3:28 I was looking at a 65w purchase, but after seeing you have all these doohickys and then you said it suck, I will skip that purchase and look more towards the 120w. Thanks for the video
Man, I really love your content. We need more people like you exposing the real number on these devices so we can make accurate purchases. I really appreciate what you do, hope you keep it up
It may seem unimportant, but showing a full 360 view of these chargers is 1) very helpful, and 2) surprisingly hard to find. I have a Apple Watch charger stick thing that only plugs in one way. For example, it would be upside down on the 120w charger, but right side up on the 150w charger since the usb-a direction is flipped. Thanks, these videos are awesome and truly helpful. Anker’s site nor amazon have front views of these chargers.
Thanks, that is a great point! I actually fairly regularly run into that myself...what do the connections look like, what are the markings on the product. Anker's webpage and user manual don't even mention the silicon sleeve thing (donut). Product photos will be 7 different orthogonal views all essentially the same. It isn't complicated but for some reason it is.
I picked this anker 747 up after watching this video, mostly for travel. After 26 months, 2 months out of their 2 year warranty it died. Anker, your designers deserve a bonus. I seriously only used the 747 for travel, so maybe around 4 trips total over 2 years. Died while charging a kindle, iPad, and phone simultaneously. I think I’m going to go the route of getting several, single port chargers by adding a couple ikea cubes to the stock chargers I already have. Multiport, high wattage adapters just seem too finicky and expensive, for now at least.
huh, yeah, that's too soon for failure. It's the question I pose in the Anker 240W video too, how long are any of these really going to last... you can demonstrate how long by analyzing the components, which aren't premium top end parts and usually stuffed into a place where they get too hot and cause things like early failures, of course it is a totally solved problem but it's a few cents more to make it last longer. There are high reliability designs but even if it's a single penny more, not a single large manufacturer will spec that part. This one works right now and it's cheaper, send it.
Wow, thank you! Titles, icons, talking speed, lack of breaks in the video are some reasons why it isn't bigger, less broad appeal. Also I think YT is having a hard time finding the audience that goes with the channel or there just isn't that big of an audience which is fine. Yes, I am reviewing power adapters mostly, but it is more than that. Anyway, still all good fun so I've got way too many things in the queue for videos coming up.
I read somewhere that the numbering scheme is first digit is the series, second number is the number of ports the third, is performance. Good thing I ordered the 150W
I think you are onto something there with the numbering. Although the last number I think is watts. So the nano ii series 30w is a 711. 65w is 715. 100w 736. And you know the 120/150w GaN prime 7. I guess they could have made the 7 an 8 on the 150w.
I've bought 737 120w recently, and its absolutely great charger, my mbp16 m1 charges simultaneously with air m1 with no problem, no overheat. It fact i strongle recomend it instead of original mac chargers. And with next gen type-c iphones, its can be ultimate charger!
The "something about Anker" is decent prices/reliability and actual support when things go wrong. They're never top of the lot for performance but they're mostly dependable IME
1 usb c broke on my charger it has 2 usb c and 2 usb a i contact them amazone they say we are a reseller so we can’t replace the product i got my money back. And we had a door bell of eufy ( anker ) direct from them it broke and they said we can give you a gift card or money back.
Could you break down the 65W for me? I'm a bit confused. So I see you don't really recommend it because it AC line current distortion is bad, lack of PFC, etc...But what does that all translate into for the user? Does it mean that is consumes more power than it needs to? Or does it mean that there's a higher risk of your device getting damaged when being charged by it? Pretend like I don't understand (because I don't haha). So just trying to understand what these technical differences mean in practice. Thanks, good stuff...
Yeah, the numbers are small but basically an uncorrected switching power supply (what the 65W adapter is) is very non-sinusoidal. When I show the graph of current voltage and power you want all those lines to be the same shape (power only flows in so it is always positive). When the lines are different shapes with each other these are harmonics that aren't the same as the voltage waveform. The more different these become the more current has to be moved around to do the same amount of work, work is power X time. More current means more loss (lower efficiency) since all components have real losses. I want the most accurate reading so I measure voltage right at the socket but if you extend that through some household wiring, transformers, etc. you find that the lower wattage (65W) adapter ends up using more REAL power (the kind you pay for) than a power factor corrected model at the same power level. I had a video planned on this but for some reason it never made it into production. That is kind of the trick, and it is a small number as electricity is pretty cheap, at least in North America. I did this comparison for 100W adapters for a video and with cheap electricity it is only a few $ per year but the real cost is worse since everything else in the chain has to be scaled up to handle the extra current. Power grids do this with large correction stations but they pay for the real power those devices consume although they can only do time alignment or phase correction if the wave shape is all that from switching power supplies you are out of luck. This is one reason why datacenter power supplies require power factor correction, also commercial locations pay for low power factor. Hope that helps a little.
@@AllThingsOnePlace Thanks for the detailed explanation, it definitely helps. My biggest concern is regarding device safety. So if I am charging any device (phone/tablet/headphones), I can choose whether I want to do it with this 65W adapter or maybe a 120W or 150W. Now it's clear that the 120W/150W are more efficient from an energy perspective, maybe saving you a couple bucks a year and also better for society as it eases the grid. But in terms of the device itself, is a phone being charged with a 65W without power factor correction more at risk of being damaged or negatively impacted in any way compared to charging with a 120W/150W that does have PFC? That's what I'd really like to know and want to understand, if you could please explain. I watched some of your other videos and think you do great analysis that's extremely relevant to educated buyers.
@@jonnytu968 From a safety perspective for both keeping the user safe and keeping your device safe Anker devices are actually quite good. They have good safety in terms of electrical isolation. The charging rate is actually determined by the device being charged. So, a 120W power adapter won't force 120w into your phone. The phone/laptop/etc. will decide how much to use.
I've been using the 150W adapter for a week now, and I'm overall happy! It's actually quite hotter than I was expecting based on their marketing. The suction cup is weaker than I'd prefer (adapter still falls out when used at one property's old outlets). It reroutes the watts decently when I have Macbook Pro, iPhone, and Watch plugged in via USB-C, but it seems to take 5-10 minutes to figure this out (originally starts charging Macbook with 50W??).
Yeah, the power sharing I noticed would reset occasionally while I was testing and I kind of breezed over the fact that the power sharing details supplied by Anker are quite bad. No idea that one of the ports isn't full output power... Worried about labels ruining the aesthetic but then the finish on the product is rubbish so labels would've been nice. I'm curious if mixing the ports up helps with the power distribution figuring out.
@@AllThingsOnePlace i think the middle port is best. it does have a little logo of a computer next to it and an amazon review mentions similar issues with power negotiation and how the middle port works best. im kind of annoyed that this is the case tho, and im worried if that port fails then the charger is kinda fucked. might go with baseus or some other 140W one next time.
The content I am looking for !!!! I got the 150W version and I don't understand why I never get more than 60W when I charge my MBPro and why my phone doesn't charge as fast as when I am in my car :( . The quality of info you provide is just top notch !!! Thanks for your work !
That sounds like the USB cable. The cable will limit power to 60W if it doesn't have an emarker chip in it, cables are usually labelled 100W, or 5A, or 240W or some variation if they can do more than 60W. In terms of car charging, not sure.
@@AllThingsOnePlace Yeah I thought that was the case but I was even trying that same cable with my apple charger and it went to 90W. Also, I tried the MagSafe Cable with my Anker 150W and I didn't manage to go above 60w ... even if my battery was very low on charge (20% ish) :(
@@AllThingsOnePlace Thanks for answering , that's weird because I can charge up to 80-90W using that same cable on an apple charger :() I ll try something else :)
What a great content! It seems though that those chargers are not as PRIME as i thought they would be. However the 150W looks appealing. Thanks for this video, been waiting for it!
I bought the GaNPrime 65W to charge a Steam Deck and it'll display that a "slow charger" warning that it is below the recommended; now I read that applies to the 120W and 150W chargers as well. I emailed Anker about it they said they'll "upgrade the current 9v to 15v to match Steam Deck's charging strategy". To the current owners of these chargers, Anker gave me two options. 1. Keep the charger, they'll issue a 20% refund (assured that the charger could charge the Steam Deck with no issue) 2. Trade the 735 charger that I have for the upgraded version. What's your thoughts on the GaNPrime chargers? is the 65W still bad a choice with the upgrade?
It is an odd choice of Steam to go with voltages and currents higher than the PD standard. Really, it should be Steam that fixes the steam deck to be compliant with PD 3.0 or PD 3.1 and not make power adapter manufacturers change their products to be proprietary for steam, that's a bit no... Not that other game handhelds don't do that... The battery voltage in the Steam deck is about 7.5 volts though so I understand making it compatible with anything 9V and up for "fast" charging. If Steam chose the PPS mode it could charge with any voltage and up to 5 amps with any ~45W supporting PPS adapter in less than an hour, with a battery that turns into a small furnace, or with 20V in it could do so and be mildly more efficient (buck converter has to do some work either way). Anyway, the 65W Anker is an okay choice after a software update. The power technology in that versus the 120 or 150w adapters is different enough that it would be much better if they updated those larger adapters. There are better 65W choices but they are all kind of not great. In either case, these anker adapters will do 45W into 15V no problem so I put the blame on steam, also steam deck won't charge that fast anyway (22W max charge rate). So, is it stuck in 9V mode or something? The adapters will still do 27W at 9V.
@@AllThingsOnePlace So from Anker support they state “Normally Steam Deck has a slow charging warning for two reasons: The input power is less than 30W OR Steam Deck didn't choose the PD 15V for charging. The slow charger warning is shown when using the GaNPrime charger because the Steam Deck does not switch to a 15V charging protocol when the charger is connected.”
small suction cups to keep it from falling or getting lose, this is why UK plugs (G type) are the best !! I just imagine how terrible it would wobble around when you want to pull one of those 3 cables out ! This is not an issue with UK plugs. All of that is in addition to the safety feature of having earth connection in all devices.
Damn. That's my plan out the window. I was planning on getting a 65w Anker to replace my giant laptop charger and to limit the charge speed for better battery health. Guess I'll look at others.
Thanks, I think the larger ones did better than the usual for Anker. The 65W is substantially worse than Ankers own Nano II 65W adapter so no idea what went wrong there...
Glad that I researched this first. This testing is super impressive. Sad that Amazon is prioritizing their house brand over others with discounts. Marketing wins big time.
I don't expect them to do great on the power quality side, it is more about portability and ease of use for those. Can still have a winner of the category though.
From what I can tell, the anker naming convention is 737 (first 7 is generation, second is number of physical ports, last is the output/watts?) See the 543 and 717 as examples supporting my theory.
Yep, then there's the A number, then the name of the product. It looks like the number scheme is to clear things up, then they started using it for power banks so you have multiple products with the same number. It isn't the best thought out system.
Awesome and unique review. Question. Will the 65watt Anker adapter, with its crap power delivery profile damage phone and tablet electronics or nothing to worry about? Or, simply put, if cost is not an issue, just go for the 747 adapter? Thank you for your time
If cost isn't an issue then the 747 is a solid choice, the 737 isn't bad either. I do use the 747 for laptop use. The 65W adapter won't damage anything though. If you are only using lower wattages (a phone or tablet) the 65W isn't a bad choice.
Very informative tests! I was looking for a charger for my phone, smart watch, and potentially other devices. I was disappointed that the 65W performed so low. Would you recommend getting the 120W for charging small devices together and/or individually such as phones, smartwatches, wireless buds, and portable consoles (Steam Deck)? I currently don't have large devices that charge via USB-C, so I don't think the 150W is a good idea. I am currently using Google's 30W charger for my phone, my PC to charge my smartwatch and wireless buds, and the Steam Deck comes with its own charger. If not from Anker, which charger would you recommend for the uses listed above?
