Nothing, but admiration for both fellows... Very competitive and fun match. Both are in great shape. Thanks Mike, I Iove watching the senior tennis....
Having played competitively for 56 years, I'm very familiar with what ailed Mr. Hagerstraw. It's called a lack of focus. The book 'Inner Tennis' teaches you not to judge each shot as good or bad, you just play the next point. I think he dwelled on his shots taking him out of the present. Pure speculation of course. Great tennis video. Thanks Mike.
Yes, they certainly are. If you can stay healthy, you can be like these guys when you get older. Or are they healthy because they play? Either way, gotta hand it to them.
Might just add note Hagershaw absolutely perfect footwork, flawless service motion - looks like he's ready to play another 75 years. We never stop improving at the fundamentals. A delight to watch - I'm 61
Yes, I"m 74 and still working on everything...Hope I can move as well when I hit the 75's. A lot of the game is having strong legs and staying healthy!
Yes I agree with comments below Hagershaw really should have got home in the third set pretty comfortably - but I think Bachmann short balls wore him down. Those drop shots eventually had Hagershaw standing ten feet plus inside the base line, falling into the trap of playing two players at once - the short one and the deep one. Wind up beating neither of them if you know what I mean! Sure enough he loses rhythm on his forehand and starts pushing a whole bunch out and suddenly Bachmann is serving for it. Great tactical victory - I'm taking nothing away from Bachmann. Absolutely top tennis, I will subscribe thanks again Mike
Im 35 and just starting playing tennis. Its pretty fun, skill focused, not to mention a social distancing sport. Ive played football, basketball, baseball all my life. Seeing these gentlemen still hit at 75 gives me much to look forward to.
Definitely! Playing all those sports probably means you'll be very successful. Take a few lessons every year to avoid bad habits is my advice though. Don't try and do it on your own or you could easily come up with bad habits that will limit how far you can go. Good luck!
Yeah, the 3rd set was crazy. That's what you call snatching defeat from the jaws of victory. Hagershaw figured out Bachmann's game early, worked him side to side, established great court position and found the open court repeatedly. It looked like it was over. Then maybe Hagershaw got tight or overly conservative, I don't know, but he began to play more defensively, make careless errors and hit too many rally type balls instead of pressuring Bachmann and running him side to side to set up court position. the neutral balls just played into Bachmann's strength. Just my two cents. Fun match to watch.
To me, the beginning of the end for Hagershaw was at 4-2 in the 3rd set. He was serving to go up 5-2 and had a game point. During this game, he makes three unforced errors and double-faults on the last point. We begin to see Bachmann start to use the slice backhand drop shot. He nets several, but it is a shot he will go back to and win several points with from here on in. I don't think this 'yo-yo' style that someone mentioned (bringing Hagershaw up and then moving him back) was the undoing of Hagershaw. It simply appeared he made a few too many mistakes - unforced errors. He moved SO well. Goodness, he has terrific footwork. Bachmann, by contrast, hardly seemed to move much at all, unless he was chasing down a shot. And that was another key to his victory. He made some outstanding shots on the run (including a spectacular cross-court forehand in game 7 of the 3rd set. During the final three games, Hagershaw continued to make unforced errors and Bachmann came up with big shots and dropped a few of those slice backhands in. This was really good tennis! Thank you for sharing.
Huh? Are we watching the same match? I see a lot of topspin shots - not heavy topspin if that's what you're talking about. These guys are the best in the country, and you want to teach them something??
They play absolutely great for their age, but still - with all due respect - I wouldnt enjoy this kind of tennis anymore. Every short ball is a winner, every angle is a winner, its all slicing and pushing inside of a rather small radius. I will definitely play golf at that age, cause I could not stand to play like this.
Wow, that's pretty harsh. Not sure if you play tennis, but when you're 75 I think you will change your mind about them. Just to be able to compete as physically as they do is admirable. And yes they use the technique that was taught in the era when they grew up. It's hard to change a lifetime of learning and probably not worth it at this stage. Go with what you know and trust in a big match.
I'm 70 & have gone through 3 generations on my forehand technique. You can improve technique at any stage of your life! I know these type of players that only play matches with their only concern is winning the point & not caring about their technique! Yes give them credit for playing but they are HACKERS at the end of the day!@@10smike
Nonsense! I learn to play in the late 60's and have adapted to the different techniques on the FH, BH & serve! My FH is on its 3rd generation with wrist lag. I'm approaching 70 & still play 4/5 times a week still tweaking parts of my game. I may be harsh but I'm telling the truth!! Props to them for running around at their age but it's ugly tennis!!@@10smike
Tried to look up your record but you don't play tournaments or leagues, apparently. I can hit big topspin off both sides in practice, but that doesn't mean it's tournament worthy. Is your game "tournament tough"? Regardless, I think their tennis is spot on for their ages and not ugly at all.@@quentincrisp6933
Heh. I mean, your technique doesn't make use of current racquet technology to generate "modern" spin. That said, you'd still kill me with your fundamentals and consistency.
