It’s been in my head for over 35 years. Mickey Rourke in that film left a mark in me that I carried around through my teens and in my twenties. Truly inspired.
Yeah, just watched it again the other night for the first time in decades. Forgot about "Larry Fishburne" being in it. Great soundtrack from Stewart Copeland.
It's one of the more difficult movies to explain to someone who hasn't seen it. Because on the surface... the acting is fine... it's actually full of a lot of cliches. It would be easy to pick apart, and a glass-half-empty view could be formulated that basically just says it's an average movie dressed up with some experimental visual choices at the time. But, the cliches are part of the charm. And drawing you in with the aesthetics is very intentional. The dream-like flow, the experimental audio choices... hearing someone chewing gum as loud as the other character talking. The tight-mic'd dialogue in scenes where it didn't make sense. It was all intentional. FFC wasn't hiding anything. The story wasn't Citizen Kane. The visuals and audio candy were meant to loosen the critical mind and just let the viewer ride along. Much the way you would in one of those half-awake dreams we've all had napping too long one afternoon. And it does stick with you. Difficult to say why... but it sinks into your psyche. The themes are universal. I remember this played in heavy rotation on cable TV at the time, and as soon as I caught one minute of it... I was watching the rest. Over and over. The Motorcycle Boy... didn't get to the ocean. California got in the way.
The best film I’ve ever seen , I watched it as a kid in 4-85 first time it screened in Brazilian Tv in a black and white tv … and I absolutely loved it but … something was missing, then I watched it again a few years later with my late friend Cristiano again in a black and white , not until I watched it on dvd in a colour tv than o actually got it about him being colour blind ! Absolutely art work art piece at its finest , as best as it gets , Mickey Rourke greatest performance, and Mickey Rourke in the 90’s backed off the opportunity to play a character especially made for him by Tarantino as Butch in Pulp fiction as Mickey was doing his thing getting himself in the ring boxing his teeth and facial structure bones out even though Mickey never lost a fight , but yes Coppola absolutely finest 🙌🏼🙌🏼🙌🏼
I saw this at the the theater after seeing the Outsiders. Same age as Matt is, and I've always been a big fan of him, and Rourke. I think it's one of the best Coppola movie he made in the 80's. Matt Dillon, Mickey Rourke, Nicholas Cage, Christopher Penn, Dennis Hopper, and all the other actors made this movie iconic. Add Stewart Copeland's soundtrack to it along with it being in black, and white. This movie was absolutely phenomenal i.m.o. Great story line, and great action. I still watch this to this day.
Fun fact I learned from Coppola's commentary on the Criterion DVD: the jacket that Nic Cage wears belonged to Coppola's brother August, whom he worshipped in a similar manner as Rusty James did towards Motorcycle Boy. Nic Cage's dad is August Coppola. So Francis was acting out his own adolescence in a way through the film.
One of the most or if not I dare say THE MOST poetic, metaphorical symbolic film I have ever seen in my life. Damn straight this one is staying in my mind. Even more so I relate in some ways one in particular very core.
Superb video analysis. Surreal film that improves with rewatch. Like so many who mentioned, hypnotically drawn to it like film noir. Your notion that Steve is an alter-ego is sublime-never thought of that. I teach the book to HS freshmen.
The cinematography is the best. From a very basic story line. Shows that with a combination of mood creation, actors on top of their game and a mesmerising score you CAN produce a masterpiece. Loved it from the first time I saw it in the 80's.
I was always drawn to this film, especially as a youngster. The amazing way it was filmed and that brilliant soundtrack kept me going back to it many times. I could never work out why more of my friends didn't love it.
@@kermdeezy5330 i'd think its foolish to name blockbusters of that decade. Whyd idnt you mention the horrible produced cheap movies not even remembered in b movie cults? Because that's what made the 70s..
far and away the best movie Coppola made, best movie of the 80s, best portrayal of a Northamerican teenager ever by Matt Dillon. Also great score, cinematography and best stuntwork by any brother of Sean Penn sliding down a drainpipe ever.
Great video. As you say, it's an art film for teenagers. That might be why I adored it. I've always adored Rumble Fish since I firs tsaw ir. Steve is totally real. Rourke talks to him and saves him when he's being beaten up. Rusty's friends say "where's steve" during the first fight and ask Rusty why he hangs out with him. Cage talks to him in the bar. My theory is that Steven makes Rusty feel smart, and because he doesn't like being alone. That tracking shot at the end is great.
