Yah, it's so distracting, it ALMOST ruins the scene, but instead it just kind of adds to the funny. It also makes you realize that it really is a live audience and not an added laugh track.
+Cyborcat there's a laugh in series 8 which I found a bit noticeable too. It was Back in the Red part II when Kryten's head falls off during his medical. Actually I recall during the Tongue Tied sequence hearing this cackle too. Funny I've seen this show so many times I can identify some of the specific laughs in some episodes...
Thinking about it it is possible to explain the Kochanski retcon in universe: When Lister and Rimmer changed timeline in Timeslides, more than just Rimmer being alive got changed. In the new timeline, things were almost the same, but now, Lister used to have a relationship with Kochanski - and because he doesn't remember the original timeline, he doesn't know any different. This would also explain why he didn't go back in time 5 years later to marry her as stated in Stasis Leak.
The whole "dick pic" scene had me HOWLING as a kid, punching the couch especially at the "Taking photos and showing it to your mates" and "No appliance should ever give someone a double Polaroid!" lines. Also...I think the "How can the same smeg happen to the same guy twice?" is a DIRECT reference to Die Hard 2? DH2 was 1990, this was about the same time?
I do wonder how the series would have progressed had Kryten remained human. Imagine the ship therapist trying to analyse a human who insists he was a robot.
Exactly. It's a pity that so many people consider that to be some kind of massive continuity error when there's a such a simple and logical explanation. Too many people are too quick to dismiss things like that with "it's just a comedy/TV series etc." I hate that mentality.
+OxBigly2010 yeah I like to connect all continuity errors back to either Timeslides or the addition of KRYTEN, for example if Rimmer died later in his life it would make sense he would be a bit more updated as technology would have advanced by that point and with JMC finally sending them new stuff it would make sense light bee technology would come at some point and Rimmer not needing the Holocage in episodes like Backwards I link to KRYTEN projecting Rimmer when they are off Red Dwarf or Starbug/blue/white midget
I think the best shows do what this episode does perfectly; outlines a dichotomy and presents both sides without really telling you what to believe. Babylon 5 was great for that too. Also LOL I must've seen this episode 100 times and I never realised the shrinking bazookoid doesn't make sense! I also never considered the allegory for the class system because tbh it hasn't really gone away it's just fragmented and expanded. There's a greater difference between the wealthiest and the poorest, but now all of the non-elite classes have formed into a kinda smooth gradient. People who would have been lower-upper class often end up working closely with the working class, but there's no friction like there would have been in the past because most of us recognise that we're all in the same boat and none of us can compete with the ultra-wealthy elite.
I was at the filming of this episode. I think it was in 1990 or 91. With my boyfriend, now hubby, and best mate. I didn't have a clue about the show but loved it from then on. It was such fun.
I've seen these Red Dwarf episodes, I don't know how many times, and they never get old. Every show cracks me up. DNA's double Polaroid line makes me laugh so hard and especially that I now found out that they used a real picture of a penis as a practical joke on Craig Charles, LOL !
Lister has the confederate flag on his jacket, as it was seen as a flag of rebelion in the UK in the 70's and 80's (The Dukes of Hazzard was also a massive hit in the UK). It's only been the last 15 or so years that understanding of what it actually stands for has become more well known.
The whole "wine bar" thing is really funny nowadays because there actually is a very recent photo of Craig in a wine bar doing the rounds on all the meme pages.
Love your reviews. It's helping to get me into Red Dwarf again, and it's very entertaining. Always strange to hear Americans talk about British social classes like they are some kind of weird thing that only we have. You have essentially the same social classes, only with other names. Craig Charles is working class bordering on chav/council estate. You certainly have a huge working class even though most like to pretend they are middle class. Council Estate stereotypes in the UK would be very similar to what you might call Trailer Trash/Trailer Park/Low income etc. Then you have the Middle Class and you certainly have an Upper Class, that although not descended from aristocrats, certainly pass on their wealth, and are considered "Old Money". Can't understand how most Americans can't see it.