The 120W charger is worth a try. I think the Steam Deck is a little better now with 3rd party chargers, but that's the only one I'd worry about compatibility with. The google 30W charger isn't a bad charger but yeah one port.
It is true the 715 is a little better. The extra ports are very convenient but if you are only using one port at 65W then they're wasted on the 735 anyway. Personally, the 715 found it's way into one of my portable kits for powering or charging.
I wish I saw this video sooner, I'm using the ganprime 65w, should I keep it? is it safe for my electronics? I mainly using it to charge laptop (all day) and phone.
It is perfectly safe. It is fine for the electronics. It's minor but it uses more current than it needs to, to do the same job. Thanks to cheap subsidized electricity it doesn't cost much more to operate. Basically, 65W adapters all lack technology to 'clean up' the AC power usage so in general I either like smaller adapters (since the impact is more negligible) or larger adapters (because they mostly have correction circuits).
@@AllThingsOnePlace It's unfortunate because the 65w and 67w ankers are dirty cheap on costco and bestbuy with the 30w anker. I don't need one yet so I'll wait. If anker had pps 21v on a single port 65w one for $30- for my pixel 9 xl I'd bite.
Very thorough review!! I still don't understand why the 65W is so bad? Because of the lack of PFC? Making it less efficient? What would be the impact for yearly use? A small suggestion, I Would like to see the volume to power comparison as well(if possible).
PFC and THD, very high peak current demands (3-4 amps versus 1.5) are all issues. I am thinking of doing a shorts series on each one of these topics individually but in the end, yes, all of these contribute to what I call hidden efficiency loss. The power meter doesn't see it if measured per the specifications because you measure right at the plug so the real efficiency looks very good. Add in typical system components, outlets, wiring, transformers and these non-PFC and non-linear devices can cost a few dollars more per year (electricity is very cheap but as it gets more expensive this matters more) and also it puts load on the grid, that it doesn't want to deal with especially since it is non-linear. Obviously, larger devices mean more loss and more cost. Also high volume devices, there is a reason energy star light bulbs require PFC.
@@AllThingsOnePlaceI already got the one with 65w, I understood there are power efficiency concerns, but what about safety of use? should I be concerned about using it with my devices?
@@castillo4141 These adapters are safety rated for use in the USA and Canada, so they, within reason, shouldn't be able to cause harm to the user or the device plugged into them.
I’m a little confused… around the 6:02 mark in this video, you say that the 120w & 150w trip out around 105w. Is that just on a single port I assume? Have you been able to get the 737 to put out more than 100w using all the ports? I bought one of these and haven’t been able to get more than 100w out of mine using all the ports and a multitude of different devices plugged in. It also doesn’t put out as much power as the factory 87w Apple charger that came with my Macbook pro. Also the bottom USB-A port only puts out around 13.5w not matter what device I put into it. They claim it does 22.5w. I’m not impressed with the 120w 737….
These power adapters max out at 100 watts on one port. So, the overload trip point is 105 watts. It will do 150 watts on mulitple ports, and the one port will go 5 watts beyond, so 155 watts total. The USB standard is 100 watts, 20 volts and 5 amps on one port for these devices. The next step up goes to 140 watts on one port with the EPR mode or 28V and 5 amps. The 5 amps is a limit of the cables and port itself. Most devices won't support the 28V mode though. The device asks for power, so the device also has to support the protocol. The USB A port supports QC devices, so if you have a QC device it will negotiate more voltage and then deliver 22.5 watts. It's all protocols and standards.
You seem like the most knowledgable person on RUclips when it comes to this kind of stuff. I purchased the 737 120w and when I plug my 15" MacBook Pro into the charger separately usb-c- it draws around 84w of power. I plug my iPad Pro into usb-c separately and it draws around 30w. I plug my ipnone 14 pro max into the usb-a separately and it draws 13w. So that all totals 84+30+13= 127w. I then plug all 3 devices at same time, same exact ports and max the charger outputs is around 85-86w. Doesn't make any sense. What good is the 120w charger? This is a common theme as I saw it several other occasions in testing on RUclips. Something is flawed in Ankers new chargers and you'd be the perfect person to figure out what it is. I also feel the claims being made for the usb-a rated for 22.5w is misleading. Come to find out if you get a phone like a Huawei that is not allowed to be sold in the USA, you can get the advertised wattage but any apple product will be capped at about 13w.
@@scottrodgers1648 Yeah, you can get the maximum power out but it does require a specific circumstance to happen. 60+60 watt. The negotiation with three things plugged in probably dropped to 45+45+22.5 maximum power for the three ports. So, you ended up, with 45, 30 and 13. Yes, it is true that USB A ports are often QC compatible only, they do not have the CC pin in USB C so wouldn't work with PD protocols.
@@AllThingsOnePlace " These power adapters max out at 100 watts on one port...." if thats the case then what would be your perfect choice of charger to charge Anker power bank 737, 140 watts ?
oh wow. I was really about to buy the 65w, now that the holidays sales started. but now I will skip it then. I want something small but with enough power for on the go. I don't want to bring my 275w massive and heavy brick that came with my ASUS gaming laptop, as I don't intend to game on the go, but use it for regular "office" work and/or video streaming. but I need more time than the about 5hrs very light @ low-mid brightness usage that the battery gives me. If you say non-65w are good, then should I look at the lower 45w or so, tiny ones? having the extra ports is nice but not a deal breaker. The other usage I'd give is as a "fast" or more efficient charger to my new iPhone. I bought Anker 100w brick that is big but still bit smaller/lighter than the factory ASUS 275w brick. I wonder if you reviewed it. It's the one with 2 usb-c and 2 usb-a ports, Apple like looking.
65W is a tough category because the current draw from the AC side starts to get unreasonable (compared with other devices). They are still real power efficient but that isn't the whole story. In terms of keeping current reasonable and power relatively cleaner the 30W and under category is okay since the current levels are not as crazy and these won't have power factor correction either. The 100W category does step things up a bit in terms of size and weight and usually includes the power correcting features to make sine waves not spikes. Some leave out the corrections which are even worse than the 65W... Everyone's use is different and it is an opinion so if the 65W is the perfect device for you, do it, but hopefully from my video you know it is a little less nice to your AC grid.
Thanks for the test! Interesting to see that Anker does nothing really better than others. Almost a little bit disappointing. Do you expect any other outcome for adapters with EU plug? A couple of weeks ago I went for a Baseus 100W adapter. I’m wondering wether there could be a difference in performance to the US version. Any thoughts?
The EU adapters would probably score a little lower (not a huge amount but measurable) in general versus US counterparts. The higher peak voltage in general causes the power factor correction circuit to behave less effectively at lighter loads but also causes lower power factor in non-power factor corrected adapters. All the adapters are the same internally, they just put a different plug on the outside. The real power efficiency may actually be higher though since for more voltage in the current in will be lower and current is a major contributor to heating.
Would the 120W be good to use daily? I mean leaving the iPhone charging overnight? I’m just wondering if the power draw will ruin the battery if a phone faster overnight and if I should get like a 5w charger to slow charge my iPhone overnighting incase if this? Or if this will be fine (or perhaps I stop charging overnight). Please if you have any knowledge on what is considered better it would be fantastic to know. Thank you 🙏🏻
Yeah, phones are a lot better now (2022) versus 3 or 4 years ago with both battery and charging technology. The phone decides how much and how fast to charge basically. I personally rarely leave my phone plugged in overnight and I also swap between fast and less fast charging almost every other charge (It isn't exactly that but close), 4 years later battery health is 85% so I think I am doing okay. There is some truth to faster charging causing more degradation of the battery but it depends on the speed of charging and temperature. 5-15W iPhones spend most of their time in is fine. The MAX phones go a little quicker but I don't know if they have something more sophisticated for charging.
@@AllThingsOnePlace For the comparison tables for each charger, where you break down the parameters by percentage of overall power into different columns, can you apply the power factor corrections by percentage across all charging ports and each port's capability (percent of total power for USB C and percent of total power for USB A)? If single port charging for the USB C ports on the 120W and 140W chargers is a max of 100W (it shows up that way on the Amazon listing), if an iPhone spends its time drawing 15W, that's somewhere between your 10% and your 25% columns, and at 10% there is no power factor correction turned on. And the USB A port has a 22.5W max, therefore, 15W is 2/3 of the maximum, and power factor correction is turned on (if the percentage columns can be applied to both USB A and USB C). Or am I missing something? Thank you for testing these chargers and putting the information out there online.
@@sarahjohnson7337So, yeah percentage is of total load. The columns are chosen based on the EU 2019/1782 and DOE VI percentage of total power supply load requirements. The voltage is what determines whether power factor turns on. The lowest voltage to get the power out (worst case because of highest current) is always picked for these columns. So, if you enable a PD mode then the charger turns on power factor correction, in the 5V mode it leaves it off. Most phones tend to switch back and forth on 5v/9v and the behavior can get a little complicated, regardless of port used. With these QC (USB A) PD 3 (USB C) enabled devices you are correct that they do not have an extended power range modes so 100W is the maximum a single port can deliver, lower on USB A. I know I needed to clear this up a bit more in this video. Basically, the theme with Anker is if you are charging lower powered devices the active PFC won't be enabled.
It really depends on your needs. Based on my testing and work with both yes I recommend Baseus 100w chargers (multiport only) but that is because they suit my needs. If 120W then Anker wins. I am daily driving the Baseus adapters. I use both brands though. The Anker Nano II 71* series adapters tend to get use because they are so small and Baseus does not have competition here. Anker is very compelling with these 120/150W offerings though, if you need multiple PPS fast charging Anker is the only way to go!
You mention that the power split across the ports will re-negotiate whenever a cable is connected or disconnected. Does this also occur when one device finishes charging but remains connected?
It is device dependent. But, yes it can. My phone swaps between 9 and 5 volts during charging and when it does it resets the other USB C port momentarily. Not all devices do this though and some chargers have a power limit before port sharing so sometimes won't trip the other port (this is usually on larger adapters).
Hi, Thanks for the amazing content that you offer here, glad i found your chanel, i recently bought the gan prime 120w and when i was a bit close to the brick i heard noice in the charger, i unplugged it and the noise stays in the charger even when its unplugged for about 5 seconds, is this ok ? Or my unit has some manufacturing defect ?
A small whine or squeal is sometimes normal from power adapters. This is usually an inductor that didn't get tacked down quite right or has a slightly different manufacturing tolerance. That isn't a problem. Clicking, popping, buzzing would be considered not normal sounds for power adapter.
Another amazing video man. I commented on your other video for the power banks. Question: do I need a 100watt or higher power adapter to charge the Anker 737? or can any adapter do it? But then again I'm guessing lower wattage output means it would take longer to charge the actual power bank right? 😩
At 6:27 you mention the voltage drop, and I think (as someone who hasn't taken a physics class in many years) I understand the overall concept that to get to the goal power of 100W with a circuit that has more losses, you need more current. But that raises a question of, with more current, is it still safe to use? Is there a way to control how much power each device wants to draw that we are trying to charge (phones, laptops, headphones, power banks, etc.)? Is there a way to control the charging so that you don't get a current overload and damage the device? Are the 120W (737) and 150W (757) Anker chargers safe for something like a M1 Pro MacBook Pro 14 where Apple markets its own 96W charger as the "fast" charger for that laptop if the laptop is trying to get 100W charging from one of the Anker chargers? Thanks for your informative videos. No one else is describing the chargers from your perspective. I think as a consumer I can tell that a charger feels hot and that is a tangible sign that there is some energy being converted to heat and not being used to charge a device. Ideally, I would like to get a charger that is, above all, safe (not going to damage the device at the charging port of the device, and also not going to overload the charger itself and cause that to overheat and create a fire hazard), but also power efficient both during charging and when it is idle and not charging anything but I've maybe forgotten to unplug it from the wall. Additionally, it would be nice to have a charger that is convenient in the sense that the charger is versatile and has both USB C and USB A charging options for a variety of devices. I guess we all want that ideal.