I never thought of Steve as not being real but it fits. Almost everybody else is timeless and atmospheric but Steve is 80s. Nic Cage's hairdo is also hard to appraise. The fight scene where Rusty James gets the pane of glass in his abdomen reminded me of a fight scene in A Clockwork Orange. Not the action but the atmosphere. This film has so much atmosphere there was water literally condensing on the movie screen. (not literally) It's amazing that Nic's hair stayed upright.
I think Steve is real. The Motorcycle Boy treats him respectfully and even calls him "Stevie." Which does suggest familiarity. Rusty even tells the other gang members something like, "Steve goes where I go." In the book Steve's been Rusty's friend since they were 7. Officer Patterson talks directly to Steve. After the rumble Patterson asked something like, "isn't it a little late for you Steve?"
I could definitely see this being remade in a show format. Have a season with the rise of the Motorcycle Boy and finish off the series with Rusty James taking over the role like in the movie
Some "film theory" algorithm fed me into your channel for the lighthouse video (the gunshot ending made me laugh). I'm glad it did. Really enjoying your take and love of the movies you review. Rewatching this with the idea Steve doesn't exist.
@@TheKinoCorner I have the VHS video cassette, DVD, Blu Ray, soundtrack CD, and original movie poster of this movie. I have the book too. I've watched it I don't know how many times through the years. You did an awesome job with this video. 👍
Easily a top 10 movie for me. I remember it showing as a double feature (with The Outsiders, natch) on BBC2's 'Videodrome' in the late '80s. I only caught the last 30 minutes of The Outsiders, but Rumble Fish made such a strong impression on my teen mind, it's one of the first films which come to mind when I ponder "favourite film". I think everything comes back to the '80s for this reason: it's year zero for the modern world, in terms of economic and political structure. Th4tcherism, and Re4ganism came into effect, and changed the western world from a manufacturing economy to a financialized economy, and set the course for the way the world is today. While every successive government, and corporation, in the UK and US (at least) has continued the legacy of those aforementioned leaders, the culture back still hadn't been entirely devoured by it.
I saw rumble fish on a random website for free if yk what I mean while painting my nails and then sewing on fabric mushrooms onto a jacket. Love Matt Dillon. Love Nick Cage. Love Rumble Fish.
Good review of an excellent film. One issue is the pronunciation of Coppola which should be closer to the o in coke than the o in cot. A nitpick perhaps but accuracy on such things is part of due respect for the artist.
Dude. The picture you used for Ferris Bueller's Day Off suggests some transgressive subversion going on here. I'm a little disturbed by it, but I have to admire how subtle, yet shocking it is.
I've restarted it hundreds of times! a film that established my being as a teenager. Mickey Rourke at his best before selling his soul to Satan. This film is truly truly timeless!
Going with a theory that Steve isn't real is an interesting take on the story. I think it's pretty amazing that he essentially made two movies in a short amount of time with bleedover on some of the cast and crew. Very interesting!
Probably because Warner released The Outsiders and gave a promotional push behind whereas Universal, who released Rumble Fish 7 or 8 months later, did very little promotion. If I remember correctly (I was a senior in high school at the time), Universal just dumped it.
I was Today years old when I learned that S.E. Hinton was a woman. ...and Roman Polanski's victim was my classmate in 8th Grade. To be Honest, I didn't see Rumblefish in its theatrical run, but I picked up the Soundtrack because I was a fan of both The Police and Wall of Voodoo, and Stewart Copeland used Stan Ridgway for vocals. As soon as it became available for Video Rental, I saw it!.
Great film and in my top ten films of all time. This video is nice all around. A couple of inacuracies here and there, but the wrong pronunciation of Coppola's name is not forgivable!
You assme a LOT! Anyway.. why title the clip as if it's a masterpiece because he's in it.. he has a very minor role. It' sa masterpiece alright but definitely NOT because of Cage in any way
Hughes movies were monuments to inanity, non-allegorical, unironicly literal, non-translational; just tween angst for unimaginative in that age range of 12-14. Aside from a couple of Arnold sci-fi films, '80s films were an embarrassment. The artistic and critical usefulness of the movie industry ended in the '70s. '80s MUSIC, oth, was special.
I just watched this movie for the first time and i went back and rewatched without sound just to take in the visuals. What a movie
Saw Rumble Fish in the late 80s in an art house cinema. It blew my mind. Definitely a master piece!
It’s been in my head for over 35 years. Mickey Rourke in that film left a mark in me that I carried around through my teens and in my twenties. Truly inspired.
Yeah, just watched it again the other night for the first time in decades. Forgot about "Larry Fishburne" being in it. Great soundtrack from Stewart Copeland.