I actually said something similar when I covered Red Dwarf USA. BTW, in my experience, it's Brits who are always telling Americans we don't understand the class system.
@@Cyborcat Speaking as a Brit, I don't doubt my fellow countrymen could have said such things. We can be patronising, obfuscating arseholes, in the same way Americans can be overtly patriotic, confusing, ass holes. But basically we are all the same, and have the same hierarchy. The super-rich, the self made, the pompous old money types, the middle classes that feel both superior and inferior at the same time, the working classes who work hard but don't often get a fair deal, and the "underclass", who are either marginalised because they don't want to work or marginalised because they can't work. While there are subtle differences to every system, it's the same the world over. The strange thing to me is that Americans are equally obsessed with their social status, but they like to imagine that they don't have a class system, and that "all Men are created equal", which is clearly not the case, as much as I wish it was. Anyway, sorry for the yammering, I'm obviously bored because of lockdown. Wishing you well. Keep up the good work, and I hope you and your family and community are staying safe and healthy.
Ps. The wine bar joke is a reference to the 90s yuppies that were about then. The city guys making loadsa money. Everyone took the micky out of them in the 90s.
The British class system is something quite fascinating. Society is split into groups with them typically sticking with their own kind. Some attempt to ride higher, but it's a really difficult path. WELL, I mostly know about this from watching a British show called "Keeping Up Appearances", and I remember a local Polish TV magazine feeling the need to explain to the readers how Poland doesn't have anything like a "middle upper class" equivalent, and as such it may feel hard to get what all of these class struggles are about. OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT!
You know if you think about it red dwarf had a form of omnitrix in the case of the DNA machine it can turn you into any living thing you wanted to be and back again plus it's useful for medical purposes although it isn't as convenient or compact as the omnitrix so ben 10 gets the win in comparison.
Hilarious episode. BTW, Lister doesn't "sound funny", he has a distinct regional accent. 😆 Craig Charles is from Liverpool, same place as The Beatles. I think RD has the BEST titles, ever. Thanks for keeping it in your vid, and putting your different bits in it.
@@Cyborcat Absolutely, I know it was your humour and he can get a bit shrill. 😅 Sorry, I wasn't criticising, just saying. Craig Charles does a lot of DJ'ing on the radio now (he's fantastic and very knowledgeable), and his accent has got a lot softer (although, you can still tell he's a scouser), and his voice is deeper. He sounds and looks so young in the early RD years. Love your vids, BTW. I just found them a couple of weeks ago. RD was a favourite of mine when I was young. A lot of comedy doesn't age well, RD has aged very well and is still hilarious. I think it's the best British comedy I've ever seen. (If you discount series 7-9, sadly).
I love Red Dwarft and love these Vlogs. A minor nit-pick of my own on this one. For me as a Brit, Lister's normal voice isn't funny, it's a normal Brummie (Birmingham) accent. Oh, and if anything is a comment on social classes in Britain it's the relationship between Lister (working class) and Rimmer (middle class). Although maybe this episode could be seen as a comment on British attitudes about people who try to "better themselves".
The comment on Lister's voice is a bit of a callback to the video I did on "Queeg" where I mentioned that the way Lister says "pea" was funny to me for some reason.
Funny you mention that. Apparently when they started writing this show they asked Craig Charles if he felt Lister was a racist caricature, and I think he was okay with it. But you could see Rimmer as a racist character too: the uptight white guy with more teeth than brain cells who is only in command because he happens to be above the other guy, not for any kind of merit.
I hate this bloody episode. It's basically an argument against transgenderism, transhumanism, and self-determination. Lister never really addresses who or what it is that gets to decide what you are. If he did maybe his argument would be more understandable. If he were merely saying "To thine own self be true" then why didn't he say that? It's much easier to interpret it as a very conservative argument against free will and deciding your own destiny. Kryten becoming human wouldn't have had to go horribly wrong. Maybe it could have created something new and unique. Maybe the wanting to be something greater than yourself is the beginning of true greatness. Maybe it could be worth a god damn.