Ah - well said. You would think that these guys, who are great athletes, could adapt, wouldn't you? For myself, I learned with a wooden racquet, but when I try to play modern it's just not the same as these kids. Maybe having a 20 yr old flexible body is more of the key, not so juch the racquet? Muscles that stretch and then snap back like a rubber band must help a lot!
What exactly are you referring to? No, they don't hit like young guys, but they play like they did when they grew up mostly. Their technique is perfect for how they learned.
Age will diminish your "technicals" because the body will never respond as it used to, but if you look at the finish of their shots, it is almost always true. The footwork can never be the same as that if a 25 year old, but stroke efficiency is still there. Yes, they look awkward compared to a young player, but the strokes still work.
As a 62 year old limping around the court, I have nothing but admiration seeing this match. Great movement and great tennis from both gentlemen.
Yeah, good genes will take you a long way!
Something to look forward to when I am 75.
Yes! I would hope to move as well also!
Nothing, but admiration for both fellows... Very competitive and fun match. Both are in great shape. Thanks Mike, I Iove watching the senior tennis....
Totally agree. We should all be in such shape at 75. The new 50?
Having played competitively for 56 years, I'm very familiar with what ailed Mr. Hagerstraw. It's called a lack of focus. The book 'Inner Tennis' teaches you not to judge each shot as good or bad, you just play the next point. I think he dwelled on his shots taking him out of the present. Pure speculation of course. Great tennis video. Thanks Mike.
I've noticed a lot of lefties in the finals of different age brackets.
great match Lefty has wicked backhand drop shot
I gotta give credit for a 75 year old they pretty quick for their age
Yes, they certainly are. If you can stay healthy, you can be like these guys when you get older. Or are they healthy because they play? Either way, gotta hand it to them.
If you take care of yourself, you could still be doing pretty good out there on the tennis court at 75 and over. Impressive.
Might just add note Hagershaw absolutely perfect footwork, flawless service motion - looks like he's ready to play another 75 years. We never stop improving at the fundamentals. A delight to watch - I'm 61
Yes, I"m 74 and still working on everything...Hope I can move as well when I hit the 75's. A lot of the game is having strong legs and staying healthy!
Yes I agree with comments below Hagershaw really should have got home in the third set pretty comfortably - but I think Bachmann short balls wore him down. Those drop shots eventually had Hagershaw standing ten feet plus inside the base line, falling into the trap of playing two players at once - the short one and the deep one. Wind up beating neither of them if you know what I mean! Sure enough he loses rhythm on his forehand and starts pushing a whole bunch out and suddenly Bachmann is serving for it. Great tactical victory - I'm taking nothing away from Bachmann. Absolutely top tennis, I will subscribe thanks again Mike
Nice observations, thanks!
Im 35 and just starting playing tennis. Its pretty fun, skill focused, not to mention a social distancing sport. Ive played football, basketball, baseball all my life. Seeing these gentlemen still hit at 75 gives me much to look forward to.
Definitely! Playing all those sports probably means you'll be very successful. Take a few lessons every year to avoid bad habits is my advice though. Don't try and do it on your own or you could easily come up with bad habits that will limit how far you can go. Good luck!
Yeah, the 3rd set was crazy. That's what you call snatching defeat from the jaws of victory. Hagershaw figured out Bachmann's game early, worked him side to side, established great court position and found the open court repeatedly. It looked like it was over. Then maybe Hagershaw got tight or overly conservative, I don't know, but he began to play more defensively, make careless errors and hit too many rally type balls instead of pressuring Bachmann and running him side to side to set up court position. the neutral balls just played into Bachmann's strength. Just my two cents. Fun match to watch.
I agree - an age old story, and why you never give up!
Mr. Bachmann reminds me a lot of the Most Exhausting Player from the Tennis Troll channel.
Great description. He's a great player.
