figured I had found Eugene's trap for Malcolm in the kitchen but was missing Malcolm's trap for Eugene somewhere. (The robots never aggro'd on me either). I assumed that the skeleton in the coffin was one of them but wasn't totally sure. So of course I made a mental note to swing by Oxhorn's channel today and get the full story. And of course he has a video on it and of course it put all the pieces together for me!
What doesnt add up is that the robots attempt to kill you, mistaking you for Eugene; perhaps implying that Eugene did not die by the robots but instead by some other means.
When I did this Part I don't think there even was Mr. Handy's inside. When I found this place there was a bunch of other robots from the Mecanist outside Attacking Raiders. I don't remember if the Mr. Handy's were outside fighting or not but I don't recall any inside.
Michael Giarusso most split personality disorders don't work like that they usually just involve quick ideological view swings you still know who you are
Many seem to think it was one guy with a split personality but that condition is still debated whether it exists or not. Identical twins are much more common than a mental illness that may not even exist. I get why one would hope for the split personality scenario though, more interesting. I also think that only one of them programmed the robots but both were eventually killed by the robots because they could not distinguish between the identical twins, I think that is more humorous anyway.
I just found out about the Atom Cats near Warwik Farm. It was a pretty interesting place. I thought I'd discovered most of the big settlements around the wasteland.
I think perhaps this is a commentary on the futility of mutually assured destruction - both wanted to kill the other for no very good reason, and ended up killing each other in the end, leaving noone to enjoy the boat. War never changes.
I always wondered why they have toilets in shacks, they use them as latrines... Now I know, but, wouldn't it be more convenient to use a box with a hole and a bucket underneath?
Could be that 200 years into the future caused the robots circuits to screw up. In Fallout 76 its only 25 years after the bombs and yet all the robots are screwed up
Might just be a case of convenient perceptions as well. Like when you run into Curie in A Hole in the Wall and she just asserts you must be Vault Security Personnel because only Vault Tec was allowed to let her out of the room, and she wanted out of the room. Fallout Robots (Not even Synths) get weirdly sapient and loophole-y a lot over odd things to fulfill their programming.
Although unrelated to this video I was going through Haddock Cove in Far Harbour and noticed the names of the people in the holotapes are/were all members of the Wyatt family stable in the WWE (I was watching this video at the time)
I was completely oblivious going into this. I felt like Oxhorn here, just a nice little random encounter but the one skeleton immediately caught my eye then... 0:38
When I first stumbled onto Reeb Marina, one of the three Mister Handy robots was roaming around outside, likely drawn out by the local wildlife, so I initially thought the third cry of "Happy birthday, Eugene!" was one of the two in the room repeating itself. I'd just sniped the Satellite Array's residents silly while following the distress signals of the recon team, so I took 'em down easily. Then, as I was strolling out and around the building to head north, from right behind me: "Happy birthday~!"
One of the Mr. Handy got stuck at the loft, another stuck in the fridge in my gameplay...so I didn't get attacked. I didn't notice the coffin so all this time I just assumed Malcolm and Eugene are either twins, in which Malcolm managed to kill Eugene and head out from the Marina...or the both of them are the same person with split personality. Watching your video kinda clarified a third possibility so thank you!
Man, I remember when I first found that place. It scared the shit out of me. After every Mr. Handy said happy birthday with that creepy voice and tone they have, and then suddenly attacked me, I dropped my controller. I was not expecting that at all.
I love how after two hundred years and the Apocalypse, somehow the notes they wrote each other Managed to not get destroyed or even blown out of their original positions lol
I dont know which skeleton belongs to Eugene or Malcolm but I think what happened given that they are twins (maybe identical) that Malcolm is successful on his plan killing his brother but being the identical twin of Eugene made the robots to think that Eugene is Malcolm so they initiate what Malcolm programmed to them. That's my guess because the robots only says "Happy birthday Eugene!" Anyways, thank you for bringing us this lores and stories. I admire you on how you tell stories on each lore of fallout 4. You're a good storyteller Oxhorn! More power to you and your channel!
*If you read the terminals more carefully, it insinuates that they are fixing up two boats, but it would seem that there is not enough parts or supplies for both. They are plotting against each other for the limited supplies.