So, the device decides how much to use already. The device and the power adapter 'talk' to each other, the device says I want 20V the power adapter says I can do 2 amps at 20 V and the device will pull something near that limit. If based around current limit then with an Anker adapter you only get 38W because the voltage drops to 19, in reality with a cable probably 18V so 36W now at that hypothetical 2 amps. If you use a 100W Anker adapter with a MacBook it will negotiate the limit. True on the ideals. Efficiency is complicated in AC but still less heat created is the goal.
eu tenho um Xiaomi 8 lite, quero o anker mais forte pra carregar junto com um Cabo mais rápido e eficiente que seria USB normal ou USBC !!!! Qual anker e Cabo eu devo comprar???
I have your recommended Baseus 100w but it’s just too heavy for my light style of travel and I need to leave it home . Do you recommend the 735 for travel? If not, what light weight three port alternative do you recommend?
I'm still searching for that adapter. The weight/size difference is really not all that great from a 65W to a 100W charger. If weight/size is really a factor then I'd step down to a 30 or 45 watt charger. Like the anker 511 (30w), 313, 323 something like that.
@@AllThingsOnePlace The problem is that I need to charge my Macbook from it and also have other devices to charge. You would just avoid it? I don't care about extra energy use while traveling, and won't be using the 735 at home. Are there any other concerns with the 735 such as damaging my devices?
Hi there. I have seen a lot of your videos the last few days while I am looking a good power multiport adapter for my iPhone 15 pro max , iPad Pro m2 and other camera devices . As I can understand from what you are saying is that the most of wattages the better in terms of thermal . Right ? Will I harm my iPhone or iPad if I charge with a 100w or 120w adapter ? Is there any case to provoke battery damage because of the more heat? Can I connect my iPad to the 65 port safely ? That are my main concerns
The device decides how much power to use, the power adapter can't force more watts into the device. All of the ports on these start at 5V and negotiate up from there. Apple is good about manage battery temperatures so, yes, they will get warm, in the sun they will say charging paused if it's too hot, but they try to maintain a reasonable battery life for the life expectancy of the device.
@@AllThingsOnePlace Thank you for your prompt reply. So. I have found Anker Gan Prime 100W for 45 Euros on sale. Do you think that will be fine or to look for another better charger ?
What adapter gives more than 65W ? Your technical review highly appreciated. It’s sad no consumer protection are active. Your Recommendation also much needed end of the review.
I have some bigger adapters on the way soon and hopefully they will be better options than what I've looked at so far. Currently, the idmix 140W and the Anker 150W 747 are my top picks.
So if I understand correctly, from your testing; 65w chargers are typically less efficient than 100w chargers. But if a 65w Anker nano II charger is $75aud and a Baseus 100w is $100aud (a difference of $25), is the cost of the inefficiency over the lifespan of the charger (assume maybe 10 years?) really going to justify spending extra $ for a more efficient higher wattage charger when your device is limited to 45w charging anyway? Or would the costs of the inefficiency be negligible? I feel like a lot of people may avoid 65w chargers based on your findings without properly understanding things (myself included) when really the 65w chargers are perhaps not THAT bad? Do you consider it justified financially spending extra $ for a 100w charger when you don’t actually need the extra wattage? Love your work
I wouldn't buy Baseus if it is priced higher. But yeah, if you are charging a 45W device the cost change per year is very small. The issues I've run into with 65W chargers is not enough power or negotiation issues, I recommend the Amazon Basics 65W adapter since it is both efficient and compact, but it is a one trick pony, on the multiport ports drop to low power and then don't charge all my devices. Never had that issue with a 100W charger, always enough even after the power levels drop with lots of devices plugged in. The efficiency boost is a nice plus but probably only worth a dollar or two a year for the time the device actually spends charging. So, cost factors in a lot. If the Anker is cheaper at 65W, that has to weight in on the decision. I've adjusted my newer videos to more clearly take this into consideration.
in another video, you mentioned that the Hyphen X should not be left plugged in... this Anker ganprime can be left plugged in right? how about the Baseus 100W? is that also safe to be left plugged in?
Yeah, the Hyphen-X has a little extra power consumption under the idle condition versus the others. These Anker adapters all had lower idle power consumption.
What is the charging output of the 65W charger when connecting 2 devices? Will it divide the charge evenly? Or will it max the first usb-c at 45W and the second at 15W, or something like that? Do you know the specific output for each port when connecting multiple devices? Thanks
Great channel I just discovered it. I love buying chargers not for testing. I just like having chargers in each room ready to go. You have opened my eyes to the idle power draw. Anyhow, my question is, perhaps you could touch upon charging the Nintendo Switch. I know they don't follow the PD standard correctly, as such almost no PD chargers will say they can charge a Switch. I'm successfully charging my Switch with an older Anker 30w 2 port Powerport PD2 charger, model A2625. It only gives out 5v and 9v on PD, so perhaps I'm just lucky and this is how it is working for me. Do you recommend any current chargers that can potentially safely charge the Switch? I'm looking at the Amazon Basics 2 port 68w charger (USB-C and USB-A).You have not covered this one yet, but I need to have something for a MacBook Air and my Switch. Until now I would always buy Anker but you have shown they are not always the best. Keep up the good work.
Yeah, I try not to get too device specific since so many devices the entire video would be and this device... I focus on the item itself. The PD specification is supported by the nintendo switch dock. I am sure there are different generations of switch at this point also so these could all mean different things. side note the 68W gets a skip rating. I think the issue you will run into is port negotiation as I am not sure how the Switch and MacBook will play with each other on port sharing. I would actually recommend a smaller adapter that can do 15V/3A (maybe Anker Nano II 45W?) specific for that device. This is assuming nintendo switch dock, not a 3rd party, then all bets are off. These all put out 5V until the device requests more than 5V. If you have a USB adapter that constantly puts out more than 5V when not plugged into an end device then it should not be used (some security camera adapters do this, USB C ports are cheap, and these adapters will put in micro print 'not compatible with other devices').
@@AllThingsOnePlace Thank you for the reply, shame the Amazon basics is a no go, I like the two C and A ports, will probably pick up the nano ii 45W then.
Hello, could you please help me choose, I am between the Anker 735 GaNPrime 65W or the Anker 735 Nano II, here in Chile the ganprime costs 45 dollars, while the nano costs 25 dollars. Is there much difference between the ganprime and the nano? Thank you very much in advance, your videos help me a lot
More than one port or multiple ports? The performance of the Nano II is actually better, it is a little more efficient. The 735 was a disappointment compared with the other Anker offerings but if you need more ports it will work. But you can also fit two nano II's in the same space as the 735.
@@AllThingsOnePlace wow thank you very much for such a detailed answer, and yes, I was referring to both 735 with multiple ports, only one has Gan Prime technology and the other does not
Do I need to get special cables for the 120w one to charge a laptop, or can I use the USB C cable that comes with my Pixel 9 Pro XL? Great video as always!
I'm not sure what they give you with the pixel but one way to find out... The basic requirement is a 100W e-marked cable to maximize one port on the 120W adapter.
I wonder why they didn't include a ground prong. I am not sure if there is a meaningful safety benefit, but it would definately help hold the adapter in the wall.
Yeah, if it was like the UK plugs with the black plastic ground, it would help a lot for the US outlets. Japan would be out of luck, most outlets are only 2 pins.
Great channel you got going. I'm lost when it comes to the technical stuff but enjoy the information and details that go into it. I have a question when it comes to the Anker 747 vs the Baseus 100w; two different chargers, I understand. However, I recently purchased the 747 thinking it would be able to fast charge my Macbook Pro M1 (140w), but it doesn't. In your opinion, is the extra 50w on the 747 worth the price over the Baseus 100w? Its main use would be to charge a MB M1 Max, iPhone 14 Pro, and an iPad Pro.
I used the Baseus 100W for a while doing three devices and had no problems. I've heard some people have some issues with power sharing. The phone would have to be on a USB A port with that one so wouldn't be max speed charging but still 10-15 watts so not that much slower really. On the Anker you could maximize the charge speed on the phone and tablet and still have enough to do well charging the macbook. I like that the 747 would have a bit of power budget so it won't get as hot charging multiple devices like the Baseus. But also you could buy two Baseus chargers for the price of one Anker... But yeah, no 140W EPR mode.
Yeah, I haven't consistently used it but that is still way too soon to fail for a power adapter. Anker did have some quality control issues with these early adapters, the 140W ones had even more reported failures. Anyway, thanks for reporting!
I'm hoping that you can help me understand and possibly apply the info on your wonderful videos to my goal to pick a good charger that will work on airplanes. Lots of planes have power outlets that turn off if more than 75 watts is pulled. Typically, I'm trying to run just my 60w Surface Pro when on-board. When I get where I'm going, I'd also like to charge my S22 Ultra at 45w. *** Can a charger with over 75w work on these planes? *** Are larger chargers "smart" enough to only draw around the 60w that my computer wants when that's all that's plugged in on a plane, but grab more on the ground when I add my phone and watch?
Yes, that is a great point! You would have to go with a 65W adapter if the limit is purely power. The question is how the limit is set on airplanes. If the limit is set as a V*A limit then most 65W adapters will trip the protection circuit faster than a 100W adapter. This probably changes airplane to airplane. Would have to dig through miles of standards to find if the specification on that and what the options are. If the brick is larger than the rating and the device can pull more than available then the power then it will try to use as much as it can and therefore trip the protection circuit, they aren't smart enough to limit on the AC side. It sounds like there is a market for a middle ground adapter with PFC that won't trip and can use the full 75W rating, about 65W out and not trip a circuit sensitive to V*A also. In terms of software limit, I don't know if there is a PC tool that can limit how fast the device charges as an alternate. 45W charging, then you can charge a phone and watch without worrying about going over the limit.
I'd like you to test leaving a MFI certified cable in one port without anything connected to it and see if it prevents the other port from achieving the max 65w. I have heard that the MFI chip interferes with multi-port chargers because it constantly draws power even while not used, cutting a 65w charger down to 45w even with just one device being used. UGREEN told me that this phenomenon with MFI cables affects their chargers but I'm curious if Anker's PowerIQ 4.0 technology negates this issue
I just verified that it does in fact cut the power down by plugging in a MFI apple cable with nothing else connected. The second port drops to 75W for the 150W charger or 65W for the 120W charger.
Since the Anker GaNPrime 65W is apparently "a new level of suck", what are some decent ones with the same port arrangement and similar features? I know you dislike all the 65W chargers, but you allude to there being "better choices" but I haven't yet figured out what those are. The old Baseus Gan 2 Pro 65W seems to perform better in some ways but worse in others. Most of the time I will just use it to charge a phone (Pixel 7 Pro) and a smartwatch. I could also go with a lower wattage 2 port one, but then I'd need to replace it when a future watch switches from USB-A to USB-C.
Yeah, basically, the 100w Baseus adapters are the best for low power devices and on up. Also, ha, people actually listen to these things.. The GanPrime 65w adapter is a disappointment though, it is a step backwards from Anker's own performance figures on the Anker Nano II 65W. The 65W Gan2 is the next best if you really want 65W. Even Baseus' next gen 65W appears worse. Everyone is striving for one figure, get real power efficiency as high as possible and ignoring the fact that these still plug into AC power. Anyway, I am always on the lookout for which one is going to be the best. I have over 50 more here to test so the quest is far from over.