Personally for me, Mickey route as motorcycle boy is the coolest looking dude I’ve seen in cinema by far. Especially the way he carried himself
ive watched this film countless times . masterpiece in all fields
It's one of the more difficult movies to explain to someone who hasn't seen it. Because on the surface... the acting is fine... it's actually full of a lot of cliches. It would be easy to pick apart, and a glass-half-empty view could be formulated that basically just says it's an average movie dressed up with some experimental visual choices at the time. But, the cliches are part of the charm. And drawing you in with the aesthetics is very intentional. The dream-like flow, the experimental audio choices... hearing someone chewing gum as loud as the other character talking. The tight-mic'd dialogue in scenes where it didn't make sense. It was all intentional. FFC wasn't hiding anything. The story wasn't Citizen Kane. The visuals and audio candy were meant to loosen the critical mind and just let the viewer ride along. Much the way you would in one of those half-awake dreams we've all had napping too long one afternoon. And it does stick with you. Difficult to say why... but it sinks into your psyche. The themes are universal. I remember this played in heavy rotation on cable TV at the time, and as soon as I caught one minute of it... I was watching the rest. Over and over. The Motorcycle Boy... didn't get to the ocean. California got in the way.
The best film I’ve ever seen , I watched it as a kid in 4-85 first time it screened in Brazilian Tv in a black and white tv … and I absolutely loved it but … something was missing, then I watched it again a few years later with my late friend Cristiano again in a black and white , not until I watched it on dvd in a colour tv than o actually got it about him being colour blind ! Absolutely art work art piece at its finest , as best as it gets , Mickey Rourke greatest performance, and Mickey Rourke in the 90’s backed off the opportunity to play a character especially made for him by Tarantino as Butch in Pulp fiction as Mickey was doing his thing getting himself in the ring boxing his teeth and facial structure bones out even though Mickey never lost a fight , but yes Coppola absolutely finest 🙌🏼🙌🏼🙌🏼
I saw this at the the theater after seeing the Outsiders. Same age as Matt is, and I've always been a big fan of him, and Rourke. I think it's one of the best Coppola movie he made in the 80's. Matt Dillon, Mickey Rourke, Nicholas Cage, Christopher Penn, Dennis Hopper, and all the other actors made this movie iconic. Add Stewart Copeland's soundtrack to it along with it being in black, and white. This movie was absolutely phenomenal i.m.o. Great story line, and great action. I still watch this to this day.
Fun fact I learned from Coppola's commentary on the Criterion DVD: the jacket that Nic Cage wears belonged to Coppola's brother August, whom he worshipped in a similar manner as Rusty James did towards Motorcycle Boy. Nic Cage's dad is August Coppola. So Francis was acting out his own adolescence in a way through the film.
He dedicated the film to his brother as well.
One of the most or if not I dare say THE MOST poetic, metaphorical symbolic film I have ever seen in my life. Damn straight this one is staying in my mind. Even more so I relate in some ways one in particular very core.
Yeah but the unarmed guy who gets shot by the cops is white and people like to pretend that doesn't really ever happen now.
Superb video analysis. Surreal film that improves with rewatch. Like so many who mentioned, hypnotically drawn to it like film noir. Your notion that Steve is an alter-ego is sublime-never thought of that. I teach the book to HS freshmen.
Coppola loves the 'homage'- to me, this one has always felt like his version of 'The 400 Blows'.
The cinematography is the best. From a very basic story line. Shows that with a combination of mood creation, actors on top of their game and a mesmerising score you CAN produce a masterpiece. Loved it from the first time I saw it in the 80's.
Genius video! Rumble Fish is my favorite film. It has it all and nothing comes close. Cheers!
Love Rumble Fish. Micky Rourke is awesome in it n the film is made with such artistic integrity movie is still amazing definitely ahead of its time
I was always drawn to this film, especially as a youngster. The amazing way it was filmed and that brilliant soundtrack kept me going back to it many times. I could never work out why more of my friends didn't love it.
Great soundtrack from Stewart Copeland. One of my all-time favorites.
1970's best movies overall but for movies about teens you can't beat the 1980's
oh god i hate 70s film.. You got some nice stuff in the late 70s and some great Italian horror but outside of that i would avoid it at all cost lol
@@VolkXue you obviously haven't watched that many 70s films
@@obamaspaghettitoiletsauce9150 you literally brought jackshit to the conversation
@@VolkXue You'd avoid The Godfather, A Clockwork Orange, Chinatown, Patton, One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest & Taxi Driver?
@@kermdeezy5330 i'd think its foolish to name blockbusters of that decade. Whyd idnt you mention the horrible produced cheap movies not even remembered in b movie cults? Because that's what made the 70s..
far and away the best movie Coppola made, best movie of the 80s, best portrayal of a Northamerican teenager ever by Matt Dillon. Also great score, cinematography and best stuntwork by any brother of Sean Penn sliding down a drainpipe ever.