I thought it was Malcolm who had died inside and Eugene that died outside at first, but now I can see how you said it'd be Malcolm who died outside. Reason I thought what I thought was because in the scenario, Eugene would've walked into his birthday party and would've been killed. Malcolm would bury him to "honor" the death of his brother and his pettiness. Then Malcolm would walk back in to take parts from Eugene's boat or even use what Eugene had of his boat and was then killed by Eugene's programming of the Mr Handys. That was my thought process when I first found this area. But great video! :D (Apologies if my comment seemed all over the place. My mind's not awake and it's difficult to type down every word of my thought without missing something.)
Having only found the one skeleton in the building and not finding the skeleton in the coffin, I came up with the theory that Eugene and Malcolm were the same guy with two personalities ala Francis York Morgan/Zack or Harvey Dent/Two Face. So when one personality programmed the robot to kill his "brother", they ended up killing him as programmed.
In my gameplay, I had thought that the robots attacked me because I didn't take the sweet roll. I thought it worked one time when I took it before they even attack.
I had an another theory when I played : Eugene is actually crazy and believed is brother Malcom is still alive, but he's actually just a creation of his mind who doesn't accept the death of his brother. And then the paranoia of being always alone kill him.
No oxhorn we know why they didnt take their own boats, you get from the holotape notes that they each started working on their own boats and one brother talked about getting the parts of the others boat to finish their boat so he could escape.
If they were twins, there is always the possibility that the robots merely mistook one brother as the other and killed him. Malcolm may have got shot down, feeling good after his success, surprised to hear the robots once again chanting "Happy Birthday Eugene".
It could be that Malcolm’s plan was successful, having the robots killing Eugene, but then, since they’re twins, they may be identical twins, and the robots thinking they’re seeing Eugene again, glitching their programming, killing Malcolm, and the glitch playing over again, seeing every new person as Eugene. Perhaps?
I didn't know about this quest till today, I snuck into the room and took the birthday sweetroll on my first playthough, not even realizing it was unique, and I ended up eating it later on mid fight. I found this place today in my current play through on route to croup manor, so next time I get on I'm gonna have to go back and do this quest '^^
The thing with their disagreement about north or south direction were legitimate - The north has rural areas which offer safety and ample wood supplies in exchange for having to live alone and deal with potential wandering mutants. The south has a large string of cities (New York in particular) full of potential survivors, settlements and trade (but also extreme danger from mutants and radiation). They had two boats but fuel was most likely limited (because of wartime shortages and the bombs burning away much fuel left in the world). Which meant they could only use one boat, and only go in one direction.
I have asked you in your streams in you ever liked the elder scrolls side of bethesda, and you said you preferred fallout. and I respect that. I just think that, with how in depth you get into the fallout lore, and the small stories you find everywhere, I think you would have a blast with skyrim and it's small areas and stories of the people of Skyrim. if you don't, no problem, just a thought.
Since there was only boat, my there is Eugene was kilt by the robots. Malcolm succeeded to go north and his grandchild is the doctor in Far Harbor. Cuz the doctor talks about just recently his family was considered Mainlanders. I never saw the coffin, but I like my version because it explains the missing ship and ties nicely with DLC
it's possible that one of the brothers felt bad afterwards I mean it's kind of strange we find the other corpse in a coffin not just laying on the ground because usually when you put a body in a coffin or bury it shows a sign of respect so as possible after what he did see his brother lying on the floor it shook him to his core and out of respect tried to Barium because if you truly hated him all he would have done with drag corpse out and left on the beach to rot what he didn't want to trouble finding a coffin putting his body in it
i remember this place when i hunted down a courser and i thought the robots attacked me because it was courser's bidding. Well the mystery is now solve thanks to this video and you Ox.
I just finished this quest. I didn't find the coffin with the skeleton though. The ghoul angle is interesting. They could have also just been overly paranoid. Unfortunately we don't have enough information to draw a solid conclusion. Other than they both appear to have died.
I'm glad I watched this video, because I've never once managed to trigger the robots like this. I dallied too much in my own playthroughs, I guess, so the robots must have always gotten to the back room before me.
I personally think the body in the kitchen is Malcom's. If he programmed the robots second, he could have noticed the program to kill him and overwrite it. The plan goes off without a hitch and he buries the body. When he comes back in, the fault of his programming becomes apparent: the robots think everyone is Eugene.
