GMRS radio #3, talking/etiquette

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  • Опубликовано: 22 ноя 2024

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  • @tallyforeman3145
    @tallyforeman3145 4 месяца назад +15

    I'm brand, brand new to GMRS. Received my license earlier this morning and radios coming today. This was super helpful. Appreciate it!

    • @skye1212
      @skye1212 3 месяца назад

      Me too. Deciding on my first radios.

    • @tallyforeman3145
      @tallyforeman3145 3 месяца назад +1

      @@skye1212 I went with a Tidradio TD-H3. Been pretty happy with it so far.

  • @4acae86
    @4acae86 5 дней назад +2

    I just got a GMRS license and am coming from the ham world. I didn’t really listen to GMRS until I got the new radios and boy do these people out there ignore any rules. 😂 jamming, cursing and playing music. I really only got these for emergency communication with my wife so they will do the job, but just thought it was hilarious when the first thing I hear is a bunch of cursing.

    • @kobblekraftka0kao29
      @kobblekraftka0kao29  5 дней назад

      @@4acae86 yeah it's interesting though how that varies from location to location. I think CB has heavy influence in some places. In our location the crowd who started the GMRS "fad" (myself included) influence how the band is used. We find very little of that course stuff here in Dubuque.

  • @buckeyeblaster
    @buckeyeblaster 9 месяцев назад +6

    Great video! Very helpful to us new GMRS users.

  • @JimJimmington-e8i
    @JimJimmington-e8i 4 месяца назад +6

    This is a good video for new GMRS operators. Heck, it's even good for new ham operators.

  • @Archtops
    @Archtops 8 месяцев назад +2

    Excellent tips on how to handle the conversations.
    Thank you!
    Liked and Subbed.

  • @mypointofblue5260
    @mypointofblue5260 10 месяцев назад +12

    Thanks for sharing! I actually was wondering what a repeater was. :) I’m super brand new to gmrs. Just got my frn and call sign this week and looking forward to learning!

    • @zeroUnitygain
      @zeroUnitygain 2 месяца назад +1

      How long did that email take? So far it’s been a few hours

    • @mypointofblue5260
      @mypointofblue5260 2 месяца назад +1

      @@zeroUnitygain I think a day or so. Can’t remember if it was over the weekend or not

  • @kylexadam
    @kylexadam Год назад +16

    Give us a #4 this is incredibly insightful to aspiring radio operators. Im curious how many young people these videos inspire. Thank you sir.

    • @kobblekraftka0kao29
      @kobblekraftka0kao29  Год назад

      Thanks very much for the kind words.
      What would you like to see in a #4?

    • @kobblekraftka0kao29
      @kobblekraftka0kao29  Год назад +4

      I added #4 today, please let me knowbif it was helpful.

    • @jremy89
      @jremy89 9 месяцев назад

      If 33 is oyung then you can count me

    • @zacharyharrison2259
      @zacharyharrison2259 Месяц назад +1

      25 years old, GMRS license at 24. Going for Amateur Technician Class this week! Got into the hobby at 10 years old when I asked my neighbor why he had a "cell phone" tower In his backyard haha

  • @dad7087
    @dad7087 24 дня назад +1

    Im completely new to GMRS, I just got my license and my callsign this morning. The repeater owner was doing a scan and I stuttered while doing my callsign 😂

    • @kobblekraftka0kao29
      @kobblekraftka0kao29  23 дня назад

      @@dad7087 good for you!! Stutter or not, you pushed that PTT!! It all gets easier after that. 🤠👍

  • @jameshutson8431
    @jameshutson8431 4 месяца назад +3

    I’m learning a lot from your videos, still waiting on my gm15 pro to arrive

  • @chuckdavis1323
    @chuckdavis1323 Месяц назад +2

    Great video

  • @donwatkins9769
    @donwatkins9769 2 года назад +4

    Good information.
    Waiting for part 4! would love to see a new radio unboxed, frequency put in and proper way to contact someone.