In my opinion, Matt Dillion acted way better in this film than he acted in ’The Outsiders’.
Thanks for taking the time to make this.
1:14 is hilarious and the ending is epic - this is the best cinema channel I've ever watched, you are true film lover not like the shallow nerdwriter1
Great video. As you say, it's an art film for teenagers. That might be why I adored it. I've always adored Rumble Fish since I firs tsaw ir. Steve is totally real. Rourke talks to him and saves him when he's being beaten up. Rusty's friends say "where's steve" during the first fight and ask Rusty why he hangs out with him. Cage talks to him in the bar. My theory is that Steven makes Rusty feel smart, and because he doesn't like being alone. That tracking shot at the end is great.
I never thought of Steve as not being real but it fits. Almost everybody else is timeless and atmospheric but Steve is 80s. Nic Cage's hairdo is also hard to appraise. The fight scene where Rusty James gets the pane of glass in his abdomen reminded me of a fight scene in A Clockwork Orange. Not the action but the atmosphere. This film has so much atmosphere there was water literally condensing on the movie screen. (not literally) It's amazing that Nic's hair stayed upright.
I think Steve is real. The Motorcycle Boy treats him respectfully and even calls him "Stevie." Which does suggest familiarity. Rusty even tells the other gang members something like, "Steve goes where I go." In the book Steve's been Rusty's friend since they were 7. Officer Patterson talks directly to Steve. After the rumble Patterson asked something like, "isn't it a little late for you Steve?"
I could definitely see this being remade in a show format. Have a season with the rise of the Motorcycle Boy and finish off the series with Rusty James taking over the role like in the movie
I just watched the film for the first time and loved it! great video! glad I discovered your channel
Some "film theory" algorithm fed me into your channel for the lighthouse video (the gunshot ending made me laugh). I'm glad it did. Really enjoying your take and love of the movies you review. Rewatching this with the idea Steve doesn't exist.
Ahhh, there she is- 80's teen screen Goddess Diane Lane. : )
Born in 85 but never saw this….time to watch.
He was also in Valley Girl which was released before Rumble Fish.
Fast Times at Ridgemount High in '82 also.
Awesome video. Rumble Fish is my favorite movie.
It's an absolute classic. I've seen it at least 10 times and it never gets old.
@@TheKinoCorner I have the VHS video cassette, DVD, Blu Ray, soundtrack CD, and original movie poster of this movie. I have the book too. I've watched it I don't know how many times through the years. You did an awesome job with this video. 👍
In my all time top 10 films......very cool and deep. Kudos.
Easily a top 10 movie for me. I remember it showing as a double feature (with The Outsiders, natch) on BBC2's 'Videodrome' in the late '80s. I only caught the last 30 minutes of The Outsiders, but Rumble Fish made such a strong impression on my teen mind, it's one of the first films which come to mind when I ponder "favourite film".
I think everything comes back to the '80s for this reason: it's year zero for the modern world, in terms of economic and political structure. Th4tcherism, and Re4ganism came into effect, and changed the western world from a manufacturing economy to a financialized economy, and set the course for the way the world is today. While every successive government, and corporation, in the UK and US (at least) has continued the legacy of those aforementioned leaders, the culture back still hadn't been entirely devoured by it.
That wine reference is crazy on point.
I saw rumble fish on a random website for free if yk what I mean while painting my nails and then sewing on fabric mushrooms onto a jacket. Love Matt Dillon. Love Nick Cage. Love Rumble Fish.
Great film. It’s a shame The Outsiders receives far more attention.
Even if you don't count FTARH as his feature debut, Valley Girl was released 6 months before Rumble Fish in '83.
The Rumble Fish, The Rumble Fish.
The Rumble Fish, The Rumble Fish.
The Rumble Fish, The Rumble Fish.
One of my favourites
Good review of an excellent film. One issue is the pronunciation of Coppola which should be closer to the o in coke than the o in cot. A nitpick perhaps but accuracy on such things is part of due respect for the artist.
I was raised in the 70s and 80s...they were the best....and I can say the early 90s as well.
Surrealism meets Reagan America. It felt like the Outsiders should have been Rumble Fish. Not hatin'.
Nic Cage is a bit player on this film. He shouldn't be in the title. This is Matt Dillon and Mickey Rourke's movie.
The 80's were the best time to be a teen. Thank you God for letting me be born in 69!
Well, I saw it as a young teen in the 80s and thought, wow, now all films are going to be this good! I was wrong...