I know this I like a year ago but like think about it you see flowers on the coffin right, so when I think the brother buried Malcom he felt idk like remorse for him cause you know he killed his brother. Then he was all sad and went back in the marina and was still killed which to me just makes that so much more sad. Idk that's just me
i think what happened is that only the second program is what was successful, but since they are identical twins, the robots confused eugene for malcom so the robots initiated the attack on eugene as if he were malcom?
Hello oxhorn i think i found somthing interesting: Malcolm wants to go north. and if you have played far Harbor you now that far Harbor is north and after you have cleared echo make Lumber mill a man named Malcolm talks to you and he is a cannibal so i think that malcolm succeeded and went north and that he made it to far Harbor . Hope you reply!
thanks for the video ox. I always wondered what happened here on my play through when I got there the robots we're already dead. I thought one of the brothers got away
Apparently I don't explore enough lol. I discovered one Mr. Handy and killed the Bloodbugs, but I had no idea there were more robots who intended to kill me.
Yeah I had the glitch where they don't attack. I walked into the marina and all hell was breaking loose outside. It is close to those satellites with supermutants and they shot down a vertibird that landed near the marina and the bloodbugs started attacking the surviving Brotherhood troops. Some ghouls also got into the battle and in addition to wandering supermutants that were after the BOS also attacked me. So of course the robots got to the room well before me.
If they were identical then maybe the robots killed one brother, the other buried him out back but the robots then killed him too thinking it was the brother they'd already killed. This could then result in a system crash likely in the logic processors resulting in them thinking any approaching human is Eugene. As for why they killed each other who knows.
Imagine starting this game as a character named Eugene and finding this place for the first time.
My character's name is Malcolm. That weirded me out plenty when I found this place, too.
@@Wordweaver166 What's really weird is my name is Handy McOxhorn and I just got here. I'm freaking out right now.
My characters name is Eugene. This freaked me out when i first found it
I never found the other body. I just assumed it was one person with a very split personality, because both brothers behaved the same way, had the same birthday, thought the same way, and got really heated over very simple disagreements. And when he hacked the robot, he had some sort of outer body connection with his other half depending on how he behaved, since it was after the bombs fell, so he was probably a bit of a nutter, and his robots ended up killing him.
Like some weird suicide but not-really-a-suicide but still a suicide.
That's... Actually a really good theory. They are two sides of the same coin, aren't they?
Rule number 1. We don't talk about Split Personality Club.
Ever heard of twins?
@@VictorLima-mv4ni There are identical twins, Siamese twins, and split personality disorder.
There's only one body. I'm not counting the occupied coffin outside the marina, because nobody would be around to dig that grave if there were really two brothers.
Fourth option is that the robots were so badly programmed they considered literally anyone alive as Eugene, and simply led them to the birthday table.
But that also isn't plausible because you'd see a hill of corpses in the same spots for the past 200 years.
@@Foreststrike what if the Twin and the Split personality theory are right...
If both brothers arrived at the marina together but one died while they were recently arrived the other could have developed a split personality to cope. The desire to kill the other brother is both a subconscious desire to stop the pain/insanity
Oh. Those are candles.... i thought they were Nails.
Me too.
Me three.
yup same here
me six
Me seven
I didn't know the Mr. Handys were supposed to attack you.
It is what i expected since i had just watched the general atomics galleria and hesters consumer electronics videos just before XD
And I didn't know you were supposed to be attacked by Deathclaws. (Clearly sarcasm.)
Me too, they didn't attacked me
@@UnknownPerson-2004 they attacked me while repeating happy birthday lol
They apparently couldn't just go their separate ways. They had two boats, but apparently both needed repairs, and there were only enough parts to fix one of them completely. They weren't killing each other *just* out of spite; they also wanted to get the last parts they needed from the other's boat.
I knew there was more to the story (partial recollection) Thanks for putting my mind at ease.
I was like, “What a nice party.” Then they all attack.
