What Happened When Anakin's Force Ghost FINALLY Met With Leia
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Luke was probably more like Padme; forgiving and compassionate. Padme had faith in Anakin until the very end. Leia was more like Anakin; a leader and warrior. Her anger was something she held onto like Vader held onto his.
I have ALWAYS concurred with that brilliant assessment. Bravo for your insight.
I personally don't see Leia as angry at all. If anything, I find her far more zen than Luke, who is impulsive and rash from the get-go.
@@heatherkillough-walden8760 Luke was said to have a lot of the same traits as Anakin. Yoda picked up on that, even considered training Leia over him.
Luke was more controlled over his emotions, but he had a lot of the same traits as his father.
I feel Luke and Leia exhibited traits from both Prime and Anakin. Luke and were both rash (see ROTJ where Leia impulsively jumped on the speeder). However, Luke and Leia also had the compassion of Padme. Even when Luke was rehabbing after losing his hand he didn't act out towards Vader. This was right after being told Vader was his father. Luke didn't even want to confront Vader while simultaneously explaining to Kenobi that there was still good in Vader.
Children can share traits from both parents. Everyone seems to think its an either or situation. You have Luke and Lisa's upbringing into account. Luke's rash news stems from the fact he was being held back from his uncle. Leia was raised like royalty in a loving family. I am not saying Luke wasn't lived but based on the novels, I get feeling it wasn't easy. This would switch if Luke was brought to Alderman and Leia to Tattoine.
I myself really feel sorry for Leia. At least Luke got to know his father through Obi Won before he met Vader, Leia only knew Vader she and her husband was tortured by Vader. She lost friends and family because of Vader. It's an up hill battle if you can forgive someone who tortured your significant other. I can't say if I could or couldn't forgive Vader for torturing my partner. All I can say is it would take years+ for me to even come close to accomplishing that. For those who say Leia was wrong for not forgiving Anakin. Plus she wasn't raised as a jedi, so saying this is part of the dark side in her is unfair because she doesn't know how jedi don't hold attachments. How many of you could forgive someone who tortured you significant other or even your child if you was Leia.
You can't be serious, feel sorry for Princess Leia. She grew up as Princess of an entire planet, Alderon. Luke had to grow up on a desert planet of Tatooien controlled by the Gangsters The Hutts and had a bunch of retarded races like the tuskon raiders.
@@shadow-reign2274 But i was going to Tosche station to pick up some power converters 😥😢😭
I feel for her too. There's a joke in one of the animated series about how there are very few women in Star Wars... "We should fix that next time," or something to that extent. Star Wars largely ignored women (specifically blondes for some reason? I noticed because I'm a blonde and I have been living in Star Wars since I was seven.) She was just - well - jipped. But later, it's clear that Lucas and Disney tried to remedy this by adding more women and actually giving them viable, story-turning roles. Not many blondes still... unless you count the ones whose blonde hair is covered up by silver First Order masks... but at least it's a step in the right direction. For what it's worth, Leia was trained as a Jedi according to the final movie, but gave it up to save her son and lead the rebellion. Still, I'm with you again - there's just not enough there for her. No connection. What strikes me as even more odd is that in Return of the Jedi, Luke asks her if she remembers her mother. Her reply is, "Just a little bit. She died when I was very young.... Just images really. Feelings.... She was... very beautiful. Kind... but sad." Obviously, Lucas hadn't yet decided that their mother would be Padme, much less that she would die in childbirth, and much much less that Anakin would be the one to off her - if it was him and not Palpatine. But she has memories of her nonetheless. So, why couldn't Lucas add something in later where she developed memories of Anakin as well? At the very least, she should have had "images and feelings" of his darkness, which would have backed up her not feeling close to him the way she did her mom. Honestly, I believe that Leia was stronger in the Force than Luke.
@@shadow-reign2274 Of course you can feel for Leia, sure she was rich and lived a life of luxury but to find out that everything bad that happened throughout the galaxy and to her parents and people, the rebellion, was all the result of her Father, Luke didn't witness as much as Leia did during the rebellion.