    • @kobblekraftka0kao29
      @kobblekraftka0kao29  2 года назад +3

      Thanks Don!
      I pretty much just talk about basics, i have a lot of friends who buy a radio but are intimidated to get on the air because they deel they need to know more, so i do thesevlittle videos to show a few basics and help them feel some confidence to get started.
      But i agree, a good unboxing can help a lot, there are plenty out there by other youtubers and I'd encourage you to enjoy them. Have fun with your radios! 🤠👍

  • @Baumeister40
    @Baumeister40 2 года назад +3

    I sure like that hat. Thanks for sharing! WRTL443

    • @kobblekraftka0kao29
      @kobblekraftka0kao29  Год назад +1

      Thanks Michael!
      The hat has been around a long time, a lot of close friends don't even recognize me without it 🤣😂

  • @flierbill
    @flierbill Год назад +1

    I'm learning , thanks !

  • @mikehernandez5878
    @mikehernandez5878 2 года назад +2

    This will be wrkt 518 and I'll be on the listen

  • @cmercado317
    @cmercado317 2 года назад +2

    THANK YOU

  • @dougbotimer8005
    @dougbotimer8005 2 года назад +5

    Appreciate the comments. On air etiquette exists for the same reason as rules of the road exist on highways, to prevent collision. I saw CB devolve from a very useful communication tool into chaos, because common on air courtesy was thrown out the window. That is why Hams, who invest time and money to use our bands, so jealousy enforce on air etiquette. It isn’t, for most hams, because we think we are better than other radio services. It is because we want our radio service to remain useful, just like public service or military or business radio services.

    • @kobblekraftka0kao29
      @kobblekraftka0kao29  2 года назад +2

      Well-said!!

    • @Thatsmisteroldguytou
      @Thatsmisteroldguytou 2 года назад +2

      Sounds about right.

    • @minarchisttrucker2775
      @minarchisttrucker2775 2 года назад +1

      As a radio enthusiast and truck driver I will admit there are times I do turn down or off the radio but there's been many times it still has been valuable to me even with the more degenerate users.

  • @jfrphoto01
    @jfrphoto01 2 года назад +7

    Sadly, in my area, GMRS has started to devolve to the level of 11 meter CB. More and more you hear people bragging about their modified ham gear running 1000+ watts, foul language and noise toys.

    • @kobblekraftka0kao29
      @kobblekraftka0kao29  2 года назад +4

      Thanks for that input! Ive seen a bit of that in some places, especially where there are a lot of users.it seems they drop their social media keyboards and push a PTT instead, but with the same rude mentality.
      Stay on it, be kind but potent about how folks should behave on air.
      Keep on!

    • @minarchisttrucker2775
      @minarchisttrucker2775 2 года назад +3

      I haven't really had that experience. I mean most people I know most gmrs users have modified ham radios but most of them I've seen still try to follow power rules and such.
      A lot of the useage of ham gear I've seen is is from ham operators that just don't want to run 3 radios in their vehicle or people who plan on getting into ham and want to dip their toes in and have a radio they can use for ham once they get their license.

    • @thomast8539
      @thomast8539 Месяц назад

      what is a noise toy? leaf blower? side x side? pew pew sending device? or just more electronics?

  • @lynnamacaibay1161
    @lynnamacaibay1161 Год назад +2

    Could I start off the conversation with, “Amanda, do you copy?” As a way to initially call for someone on radio?

    • @kobblekraftka0kao29
      @kobblekraftka0kao29  Год назад +4

      Actually YES, if its part of an extended transmission... the general rule is that you must identify yourself by transmitting your GMRS call-sign at the END of your transmission or every 15 minutes.
      So if you call out "hey Amanda?" then walk away for an hour you have broken the rule. But if you do this a time or two a few minutes apart you probably have not broken the rule, and just to be safe add your call sign at the end of one of those calls.
      Generally, use your call sign to ID regularly and all will be good. But then i have not heard of any FCC "cops" breaking down doors to arrest offenders, it doesnt work that way. They get involved if someone tells them about an offense. They send warning letters and stuff, fines are only applied when station refuse to comply... but then, with the present administration who knows!? Unelected officials are soing all kinds of unexpected things these days, but i suspect GMRS radio users are low-priority, at least until they're not 😉🤠.
      www.ecfr.gov/current/title-47/section-95.1751