@@AllThingsOnePlace I didn't see a notification for this reply so I thought you ignored my comment at first. Thankfully I dropped by these comments again for other reasons. 😄 Are you talking about the small single port Anker Nano II 65W or the 3 port 735 Nano II? The problem with Baseus seems to be quality control though, unfortunately. 🙁 Having chargers break within 6 months is not ok, and the rare report or two of it shorting out is of course totally unacceptable. The fact that finding the different models on any of their somewhat "official looking" websites is surprisingly hard isn't great either. Even double checking the specs of a specific model number is really difficult and usually means to end up comparing the product pages of different stores you've never heard of. Yeah, I'll keep checking back to see the upcoming reviews. 😀
@@blunden2 The single port Anker, I haven't looked at the 3 port nano ii. I should switch to the three digit number like Anker did. Yeah, the Baseus website leaves a lot to be desired... all the ones I have are working great but I think it will take time for them to prove themselves out if they do. Anker has improved quality a lot though so reputations can change, they used to be the cheap alternative not so much anymore, ha.
We have used Anker the most both in chargers and USB cables. With that said, most of our Anker USB-A adapters have gone bad. Sometimes within a year, and others after 2 or 3 years or sometimes longer. Have you done any tests, or have any info, on their USB-C adpaters reliability rate?
I don't have anything specific, it's something manufacturers probably guard pretty closely too. It comes down to use and heat for some components, in general in teardowns I've done Anker's have been built safely and with care but whatever components get used I'm not sure, and how long those will last is also an unknown. MTBF analysis isn't so easy, I have a sidebar in the Anker 240W video talking a little about this... scratching the surface.
Hi. What’s the best 40~65w adapter right now? And also can you please tell if 150w adapter can split the charging to give 100 on one port and 30+ on another one? Thank you
Really wish Anker would make the 150w adapter that has an option for a separate power cord so you don't have to plug it directly into the socket, like you can get for the Apple bricks. I guess you can attach it to an extension cord, but that's pretty janky. Suction cups feels like an iffy solution because wall-mount plates can be very different.
Anker is the first company I have seen try the suction cups. You will notice in the video I used a wall plug with a very flat plate. No chance of it working otherwise. I like the wotobeus solution of including both options, flippy plugs and an adapter to extend it as standard, but the 200W adapter I tested gets a little too toasty for comfort.
Hi! Superb video again! I'd like to get a 100w adapter to charge my Asus G14 GA402 laptop while travelling. It has a usb-c port for charging (apart from the 240w barrel port) that requires 20v/5a. I saw that this Anker 737 charger has a little weaker 20 v, do you think this charger will still do the job? You always recommend the Baseus 100w wall charger (CCGAN100US) but from your videos that one also has a weak 20 volt (at overload around 19,193 v). So I guess it would be pretty much the same? Which charger would you choose if you were me? Thanks a lot!
The 100W GaN3 Baseus desktop adapter actually fixed the issue with the lower voltage. I am waiting for an updated version of the wall adapter with better port sharing and power output. They all will deliver 100W if the device can make use of it. There is so much variability device side that it basically comes down to how each device can use the power. I would expect the Anker or Baseus Wall, if the device has a 5 amp current limit to charge 5 watts slower versus a device with a stronger 20V rail.
@@AllThingsOnePlace yeah, I saw that the Baseus desktop adapter has a stronger 20V rail but I want to buy a wall charger which does not have the additional cable. It would be too much hassle to carry it every time I travel. So basically there is no good or bad option in here, basically as far as I see the Baseus 100W and Anker 120W have the same performance. I might just go with the Anker, since they have less problems with the quality department...
I've returned the 747(150w) not sure if it's a dud or compatibility issue with my Samsung wireless charging dock, it'll power it and charge my phone for 3 mins then stops and repeat. Later I test it on two previous Anker chargers 726(65w) and Powerport II(49w) A2321, to check if it's the dock's issue, but the old ones kept the dock powered with no problem. Wondering if anyone have this problem?
Thanks for sharing and that sucks cause this is a decent charger otherwise. I haven’t heard anyone with that issue yet. I did notice occasional blips in my testers which does happen sometimes with various chargers but I never got any drop outs. I wonder if it has to do with the low 20v output…
Thanks for all the amazing videos! I'm looking to charge one iphone 15, a steam deck and a (USB A) Apple watch. Sometimes, a laptop. I'll be using it while travelling but don't really mind size. I'm considering this 120W, or the Baseus 100W. Or maybe something else? What would you recommend?
Una pregunta AllThingsOnePlace... ¿El uso del Anker GaNPrime de 120w podría dañar mi portátil en un corto o mediano plazo?. Tengo incertidumbre si el bajo voltaje que este cargador arroja en el modo de 20V podría ser perjudicial para mi dispositivo. Gracias.
The device decides what voltage to negotiate for, the charger itself won't provide more than the device can use. It should be safe to use even with lower voltage and power devices.
Love the content. I'm wondering if you will eventually test the Anker 737 Power Bank/PowerCore 24k (Ridiculous naming scheme as there is the 737 120W charger)? Would love to see your thoughts on which Battery Pack/Power Bank offerings are the best on the market.
Yep, I will. It is on the way. Someone commented on the naming scheme and I think it is correct. #Technology, # of ports, #(maybe power level). I have a bunch of hybrid adapters too. So, much to do, so little time, haha.
The Anker 150w doesn't charge to 150 watts on one port...So which charger does, from the ones you tested that isn't rated more than 160w and that is actually at the same or better quality than Anker? BTW...why your channel doesn't have millions of subs is mind blowing to me. Absolute quality stuff that no one else on yt comes anywhere close to!
There is only one charger that can charge at 150 watts on one USB C port, the framework 180W. It will only do that with the framework laptop at this time, but it is using the USB PD specification that anyone can use. Thanks! It's a niche. I need to branch out more also YT wants a video a day from startups and I don't have time for that.
Yeah, I have that one in the queue. I need to update the website. I could probably fill in the rest of the year with all the stuff I have in queue hahah.
haha, yeah, I test everything. I've had offers for reviews, where it's like here's the script, only positive things, you can't compare it to any one else, and you can't do any data other than the specification sheet on the web. Then the offer is you can keep the product for payment, insane demands and zero payment, what a great deal!
Note that the Anker 747 has issues charging many Lenovo laptops such as Lenovo Yoga 9i and Slim Pro. I have 6 chargers which are able to charge at 100 watts or more but the Anker 747 is only able to charge up to 13 watts on my Lenovo 9i whereas the rest can charge up to 90+ watts. Apparently there are some compatibility issues between Anker and some Lenovo laptops. These incompatibility issues are also mentioned in reddit by Anker users
Yeah, I guess anker did a software update on newer versions of the charger too. This was to make it steam deck compatible. Only charging at 13 watts is obviously some major negotiation problem.
I already bought the 747 charger and it takes more than 5 mins to distribute 100w for my lenovo laptop, before that my laptop keeps notifying "slow charging speed", I wish I could have read your comment sooner
Would you be able to use one of these chargers to permanently power a HomePod mini (I believe these only require 20w) whilst using the other two ports to plug other devices in as or when needed?
@@AllThingsOnePlace well what is the best alternative for apple 96w power adapter that is in small form and not bulky. The apple adapter not fits most of my admin pouches. I have the MacBook Pro Max 14”. Regards
You make mention of power quality on the AC side. what about the DC side? is it there any leak thru of AC power to the DC side with these things? how much of a concern is there with these in terms of safety for your devices?
Yeah, I mention more of the DC side in newer videos, it is important too. Also, leakage seems to be a growing problem with these adapters, as they allow enough for these thing to be annoying to use in safety standards but it makes the user experience unpleasant so I want to add leakage testing to future videos.
just rxd the 735 charger a couple days ago. Only cost me net $10....now I see it scores poorly in power quality. First video of yours I've seen. Question - is if I use it regularly, will it degrade what's plugged into it? A Surface Go laptop for example.
No, it's fine for the device, it'll just cost a few more percent to operate. Really, it depends on how many similar lower quality devices you have, one doesn't matter much at all.
8 month old video, 65K views, 1.4K likes ... I wish this video and your testing results were more prevalent and popular because I would love to have seen this kind of review on product pages when looking for an adapter that suits me best without screwing me over on efficiency.
@@AllThingsOnePlacecan u retest the ganprime 65w to see if efficiency problem were fixed or not with the newer batch, it is weird that it is the odd one out
Interesting. My 120w EU version, which has the same product number (A2148) has every symbol except the TUV marking (and a CE marking). Do you know what's up with this?
It is highly country dependent which marks get used. I'm not fully up on the EU rules, but the CE mark, a self declaration that you meet general requirements, is all that is needed to sell. A company like Anker does put the work, if it is lacking all the marks that is suspicious.
3:28 I was looking at a 65w purchase, but after seeing you have all these doohickys and then you said it suck, I will skip that purchase and look more towards the 120w. Thanks for the video
Yeah, 120W is the sweet spot in Anker's larger adapter line up.
Man, I really love your content. We need more people like you exposing the real number on these devices so we can make accurate purchases. I really appreciate what you do, hope you keep it up
Thanks. I will.
@AllThingsOnePlace how about the quality of ravpower chargers ?
It may seem unimportant, but showing a full 360 view of these chargers is 1) very helpful, and 2) surprisingly hard to find. I have a Apple Watch charger stick thing that only plugs in one way. For example, it would be upside down on the 120w charger, but right side up on the 150w charger since the usb-a direction is flipped. Thanks, these videos are awesome and truly helpful. Anker’s site nor amazon have front views of these chargers.
Thanks, that is a great point! I actually fairly regularly run into that myself...what do the connections look like, what are the markings on the product. Anker's webpage and user manual don't even mention the silicon sleeve thing (donut). Product photos will be 7 different orthogonal views all essentially the same. It isn't complicated but for some reason it is.
I picked this anker 747 up after watching this video, mostly for travel. After 26 months, 2 months out of their 2 year warranty it died. Anker, your designers deserve a bonus. I seriously only used the 747 for travel, so maybe around 4 trips total over 2 years. Died while charging a kindle, iPad, and phone simultaneously. I think I’m going to go the route of getting several, single port chargers by adding a couple ikea cubes to the stock chargers I already have. Multiport, high wattage adapters just seem too finicky and expensive, for now at least.
huh, yeah, that's too soon for failure. It's the question I pose in the Anker 240W video too, how long are any of these really going to last... you can demonstrate how long by analyzing the components, which aren't premium top end parts and usually stuffed into a place where they get too hot and cause things like early failures, of course it is a totally solved problem but it's a few cents more to make it last longer. There are high reliability designs but even if it's a single penny more, not a single large manufacturer will spec that part. This one works right now and it's cheaper, send it.
Just canceled my 735 order and love your channel now
Ha, yeah, they are pushing that one and it's not amazing. Their own Nano II series is better at power stuff.
I have no idea why you don’t have 1M subscribers. Your videos are exceptional. Keep it up!
Wow, thank you! Titles, icons, talking speed, lack of breaks in the video are some reasons why it isn't bigger, less broad appeal. Also I think YT is having a hard time finding the audience that goes with the channel or there just isn't that big of an audience which is fine. Yes, I am reviewing power adapters mostly, but it is more than that. Anyway, still all good fun so I've got way too many things in the queue for videos coming up.
Wow you are putting out some rare content here man, Thank you so much for this.
Thanks, they're nothing but power supplies but can't seem to find the information anywhere else.
I read somewhere that the numbering scheme is first digit is the series, second number is the number of ports the third, is performance. Good thing I ordered the 150W
I think you are onto something there with the numbering. Although the last number I think is watts. So the nano ii series 30w is a 711. 65w is 715. 100w 736. And you know the 120/150w GaN prime 7. I guess they could have made the 7 an 8 on the 150w.
I've bought 737 120w recently, and its absolutely great charger, my mbp16 m1 charges simultaneously with air m1 with no problem, no overheat. It fact i strongle recomend it instead of original mac chargers. And with next gen type-c iphones, its can be ultimate charger!
Nice! Glad to hear it is working.
@@AllThingsOnePlace thanks to your review!
Serve pra xiaomi 8 lite??