Yeah but the pressure was on Luke to destroy the Sith. Leia witnessed many deaths at the hands of the Empire but she also had the love of a wonderful family.
Luke was on a desert planet in the middle of nowhere. Luke was the one to first bear the burden of Vader being his father. It was Luke who was almost killed by his father. It was Luke who was both pawn and potential target of Palpatine. It was Luke who geared the weight of the entire galaxy on his shoulders. If Luke didn't convert Vader, the Rebel forces would have lost.
I can’t say that I blame her for wanting to hold resentment for the man who destroyed her world and tortured her and Han. I do think a reunion with them being Force Ghosts now could be a nice short story to wrap things up between the two.
Low key yea but u heard him she’s not strong enough in the force for a frequent visit🙁
Dude Tarkin destroy her world Vader was under his command don’t get it confuse.
@@imflabbergasted6554 they're both force ghosts so they should be strong enough to commune
In Legends, Leia eventually does reconcile with her father and she even named her youngest son after him, Anakin Solo
In Star Wars 6 return of jedi should be in the new dvd and bluray with the Padme Amidala Skywalker in force ghost like with Anakin Skywalker force ghost.
Vader: I am your father
Leia: Go take a dive in Mustafar
Star wars vi return of the jedi ghost of the Anakin Skywalker with the Padme Amidala Skywalker
Anakin: “Welcome my daughte-
Leia: “YOU OWE ME 18 YEARS OF CHILD SUPPORT!” 😡
If anybody says Obi-Wan lied to Luke then it will be proof that whoever says it did not watch the original trilogy as well as the prequel trilogy because in a way Obi-Wan was telling the truth about Anakin's death at the hands of Darth Vader.
In the bloodline novel, there you can also read about what it meant for Leia to be the daughter of Anakin /vader
You forgot 1 more thing Stupendous, Leia named her last son Anakin Solo after Anakin Skywalker in remembrance of what could have been. If any one wants to look at this story look at Dark Empire book 1 that's when Leia meets Anakin if I remember correctly if not in book 1 its in either in book 2 or 3 of Dark Empire.
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Got to admit I was wondering how that got left out as well. Though his story is tragic, I will always wonder what he could've become
Leia after the meeting: "THAT WAS SUCH A DISAPOINTMENT!!!!!" Anakin after meeting: "... so, ummm, i gues thats my "daughter"."
She went through true pain. Like waiting over a year that part 3 of what if qui Gon trained Anakin type of pain
I remember reading in one of the older novels which was set after the fall of the empire that Vaders force ghost visited Leia and she was angry with him inspite of him being changed and forgiven
I had no idea Anakins mother left a diary….just such a tragic situation
1:26 Well, as it turned out, he DID in fact make use out of a spice freighter during the Clone Wars. Just not to freight spice.
This was such a good video with such an in-depth look at their relationship yes thank you so much. I’ll give it an A+
Honestly in the behind the scenes with the force ghosts I can see a conversation between anakin , padmei and obi-wan , saying he should wait and give lia more time to process things but he just went anyway 😂
Remember Luke hated Vader too but learned the truth and felt the good remaining within Vader and after nearly killing him on the Death Star 2 watched as his faith in Anakin was rewarded as the former Sith lifted Sidious and threw him to his death.
I don’t care what cannon says Lea wasn’t a jedi lol
I miss Carrie Fisher but I'm really happy she was Lea as far as her dealing with her father as vadar at one point or another she would have to confront them demons eventually
Long story short- she was not happy
We need a series featuring the Nogri
There is a conflict between, who exactly was in charge of the Death Star in Episode IV. It was Grand Moff Tarkin who ORDERED Vader to STOP choking, that officer who literally spoke condescendingly to what Vader was saying. It was Tarkin, who ordered the Death Star to destroy Alderan. Vader, appeared only to be the liaison officer between the Emporer Palpatine and the fleet. Which would amount to being a Commander or Captain to an Admiral in the NAVY.
A big ol' fuck you to dear old dad. Makes sense. It's been a while since I read Truce at Bakura, but I think what she said was that one act of redemption at the end of his life didn't make up for the decades of tyranny he inflicted on the galaxy.