There's one thing you left out, the flowers on the coffin. If you ask me, I think the brother who managed to kill the other felt guilt-filled moments afterwards and took a moment to decorate their coffin with a flower before going back in to have the sweet-roll, unknowingly walking to their death
Hey Oxhorn! Looking at the terminal entry at 3:12, Malcolm insists that they must sail north. Now, I know that Eugene and Malcolm lived over 200 years before the events of Fallout 4, but it IS interesting that in a magical little place called Far Harbor, which is indeed to the north, there is a cannibalistic human trapper named Malcolm at the Echo Lake Lumber Mill. Seems pretty farfetched for it to be the same Malcolm, especially since he's not a ghoul or super mutant (otherwise how would he still be alive..?), but just an interesting tidbit that came to mind while watching this.
it makes me wonder what parts of the world were untouched by The Great War.
Micco Jolon my nether region ;)
Australia or Canada, probably. No one has a problem with them.
Zophah I don't know Mad Max thinks otherwise with Australia.
Kids acting as if global nuclear annihilation wouldn't affect all countries, whether they are actually hit or not.
Christoffer Rasmussen I thought his question was a legit inquiry, no need to be a pretentious dick. Sure fallout clouds would travel the seas (Ex. That nuclear meltdown in Japan a couple years back) but all those islands in the pacific and surrounding the Gulf Of Mexico in the Southern Hemisphere (Midway, Makin Atoll, Cuba, Bermuda, Etc.) they should be relatively unscathed in my opinion, aside from possible drifting radiation clouds of course.
I remember I was traveling from Finch Farm to Kingsport Lighthouse (I was playing on survival difficulty.) and I found Reeb Marina. I went inside and it went like normal. The robots also for some reason were repeating over and over "Happy birthday Eugene!" as they were killing me. After I killed them, I read the terminal and stuff and pieced it all together. Then, I heard gunfire. I heard a vertibird. I looked outside to see a weird rust devil robot fighting it. After that, I was killed by the BOS.
Going south was bad as you know it get worst down south glowing sea ect and New york is gone
True. and if they went north they might have reached Far Harbor.
Yea pretty much and even more north Canada
Yea and maybe we could have learned about the rest of their lives on far harbor
OmegaValwin what so bad about Canada
some guy 123 nothing
I think, since the robots say "Eugene" that Malcolm managed to program them. They killed Eugene and Malcolm put him in the coffin, but when he walked back into the kitchen the robots executed the program again because they were twins and they thought he was Eugene.
Reasons why I appreciate Oxhorn. I was exploring the marina in my survival mode playthrough last night. I think this must be the first time I've paid attention to the story elements here. I found the terminals, and both skeletons, but the "follow me" robot was glitched in my game and didn't move after his first lines, so all I knew from him was "there's a surprise for Eugene somewhere". I figured I had found Eugene's trap for Malcolm in the kitchen but was missing Malcolm's trap for Eugene somewhere. (The robots never aggro'd on me either). I assumed that the skeleton in the coffin was one of them but wasn't totally sure.
So of course I made a mental note to swing by Oxhorn's channel today and get the full story. And of course he has a video on it and of course it put all the pieces together for me!
What doesnt add up is that the robots attempt to kill you, mistaking you for Eugene; perhaps implying that Eugene did not die by the robots but instead by some other means.
When I did this Part I don't think there even was Mr. Handy's inside. When I found this place there was a bunch of other robots from the Mecanist outside Attacking Raiders. I don't remember if the Mr. Handy's were outside fighting or not but I don't recall any inside.
There's actually a theory that they are the same person with a split personality
Michael Giarusso most split personality disorders don't work like that they usually just involve quick ideological view swings you still know who you are
Idk Who cares when youre writing lore, you dont have to think about that kind of thing.
this is exactly what i thought
Many seem to think it was one guy with a split personality but that condition is still debated whether it exists or not. Identical twins are much more common than a mental illness that may not even exist. I get why one would hope for the split personality scenario though, more interesting.
I also think that only one of them programmed the robots but both were eventually killed by the robots because they could not distinguish between the identical twins, I think that is more humorous anyway.
Oxhorn,what about dead named people on Spectacle island ?
That sweet roll is stale.
Just slightly
I just found out about the Atom Cats near Warwik Farm. It was a pretty interesting place. I thought I'd discovered most of the big settlements around the wasteland.
I think perhaps this is a commentary on the futility of mutually assured destruction - both wanted to kill the other for no very good reason, and ended up killing each other in the end, leaving noone to enjoy the boat.
War never changes.
Yeah it seems like Bethesda put that in to summarise the war lol
I always wondered why they have toilets in shacks, they use them as latrines...