The "something about Anker" is decent prices/reliability and actual support when things go wrong. They're never top of the lot for performance but they're mostly dependable IME
Yeah, they even have some pretty good performance devices now too. I have heard good things about the support side of things also.
1 usb c broke on my charger it has 2 usb c and 2 usb a i contact them amazone they say we are a reseller so we can’t replace the product i got my money back. And we had a door bell of eufy ( anker ) direct from them it broke and they said we can give you a gift card or money back.
Could you break down the 65W for me? I'm a bit confused. So I see you don't really recommend it because it AC line current distortion is bad, lack of PFC, etc...But what does that all translate into for the user? Does it mean that is consumes more power than it needs to? Or does it mean that there's a higher risk of your device getting damaged when being charged by it? Pretend like I don't understand (because I don't haha). So just trying to understand what these technical differences mean in practice. Thanks, good stuff...
Yeah, the numbers are small but basically an uncorrected switching power supply (what the 65W adapter is) is very non-sinusoidal. When I show the graph of current voltage and power you want all those lines to be the same shape (power only flows in so it is always positive). When the lines are different shapes with each other these are harmonics that aren't the same as the voltage waveform. The more different these become the more current has to be moved around to do the same amount of work, work is power X time. More current means more loss (lower efficiency) since all components have real losses. I want the most accurate reading so I measure voltage right at the socket but if you extend that through some household wiring, transformers, etc. you find that the lower wattage (65W) adapter ends up using more REAL power (the kind you pay for) than a power factor corrected model at the same power level. I had a video planned on this but for some reason it never made it into production. That is kind of the trick, and it is a small number as electricity is pretty cheap, at least in North America. I did this comparison for 100W adapters for a video and with cheap electricity it is only a few $ per year but the real cost is worse since everything else in the chain has to be scaled up to handle the extra current. Power grids do this with large correction stations but they pay for the real power those devices consume although they can only do time alignment or phase correction if the wave shape is all that from switching power supplies you are out of luck. This is one reason why datacenter power supplies require power factor correction, also commercial locations pay for low power factor. Hope that helps a little.
@@AllThingsOnePlace Thanks for the detailed explanation, it definitely helps. My biggest concern is regarding device safety. So if I am charging any device (phone/tablet/headphones), I can choose whether I want to do it with this 65W adapter or maybe a 120W or 150W. Now it's clear that the 120W/150W are more efficient from an energy perspective, maybe saving you a couple bucks a year and also better for society as it eases the grid. But in terms of the device itself, is a phone being charged with a 65W without power factor correction more at risk of being damaged or negatively impacted in any way compared to charging with a 120W/150W that does have PFC? That's what I'd really like to know and want to understand, if you could please explain.
I watched some of your other videos and think you do great analysis that's extremely relevant to educated buyers.
@@jonnytu968 From a safety perspective for both keeping the user safe and keeping your device safe Anker devices are actually quite good. They have good safety in terms of electrical isolation. The charging rate is actually determined by the device being charged. So, a 120W power adapter won't force 120w into your phone. The phone/laptop/etc. will decide how much to use.
Great discussion, very interesting
I've been using the 150W adapter for a week now, and I'm overall happy! It's actually quite hotter than I was expecting based on their marketing. The suction cup is weaker than I'd prefer (adapter still falls out when used at one property's old outlets). It reroutes the watts decently when I have Macbook Pro, iPhone, and Watch plugged in via USB-C, but it seems to take 5-10 minutes to figure this out (originally starts charging Macbook with 50W??).
Yeah, the power sharing I noticed would reset occasionally while I was testing and I kind of breezed over the fact that the power sharing details supplied by Anker are quite bad. No idea that one of the ports isn't full output power... Worried about labels ruining the aesthetic but then the finish on the product is rubbish so labels would've been nice. I'm curious if mixing the ports up helps with the power distribution figuring out.
Get a 6 inch extension with ground and that should solve your issue with the falling out (ground hole adds stability)
You have to place it with the wording upside down, it stops it from falling
@@AllThingsOnePlace i think the middle port is best. it does have a little logo of a computer next to it and an amazon review mentions similar issues with power negotiation and how the middle port works best. im kind of annoyed that this is the case tho, and im worried if that port fails then the charger is kinda fucked. might go with baseus or some other 140W one next time.
Hi just bought a usbc screw driver do you see any reason I cant use a 150 watt charger hopefully it would charge faster?
Really love the content and the way you explain everything
thanks!
Whew almost bought that Anker 735 on sale, good thing this person exists! 😆
ha
@@AllThingsOnePlaceoh, have I misunderstood what you've said? 😅 Sooo it's a good one then lmao
Flat out amazed at the quality and education in this video. 👌🏾
Thank you! I always make small improvements in the videos over time and this is the result of that.
The content I am looking for !!!! I got the 150W version and I don't understand why I never get more than 60W when I charge my MBPro and why my phone doesn't charge as fast as when I am in my car :( . The quality of info you provide is just top notch !!! Thanks for your work !
That sounds like the USB cable. The cable will limit power to 60W if it doesn't have an emarker chip in it, cables are usually labelled 100W, or 5A, or 240W or some variation if they can do more than 60W. In terms of car charging, not sure.
@@AllThingsOnePlace Yeah I thought that was the case but I was even trying that same cable with my apple charger and it went to 90W. Also, I tried the MagSafe Cable with my Anker 150W and I didn't manage to go above 60w ... even if my battery was very low on charge (20% ish) :(
@@AllThingsOnePlace Thanks for answering , that's weird because I can charge up to 80-90W using that same cable on an apple charger :() I ll try something else :)
What a great content! It seems though that those chargers are not as PRIME as i thought they would be. However the 150W looks appealing. Thanks for this video, been waiting for it!
I missed the opportunity to use PRIME puns... disappointed in myself now. Such an easy target.
Thanks very much for your time making this video 👍
Glad it was helpful!
I bought the GaNPrime 65W to charge a Steam Deck and it'll display that a "slow charger" warning that it is below the recommended; now I read that applies to the 120W and 150W chargers as well. I emailed Anker about it they said they'll "upgrade the current 9v to 15v to match Steam Deck's charging strategy".
To the current owners of these chargers, Anker gave me two options.
1. Keep the charger, they'll issue a 20% refund (assured that the charger could charge the Steam Deck with no issue)
2. Trade the 735 charger that I have for the upgraded version.
What's your thoughts on the GaNPrime chargers? is the 65W still bad a choice with the upgrade?
It is an odd choice of Steam to go with voltages and currents higher than the PD standard. Really, it should be Steam that fixes the steam deck to be compliant with PD 3.0 or PD 3.1 and not make power adapter manufacturers change their products to be proprietary for steam, that's a bit no... Not that other game handhelds don't do that... The battery voltage in the Steam deck is about 7.5 volts though so I understand making it compatible with anything 9V and up for "fast" charging. If Steam chose the PPS mode it could charge with any voltage and up to 5 amps with any ~45W supporting PPS adapter in less than an hour, with a battery that turns into a small furnace, or with 20V in it could do so and be mildly more efficient (buck converter has to do some work either way). Anyway, the 65W Anker is an okay choice after a software update. The power technology in that versus the 120 or 150w adapters is different enough that it would be much better if they updated those larger adapters. There are better 65W choices but they are all kind of not great. In either case, these anker adapters will do 45W into 15V no problem so I put the blame on steam, also steam deck won't charge that fast anyway (22W max charge rate). So, is it stuck in 9V mode or something? The adapters will still do 27W at 9V.
@@AllThingsOnePlace So from Anker support they state “Normally Steam Deck has a slow charging warning for two reasons: The input power is less than 30W OR Steam Deck didn't choose the PD 15V for charging. The slow charger warning is shown when using the GaNPrime charger because the Steam Deck does not switch to a 15V charging protocol when the charger is connected.”
@@Dragons952 Ah, yeah. Not going to the 15V mode is a problem to maximize charging and powering the device.
So would you say the nano 2 version of the 65 watt is better? Or they’re pretty much the same ?
The nano ii only has one port. It is a little more efficient though. So, they're different.
small suction cups to keep it from falling or getting lose, this is why UK plugs (G type) are the best !! I just imagine how terrible it would wobble around when you want to pull one of those 3 cables out ! This is not an issue with UK plugs. All of that is in addition to the safety feature of having earth connection in all devices.
Yep, hard to argue with that!
Damn. That's my plan out the window. I was planning on getting a 65w Anker to replace my giant laptop charger and to limit the charge speed for better battery health. Guess I'll look at others.
I mean if the goal is battery health then the 65W is fine, I'd get the single port 715 (65W nano II) Anker over the multiport though.
Great video, thank you. I was wondering how theses perform, now I know.
Thanks, I think the larger ones did better than the usual for Anker. The 65W is substantially worse than Ankers own Nano II 65W adapter so no idea what went wrong there...
@@AllThingsOnePlacethe 65 watt uses different parts from lesser known vendors. Both the 120 and 150 watt use Infineon gan parts.
Really appreciate the in-depth analysis.
Thanks for watching!
Thanks for the very comprehensive summary. It helped me with my choice and I went straight for the 737 to have a future-proof and travel-ready device.
Nice! Glad I could help.
Just great work here ❤ Big thanks
You're welcome!
Glad that I researched this first. This testing is super impressive. Sad that Amazon is prioritizing their house brand over others with discounts. Marketing wins big time.
I guess I wouldn't expect amazon to do any different, ha.
I love my Anker charger, they’re reliable, extra port and doesn’t get as hot as the MacBook charger.
That is good to hear. Apple is not pushing the boundaries on that front.
Between the new 100w and the 120w which is the better buy?
The new 100W is better in my opinion.
@@AllThingsOnePlace Thanks just grabbed it for 65 on sale!
Definitely looking forward to the travel adapters.. just bought the zendure recently hope it holds up lol
I don't expect them to do great on the power quality side, it is more about portability and ease of use for those. Can still have a winner of the category though.
This is a wonderful review. Thank you! You should do a collab with ChargerLAB some day - by your powers combined, it's a wholly complete review!
Ha, I've been thinking that, they do the teardown perfectly, I do the technical measurement bits.
From what I can tell, the anker naming convention is 737 (first 7 is generation, second is number of physical ports, last is the output/watts?) See the 543 and 717 as examples supporting my theory.
Yep, then there's the A number, then the name of the product. It looks like the number scheme is to clear things up, then they started using it for power banks so you have multiple products with the same number. It isn't the best thought out system.
Nice and details review, thanks
Glad you liked it!
Thank you for doing this video! Purchase decision made.
Nice! Thanks for watching.
Thank you for a great review!😀
Thanks for watching!
Awesome and unique review. Question. Will the 65watt Anker adapter, with its crap power delivery profile damage phone and tablet electronics or nothing to worry about? Or, simply put, if cost is not an issue, just go for the 747 adapter? Thank you for your time
If cost isn't an issue then the 747 is a solid choice, the 737 isn't bad either. I do use the 747 for laptop use. The 65W adapter won't damage anything though. If you are only using lower wattages (a phone or tablet) the 65W isn't a bad choice.
@@AllThingsOnePlace thanks for the response
Very informative tests! I was looking for a charger for my phone, smart watch, and potentially other devices. I was disappointed that the 65W performed so low. Would you recommend getting the 120W for charging small devices together and/or individually such as phones, smartwatches, wireless buds, and portable consoles (Steam Deck)? I currently don't have large devices that charge via USB-C, so I don't think the 150W is a good idea.
I am currently using Google's 30W charger for my phone, my PC to charge my smartwatch and wireless buds, and the Steam Deck comes with its own charger.
If not from Anker, which charger would you recommend for the uses listed above?
The 120W charger is worth a try. I think the Steam Deck is a little better now with 3rd party chargers, but that's the only one I'd worry about compatibility with. The google 30W charger isn't a bad charger but yeah one port.
