Uchimata, Hani Goshi, Harai Goshi How Are They Different & Why You Need To Learn All 3!

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  • Опубликовано: 22 дек 2024

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  • @kcwliew
    @kcwliew 4 года назад +21

    What you're doing spreading your knowledge like this is a great thing - I'm a BJJ player but becoming a complete grappler is my goal so thank you!

  • @eaglespiritlovecloud4729
    @eaglespiritlovecloud4729 4 года назад +10

    Great vid. Im a BJJ brown belt/ wrestler. They are so similar, it gets difficult to differentiate them. Its almost like how a single leg can have the same entry but there are like 30 different ways to finish depending on the angle, position of leg, etc...

    • @TravisStevensgrappling
      @TravisStevensgrappling  4 года назад +10

      That is a great way to put it! For judo like the grips are all the same but they are just different ways of finishing.

  • @konstantinos-antoniosbme-m6472
    @konstantinos-antoniosbme-m6472 4 года назад +6

    Mastering Osoto gari DVD! The best instructional dvd ever! I purchased yesterday, I recommend for everyone want trully to advance his game level!
    Nice work Travis🤙

    • @TravisStevensgrappling
      @TravisStevensgrappling  4 года назад +1

      Thanks Papadakis! I'm glad you like the Instructional. I remember my UKE was also blown away by all the little details in there.

    • @konstantinos-antoniosbme-m6472
      @konstantinos-antoniosbme-m6472 4 года назад +1

      @@TravisStevensgrappling this combination harai goshi to osoto gari how can I reverse it? I want to do it both ways!
      I wait to release uchimata mastering!🤙🤙🤙

  • @SasakiKojiro7
    @SasakiKojiro7 4 года назад +3

    Travis, just wanted to say thanks again for the video. I absolutely cannot wait for whenever you release the "Mastering Uchimata" dvd as I will definitely be snatching it up and studying it immediately.
    We have some incredibly talented former high performance competitors at my dojo specializing in uchimata who have been working with me on improving my own uchimata but I must say some days it can be a slow grind as I work to mold the throw into something that works for my body. Your videos and dvds and the details in them have therefore been an amazing resource to pair with my coach's and peer's knowledge so again, thank you and I look forward to your next video!

  • @Wickedywack
    @Wickedywack 4 года назад +3

    Nice, succinct breakdown of something that can be hard to find. A great resource!

  • @vittocrazi
    @vittocrazi 4 года назад +1

    this is crisp technique. i get it, its demonstration. but it was truly effortless yet very high impact.
    What they were meant to be.

  • @kamilbornova5384
    @kamilbornova5384 4 года назад +1

    As a hobby judoka you are my idol as a how much you can put in work.Of course I follow you as a judoka before these videos and THANK YOU.

    • @TravisStevensgrappling
      @TravisStevensgrappling  4 года назад

      Thanks Kamil! Thanks for all your support over the years it does not go unnoticed!

  • @MackTrainingAcademy
    @MackTrainingAcademy 8 месяцев назад

    Great breakdown. Love learning throws from someone with a jiu jitsu black belt.

  • @Kalernor
    @Kalernor 4 года назад +3

    Nice, good perspective at the end there too

  • @tarasbulba77
    @tarasbulba77 4 года назад +2

    I was really hoping for this video, tx Travis 👍🥋

  • @yassinesabki4863
    @yassinesabki4863 Год назад

    BONSOIR COACH LES TROIS EXERCICES SON EXCELLENT MERCI POUR VOTRE EXPLICATION BONNE COURAGE

  • @hiimmike_r
    @hiimmike_r 3 года назад

    thanks man, now I know the difference regarding hane-goshi.

  • @diynevala
    @diynevala 2 года назад +2

    Hi, it is keyboard warrior here. In Kodokan technique-videos the Uchi-mata attacks the OTHER leg (inner thigh), not the one that Hane-goshi attacks. This is confusing, having popular masters teaching throws differently from (dare I say) official ones.
    Obviously the main point is that Uke gets thrown, but I'd like some consistency.

    • @ryanwilliams9984
      @ryanwilliams9984 11 месяцев назад

      You're definitely right. Most high level guys (like Travis) tend to demonstrate uchi mata more like a Hane Goshi hip dominant throw. I don't know where this came from as one of my old instructors used to insist uchi mata was a hip throw and not ashiwaza.