  • @BakerBaker1-9
    @BakerBaker1-9 Год назад

    Thanks 👍

  • @424scout
    @424scout Год назад +3

    So here's my question, I got my gmrs for my family to use so we all can talk while we go on hikes or hunting, if we all are using it under the same call sign, how do we start that contact

    • @kobblekraftka0kao29
      @kobblekraftka0kao29  Год назад +5

      You can stay informal, just use names or "handles". But per fcc guidelines be sure to identify every fifteen minutes with your call sign, and when you end the shared contact (anyone in the fam can do that task)

    • @i.r.oldairborneviking2823
      @i.r.oldairborneviking2823 3 месяца назад +1

      @@kobblekraftka0kao29I always used unit numbers, example: WRND 717 unit 1, calling unit 2 or other, with a family member responding with WRND 717 unit 2 or 3, whatever they were assigned. We just used unit numbers or even names after until we identified with our call sign after 15 minutes or so.

  • @rickkimbley8991
    @rickkimbley8991 10 месяцев назад +1

    Hello, I'm in central IA (Altoona) and just picked up a couple radios. Was wondering it there is a common channel where people transmit? I've been in scan mode and hear no traffic. Maybe just no one in the area..

    • @kobblekraftka0kao29
      @kobblekraftka0kao29  10 месяцев назад +1

      Thats a tough one. There was really no traffic in my area either when i started. But i showed my friends and several of them became interested and they bought radios too. We eventually built a GMRS repeater, now we have two. Most of us joined the local ham club and became licensed amateurs. But we dint drop GMRS, rather several of the ham guys also got gmrs licenses and joined us on our repeaters. Being able to use both bands (frequency sets) is really great. But for me, gmrs is the first love! ❤️

    • @reno145
      @reno145 4 месяца назад +1

      Have you joined the Iowa GMRS page? They do a statewide test/check every Friday night at 9:00 PM on GMRS 19.

  • @dctineffect
    @dctineffect Год назад +1

    Can you talk about the advantages/disadvantages to HAM over GMRS besides range?

    • @kobblekraftka0kao29
      @kobblekraftka0kao29  Год назад

      That's a great idea, thanks!

    • @kobblekraftka0kao29
      @kobblekraftka0kao29  Год назад

      I've been pondering your question, it intrigued me. I launched GMRS vid#4 based on your question. Please let me know if it helped.

  • @rustynail6819
    @rustynail6819 Месяц назад +1

    I'll be honest, most people on GMRS do not have a license, and I think that's just fine. If you're polite and respectful, there's no problem. But, in the HAM world, that's totally a no-go and at the very least a technician license is the bare minimum to have to push that talk button.

    • @kobblekraftka0kao29
      @kobblekraftka0kao29  Месяц назад

      @@rustynail6819 in all honesty i totally agree! Ham is a different world, many first responders depend on amateur radio during emergencies, so those air waves are more closely guarded for good reason.