On top of the fact that he never had to pay in any way for any of the atrocities that he committed, even after death he was exalted. He was also responsible for Padme's death, which is tragic because they lost a very loving mother.
U do realize that when/if the time comes that Disney needs this exact moment to be presented on the screen- the things will be shown differently.
I think her forgiveness for Anakin should be what leads her to meeting his force ghost and begin her Jedi training in the new canon
yeah way better idea, would make a better story
That thumbnail isnt Lei but aight
Just happens to be her parents. Not saying those were leia and Vader/Anakin. Although it does imply heavily that those two are them. 🤦
@@matthewjones9237 Thumbnails are half the job of getting a video clicked on. Lets be real, its about the quality you expect from StupendousWave in 2021. Quality has gone down hill to the point that surprisingly SW Theory has surpassed him. And he has surprisingly gone up in quality. Never the less, there are still better SW channels that don’t include clickbait to get views
I wouldn't mind a whole movie or miniseries, without any or many other characters shoe horned in and without some big space battle adventure, where Leah makes that trip back to tatooine finding those diaries and finally forgiving Anakin.
Luke is a saint. Leia is what a realistic reaction would be. I’m for one glad that the new canon has her never reading some diary and suddenly forgiving him. It’s a cop out. Sometimes, your victims don’t forgive, and sometimes you have to just suck it up and deal with it. 🤷♀️
As the old saying goes: “God forgives… but I don’t! 😌”
Really cool, but what if anakin choose to become a grey jedi? Instead of the sith or a jedi high counsil member?
I learned how Leia felt about her father a long time ago.... I don't blame how she acted in the begining as pointed out all she knew was him a Vader and not Anakin...so it took her longer to learn of Ankin himself. and to forgive him
I don't know about anybody but Anakin Skywalker,Vader's crimes are unforgivable ! There's no way that he should be in the everything he did was wrong.
But she calls him vader so she knew it 😄. Vader is the dutch translantion of father.
Interesting! Not something I really thought about before.
That's from the extended universe audio books on RUclips.
I think it makes sense her reaction
She was really angry at Vader and could not separate the two her father and this monster
Unlike her brother
According to the Comic"book" Bible They had a Force Ghost Baby named BooBoo Fitt , True
great vids!! did Anikan ever show himself to Luke after or what about Kylo Ren?
Imagine anakin force ghost with all the jedi forces ghost he kill!
Anakin:"ah ummm sorry obi for killing you" " sorry windu for chopping your hands" sorry all you other jedi for order 66"
Why are you not providing sources for any of this?
*birth father who blew up her planet in front of her eyes, tortured both her and her partner, and "balanced the force" by murdering countless force users
It's tragic, but completely understandable.
Interesting... very ... interesting...indeed...
Star wars forever
Anyone else want a Leia backstory movie?? I want to see her Jedi journey! It was too short in Rise of Skywalker!
The Force is Strong on this one.
I would love to see a movie dedicated to this, however I don’t think Disney would be willing to.
Luke controlled his anger but had his father's traits
My question is...how did they know how Anikin was his father by the looks of him years before the movies they made like 30 years or more apart
Some marriage consulting
Ok so she could forgive Vader for destroying Alderan but god forbid he had Han Solo frozen in Carbonite?
I'm not sure if this was ever mentioned or not....but how did they find the right person to look like Anikin? reason I ask is the order the movies went in. If not a foretelling, 1 couple presented him when that force ghost scene happened...like a preminition
They had a party and making psycho cus he finally grasped what he did
It was 6 months not 2-3 years. Sheesh
force ghost anakin standing there at the end of the rotj smirking like that is way too creepy
Why is Padme in the thumbnail if it’s about Leia?
Star wars return of the Jedi Padme Amidala Skywalker is in her force ghost look good on her and better Padme Skywalker will be her force ghost in deleted scenes in the DVD or Blu-ray
Star wars Obi-Wan Kenobi season 2 is next to be in the tv of Padme Skywalker in her force ghost in the tv in 2023.