I agree the message hasn’t aged too well but I don’t think that’s what they were trying to discourage. I bet it didn’t even cross their mind because it wasn’t really talked about.
I loved seeing
Robert Llewellyn do the exaggerated Kryten facial expressions without the makeup.
Fun Fact: accord to the cast in the DVD commentary the title D.N.A. stands for "Do Not Alter"
I'm so glad you picked up the squeaky laugh. I thought I was the only person who picked that up. I actually found that funny...
Yah, it's so distracting, it ALMOST ruins the scene, but instead it just kind of adds to the funny. It also makes you realize that it really is a live audience and not an added laugh track.
+Cyborcat there's a laugh in series 8 which I found a bit noticeable too. It was Back in the Red part II when Kryten's head falls off during his medical. Actually I recall during the Tongue Tied sequence hearing this cackle too. Funny I've seen this show so many times I can identify some of the specific laughs in some episodes...
I've noticed it also (I've rewatch this show so so much) and once you notice it you can't unhear it.
There's a weird laugh in "Justice" too but Cyborcat is right in that it adds much to the authenticity. 👍
Thinking about it it is possible to explain the Kochanski retcon in universe: When Lister and Rimmer changed timeline in Timeslides, more than just Rimmer being alive got changed. In the new timeline, things were almost the same, but now, Lister used to have a relationship with Kochanski - and because he doesn't remember the original timeline, he doesn't know any different. This would also explain why he didn't go back in time 5 years later to marry her as stated in Stasis Leak.
You've cracked it mate. Genius!
Double Polaroid!!! 6:00 A great review of a great Red Dwarf episode. Well done.
I didn't even notice the squeaky laughter, I thought it was just sci-fi sound effects till you pointed it out.
This episode is the first time I noticed the Titan Hilton hotel blanket, now you see it with Lister quite a bit.
"I stole the whole room!"
The photo bit is my favorite scene in all of Red Dwarf, Lister's reactions are _priceless_ !
I leave this playlist on sometimes while I'm gaming.
The audience member with the squeak catches me off guard every time.
The whole "dick pic" scene had me HOWLING as a kid, punching the couch especially at the "Taking photos and showing it to your mates" and "No appliance should ever give someone a double Polaroid!" lines. Also...I think the "How can the same smeg happen to the same guy twice?" is a DIRECT reference to Die Hard 2? DH2 was 1990, this was about the same time?
I do wonder how the series would have progressed had Kryten remained human.
Imagine the ship therapist trying to analyse a human who insists he was a robot.
I personally link this episode to the reason Lister has his appendix back in Legion.
Exactly. It's a pity that so many people consider that to be some kind of massive continuity error when there's a such a simple and logical explanation. Too many people are too quick to dismiss things like that with "it's just a comedy/TV series etc." I hate that mentality.
Or the changes in Timeslides made him never need his Appendix out
+Mr Critical never thought about that one
+OxBigly2010 yeah I like to connect all continuity errors back to either Timeslides or the addition of KRYTEN, for example if Rimmer died later in his life it would make sense he would be a bit more updated as technology would have advanced by that point and with JMC finally sending them new stuff it would make sense light bee technology would come at some point and Rimmer not needing the Holocage in episodes like Backwards I link to KRYTEN projecting Rimmer when they are off Red Dwarf or Starbug/blue/white midget
I figured the discontinuity was a deliberate joke.
I think the best shows do what this episode does perfectly; outlines a dichotomy and presents both sides without really telling you what to believe. Babylon 5 was great for that too.
Also LOL I must've seen this episode 100 times and I never realised the shrinking bazookoid doesn't make sense!
I also never considered the allegory for the class system because tbh it hasn't really gone away it's just fragmented and expanded. There's a greater difference between the wealthiest and the poorest, but now all of the non-elite classes have formed into a kinda smooth gradient.