  • @Kaotix_music
    @Kaotix_music Год назад +5

    Radio etiquette is so different than that of being in the military. I worked with Army SF in afghanistan and had the 18 Echos (special forces commo sergeants) shadow me and teach me everything. After deployment, I became my platoons Radio telephone operator and knew radio etiquette so well, i had to correct officers on how to talk on the radio more properly. In the military, the person who starts a transmission, ends the transmission. We say "over" after each transmission to who im talking to so that person knows I am finished saying what I need to say and theyll respond back. When that person says "over" now i know hes done talking so I can talk back. When 2 people are talking on a frequency (or channel....same thing), NO ONE is to interrupt that conversation at all. If im trying to relay something like a location using a 10 digit grid and i start having a brain fart, or loud noises (like gun fire) are blocking my mind and I need a moment to catch a breath? Ill say "break" so that person knows Im not finished with my transmition, im quite literally taking a "break" for a moment. When Im done talking to that person, ill finish my last transmition with "OUT" (over and out is only in movies. To say "over and out is redundant. Out means "out", youre done. No need to say "over" and once "OUT" is said (again, the person who starts the transmition ends the transmission), that opens the airwaves back up for other people to talk again. Typically, especially in a war time setting, we will have different channels we program into our radios for different purposes. The main channel would be typically on a SATCOM and thats to "Higher" or higher command, for me it was anyone in a TOC at Bagram. Guys watching drone feeds, guys we talked to to call in MEDEVACs, etc. Then we would have "Command Net". Thats for the Ground Force Commander and if multiple GFC's (Ground force commanders) were on the battlefield, thats the frequency used to relay the most important information relevant to the operation and typically GFCs and GFCs only talk on those channels, unless youre someone who REALLY needs to give information to GFCs and you better have something very important to say. Then you have a "Team Net" channel. That was for the entire team you are working with to relay just about anything. Than you had a "Fires net" typically this was for mortars, artillery (if that was available) to call in IDF (indirect fire), If you have a recon or overwatch element, they had their own channel. If guys were dismounted walking through the villages and didnt want to hear all the clutter from Team net, theyll have their own channel dedicated to them. If theres also a mobile element (guys on trucks with large crew served weapons) Then they also have their own channel. This is all to keep relevant information, to relevant people who needed that information. Then you had our JTACs or Joint Terminal AIr Controllers, typically Airforce guys if its special operations who not only have to monitor what were all saying on the ground, but call in air support to birds above for fire missions. Thats why you would see some Special Operations guys actually with TWO radios on them so they can monitor two channels at once. Someitmes GFCs would even carry two radios.
    Talking to HAMS and on GMRS, im constantly corrected on my radio etiquette because its just SO different. Saying "roger", "copy", "Tango Mike" (Thanks Man), sometimes we would say "Gulf November" or meaning Good Night. The GMRS guys are much more welcoming on correcting me....but man the HAMs make me regret every day every even getting into it and im just going on HAM bands to talk to friends on open freqs and thats it lol

    • @kobblekraftka0kao29
      @kobblekraftka0kao29  Год назад +2

      Man, goooood stuff, thanks for sharing! It reminds me why we're called "amateurs" 😉 keep up the great work, and thanks for your service!

    • @Kaotix_music
      @Kaotix_music Год назад

      @@kobblekraftka0kao29I dont like the term "amateurs", HAMs know ALOTTTT and alot of HAMs even come up with new ways and ideas of communications that eventually lead to something to DoD considers using. Right now Special Operations just started using a special radio that works in the GHz range (S-Band, L-Band, and C-Band) because of a new device they carrry with them called ATAK. Its basically a cellphone attached to your body armor where you can see a map of your area, drop points of interests, write descriptions of the locations, Type a 9-line medevac vs yell and scream one over the radio and its an amazing system....but it requires high bandwidth data to work. Its HAMs that came up with that concept of that new radio. HAMs constantly make radio communications better, and better and are always help evolve and revolutionize it

    • @kf5hcr176
      @kf5hcr176 Год назад

      Thanks for your service.
      Good info from you.
      Get on the air, disregard fools and do your thing, practice your hobby, enjoy it, choose your crowd.
      No Romeo Foxtrots.

    • @michaelcole506
      @michaelcole506 Месяц назад

      REPEAT, over… 🤭

  • @dubya5
    @dubya5 11 месяцев назад +1

    what if you are talking to family that share your call sign, use call sign + handle/name?

    • @kobblekraftka0kao29
      @kobblekraftka0kao29  11 месяцев назад

      Thats no problem. The FCC just wants the call-sign identification every fifteen minutes so that they and otger listeners can know the station is a licensed user. Adding your name or handle is fine too.

  • @butchcassidy3562
    @butchcassidy3562 9 месяцев назад +1

    Got my GMRS license and checking the FCC website, I am listed but the call sign field is blank. Do they assign you one or do you submit one for approval? Thanks!

    • @DanielJimenez-uu9yl
      @DanielJimenez-uu9yl 9 месяцев назад +1

      It is assigned to you.