Vader didn't destroy Alderaan, Tarkin did.
return of the jedi and empire aint 3 years apart only 6 months to a year
It was a far better story than the BS crap Disney pulled with rewriting this just to create another trilogy for money.
Han & Leia never divorced. They had 3 children, Jacen, Jaina & Anakin.
Sounds like there was much fear in her. Much hate in her heart for a future Jedi.
Yes, that was a good video.
and as someone who watched the original back when it was new, I'm still unhappy they changed out the actors as Anakin's force ghost...they should have left him old as he was when he died...they left Kenobi and Yoda as they were when they passed on...it makes no sense and does disservice to the original actor.
Again, Adults using and abusing a Child for their own ambitions. Not one of them including Anakin thought to get his Mother out of Slavery. Then again he turned out to be a Child Killer so he got off lightly.
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Didn't Lea's daddy leave the family to sleep with Elizabeth Taylor? Probably explains that force ghost meetings tension.
Noh-GREE
Miss Carrie Fisher
Please go on about the Lady Vader" and thrawn"
Sounds like Leah has accepted the dark side
we didn't get to see Alderaan completely only a small part of it and there could have been more battle scenes in the complete trilogy someone get Disney to see reason .
Im a force ghost
I really, REALLY prefer the stuff from the Stars Wars EU to that of the new cannon.
He force choked her ghost.
I’m sorry, is this in legends, because I don’t really consider that cannon. However, I do hope Disney one day makes it canon
I MISS ANAKIN !
Damn this comments going to make me have to go back and read books but one of the books a funny little side note is the nagri and I think I spelled that wrong have a life that to Vader and that transfers over to Liea and I know I spelled that wrong too I'm in a hurry but they call her lady Vader which is funny the way she reacts
Then.
He went to hell for killing kids ????
Now everyone can become a force ghost 😒
did Leia ever meet her mother?
SHE BECAME THOR GIRL
Start wars is a beautyfull story because Luke Is the jeday!
Wait how did they prophesied that Hayden Christen was going to be the future Anakin they got hating Christians Force ghosts in a old movie
I think blowing up my planet is far less forgivable than torturing me and my lover. She seems to have it backwards here, but it is what it is.
Tarkin destroyed Alderaan, not Vader.
Leia are his daugther?
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Does Anakin's force ghost also not like sand?
Luke: "Leia will be so happy-"
Anakin: "I uhh... blew up her planet"
That was Tarkin ordering the gunners, not Vader.
@@johnquach8821 That is a reference to Star Wars Theory's what if video
That wasn’t Vader. That was Tarkin.
@@douglasfoley2060 No, but he did have Leia be tortured by a droid with a syringe.
@@dwnkaomwn3953 he didn’t know that was his daughter at the time. 😉😁👍
This is all from Legends?... oh yeah, its a well thought out plot, couldn't be current canon.
Yep, this is from Legends.
Yeah let's ignore 80% of the garbage from legends. Only good stories are the 4 old republic books, plaguies, bane trilogy. Heir to the empire trilogy, and Maul lockdown, and jedi quest series, shatterpoint and the best of all Revenge of the sith novel....cries.
Nevertheless no book Canon or legends comes even close to the brilliance and genius of the Canon thrawn trilogies book 1 - 6. Tbh no fiction book comes. I almost teared up last week when I finally finished book 6...it was so artistically done. Thrawn isn't a vill8an but a realist, after 6 books he still feels mysterious
@@armaniwebb4467 I don't give a shit bout the books, the lore and the awesome history of legends puts Disney nazi canon to shame😂
So sad, so true
Lol Ikr!
I was always hoping Luke and Leia would have found out more about their mother in movies, Maybe they did after the Empire was defeated. Maybe they went to Naboo and sought out their maternal family members. Maybe they even got to see images of Padme. Would've been nice to see that on screen.
I think according to Legends, Luke and Leia after the Empire was defeated did learn about their mother and connected with their first cousins on Nauboo. Luke learned and obviously told Leia of what Anakin did to Padme on Mustafar through a recording from R2D2. Luke visited his mother's tomb too. I think through Shmi's diary and other clues they found eventually gave them the full story.