    • @ryanwilliams9984
      @ryanwilliams9984 11 месяцев назад

      Alas, the important thing is you throw.

    • @diynevala
      @diynevala 11 месяцев назад

      @@ryanwilliams9984 Also, if you translate uchi = between, mata = crotch, it literally places the sweep between thighs. And yes, I have experienced "uchimata gone wrong", it is like a kick on the nuts...

  • @tomwalker389
    @tomwalker389 4 года назад +1

    Took me awhile, but I started to realize why Uchi Mata is the most popular amongst the three.
    You can pull it off from almost anywhere.

  • @DareToWonder
    @DareToWonder 3 года назад

    thank you Steven for the video

  • @robertoconstantinica1812
    @robertoconstantinica1812 3 года назад

    Very useful, but what about the difference between ashi guruma and harai goshi? The body contact?

  • @nathanjeromin863
    @nathanjeromin863 2 года назад

    We have had a judoka teach our bjj class some throws every Sunday. I was feeling good about the uchimata and the teacher even said "wow really good" (probably because it was my first time learning it). I tried explaining to my partner what I was doing and the coach came in and said "well what you're doing is actually hani goshi but that's okay because it looks good." So I came here trying to figure out like what is this difference. Thanks for this video!

  • @DPSBreakdowns
    @DPSBreakdowns 4 года назад

    Great stuff. Like the high level overview approach.

  • @EpiphanyMindChange
    @EpiphanyMindChange 10 месяцев назад +2

    1:24 I gotta kick outta watching this 😂😜

  • @nicocontreras5366
    @nicocontreras5366 4 года назад +3

    So true , sometimes I go for Uchimata and end getting Harai Goshi or Hane XD

  • @talalallamki7031
    @talalallamki7031 4 года назад +1

    Thanks! Is there any particular reason why Hane Goshi is used the least? Any particular "sub",applied, competitive versions of Hane Goshi?

    • @peanutbutler3078
      @peanutbutler3078 4 года назад +1

      I heard the kodokan created it as an extension of uchi mata meaning that it could have not existed and it is almost the same thing. You have so many uchi mata specialists out there. You can see it once in a blue moon which boils down to why hane goshi along with several other throws aren't seen; more time is invested in mainstream throws

    • @TravisStevensgrappling
      @TravisStevensgrappling  4 года назад +2

      I think it's because there are lot a lot of sub portions of the throw Hani Goshi. Where Uchimata and Harai all have sub throws. It begs the question is Hani Goshi just a sub throw of Uchimata?

    • @TheJoeMan
      @TheJoeMan 4 года назад +1

      @@TravisStevensgrappling I don't think so, no. Hip uchimata is a sub throw of the ashi waza version we see in kata. It infringes on hane goshi's territory, not the other way around.

    • @anarchic_ramblings
      @anarchic_ramblings 4 года назад

      @@TheJoeMan True. I think it's worth noting that when people say, for example, that Inoue's uchi-mata is hane goshi, they are looking at his nage-komi not his applied throws. In randori and shiai it is generally clear that he is doing uchi mata. I guess it comes down do how uke responds in a live situation.

    • @anarchic_ramblings
      @anarchic_ramblings 4 года назад

      @@peanutbutler3078 Where did you hear that? Sounds like BS to me.

  • @Joseph981000
    @Joseph981000 Год назад

    Just trying to add more tools to my toolbox. It’s frustrating trying to drill these moves when my coaches won’t let me because they specifically didn’t teach me themselves, but rarely go over anything new.

  • @bochan207
    @bochan207 4 года назад +29

    "Hane Goshi" sorry, just in case anyone cares...

    • @juyama7489
      @juyama7489 4 года назад

      was about to comment the same thing

    • @TravisStevensgrappling
      @TravisStevensgrappling  4 года назад +19

      You are 100% right!!! Thats what happens when I work to fast I miss the little things!

    • @diynevala
      @diynevala 2 года назад

      I agree with that romanization, but think about this: There is no correct way to write japanese words with latin script (our ABC's) because there are so many languages that pronounce those written words differently.
      BUT: it is definitely NOT pronounced Honey-goshi, but rather ha-neh-gosh-ee.
      Being Finnish definitely helps here. Finns pronounce every letter the same way, despite the context.