    • @butchcassidy3562
      @butchcassidy3562 9 месяцев назад

      Thanks! The website how has populated a call sign.
      @@DanielJimenez-uu9yl

    • @pedrocortez8824
      @pedrocortez8824 2 месяца назад

      wow i just get my lincese pay and i had that cuestion

  • @andrewyoung-n8ary
    @andrewyoung-n8ary Год назад +3

    Radio etiquette:
    Don’t be a jack@$$

  • @coziii.1829
    @coziii.1829 Год назад

    I just getting into this
    Can you repeater jump till you get to where you want it .
    I thought GMRS goes up to 50 miles on good day from base station.
    I have 4 properties and plan to put up at least 100 foot tower on each and maybe with repeaters .
    All properties are about 40-50 mile radius with one in middle .
    My questions
    Do I need that tall of towers for base stations and repeaters
    What’s the best antennas
    What’s best power supply
    I’m in Oklahoma

    • @kobblekraftka0kao29
      @kobblekraftka0kao29  Год назад

      Being in OK is a real plus, plenty of flat land is good. "Jumping" repeaters in a series would require one of two things:
      1) all are linked via internet.
      Or...
      2) a person listening on the first repeater "relays" your message to the next, and so on.
      GMRS may not be the best solution for you. A general class ham licence would let you call any one of those properties to any of the others usingbhigh frequency. A tower wouldnt even be needed then, just some wires. Bestcsetup for local comm like that might be NIVS, check that stuff out.

  • @garrettlavigne4753
    @garrettlavigne4753 Год назад +2

    Hello, I just signed up for a license to use a GMRS radio but I don’t know where to find my call sign, any help would be great 👍🏻.

    • @kobblekraftka0kao29
      @kobblekraftka0kao29  Год назад

      If its all paid for and finalized then you should be able to lookup your FRN and find any licenses associated with it.

    • @shibbidydoowop
      @shibbidydoowop Год назад

      Once you know your frn you have to find the website for the ULS manager; you use your frn number to sign in as opposed to your email/username. The site looks similar.

  • @davidyummus6259
    @davidyummus6259 Год назад +1

    Anyone please :)
    (New to Radio) I have a Hacked/Factory Set UV-5R that I programmed the 22 GMRS Channels/Frequencies into plus a local Repeater.
    Are the following Antenna Specs good for GMRS Frequencies ?
    Frequency: RX:136-174MHz,400-520MHz;TX:GMRS(462-467MHz)
    Gain: 3.0 dBi.
    Max Power: 20Watts.
    V.S.W.R: Less than 1.5.
    Impedance: 50ohm.
    Antenna length: 48cm/18.89inch

    • @kobblekraftka0kao29
      @kobblekraftka0kao29  Год назад +1

      If you'll only be using it on GMRS then it sounds like a great antenna. 👍

    • @davidyummus6259
      @davidyummus6259 Год назад +1

      @@kobblekraftka0kao29
      Thanks for the reply :)

  • @vicrod74
    @vicrod74 6 месяцев назад +2

    So it's like Amateur Radio without taking the 35 question test? lol

    • @kobblekraftka0kao29
      @kobblekraftka0kao29  6 месяцев назад +2

      Yeah, in some ways you could say that. At least as far as following the FCC rules it is. But since the requirement to ID is 15 minutes for GMRS we can do more chatting between ID's.

  • @schmick125
    @schmick125 Год назад

    Do you only have to say your call sign on non frs frequencies I assume?

    • @kobblekraftka0kao29
      @kobblekraftka0kao29  Год назад

      Yes, any licensed frequencies will require ID with your call sight at certain intervals (15 minutes oN GMRS, 10 minutes for ham frequencies). But FRS, MURS, and other unlicensed frequencies are free to use, no ID calls required.
      Have fun, push that PTT!

    • @CzechSixTv
      @CzechSixTv 9 месяцев назад

      There are no FRS or GMRS exclusive frequencies anymore, other than the repeater inputs. All of the simplex channels(1-22) are identical and available for users of both services. The requirement for a license is based solely on the type of the radio you are using.
      If it is a Part 95B type accepted FRS radio with ALL of the following features:

  • @kygent508
    @kygent508 Год назад +1

    Is there a site that has those codes?

    • @kobblekraftka0kao29
      @kobblekraftka0kao29  Год назад

      Oh heck yeah, just google "ham radio Q-codes". Most GMRS folks don't know the codes, but hams who enjoy the gmrs band kinda popularize them by simply using them. Its kinda handy and folks catch on quick. Many of them are only relavent on HF radio, but lots are useful in common radio conversation. QTH, QSY, QRT, etc.