8:38 From your table anker 715 nano II is better than anker 65w ganprime 735. Shoud I take the nano instead of the ganprime ? :o
It is true the 715 is a little better. The extra ports are very convenient but if you are only using one port at 65W then they're wasted on the 735 anyway. Personally, the 715 found it's way into one of my portable kits for powering or charging.
I wish I saw this video sooner, I'm using the ganprime 65w, should I keep it? is it safe for my electronics? I mainly using it to charge laptop (all day) and phone.
It is perfectly safe. It is fine for the electronics. It's minor but it uses more current than it needs to, to do the same job. Thanks to cheap subsidized electricity it doesn't cost much more to operate. Basically, 65W adapters all lack technology to 'clean up' the AC power usage so in general I either like smaller adapters (since the impact is more negligible) or larger adapters (because they mostly have correction circuits).
@@AllThingsOnePlace It's unfortunate because the 65w and 67w ankers are dirty cheap on costco and bestbuy with the 30w anker. I don't need one yet so I'll wait. If anker had pps 21v on a single port 65w one for $30- for my pixel 9 xl I'd bite.
Very thorough review!! I still don't understand why the 65W is so bad? Because of the lack of PFC? Making it less efficient? What would be the impact for yearly use?
A small suggestion, I Would like to see the volume to power comparison as well(if possible).
PFC and THD, very high peak current demands (3-4 amps versus 1.5) are all issues. I am thinking of doing a shorts series on each one of these topics individually but in the end, yes, all of these contribute to what I call hidden efficiency loss. The power meter doesn't see it if measured per the specifications because you measure right at the plug so the real efficiency looks very good. Add in typical system components, outlets, wiring, transformers and these non-PFC and non-linear devices can cost a few dollars more per year (electricity is very cheap but as it gets more expensive this matters more) and also it puts load on the grid, that it doesn't want to deal with especially since it is non-linear. Obviously, larger devices mean more loss and more cost. Also high volume devices, there is a reason energy star light bulbs require PFC.
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@@AllThingsOnePlaceI already got the one with 65w, I understood there are power efficiency concerns, but what about safety of use? should I be concerned about using it with my devices?
@@castillo4141 These adapters are safety rated for use in the USA and Canada, so they, within reason, shouldn't be able to cause harm to the user or the device plugged into them.
I’m a little confused… around the 6:02 mark in this video, you say that the 120w & 150w trip out around 105w. Is that just on a single port I assume? Have you been able to get the 737 to put out more than 100w using all the ports? I bought one of these and haven’t been able to get more than 100w out of mine using all the ports and a multitude of different devices plugged in. It also doesn’t put out as much power as the factory 87w Apple charger that came with my Macbook pro. Also the bottom USB-A port only puts out around 13.5w not matter what device I put into it. They claim it does 22.5w. I’m not impressed with the 120w 737….
These power adapters max out at 100 watts on one port. So, the overload trip point is 105 watts. It will do 150 watts on mulitple ports, and the one port will go 5 watts beyond, so 155 watts total. The USB standard is 100 watts, 20 volts and 5 amps on one port for these devices. The next step up goes to 140 watts on one port with the EPR mode or 28V and 5 amps. The 5 amps is a limit of the cables and port itself. Most devices won't support the 28V mode though. The device asks for power, so the device also has to support the protocol. The USB A port supports QC devices, so if you have a QC device it will negotiate more voltage and then deliver 22.5 watts. It's all protocols and standards.
You seem like the most knowledgable person on RUclips when it comes to this kind of stuff. I purchased the 737 120w and when I plug my 15" MacBook Pro into the charger separately usb-c- it draws around 84w of power. I plug my iPad Pro into usb-c separately and it draws around 30w. I plug my ipnone 14 pro max into the usb-a separately and it draws 13w. So that all totals 84+30+13= 127w. I then plug all 3 devices at same time, same exact ports and max the charger outputs is around 85-86w. Doesn't make any sense. What good is the 120w charger? This is a common theme as I saw it several other occasions in testing on RUclips. Something is flawed in Ankers new chargers and you'd be the perfect person to figure out what it is. I also feel the claims being made for the usb-a rated for 22.5w is misleading. Come to find out if you get a phone like a Huawei that is not allowed to be sold in the USA, you can get the advertised wattage but any apple product will be capped at about 13w.
@@scottrodgers1648 Yeah, you can get the maximum power out but it does require a specific circumstance to happen. 60+60 watt. The negotiation with three things plugged in probably dropped to 45+45+22.5 maximum power for the three ports. So, you ended up, with 45, 30 and 13. Yes, it is true that USB A ports are often QC compatible only, they do not have the CC pin in USB C so wouldn't work with PD protocols.
@@AllThingsOnePlace " These power adapters max out at 100 watts on one port...." if thats the case then what would be your perfect choice of charger to charge Anker power bank 737, 140 watts ?
oh wow. I was really about to buy the 65w, now that the holidays sales started. but now I will skip it then. I want something small but with enough power for on the go. I don't want to bring my 275w massive and heavy brick that came with my ASUS gaming laptop, as I don't intend to game on the go, but use it for regular "office" work and/or video streaming. but I need more time than the about 5hrs very light @ low-mid brightness usage that the battery gives me. If you say non-65w are good, then should I look at the lower 45w or so, tiny ones? having the extra ports is nice but not a deal breaker. The other usage I'd give is as a "fast" or more efficient charger to my new iPhone. I bought Anker 100w brick that is big but still bit smaller/lighter than the factory ASUS 275w brick. I wonder if you reviewed it. It's the one with 2 usb-c and 2 usb-a ports, Apple like looking.
I agee i thought the same thing
65W is a tough category because the current draw from the AC side starts to get unreasonable (compared with other devices). They are still real power efficient but that isn't the whole story. In terms of keeping current reasonable and power relatively cleaner the 30W and under category is okay since the current levels are not as crazy and these won't have power factor correction either. The 100W category does step things up a bit in terms of size and weight and usually includes the power correcting features to make sine waves not spikes. Some leave out the corrections which are even worse than the 65W... Everyone's use is different and it is an opinion so if the 65W is the perfect device for you, do it, but hopefully from my video you know it is a little less nice to your AC grid.
Thanks for the test! Interesting to see that Anker does nothing really better than others. Almost a little bit disappointing.
Do you expect any other outcome for adapters with EU plug? A couple of weeks ago I went for a Baseus 100W adapter. I’m wondering wether there could be a difference in performance to the US version. Any thoughts?
The EU adapters would probably score a little lower (not a huge amount but measurable) in general versus US counterparts. The higher peak voltage in general causes the power factor correction circuit to behave less effectively at lighter loads but also causes lower power factor in non-power factor corrected adapters. All the adapters are the same internally, they just put a different plug on the outside. The real power efficiency may actually be higher though since for more voltage in the current in will be lower and current is a major contributor to heating.
Would the 120W be good to use daily? I mean leaving the iPhone charging overnight? I’m just wondering if the power draw will ruin the battery if a phone faster overnight and if I should get like a 5w charger to slow charge my iPhone overnighting incase if this? Or if this will be fine (or perhaps I stop charging overnight). Please if you have any knowledge on what is considered better it would be fantastic to know. Thank you 🙏🏻
Yeah, phones are a lot better now (2022) versus 3 or 4 years ago with both battery and charging technology. The phone decides how much and how fast to charge basically. I personally rarely leave my phone plugged in overnight and I also swap between fast and less fast charging almost every other charge (It isn't exactly that but close), 4 years later battery health is 85% so I think I am doing okay. There is some truth to faster charging causing more degradation of the battery but it depends on the speed of charging and temperature. 5-15W iPhones spend most of their time in is fine. The MAX phones go a little quicker but I don't know if they have something more sophisticated for charging.
@@AllThingsOnePlace For the comparison tables for each charger, where you break down the parameters by percentage of overall power into different columns, can you apply the power factor corrections by percentage across all charging ports and each port's capability (percent of total power for USB C and percent of total power for USB A)? If single port charging for the USB C ports on the 120W and 140W chargers is a max of 100W (it shows up that way on the Amazon listing), if an iPhone spends its time drawing 15W, that's somewhere between your 10% and your 25% columns, and at 10% there is no power factor correction turned on. And the USB A port has a 22.5W max, therefore, 15W is 2/3 of the maximum, and power factor correction is turned on (if the percentage columns can be applied to both USB A and USB C). Or am I missing something? Thank you for testing these chargers and putting the information out there online.
I meant to write 120W charger and 150W (not 140) charger.
@@sarahjohnson7337So, yeah percentage is of total load. The columns are chosen based on the EU 2019/1782 and DOE VI percentage of total power supply load requirements. The voltage is what determines whether power factor turns on. The lowest voltage to get the power out (worst case because of highest current) is always picked for these columns. So, if you enable a PD mode then the charger turns on power factor correction, in the 5V mode it leaves it off. Most phones tend to switch back and forth on 5v/9v and the behavior can get a little complicated, regardless of port used. With these QC (USB A) PD 3 (USB C) enabled devices you are correct that they do not have an extended power range modes so 100W is the maximum a single port can deliver, lower on USB A. I know I needed to clear this up a bit more in this video. Basically, the theme with Anker is if you are charging lower powered devices the active PFC won't be enabled.
I just found your channel and learned about the Baseus chargers. Would you recommend the Baseus over these?
It really depends on your needs. Based on my testing and work with both yes I recommend Baseus 100w chargers (multiport only) but that is because they suit my needs. If 120W then Anker wins. I am daily driving the Baseus adapters. I use both brands though. The Anker Nano II 71* series adapters tend to get use because they are so small and Baseus does not have competition here. Anker is very compelling with these 120/150W offerings though, if you need multiple PPS fast charging Anker is the only way to go!
You mention that the power split across the ports will re-negotiate whenever a cable is connected or disconnected. Does this also occur when one device finishes charging but remains connected?
It is device dependent. But, yes it can. My phone swaps between 9 and 5 volts during charging and when it does it resets the other USB C port momentarily. Not all devices do this though and some chargers have a power limit before port sharing so sometimes won't trip the other port (this is usually on larger adapters).
Hi, Thanks for the amazing content that you offer here, glad i found your chanel, i recently bought the gan prime 120w and when i was a bit close to the brick i heard noice in the charger, i unplugged it and the noise stays in the charger even when its unplugged for about 5 seconds, is this ok ? Or my unit has some manufacturing defect ?
A small whine or squeal is sometimes normal from power adapters. This is usually an inductor that didn't get tacked down quite right or has a slightly different manufacturing tolerance. That isn't a problem. Clicking, popping, buzzing would be considered not normal sounds for power adapter.
Excellent video. Truth, truth, truth. Keep up the great job.
Thanks for watching.
Another amazing video man. I commented on your other video for the power banks. Question: do I need a 100watt or higher power adapter to charge the Anker 737? or can any adapter do it? But then again I'm guessing lower wattage output means it would take longer to charge the actual power bank right? 😩
They'll charge from a 5W apple brick. It'll take a day but it will charge.
Would you go with the anker 737 or the baseus ccgan100us? 🤔
Probably 737.
@AllThingsOnePlace thanks for replying, I actually have both coming, the baseus ccdk100us desk top and the anker 737
At 6:27 you mention the voltage drop, and I think (as someone who hasn't taken a physics class in many years) I understand the overall concept that to get to the goal power of 100W with a circuit that has more losses, you need more current. But that raises a question of, with more current, is it still safe to use?
Is there a way to control how much power each device wants to draw that we are trying to charge (phones, laptops, headphones, power banks, etc.)? Is there a way to control the charging so that you don't get a current overload and damage the device? Are the 120W (737) and 150W (757) Anker chargers safe for something like a M1 Pro MacBook Pro 14 where Apple markets its own 96W charger as the "fast" charger for that laptop if the laptop is trying to get 100W charging from one of the Anker chargers?