    • @EpiphanyMindChange
      @EpiphanyMindChange 10 месяцев назад

      @@diynevalanot gosh-ee, but rather go ご shee し

  • @m5a1stuart83
    @m5a1stuart83 4 года назад +4

    Harai n Uchimata my favorite. Easy to apply in street fight. Never miss it always Score.

  • @Alexsnakedoc
    @Alexsnakedoc 4 года назад +1

    Thank tou Travis, your videos are really helpful. Would you use uchi mata or harai goshi against a heavier opponent? Which one do you think is higher precentage?

    • @TravisStevensgrappling
      @TravisStevensgrappling  4 года назад +3

      I would use a Kan Kan Uchimata since I dont think I would be able to lift all the weight.

  • @Antimortem
    @Antimortem 3 года назад

    Good explanation 👍💐

  • @EpiphanyMindChange
    @EpiphanyMindChange 10 месяцев назад

    What about hane goshi?
    Is this what you mean by hani goshi?

  • @lucatraverso6891
    @lucatraverso6891 4 года назад

    They agreed are three important techniques in which a judoka should train a lot...... Ciao

  • @MaadLuck
    @MaadLuck 4 года назад +1

    Hey travis. what would you say would be good throws for someone like me. Im 5 7, small frame, and 120 lbs. I have a preference for wrestling takedoens but we cant do those in judo, so wanted to ask you for your thoughts

    • @martiallife4136
      @martiallife4136 4 года назад

      Tomo nage. Harai goshi just because of your weight to height ratio you'll be able to get that on someone your weight as they will probably be shorter than you. Other sacrifice throws like uki waza. If you're fast you can utilize foot sweeps. These all take time to develop and a lot of failed attempts. Though, the throws that you succeed the most at you should look at developing first.

    • @vittocrazi
      @vittocrazi 4 года назад

      de ashi barai and okuri ashi barai are lethal no matter the size. they are all about technique and timing.
      (im a noob, though. but drop seoi nage also works wonders when you are the shorter one)

    • @MaadLuck
      @MaadLuck 4 года назад

      @@vittocrazi there's no way in hell I'm dropping on concrete

  • @tomwalker389
    @tomwalker389 4 года назад

    Is the step in for Uchi Mata deeper than for that of Harai and Hane Goshi?

    • @TravisStevensgrappling
      @TravisStevensgrappling  4 года назад +1

      That is all dependent on UKE and the reaction you plan on getting.

    • @vittocrazi
      @vittocrazi 4 года назад

      you can catch an uchimata from pretty far and then finish the throw with hand motion and ken-ken, so it really depends.

  • @aymanabaza6475
    @aymanabaza6475 Год назад

    Good Judo

  • @jaehwan123
    @jaehwan123 4 года назад

    Travis,
    I think this info should definitely be included on the next DVD.
    Curiously, these three throws were the only ones that were completely lacking when I did judo. There were some throws I could do relatively well, some I could do not-so-well, but these three throws were just terrible. I probably had some issue (or issues) that created problems in all three. I think it may be a problem with my right hand's control of uke's head.
    Is the right hand supposed to be similar to koshi guruma? In all three, you're supposed to push uke's head DOWN at the end, correct? I had few problems with ogoshi, which leads me to think it was an issue with the right hand.

    • @TravisStevensgrappling
      @TravisStevensgrappling  4 года назад +2

      There two things that people tend to really mess up on when doing these throws. 1 - Hand placement and direction in which you pull. 2 - where their plant foot is in relation to their partner.
      If you focus on those two things you will see improvement. Ignore the rest.

    • @jaehwan123
      @jaehwan123 4 года назад

      @@TravisStevensgrappling Got it. Now that you mention it, I think both have given me quite a few issues, but #2 in particular has been a problem. I'm going to work on them with my son today. Thanks!

  • @shiryu0000
    @shiryu0000 6 месяцев назад

    I just learned that I’ve been calling Uchi mata to those 3 throws since I started bjj(9 years ago) 😂😂😂 but no one ever told me I was wrong 😢

  • @alloallo5418
    @alloallo5418 4 года назад

    Super

  • @tomwalker389
    @tomwalker389 4 года назад

    You can forget about Hane Goshi during randori or live situations if you have zero hip mobility.