    • @kygent508
      @kygent508 Год назад

      @@kobblekraftka0kao29 Thanks

  • @djsoundzentertainment42
    @djsoundzentertainment42 2 года назад +1

    It's my understanding that with GMRS, you may not use any type of codes like 10-codes, amateur radio Q-codes, ect. and must use PLAIN LANGUAGE to communicate. UPDATE
    I have found that coded messages are indeed allowed. Previously they were not.

    • @kobblekraftka0kao29
      @kobblekraftka0kao29  2 года назад +3

      Hmmm, I'm not familiar with that, but I'll double check. It's certainly true we cannot use codes that are not commonly understood, but Q-codes and CW (Morse) are both common to the hobby, and both are prevalent in my experience.

    • @djsoundzentertainment42
      @djsoundzentertainment42 2 года назад +2

      @@kobblekraftka0kao29 But Q-codes are for amateur radio, GMRS is far from amateur radio.

    • @kobblekraftka0kao29
      @kobblekraftka0kao29  2 года назад +1

      @@djsoundzentertainment42 true, but i don't recall reading anything out of the ordinary in the fcc rules re coded messages. I will check though, painting a fence right now though. Thanks for listening and for your comment. 🤠👍

    • @djsoundzentertainment42
      @djsoundzentertainment42 2 года назад +1

      @@kobblekraftka0kao29 I could be wrong as it was years ago when I had last checked. Things change so much these days.

    • @kobblekraftka0kao29
      @kobblekraftka0kao29  2 года назад +4

      @DJ Soundz Entertainment in part 95 it says: "Coded messages or messages with hidden meanings (“10 codes” are permissible);"
      Hmmm, it specifies 10-codes, but not q-codes... u may be right. But then, this isnt the only technical flaw in my quick vid, and i do hear a lot of q-codes on gmrs in my area. Does that excuse it? No, maybe we should clean that up. Then again, its a harmless infraction that just isnt maybe specified parenthetically in the "rules" as 10-codes are. I hear a lit of spanish language in my area too, also forbidden, but it doesnt bother me, I'm glad to see folks using their radios. 😊 thanks for commenting!

  • @bass779
    @bass779 2 года назад +1

    Why use ham codes on GMRS? Seems like exclusionary and obsolete to use Morse code based codes in a digital age. Reminds me of all the internet chat lingo, which at least makes sense as it is typed.

    • @kobblekraftka0kao29
      @kobblekraftka0kao29  2 года назад +3

      The only time i hear ham codes used is in one on one communication between folks who know the terms and are just trying to speed things up. "QSY to 18" is easier than describing a switch to another channel, and others pick up on it if they listen. Agreed, they should never be used for exclusion.

    • @bass779
      @bass779 2 года назад +3

      @@kobblekraftka0kao29 totally makes sense in that context

    • @minarchisttrucker2775
      @minarchisttrucker2775 2 года назад

      I use 73 and such just because I've heard others do it and it does make communication more efficient when the people you're talking to know the meaning

  • @radiohobbyist13
    @radiohobbyist13 2 месяца назад

    I have both licenses but it makes me sick when I hear people on GMRS talking hammy or, worse yet, like CB'ers.

    • @MarkWilsonRN
      @MarkWilsonRN Месяц назад

      New the the gmrs and ham. I just listen on ham but my wife and I travel nurse across the country, when we’re in our care we communicate by gmrs bc we sometimes lose cell signal and it’s also just easier. Don’t know what hammy means but we just talk and every once in a while I say my call sign. Just wondering what is not correct etiquette that makes you sick.

  • @pamelah6431
    @pamelah6431 Месяц назад +1

    You can tell it's government by how arbitrary their "rules" are - every 15 mins? I'm working, I'm not going to set a timer to go off every 15 mins all day to announce my call sign to my sister, the only other person on the channel. Cmon.

    • @kobblekraftka0kao29
      @kobblekraftka0kao29  23 дня назад

      @@pamelah6431 its only while you are transmitting. If you're done you're done.

  • @denniscoleman4954
    @denniscoleman4954 2 месяца назад +1

    Rugged two-way radios