Poor Palme was tossed aside after the prequels.
If we take return of the jedi at its face and kind of ignore the prequels for this leia knew padme
That scene in Episode VI, where Luke asked Leia if she knew HER mother, and all that was said, she WAS beautiful.
So that would mean, some time as Leia was growing up to adulthood in Alderan, the people she thought were her parents, either told her the truth about Padme, and/or showed her a picture, because she died in delivery; or Bail Antilles' wife was inferred to as THE MOTHER and was gone.
However, am a little confused about the Royalty angle, if Antilles was not a KING, and just a politician from Alderan, how did Leia become a PRINCESS?????
@@willhen50 breha, leias adopted mother was actually queen of alderaan and bail was appointed the senator.
Seems to me that Luke was more like Padme, forgiving and compassionate. Padme had faith in Anakin until the very end, and Luke was the only one in the original trilogy to feel the good in Anakin/Vader. Not even Vader himself felt it. Leia was more like Vader, a leader and a warrior. Like Vader, she held on to her anger and allowed it to fuel her. Remember also that when Anakin's force ghost appeared to Leia, she had no knowledge of who Anakin was before he became Vader. Unlike Luke who had stories from Obi Wan and Yoda, Leia knew nothing. All she knew was Vader.
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@Dani G80 Ik
True. I think they both have traits from both parents though
I think Leia at first meeting her father had a lot of anger for all his actions. I am glad eventually the diaries help her heal and see her father Anakin in a different light then just as Vader.
Maybe Anakin was quite like the incarnation of The Force itself. Jedi keep advicing "trust in The Force". Anakin had never had someone that actually believed in him, or trust him, except Padme and Shmi. So he attached deeply to her, so much that he almost lost his connection to the physical world when she turned away from him.
Watch carefully that the films change scenes between Anakin and Padme when Anakin is being reconstructed, when Padme whispers "there's good in him, I know there's, still..." then they show Vader rising from the operating table. It is like, his mere connection to the physical world was depending by Padme's faith in him. When her faith was crushed, so did Anakin's body and soul.
This faith towards him came back when Luke believed again in him, and TRUSTED him with his life. When Luke turned to his father saying "please" Anakin was restored. Somebody recognised him again, at last, somebody believed in him and trusted him.
It's really poetic if you see it. He cut off Windu's hand, and then he stood there, with no right hand as well, but at last righteous enough to do the right thing. He threw his darkness away, and with his darkness he ended the darkness in the universe, he brought balance.
"Tell your sister, you were right". Even with his last breath he reaches out for people to trust him. For his people to believe in him. I think that if Leia forgave him that time he was shown to her, he would be able to be with them in the physical realm whenever he wanted and whenever their children wanted. But, in the end, that was his punishment for the crimes he made. His daughter was so much like him that prevented him to be with the children he was so much deprived. And it was his fault.
"Vader didn't destroy her world, Tarkin did."
Guilty by association. And if you really wanna get techincal, the gunner blew up her home planet. A technicality doesn't sweep away Vader's involvement in the horrendous crime.
Ummm . Tarkin was SUBORDINATE to Vader , you realise ? The Buck stops with Vader therefore .
@@johncunningham4820 Tarkin was the highest authority on the Death Star. He was answerable directly to the emperor. Everyone in the conference room when Vader choked the officer was under the Grand Moff, which is why he was the only one that could resolve the conflict. Vader had more a supportive role. The senate was even still intact during a new hope, there were many in the empire that weren’t under Vader’s authority at that time. He didn’t hold the second highest position to the emperor, as he did by the time of arriving at the second Death Star in ROTJ
Vader was mainly there to enforce the Emperor's orders and crush any disloyalty, kind of like the old Soviet Zompolit.
Technically Vader works for Emperor Palatine so it's Palp's fault.
@@johncunningham4820 No. In fact Tarkin actually ordered Vader to release that imperial officer.
He failed to tell either of his kids about exegol or his wayfinder. Thanks you Sequels. :]
Tbf in Legends, Anakin never told anyone about Byss (Dark Empire) although in his defense, Byss was probably a secret even from Darth Vader.