Now I know, but, wouldn't it be more convenient to use a box with a hole and a bucket underneath?
The robots couldn't have killed Eugene. If that were the case, why would they mistake the SS as Eugene?
C t g s l a y e r Makes me wonder. If they had mistaken you for Eugene, how could they tell twins apart. Who knows who was killed first?
Maybe they were just programmed to kill whoever entered the room, without it mattering "who".
Could be that 200 years into the future caused the robots circuits to screw up. In Fallout 76 its only 25 years after the bombs and yet all the robots are screwed up
Might just be a case of convenient perceptions as well. Like when you run into Curie in A Hole in the Wall and she just asserts you must be Vault Security Personnel because only Vault Tec was allowed to let her out of the room, and she wanted out of the room. Fallout Robots (Not even Synths) get weirdly sapient and loophole-y a lot over odd things to fulfill their programming.
That sweet roll is 200 years old? must be rotted as heck.....
Although unrelated to this video I was going through Haddock Cove in Far Harbour and noticed the names of the people in the holotapes are/were all members of the Wyatt family stable in the WWE (I was watching this video at the time)
Oxhorn should be a teacher he always ends the story with a leason
Enclave story in the commonwealth
pls oxorn
As commander of the Enclave, I demand this to be done!
has this video been made yet?
lol I just got autumn on fallout shelter
0:43 "General Atomics send their regards!" *betrays you*
“Happy birthday Eugene” “Happy birthday Eugene” “Happy birthday Eugene”
Happy Death Day rated PG-13
"...Over 200 years ago..."
LET'S EAT A 200 YEAR-OLD CAKE!
Can you do story of proctor Ingram
There's not a lot of backstory on him
Her*
I think this glitched for me all they’re saying is “ma’am!” “Hello there!”
The most tragic part is that they both died on their birthday.
you know I don't recall ever fully exploring this place...so next time I am in the area I will.....thanks for showing this
i played over 1400 hours and i am still finding new stuff from you thanks for the great videos and it's a pleasure to watch them
I was completely oblivious going into this. I felt like Oxhorn here, just a nice little random encounter but the one skeleton immediately caught my eye then... 0:38
Your videos give me a new appreciation for Fallout 4's lore. Thanks Ox
When I first stumbled onto Reeb Marina, one of the three Mister Handy robots was roaming around outside, likely drawn out by the local wildlife, so I initially thought the third cry of "Happy birthday, Eugene!" was one of the two in the room repeating itself. I'd just sniped the Satellite Array's residents silly while following the distress signals of the recon team, so I took 'em down easily.
Then, as I was strolling out and around the building to head north, from right behind me: "Happy birthday~!"
I love your vids Oxhorn.
Woah i just realized this works as an allegory for the whole nuclear apocalypse/MAD history of fallout.
One of the Mr. Handy got stuck at the loft, another stuck in the fridge in my gameplay...so I didn't get attacked.
I didn't notice the coffin so all this time I just assumed Malcolm and Eugene are either twins, in which Malcolm managed to kill Eugene and head out from the Marina...or the both of them are the same person with split personality. Watching your video kinda clarified a third possibility so thank you!
The story bugged out for me. The robots never attacked. I was there to take out a Courser.
Man, I remember when I first found that place. It scared the shit out of me. After every Mr. Handy said happy birthday with that creepy voice and tone they have, and then suddenly attacked me, I dropped my controller. I was not expecting that at all.
I love how after two hundred years and the Apocalypse, somehow the notes they wrote each other Managed to not get destroyed or even blown out of their original positions lol
Reminds me of John and Cathy from diamond city's behavior
I dont know which skeleton belongs to Eugene or Malcolm but I think what happened given that they are twins (maybe identical) that Malcolm is successful on his plan killing his brother but being the identical twin of Eugene made the robots to think that Eugene is Malcolm so they initiate what Malcolm programmed to them. That's my guess because the robots only says "Happy birthday Eugene!"
Anyways, thank you for bringing us this lores and stories. I admire you on how you tell stories on each lore of fallout 4. You're a good storyteller Oxhorn! More power to you and your channel!
The robots didn't even work for me when I got here. They just floated around doing their thing.
*If you read the terminals more carefully, it insinuates that they are fixing up two boats, but it would seem that there is not enough parts or supplies for both. They are plotting against each other for the limited supplies.