Thanks for your informative videos. No one else is describing the chargers from your perspective. I think as a consumer I can tell that a charger feels hot and that is a tangible sign that there is some energy being converted to heat and not being used to charge a device. Ideally, I would like to get a charger that is, above all, safe (not going to damage the device at the charging port of the device, and also not going to overload the charger itself and cause that to overheat and create a fire hazard), but also power efficient both during charging and when it is idle and not charging anything but I've maybe forgotten to unplug it from the wall. Additionally, it would be nice to have a charger that is convenient in the sense that the charger is versatile and has both USB C and USB A charging options for a variety of devices. I guess we all want that ideal.
So, the device decides how much to use already. The device and the power adapter 'talk' to each other, the device says I want 20V the power adapter says I can do 2 amps at 20 V and the device will pull something near that limit. If based around current limit then with an Anker adapter you only get 38W because the voltage drops to 19, in reality with a cable probably 18V so 36W now at that hypothetical 2 amps. If you use a 100W Anker adapter with a MacBook it will negotiate the limit. True on the ideals. Efficiency is complicated in AC but still less heat created is the goal.
eu tenho um Xiaomi 8 lite, quero o anker mais forte pra carregar junto com um Cabo mais rápido e eficiente que seria USB normal ou USBC !!!!
Qual anker e Cabo eu devo comprar???
I have your recommended Baseus 100w but it’s just too heavy for my light style of travel and I need to leave it home . Do you recommend the 735 for travel? If not, what light weight three port alternative do you recommend?
I'm still searching for that adapter. The weight/size difference is really not all that great from a 65W to a 100W charger. If weight/size is really a factor then I'd step down to a 30 or 45 watt charger. Like the anker 511 (30w), 313, 323 something like that.
@@AllThingsOnePlace The problem is that I need to charge my Macbook from it and also have other devices to charge. You would just avoid it? I don't care about extra energy use while traveling, and won't be using the 735 at home. Are there any other concerns with the 735 such as damaging my devices?
@@Sudovest8 No, it is a safe charger to use. From that perspective I don't see any issue.
Hi there. I have seen a lot of your videos the last few days while I am looking a good power multiport adapter for my iPhone 15 pro max , iPad Pro m2 and other camera devices . As I can understand from what you are saying is that the most of wattages the better in terms of thermal . Right ? Will I harm my iPhone or iPad if I charge with a 100w or 120w adapter ? Is there any case to provoke battery damage because of the more heat? Can I connect my iPad to the 65 port safely ? That are my main concerns
The device decides how much power to use, the power adapter can't force more watts into the device. All of the ports on these start at 5V and negotiate up from there. Apple is good about manage battery temperatures so, yes, they will get warm, in the sun they will say charging paused if it's too hot, but they try to maintain a reasonable battery life for the life expectancy of the device.
@@AllThingsOnePlace Thank you for your prompt reply. So. I have found Anker Gan Prime 100W for 45 Euros on sale. Do you think that will be fine or to look for another better charger ?
Regarding the finish of the 150watt, did you make sure it wasn't a film covering?
Yes, it had a covering I peeled off and found that underneath. Not sure why it is like that. The other two were fine.
What adapter gives more than 65W ? Your technical review highly appreciated. It’s sad no consumer protection are active. Your Recommendation also much needed end of the review.
Within this review the 737 and 747 both can deliver 100W on one port.
Hi sir, what brand of model can you recommend 140w or even 200w charger
I have some bigger adapters on the way soon and hopefully they will be better options than what I've looked at so far. Currently, the idmix 140W and the Anker 150W 747 are my top picks.
So if I understand correctly, from your testing; 65w chargers are typically less efficient than 100w chargers. But if a 65w Anker nano II charger is $75aud and a Baseus 100w is $100aud (a difference of $25), is the cost of the inefficiency over the lifespan of the charger (assume maybe 10 years?) really going to justify spending extra $ for a more efficient higher wattage charger when your device is limited to 45w charging anyway? Or would the costs of the inefficiency be negligible? I feel like a lot of people may avoid 65w chargers based on your findings without properly understanding things (myself included) when really the 65w chargers are perhaps not THAT bad? Do you consider it justified financially spending extra $ for a 100w charger when you don’t actually need the extra wattage? Love your work
I wouldn't buy Baseus if it is priced higher. But yeah, if you are charging a 45W device the cost change per year is very small. The issues I've run into with 65W chargers is not enough power or negotiation issues, I recommend the Amazon Basics 65W adapter since it is both efficient and compact, but it is a one trick pony, on the multiport ports drop to low power and then don't charge all my devices. Never had that issue with a 100W charger, always enough even after the power levels drop with lots of devices plugged in. The efficiency boost is a nice plus but probably only worth a dollar or two a year for the time the device actually spends charging. So, cost factors in a lot. If the Anker is cheaper at 65W, that has to weight in on the decision. I've adjusted my newer videos to more clearly take this into consideration.
Thank you again , do you think you’ll be doing the new anker series 7 battery with over 100 watts usbc output ?
I don't know if I have that yet. I have the 140W output one on the way though, probably September or October at this point though.
in another video, you mentioned that the Hyphen X should not be left plugged in... this Anker ganprime can be left plugged in right? how about the Baseus 100W? is that also safe to be left plugged in?
Yeah, the Hyphen-X has a little extra power consumption under the idle condition versus the others. These Anker adapters all had lower idle power consumption.
What is the charging output of the 65W charger when connecting 2 devices? Will it divide the charge evenly? Or will it max the first usb-c at 45W and the second at 15W, or something like that? Do you know the specific output for each port when connecting multiple devices? Thanks
That is the unique feature of these devices. The power will split 50/50 on the USB C ports.
Great channel I just discovered it. I love buying chargers not for testing. I just like having chargers in each room ready to go. You have opened my eyes to the idle power draw. Anyhow, my question is, perhaps you could touch upon charging the Nintendo Switch. I know they don't follow the PD standard correctly, as such almost no PD chargers will say they can charge a Switch. I'm successfully charging my Switch with an older Anker 30w 2 port Powerport PD2 charger, model A2625. It only gives out 5v and 9v on PD, so perhaps I'm just lucky and this is how it is working for me. Do you recommend any current chargers that can potentially safely charge the Switch? I'm looking at the Amazon Basics 2 port 68w charger (USB-C and USB-A).You have not covered this one yet, but I need to have something for a MacBook Air and my Switch. Until now I would always buy Anker but you have shown they are not always the best. Keep up the good work.
Yeah, I try not to get too device specific since so many devices the entire video would be and this device... I focus on the item itself. The PD specification is supported by the nintendo switch dock. I am sure there are different generations of switch at this point also so these could all mean different things. side note the 68W gets a skip rating. I think the issue you will run into is port negotiation as I am not sure how the Switch and MacBook will play with each other on port sharing. I would actually recommend a smaller adapter that can do 15V/3A (maybe Anker Nano II 45W?) specific for that device. This is assuming nintendo switch dock, not a 3rd party, then all bets are off. These all put out 5V until the device requests more than 5V. If you have a USB adapter that constantly puts out more than 5V when not plugged into an end device then it should not be used (some security camera adapters do this, USB C ports are cheap, and these adapters will put in micro print 'not compatible with other devices').
@@AllThingsOnePlace Thank you for the reply, shame the Amazon basics is a no go, I like the two C and A ports, will probably pick up the nano ii 45W then.
Hello, could you please help me choose, I am between the Anker 735 GaNPrime 65W or the Anker 735 Nano II, here in Chile the ganprime costs 45 dollars, while the nano costs 25 dollars. Is there much difference between the ganprime and the nano? Thank you very much in advance, your videos help me a lot
More than one port or multiple ports? The performance of the Nano II is actually better, it is a little more efficient. The 735 was a disappointment compared with the other Anker offerings but if you need more ports it will work. But you can also fit two nano II's in the same space as the 735.
@@AllThingsOnePlace wow thank you very much for such a detailed answer, and yes, I was referring to both 735 with multiple ports, only one has Gan Prime technology and the other does not
Do I need to get special cables for the 120w one to charge a laptop, or can I use the USB C cable that comes with my Pixel 9 Pro XL?
Great video as always!
I'm not sure what they give you with the pixel but one way to find out... The basic requirement is a 100W e-marked cable to maximize one port on the 120W adapter.
I wonder why they didn't include a ground prong.
I am not sure if there is a meaningful safety benefit, but it would definately help hold the adapter in the wall.
Yeah, if it was like the UK plugs with the black plastic ground, it would help a lot for the US outlets. Japan would be out of luck, most outlets are only 2 pins.
Great channel you got going. I'm lost when it comes to the technical stuff but enjoy the information and details that go into it.
I have a question when it comes to the Anker 747 vs the Baseus 100w; two different chargers, I understand. However, I recently purchased the 747 thinking it would be able to fast charge my Macbook Pro M1 (140w), but it doesn't. In your opinion, is the extra 50w on the 747 worth the price over the Baseus 100w? Its main use would be to charge a MB M1 Max, iPhone 14 Pro, and an iPad Pro.
I used the Baseus 100W for a while doing three devices and had no problems. I've heard some people have some issues with power sharing. The phone would have to be on a USB A port with that one so wouldn't be max speed charging but still 10-15 watts so not that much slower really. On the Anker you could maximize the charge speed on the phone and tablet and still have enough to do well charging the macbook. I like that the 747 would have a bit of power budget so it won't get as hot charging multiple devices like the Baseus. But also you could buy two Baseus chargers for the price of one Anker... But yeah, no 140W EPR mode.
Do you have a video for the non GAN versions as well? I was wondering if the normal 735 65w charger was ok compared to the GaN
I think so? I think the series name is different for the non-gan stuff so 5xx.
What do you mean with average power at 8:55?
It is the average power used from 10-100% of the rated power.
I got the 747 (150W) one and it died in 7 months. Mine also has the same inconsistent finish on the front plastic where it looks kinda hazy in spots.
Yeah, I haven't consistently used it but that is still way too soon to fail for a power adapter. Anker did have some quality control issues with these early adapters, the 140W ones had even more reported failures. Anyway, thanks for reporting!
Are there any test spec sheets like this tested with 230 volts for EU power grids?
I'm hoping that you can help me understand and possibly apply the info on your wonderful videos to my goal to pick a good charger that will work on airplanes. Lots of planes have power outlets that turn off if more than 75 watts is pulled. Typically, I'm trying to run just my 60w Surface Pro when on-board. When I get where I'm going, I'd also like to charge my S22 Ultra at 45w. *** Can a charger with over 75w work on these planes? *** Are larger chargers "smart" enough to only draw around the 60w that my computer wants when that's all that's plugged in on a plane, but grab more on the ground when I add my phone and watch?
Yes, that is a great point! You would have to go with a 65W adapter if the limit is purely power. The question is how the limit is set on airplanes. If the limit is set as a V*A limit then most 65W adapters will trip the protection circuit faster than a 100W adapter. This probably changes airplane to airplane. Would have to dig through miles of standards to find if the specification on that and what the options are. If the brick is larger than the rating and the device can pull more than available then the power then it will try to use as much as it can and therefore trip the protection circuit, they aren't smart enough to limit on the AC side. It sounds like there is a market for a middle ground adapter with PFC that won't trip and can use the full 75W rating, about 65W out and not trip a circuit sensitive to V*A also.
In terms of software limit, I don't know if there is a PC tool that can limit how fast the device charges as an alternate. 45W charging, then you can charge a phone and watch without worrying about going over the limit.
I'd like you to test leaving a MFI certified cable in one port without anything connected to it and see if it prevents the other port from achieving the max 65w. I have heard that the MFI chip interferes with multi-port chargers because it constantly draws power even while not used, cutting a 65w charger down to 45w even with just one device being used.