@@johnquach8821 pretty much everyone in Legends and the authors of Legends ignored the existence of the Dark Empire comics though. So that comparison isn't really fair.
@@johnquach8821 True however the Sequels era material like the comics established that Anakin/Vader not only had a wayfinder but had a kiju battle with Palpatine on Exegol. He saw the final order under construction with his own eyes. To cap this off, the sequels gave the force ghosts tons of power like being able to summon lightning, interact with the worldly objects, and use the force.
Lando did say he and Luke did try to find Exegol, so it's possible that Anakin did tell Luke about it. I just wish it wasn't off screen.
A sympathetic villian, becomes an utterly unlikeable child killer. Thanks yous Prequels.
Um please correct me if I'm wrong but wasn't it Tarkin, and not Vader, who gave the order to destroy Alderann?
Yea but Vader stood their and said nothing to stop it. Vader could have told Tarkin to stop, Vader has the same authority as the Emperor.
Also vader hunted her, her friends and the rebellion for years, had the man she loved froze in carbonite INFRONT of her, and literally tortured her to give up the rebel base. So Alderaan isn’t his only slight against her really.
Vader had a very weird placement within the Imperial military. the emperors represenative and hand on dealing with discent, an aid in defeating the empires enemies. Specifically noted is that the grand moff tarkin was the one man in the entire Imperial structure that Vader could not kill by the emperor's order, and I got the impression that unless the emperor notes otherwise, tarkin had the say on military choices like this. not saying vader couldn't have objected, but other than showing disagreement in the emperial high command to a rebel leader, what good would it have done?
I remember reading the Thrawn-trilogy when I was much younger. Leia was indeed called 'Lady Vader' multiple times even though she pretty much hated the name and title. She still used it to her advantage and helped the noghri people to realize and understand the Empire had decieved them all along. That also had a major role in Thrawn's ultimate demise.
How is blowing up an entire planet less evil than freezing Han?
I said the same thing😂😂😂
Except... did Vader actually do that? Wasn't it Tarkin who did that? And in fact, when Tarkin wanted Leia executed, didn't Vader begin coming up with excuses to keep her alive?
@@heatherkillough-walden8760 ok but he didn’t make any move to stop Tarkin so Vader doesn’t get let off the hook. also he held Leia back and basically forced her to watch the planet being blown up. so yea…Vader isn’t innocent in that regard. Also I’m sure Vader didn’t keep her alive bc he like her lol he probably just needed her for one of his plans or something or to avoid upsetting the citizens of the galaxy or something.
@@heatherkillough-walden8760 Exept, it wasn’t Tarkin, it was the guy who pulled the lever to fire the canon smh
@lauren1211 takin got more rank then vader even in the comics palpatine tells vader that hes just a tool even his body guard got more rank then vader ppl fail to realized that vader is more of an assassin similar to a contract killer ,that hes useful but aint got no said so vader is like a better pawn
Huh???.....Vader wasn’t responsible for alderaan.........Tarkin was..........
I agree
Inherently, a fair point.
One could say Vader contributed as far as being with the side collectively responsible for Alderaan's destruction though.
This.
@@davidcatlett4052 I mean he was present........but it wasn’t his plan.........
@@douglasfoley2060 It might be an interesting thing as far as if Vader had survived and put through some sort of war crimes tribunal by the New Republic.
Vader did make other decisions that could be seen as being just as murderous and tyrannical even though they would not be on the shocking scale of planet wide destruction.
I've always imagined what might happen if something happened to Luke and Leia had to confront Vader. I think Leia, who grew up with a father, who was in the Rebellion from the beginning, and who had a temper much like Anakin's, would have completed her training with Yoda, and wouldn't have hesitated to go to the Dark Side and kill Vader. However, I never see her joining the Emperor, especially once she learned that he was pulling Vader's strings. It's likely he would have killed her. So, I understand her reaction to Anakin's Force Ghost. Understanding who Anakin was gives her a completely different perspective of Vader. It's too bad that Anakin never saw Shmi's diary.