How about the full story of Dr. McDermott (Nuka-World, Safari Adventure)?
I thought it was Malcolm who had died inside and Eugene that died outside at first, but now I can see how you said it'd be Malcolm who died outside. Reason I thought what I thought was because in the scenario, Eugene would've walked into his birthday party and would've been killed. Malcolm would bury him to "honor" the death of his brother and his pettiness. Then Malcolm would walk back in to take parts from Eugene's boat or even use what Eugene had of his boat and was then killed by Eugene's programming of the Mr Handys. That was my thought process when I first found this area. But great video! :D
(Apologies if my comment seemed all over the place. My mind's not awake and it's difficult to type down every word of my thought without missing something.)
Honestly, as an identical twin their level of pettiness is totally relatable.
The robots haven't done anything to me. My character is female, and all they do is follow me around saying: ma'am, and good day ma'am.
Having only found the one skeleton in the building and not finding the skeleton in the coffin, I came up with the theory that Eugene and Malcolm were the same guy with two personalities ala Francis York Morgan/Zack or Harvey Dent/Two Face. So when one personality programmed the robot to kill his "brother", they ended up killing him as programmed.
In my gameplay, I had thought that the robots attacked me because I didn't take the sweet roll. I thought it worked one time when I took it before they even attack.
I didn't see the coffin outside. All this time, I thought the brothers were one crazy guy with a split personality.
A dysfunctional pair of brothers teaches the wasteland cooperation.
I had an another theory when I played : Eugene is actually crazy and believed is brother Malcom is still alive, but he's actually just a creation of his mind who doesn't accept the death of his brother.
And then the paranoia of being always alone kill him.
1:38 oh these were candles, I thought that they were spikes and it was another trap for Eugene lol
there are a number of times when you are truely a voice of reason Oxhorn, keep up the good work, I bet you are an inspiration in real life as well
I just encountered these Mr. Handys. I thought it was a neat little side quest waiting for me, then I spotted the old skeleton on the ground. Oh shit.
No oxhorn we know why they didnt take their own boats, you get from the holotape notes that they each started working on their own boats and one brother talked about getting the parts of the others boat to finish their boat so he could escape.
If they were twins, there is always the possibility that the robots merely mistook one brother as the other and killed him. Malcolm may have got shot down, feeling good after his success, surprised to hear the robots once again chanting "Happy Birthday Eugene".
When I walked out, I got attacked by a deathclaw. I wasn't happy.
It could be that Malcolm’s plan was successful, having the robots killing Eugene, but then, since they’re twins, they may be identical twins, and the robots thinking they’re seeing Eugene again, glitching their programming, killing Malcolm, and the glitch playing over again, seeing every new person as Eugene. Perhaps?
My thoughts when I first found the place were, "Ha, idiots! Ooo, yes - buncha ceramic!" (After the WTF moment when the robots go nuts.)
I remember when it bugged for me so the mr handys just started screaming happy birthday Eugene until i got bored and killed them.
Oxhorn: The new ShoddyCast.
I didn't know about this quest till today, I snuck into the room and took the birthday sweetroll on my first playthough, not even realizing it was unique, and I ended up eating it later on mid fight. I found this place today in my current play through on route to croup manor, so next time I get on I'm gonna have to go back and do this quest '^^
The thing with their disagreement about north or south direction were legitimate - The north has rural areas which offer safety and ample wood supplies in exchange for having to live alone and deal with potential wandering mutants. The south has a large string of cities (New York in particular) full of potential survivors, settlements and trade (but also extreme danger from mutants and radiation).
They had two boats but fuel was most likely limited (because of wartime shortages and the bombs burning away much fuel left in the world). Which meant they could only use one boat, and only go in one direction.
@Oxhorn you should definitely get voice over work! your voice is so crisp and to the point and it lends itself very well to narrative voice overs.
QUESTION! What is the mod that makes shelves look stocked with little items? I want my settlement to look lived in.
Phil Mcwonder do it your shelf
Since they were identical, it's also possible the robots mixed up who was who.