Dude. The picture you used for Ferris Bueller's Day Off suggests some transgressive subversion going on here. I'm a little disturbed by it, but I have to admire how subtle, yet shocking it is.
I've restarted it hundreds of times! a film that established my being as a teenager. Mickey Rourke at his best before selling his soul to Satan. This film is truly truly timeless!
It was a great book and the movie delivered big time.
Great video! Also, please do a video about Sophia Coppola!
Awesome video! You may not have many subscribers, your videos quality speak for themselves. Don't stop making videos!
Going with a theory that Steve isn't real is an interesting take on the story. I think it's pretty amazing that he essentially made two movies in a short amount of time with bleedover on some of the cast and crew. Very interesting!
I remember watching this in elementary school since we also read the book too
I WAS IN HIGH SCHOOL AND COLLEGE IN THE 80'S!!!!!
This is such a great movie.
Kids today... Amen !!! Philadelphia USA
this movie is spectacular but not everyone will know how to appreciate it
Nicholas Cage is in Valley Girl before Rumble Fish.
My favorite thing that's over looked, is rusty James scratching on the eight ball.... that's so significant
The most amazing part of this movie is the soundtrack. Copeland’s Magnum Opus
I don’t get why it’s so underrated
Black & White, and cerebral. Not a popular combination, sadly.
Probably because Warner released The Outsiders and gave a promotional push behind whereas Universal, who released Rumble Fish 7 or 8 months later, did very little promotion. If I remember correctly (I was a senior in high school at the time), Universal just dumped it.
@@M2Mil7er I wouldn't all it "cerebral". It was just slow, but not bad if you were in no hurry or under certain influences.
I was thinking something similar about Steve too
Great video, man. One of the best 80s movies period. So when are we getting that Sofia Coppola video?
My favourite movie of all time. The Motorcycle Boy is literally me
what scene you talked about hopper did a lot of takes?
Book even better omg
Very insightful, hey, can you answer my DMs? I wanna talk more about Coppola and cinema with you, you seem like the pro
Made in Dec 1988
'80s is my decade 😅
Helps when your uncle is the director!
Great video
The cop almost seems like a figment of their imagination. He appears out of nowhere. He’s the personification of some superego.
I was Today years old when I learned that S.E. Hinton was a woman. ...and Roman Polanski's victim was my classmate in 8th Grade. To be Honest, I didn't see Rumblefish in its theatrical run, but I picked up the Soundtrack because I was a fan of both The Police and Wall of Voodoo, and Stewart Copeland used Stan Ridgway for vocals. As soon as it became available for Video Rental, I saw it!.
Valley Girl was his first movie
Man, when is the next video??
Monday
Very underrated film does divert from book due to age of Rusty James however the film is very good
Underrated film!
only film I watched many times
Great film and in my top ten films of all time. This video is nice all around. A couple of inacuracies here and there, but the wrong pronunciation of Coppola's name is not forgivable!
The film is weirdly dark, too dark I'm afraid to re-watch it.
Good job.
Of course it is.
You assme a LOT! Anyway.. why title the clip as if it's a masterpiece because he's in it.. he has a very minor role. It' sa masterpiece alright but definitely NOT because of Cage in any way
Wings of Desire 👌🏽
Teenage art house! . This,was my eye candy as teenage girl. It had a nice style.But its not on the Waterfront.
wasnt he in valley girl too
Birdie was his first movie
Isn’t nic cage Coppola’s nephew
Its not Cah-pahla.It is Coe-Poe la. Co Po lla.
Fanfuckingtastic movie. 1983
Dumb title, Cage is far from being the lead in this
Micah Greeson dumb comment. Never implied he was the lead
@@TheKinoCorner why put him in the title?
@@mackereltacos2850 Watch the video and you'll find out.
I was alive. Little, but alive. 🙋🏻♂️😉
So everyone who watches your videos was born in the 90’s?
Hughes movies were monuments to inanity, non-allegorical, unironicly literal, non-translational; just tween angst for unimaginative in that age range of 12-14. Aside from a couple of Arnold sci-fi films, '80s films were an embarrassment. The artistic and critical usefulness of the movie industry ended in the '70s. '80s MUSIC, oth, was special.
Well that's just like your opinion man
Book was better but it was cool to see the young actors
Francis Ford Coppola is NOT an Italian... He was born in America.
No, he didn’t...!🤔 great point!👍
Lol I'm the 69th like
1:39 How can you love his movie and mispronounce his name? It's pronounced "CO"...like Like Coco. Not like "Cop"
I love rumble fish but bringing down breakfast club to praise it is not it
Rusty cage 😂
70's movies are superior