UGREEN told me that this phenomenon with MFI cables affects their chargers but I'm curious if Anker's PowerIQ 4.0 technology negates this issue
I just verified that it does in fact cut the power down by plugging in a MFI apple cable with nothing else connected. The second port drops to 75W for the 150W charger or 65W for the 120W charger.
Since the Anker GaNPrime 65W is apparently "a new level of suck", what are some decent ones with the same port arrangement and similar features?
I know you dislike all the 65W chargers, but you allude to there being "better choices" but I haven't yet figured out what those are. The old Baseus Gan 2 Pro 65W seems to perform better in some ways but worse in others.
Most of the time I will just use it to charge a phone (Pixel 7 Pro) and a smartwatch. I could also go with a lower wattage 2 port one, but then I'd need to replace it when a future watch switches from USB-A to USB-C.
Yeah, basically, the 100w Baseus adapters are the best for low power devices and on up. Also, ha, people actually listen to these things.. The GanPrime 65w adapter is a disappointment though, it is a step backwards from Anker's own performance figures on the Anker Nano II 65W. The 65W Gan2 is the next best if you really want 65W. Even Baseus' next gen 65W appears worse. Everyone is striving for one figure, get real power efficiency as high as possible and ignoring the fact that these still plug into AC power. Anyway, I am always on the lookout for which one is going to be the best. I have over 50 more here to test so the quest is far from over.
@@AllThingsOnePlace I didn't see a notification for this reply so I thought you ignored my comment at first. Thankfully I dropped by these comments again for other reasons. 😄
Are you talking about the small single port Anker Nano II 65W or the 3 port 735 Nano II?
The problem with Baseus seems to be quality control though, unfortunately. 🙁 Having chargers break within 6 months is not ok, and the rare report or two of it shorting out is of course totally unacceptable. The fact that finding the different models on any of their somewhat "official looking" websites is surprisingly hard isn't great either. Even double checking the specs of a specific model number is really difficult and usually means to end up comparing the product pages of different stores you've never heard of.
Yeah, I'll keep checking back to see the upcoming reviews. 😀
@@blunden2 The single port Anker, I haven't looked at the 3 port nano ii. I should switch to the three digit number like Anker did. Yeah, the Baseus website leaves a lot to be desired... all the ones I have are working great but I think it will take time for them to prove themselves out if they do. Anker has improved quality a lot though so reputations can change, they used to be the cheap alternative not so much anymore, ha.
We have used Anker the most both in chargers and USB cables. With that said, most of our Anker USB-A adapters have gone bad. Sometimes within a year, and others after 2 or 3 years or sometimes longer. Have you done any tests, or have any info, on their USB-C adpaters reliability rate?
I don't have anything specific, it's something manufacturers probably guard pretty closely too. It comes down to use and heat for some components, in general in teardowns I've done Anker's have been built safely and with care but whatever components get used I'm not sure, and how long those will last is also an unknown. MTBF analysis isn't so easy, I have a sidebar in the Anker 240W video talking a little about this... scratching the surface.
@AllThingsOnePlace Thank you. Very nice channel you have. Glad I found it.
735 65 coming in at $15 after sale and $5 coupon from best buy. I wanted at least 100w but at this price I might have to get it. Thoughts?
Yeah that's real cheap. If it's going to meet your needs it's worth a shot.
Hi. What’s the best 40~65w adapter right now? And also can you please tell if 150w adapter can split the charging to give 100 on one port and 30+ on another one?
Thank you
What do you think of the Ailkin
I don't recommend those based on ones I have looked at.
Really wish Anker would make the 150w adapter that has an option for a separate power cord so you don't have to plug it directly into the socket, like you can get for the Apple bricks. I guess you can attach it to an extension cord, but that's pretty janky. Suction cups feels like an iffy solution because wall-mount plates can be very different.
Anker is the first company I have seen try the suction cups. You will notice in the video I used a wall plug with a very flat plate. No chance of it working otherwise. I like the wotobeus solution of including both options, flippy plugs and an adapter to extend it as standard, but the 200W adapter I tested gets a little too toasty for comfort.
Hi! Superb video again! I'd like to get a 100w adapter to charge my Asus G14 GA402 laptop while travelling. It has a usb-c port for charging (apart from the 240w barrel port) that requires 20v/5a. I saw that this Anker 737 charger has a little weaker 20 v, do you think this charger will still do the job? You always recommend the Baseus 100w wall charger (CCGAN100US) but from your videos that one also has a weak 20 volt (at overload around 19,193 v). So I guess it would be pretty much the same? Which charger would you choose if you were me? Thanks a lot!
The 100W GaN3 Baseus desktop adapter actually fixed the issue with the lower voltage. I am waiting for an updated version of the wall adapter with better port sharing and power output. They all will deliver 100W if the device can make use of it. There is so much variability device side that it basically comes down to how each device can use the power. I would expect the Anker or Baseus Wall, if the device has a 5 amp current limit to charge 5 watts slower versus a device with a stronger 20V rail.
@@AllThingsOnePlace yeah, I saw that the Baseus desktop adapter has a stronger 20V rail but I want to buy a wall charger which does not have the additional cable. It would be too much hassle to carry it every time I travel. So basically there is no good or bad option in here, basically as far as I see the Baseus 100W and Anker 120W have the same performance. I might just go with the Anker, since they have less problems with the quality department...
You just keep going ha? so greatfull 🙏
Of course... I need to start mixing in more other content though.
Thank you.
No problem.
I've returned the 747(150w) not sure if it's a dud or compatibility issue with my Samsung wireless charging dock, it'll power it and charge my phone for 3 mins then stops and repeat. Later I test it on two previous Anker chargers 726(65w) and Powerport II(49w) A2321, to check if it's the dock's issue, but the old ones kept the dock powered with no problem.
Wondering if anyone have this problem?
Thanks for sharing and that sucks cause this is a decent charger otherwise. I haven’t heard anyone with that issue yet. I did notice occasional blips in my testers which does happen sometimes with various chargers but I never got any drop outs. I wonder if it has to do with the low 20v output…
I had this problem on Anker 726 and I sent it back. Using it on a "Made for MagSafe" charger (C1 port) + Apple Watch (C2 port)
Thanks for all the amazing videos!
I'm looking to charge one iphone 15, a steam deck and a (USB A) Apple watch. Sometimes, a laptop. I'll be using it while travelling but don't really mind size.
I'm considering this 120W, or the Baseus 100W. Or maybe something else? What would you recommend?
I'd probably go Anker, just because they 'travel' a bit better. More compatible with the wider voltage ranges of the world.
@@AllThingsOnePlace Done. Thanks so much for your videos!
Una pregunta AllThingsOnePlace... ¿El uso del Anker GaNPrime de 120w podría dañar mi portátil en un corto o mediano plazo?. Tengo incertidumbre si el bajo voltaje que este cargador arroja en el modo de 20V podría ser perjudicial para mi dispositivo. Gracias.
The device decides what voltage to negotiate for, the charger itself won't provide more than the device can use. It should be safe to use even with lower voltage and power devices.
Love the content. I'm wondering if you will eventually test the Anker 737 Power Bank/PowerCore 24k (Ridiculous naming scheme as there is the 737 120W charger)? Would love to see your thoughts on which Battery Pack/Power Bank offerings are the best on the market.
Yep, I will. It is on the way. Someone commented on the naming scheme and I think it is correct. #Technology, # of ports, #(maybe power level). I have a bunch of hybrid adapters too. So, much to do, so little time, haha.
The Anker 150w doesn't charge to 150 watts on one port...So which charger does, from the ones you tested that isn't rated more than 160w and that is actually at the same or better quality than Anker?
BTW...why your channel doesn't have millions of subs is mind blowing to me. Absolute quality stuff that no one else on yt comes anywhere close to!
There is only one charger that can charge at 150 watts on one USB C port, the framework 180W. It will only do that with the framework laptop at this time, but it is using the USB PD specification that anyone can use.
Thanks! It's a niche. I need to branch out more also YT wants a video a day from startups and I don't have time for that.
Nice vid mate
Working your way through the catalog...
Can you review Anker 733 ? I'm curious on how good is the 65W with 10,000mah all in one combo.
Yeah, I have that one in the queue. I need to update the website. I could probably fill in the rest of the year with all the stuff I have in queue hahah.
Thanks for posting the testing results.. not many reviewers post stats like this instead they just go by their feel..or by sponsors which is the worst
haha, yeah, I test everything. I've had offers for reviews, where it's like here's the script, only positive things, you can't compare it to any one else, and you can't do any data other than the specification sheet on the web. Then the offer is you can keep the product for payment, insane demands and zero payment, what a great deal!
Note that the Anker 747 has issues charging many Lenovo laptops such as Lenovo Yoga 9i and Slim Pro. I have 6 chargers which are able to charge at 100 watts or more but the Anker 747 is only able to charge up to 13 watts on my Lenovo 9i whereas the rest can charge up to 90+ watts. Apparently there are some compatibility issues between Anker and some Lenovo laptops. These incompatibility issues are also mentioned in reddit by Anker users
Yeah, I guess anker did a software update on newer versions of the charger too. This was to make it steam deck compatible. Only charging at 13 watts is obviously some major negotiation problem.
I already bought the 747 charger and it takes more than 5 mins to distribute 100w for my lenovo laptop, before that my laptop keeps notifying "slow charging speed", I wish I could have read your comment sooner
Would you be able to use one of these chargers to permanently power a HomePod mini (I believe these only require 20w) whilst using the other two ports to plug other devices in as or when needed?
Not recommended. With USB renegotiation it will restart whenever you plug something into one or more of the other ports.
@@AllThingsOnePlace thanks!
thanks for this
You're welcome
So is it safe to keep that adapter in wall ?
debatable... Technically, yes.
Thanks
You are welcome.
What do you think about the Mopoint 100W?
It is the same as the 100W Invzi charger. Lacks PFC at all for 100W gets an avoid.
@@AllThingsOnePlace well what is the best alternative for apple 96w power adapter that is in small form and not bulky. The apple adapter not fits most of my admin pouches. I have the MacBook Pro Max 14”.
Regards
Is there a newer version in 2024
I think these have stayed essentially the same. I'm sure there are minor revisions, but they've released newer more capable adapters recently.
You make mention of power quality on the AC side. what about the DC side? is it there any leak thru of AC power to the DC side with these things? how much of a concern is there with these in terms of safety for your devices?
Yeah, I mention more of the DC side in newer videos, it is important too. Also, leakage seems to be a growing problem with these adapters, as they allow enough for these thing to be annoying to use in safety standards but it makes the user experience unpleasant so I want to add leakage testing to future videos.
just rxd the 735 charger a couple days ago. Only cost me net $10....now I see it scores poorly in power quality. First video of yours I've seen. Question - is if I use it regularly, will it degrade what's plugged into it? A Surface Go laptop for example.
No, it's fine for the device, it'll just cost a few more percent to operate. Really, it depends on how many similar lower quality devices you have, one doesn't matter much at all.
@@AllThingsOnePlacecool. thanks for the clarification!
8 month old video, 65K views, 1.4K likes ... I wish this video and your testing results were more prevalent and popular because I would love to have seen this kind of review on product pages when looking for an adapter that suits me best without screwing me over on efficiency.
Yeah, this is probably among the best performance video on the channel too. I obviously agree, but in time. Things grow slow in tech.
@@AllThingsOnePlacecan u retest the ganprime 65w to see if efficiency problem were fixed or not with the newer batch, it is weird that it is the odd one out
Interesting. My 120w EU version, which has the same product number (A2148) has every symbol except the TUV marking (and a CE marking). Do you know what's up with this?
It is highly country dependent which marks get used. I'm not fully up on the EU rules, but the CE mark, a self declaration that you meet general requirements, is all that is needed to sell. A company like Anker does put the work, if it is lacking all the marks that is suspicious.
Is ugreen 200w significantly better than anker’s 150w?
No
@@AllThingsOnePlace thank you