People who would have been lower-upper class often end up working closely with the working class, but there's no friction like there would have been in the past because most of us recognise that we're all in the same boat and none of us can compete with the ultra-wealthy elite.
I was at the filming of this episode. I think it was in 1990 or 91. With my boyfriend, now hubby, and best mate. I didn't have a clue about the show but loved it from then on. It was such fun.
That sounds awesome.
I've seen these Red Dwarf episodes, I don't know how many times, and they never get old. Every show cracks me up. DNA's double Polaroid line makes me laugh so hard and especially that I now found out that they used a real picture of a penis as a practical joke on Craig Charles, LOL !
Justice, the next episode, was my first Red Dwarf episode. I will share my thoughts about that when you get to it. Can't wait!
Lister has the confederate flag on his jacket, as it was seen as a flag of rebelion in the UK in the 70's and 80's (The Dukes of Hazzard was also a massive hit in the UK). It's only been the last 15 or so years that understanding of what it actually stands for has become more well known.
That’s really ironic for a man who’s half-black.
Makes the show Firefly a little more awkward to watch. Well, one of the reasons anyway.
This series of yours is so good :)
yup we have classes, its less spoken though but yeah you feel it XD
Awesome job on these little recap episodes...I'd like to see you interview the cast...by someone who loves the programme..keep up the good work 👏
Thanks, glad you like 'em ^.^
I always thought Kryten in human form looked like a member of Split Enz, especially in the suit.
11:35 “The things this guy can do with his face….” Yes, but what can he do with Alphabetty Spaghetti?
ALPHABETTY SPAGHETTI!!!
The whole "wine bar" thing is really funny nowadays because there actually is a very recent photo of Craig in a wine bar doing the rounds on all the meme pages.
I like to think that they managed to mess with time just enough to change past relation with Kerchanske.
I've heard of spicy food being potentially painful and hazardous, but this is bloody preposterous! Not that I'm complaining.
Considering that Kryten was made to serve humans, how does he not know how humans operate?
He is an older model that was supposed to have been replaced.
Love your reviews. It's helping to get me into Red Dwarf again, and it's very entertaining. Always strange to hear Americans talk about British social classes like they are some kind of weird thing that only we have. You have essentially the same social classes, only with other names. Craig Charles is working class bordering on chav/council estate. You certainly have a huge working class even though most like to pretend they are middle class. Council Estate stereotypes in the UK would be very similar to what you might call Trailer Trash/Trailer Park/Low income etc. Then you have the Middle Class and you certainly have an Upper Class, that although not descended from aristocrats, certainly pass on their wealth, and are considered "Old Money". Can't understand how most Americans can't see it.
I actually said something similar when I covered Red Dwarf USA. BTW, in my experience, it's Brits who are always telling Americans we don't understand the class system.
@@Cyborcat Speaking as a Brit, I don't doubt my fellow countrymen could have said such things. We can be patronising, obfuscating arseholes, in the same way Americans can be overtly patriotic, confusing, ass holes. But basically we are all the same, and have the same hierarchy. The super-rich, the self made, the pompous old money types, the middle classes that feel both superior and inferior at the same time, the working classes who work hard but don't often get a fair deal, and the "underclass", who are either marginalised because they don't want to work or marginalised because they can't work. While there are subtle differences to every system, it's the same the world over. The strange thing to me is that Americans are equally obsessed with their social status, but they like to imagine that they don't have a class system, and that "all Men are created equal", which is clearly not the case, as much as I wish it was. Anyway, sorry for the yammering, I'm obviously bored because of lockdown. Wishing you well. Keep up the good work, and I hope you and your family and community are staying safe and healthy.
Ps. The wine bar joke is a reference to the 90s yuppies that were about then. The city guys making loadsa money. Everyone took the micky out of them in the 90s.