To me, the beginning of the end for Hagershaw was at 4-2 in the 3rd set. He was serving to go up 5-2 and had a game point. During this game, he makes three unforced errors and double-faults on the last point. We begin to see Bachmann start to use the slice backhand drop shot. He nets several, but it is a shot he will go back to and win several points with from here on in. I don't think this 'yo-yo' style that someone mentioned (bringing Hagershaw up and then moving him back) was the undoing of Hagershaw. It simply appeared he made a few too many mistakes - unforced errors. He moved SO well. Goodness, he has terrific footwork. Bachmann, by contrast, hardly seemed to move much at all, unless he was chasing down a shot. And that was another key to his victory. He made some outstanding shots on the run (including a spectacular cross-court forehand in game 7 of the 3rd set. During the final three games, Hagershaw continued to make unforced errors and Bachmann came up with big shots and dropped a few of those slice backhands in. This was really good tennis! Thank you for sharing.
Great match!
Yes, it's one of my favorite matches. Thanks for watching!
Good job gentlemen
amazing...
Slices must be a pain to get at this age
Best exercise for whole body and mind!
Totally agree. Not as good as "chess-boxing" but a close second.
I like the line from the couple in the crowd, that says, “ Did you remember to bring your meds?”, which sounds exactly like me and my wife.”
I guess that's senior tennis for you!
The guy on white shirt got a youtube channel right?
Beats me, what makes you say that?
Mike Lammens, i thought this is Tom Avery.
No, it's not Avery.
I am 43 and I dont play singles. At 75 i would probably only play checkers sitting in a wheelchair.
In other words, these guys are amazing to be playing this level at 75. They are in great shape!
Somebody teach these boys to hit some topspin...
Huh? Are we watching the same match? I see a lot of topspin shots - not heavy topspin if that's what you're talking about. These guys are the best in the country, and you want to teach them something??
I´m a 29 year old scared of aging, its not just the youtube algorithm.
They play absolutely great for their age, but still - with all due respect - I wouldnt enjoy this kind of tennis anymore.
Every short ball is a winner, every angle is a winner, its all slicing and pushing inside of a rather small radius. I will definitely play golf at that age, cause I could not stand to play like this.
Well, it's still a lot of fun and sure better for you than golf!
Neither of these guys have any proper technique! This is what happens when you just play matches and never practiced any technique! HACKERS!
Wow, that's pretty harsh. Not sure if you play tennis, but when you're 75 I think you will change your mind about them. Just to be able to compete as physically as they do is admirable. And yes they use the technique that was taught in the era when they grew up. It's hard to change a lifetime of learning and probably not worth it at this stage. Go with what you know and trust in a big match.
I'm 70 & have gone through 3 generations on my forehand technique. You can improve technique at any stage of your life! I know these type of players that only play matches with their only concern is winning the point & not caring about their technique! Yes give them credit for playing but they are HACKERS at the end of the day!@@10smike
These guys came up before Jimmy Conners and his technique is obsolete today. What does Ron White say?
Nonsense! I learn to play in the late 60's and have adapted to the different techniques on the FH, BH & serve! My FH is on its 3rd generation with wrist lag. I'm approaching 70 & still play 4/5 times a week still tweaking parts of my game. I may be harsh but I'm telling the truth!! Props to them for running around at their age but it's ugly tennis!!@@10smike
Tried to look up your record but you don't play tournaments or leagues, apparently. I can hit big topspin off both sides in practice, but that doesn't mean it's tournament worthy. Is your game "tournament tough"? Regardless, I think their tennis is spot on for their ages and not ugly at all.@@quentincrisp6933
I wonder if these fellows are aware they're not using wooden racquets. They play like Bobby Riggs.
Not sure what you mean about the racquets, but if someone said I played like Bobby Riggs, I'd consider that a compliment! :)
Heh. I mean, your technique doesn't make use of current racquet technology to generate "modern" spin. That said, you'd still kill me with your fundamentals and consistency.
Ah - well said. You would think that these guys, who are great athletes, could adapt, wouldn't you? For myself, I learned with a wooden racquet, but when I try to play modern it's just not the same as these kids. Maybe having a 20 yr old flexible body is more of the key, not so juch the racquet? Muscles that stretch and then snap back like a rubber band must help a lot!
I guess we'll know for sure in 40 or so years!
Based on the condition of my recent forebears and my current physical condition, color me more than a little bit optimistic.
Why is their technique so bad though? age doesn't diminish your technicals... only your athleticism
What exactly are you referring to? No, they don't hit like young guys, but they play like they did when they grew up mostly. Their technique is perfect for how they learned.
Age will diminish your "technicals" because the body will never respond as it used to, but if you look at the finish of their shots, it is almost always true. The footwork can never be the same as that if a 25 year old, but stroke efficiency is still there. Yes, they look awkward compared to a young player, but the strokes still work.