I have asked you in your streams in you ever liked the elder scrolls side of bethesda, and you said you preferred fallout. and I respect that. I just think that, with how in depth you get into the fallout lore, and the small stories you find everywhere, I think you would have a blast with skyrim and it's small areas and stories of the people of Skyrim. if you don't, no problem, just a thought.
born in the same womb, dead from the same birthday party idea.. identical twins down to the finish.
they didn’t try to kill me because a bloodbug glitched through the walls and killed the mr handy that greets you
Since there was only boat, my there is Eugene was kilt by the robots. Malcolm succeeded to go north and his grandchild is the doctor in Far Harbor. Cuz the doctor talks about just recently his family was considered Mainlanders. I never saw the coffin, but I like my version because it explains the missing ship and ties nicely with DLC
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it's possible that one of the brothers felt bad afterwards I mean it's kind of strange we find the other corpse in a coffin not just laying on the ground because usually when you put a body in a coffin or bury it shows a sign of respect so as possible after what he did see his brother lying on the floor it shook him to his core and out of respect tried to Barium because if you truly hated him all he would have done with drag corpse out and left on the beach to rot what he didn't want to trouble finding a coffin putting his body in it
This is one of those locations I tend to ignore for some reason on most replays...
I dont like those unique foods.. I usually dont like to eat things that exists only ONE
i remember this place when i hunted down a courser and i thought the robots attacked me because it was courser's bidding. Well the mystery is now solve thanks to this video and you Ox.
I just finished this quest. I didn't find the coffin with the skeleton though. The ghoul angle is interesting. They could have also just been overly paranoid. Unfortunately we don't have enough information to draw a solid conclusion. Other than they both appear to have died.
Its interesting because when i got there and accessed the terminal all the cars and Mr.Handies exploded and killed me instanstly.
I'm glad I watched this video, because I've never once managed to trigger the robots like this. I dallied too much in my own playthroughs, I guess, so the robots must have always gotten to the back room before me.
On a recent play through I encountered the area but even after talking to the one that meet you at the door they still didn't attack me
I personally think the body in the kitchen is Malcom's. If he programmed the robots second, he could have noticed the program to kill him and overwrite it. The plan goes off without a hitch and he buries the body. When he comes back in, the fault of his programming becomes apparent: the robots think everyone is Eugene.
Thanks for the Video OxHorn, Were you going to make a short Video explaining The Load Order for Mods?
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In my version the mr. Handy led me to a massive pack of feral ghouls
I know this I like a year ago but like think about it you see flowers on the coffin right, so when I think the brother buried Malcom he felt idk like remorse for him cause you know he killed his brother. Then he was all sad and went back in the marina and was still killed which to me just makes that so much more sad. Idk that's just me
Interesting story as always, hope you had a great Christmas, Oxhorn. I certainly did.
i think what happened is that only the second program is what was successful, but since they are identical twins, the robots confused eugene for malcom so the robots initiated the attack on eugene as if he were malcom?
Hello oxhorn i think i found somthing interesting: Malcolm wants to go north. and if you have played far Harbor you now that far Harbor is north and after you have cleared echo make Lumber mill a man named Malcolm talks to you and he is a cannibal so i think that malcolm succeeded and went north and that he made it to far Harbor . Hope you reply!
looks like i have bug on that location,Mr. Handy robots just ignored me or they say "hello sir" first time i came there...
Imagine all of the people who named their character Eugene and came across this area.
thanks for the video ox. I always wondered what happened here on my play through when I got there the robots we're already dead. I thought one of the brothers got away
The robots never tried to kill me
Apparently I don't explore enough lol. I discovered one Mr. Handy and killed the Bloodbugs, but I had no idea there were more robots who intended to kill me.
Yeah I had the glitch where they don't attack. I walked into the marina and all hell was breaking loose outside. It is close to those satellites with supermutants and they shot down a vertibird that landed near the marina and the bloodbugs started attacking the surviving Brotherhood troops. Some ghouls also got into the battle and in addition to wandering supermutants that were after the BOS also attacked me. So of course the robots got to the room well before me.
I just went by there the other day. I was curious about the story but I only knew Eugene’s story
i was thinking that when he finished programming the mr.handy's mistook him and just instantly shot him
If they were identical then maybe the robots killed one brother, the other buried him out back but the robots then killed him too thinking it was the brother they'd already killed. This could then result in a system crash likely in the logic processors resulting in them thinking any approaching human is Eugene.
As for why they killed each other who knows.