Thanks. Either I forgot or maybe it wasn't a thing in the US.
this was actually suppose to be the finale and krysten was suppose to remain human it changed due to order of epsiodes changed
There was also a line where they tried to determine whether it was Rene Descartes or Popeye who said "I am what I am".
this episode's got your name written all over it
Almost, it's just missing the "E" =P
there is an invisible "E" in the letter "D" otherwise it would just be "d"
The British class system is something quite fascinating. Society is split into groups with them typically sticking with their own kind. Some attempt to ride higher, but it's a really difficult path.
WELL, I mostly know about this from watching a British show called "Keeping Up Appearances", and I remember a local Polish TV magazine feeling the need to explain to the readers how Poland doesn't have anything like a "middle upper class" equivalent, and as such it may feel hard to get what all of these class struggles are about. OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT!
***** Glad to hear that :) It does seem like a really outdated concept
More please!
You know if you think about it red dwarf had a form of omnitrix in the case of the DNA machine it can turn you into any living thing you wanted to be and back again plus it's useful for medical purposes although it isn't as convenient or compact as the omnitrix so ben 10 gets the win in comparison.
''shut your stupid flat head!'' ICONIC.
Hilarious episode.
BTW, Lister doesn't "sound funny", he has a distinct regional accent. 😆 Craig Charles is from Liverpool, same place as The Beatles.
I think RD has the BEST titles, ever. Thanks for keeping it in your vid, and putting your different bits in it.
"He sounds funny *to me*" is what I meant. Humor is subjective.
But glad you liked the video ^.^
@@Cyborcat Absolutely, I know it was your humour and he can get a bit shrill. 😅 Sorry, I wasn't criticising, just saying. Craig Charles does a lot of DJ'ing on the radio now (he's fantastic and very knowledgeable), and his accent has got a lot softer (although, you can still tell he's a scouser), and his voice is deeper. He sounds and looks so young in the early RD years.
Love your vids, BTW. I just found them a couple of weeks ago. RD was a favourite of mine when I was young. A lot of comedy doesn't age well, RD has aged very well and is still hilarious. I think it's the best British comedy I've ever seen. (If you discount series 7-9, sadly).
Lister + chicken = chicster
double polaroid ;)
early thanks.
I love Red Dwarft and love these Vlogs.
A minor nit-pick of my own on this one. For me as a Brit, Lister's normal voice isn't funny, it's a normal Brummie (Birmingham) accent. Oh, and if anything is a comment on social classes in Britain it's the relationship between Lister (working class) and Rimmer (middle class). Although maybe this episode could be seen as a comment on British attitudes about people who try to "better themselves".
The comment on Lister's voice is a bit of a callback to the video I did on "Queeg" where I mentioned that the way Lister says "pea" was funny to me for some reason.
sorry don't mean to nit pick but as a brummie i have to say that he's not he's a manc
lister is a scouser ....
Well Craig Charles certainly is so I suppose we can assume the same of Lister.
Funny you mention that.
Apparently when they started writing this show they asked Craig Charles if he felt Lister was a racist caricature, and I think he was okay with it.
But you could see Rimmer as a racist character too: the uptight white guy with more teeth than brain cells who is only in command because he happens to be above the other guy, not for any kind of merit.
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I hate this bloody episode. It's basically an argument against transgenderism, transhumanism, and self-determination. Lister never really addresses who or what it is that gets to decide what you are. If he did maybe his argument would be more understandable. If he were merely saying "To thine own self be true" then why didn't he say that? It's much easier to interpret it as a very conservative argument against free will and deciding your own destiny.
Kryten becoming human wouldn't have had to go horribly wrong. Maybe it could have created something new and unique. Maybe the wanting to be something greater than yourself is the beginning of true greatness. Maybe it could be worth a god damn.
I agree the message hasn’t aged too well but I don’t think that’s what they were trying to discourage. I bet it didn’t even cross their mind because it wasn’t really talked about.
Only today would people bring politics into a show like this...
Callinater politics wasn’t invented this year. I agree they’re overthinking this but people have been making everything political for ages.
Overanalysing much?
Spare head 3 is Joe Biden