Cheating in any type of tournament, gaming or not should cause legal punishment. Think about it they're litterly cheating in tournaments where getting first could be thousands of dollars. Theft is turned to a felony when above $1000 ( depending the state )
Cheating in any type of tournament, gaming or not should cause legal punishment. Think about it they're literally cheating in tournaments where getting first could be thousands of dollars. Theft is turned to a felony when above $1000 (depending on state)
definitely agree w this concept bc it's js getting worse n worse so it should be more then js a permeable ban that they can js get past n it js doesn't affect them, there needs to be a real life punishment instead of being a pussy behind a screen thinking there aren't any consequences w actions and this needs to be enforced somehow.
Agreed! It’s still fraud lawfully. The only way to stop it is to start charging these losers. And from what I see these people that are cheating are real goofy. They won’t make it in prison. Lmao 🤣
Timmys editor here, not sure if this will get seen but... I blurred out a random name on the leaderboard to visually represent around where hes at. Hope that clears that up haha!
personally, i 100% think cheaters should face legal punishment when they're cheating in tornaments with cash prizes. its theft and fraud, those are criminal offences that should have punishments. especially in today's day in age where the online world is just a prominent as the real world, online crimes should be taken just as seriously as others
The cheater is one of these two Malicooper or linky. Thanks for your truthful video Timmy. I hate all cheaters and I'm in oce. There are plenty of cheaters in all game modes here... Played the game since season 1 chapter 2. I'm on my last nerve with this game nowadays. I loved fortnite before I only played cod. Now I don't know if I want to even game anymore. Sad reality we live in. online gaming to me is like cancer.
You gotta know probably 99% of Fortnite cheaters just do it for fun and just find it fun to steamroll people. As for the people trying to make money from it, it’s for money lol there’s always someone tryna take advantage, and if the money’s easy then ofc they’re gonna do it
One of the players on the leaderboard that was blurred went from a 3.92 kd ratio season 4 chapter 5 to a 16 kd ratio in og chapter 2. The other player went from a 6.9 kd in season 4 chapter 5 to a 14.1 kd in chapter 2 og.
The more ways you have to detect people, the more false bans you’ll get. Reaction time tracking would be easily circumvented by just weighing down ur average, or false ban prefiring, etc.. There’s always going to be a victim of lag spikes, or cheaters just tuning down the cheaters to get an advantage whilst not being obvious. As for hiring real people to watch live gameplay, you need to have game sense and experience in the game to differentiate between really good players and actual cheaters, specially for things like esp. Also, latency and spectator mode sucking are a thing. At the end of the day, cheating in Fortnite isn’t a big deal, it only really affects the game in tournaments where it delegitimizes the competitiveness. Cheaters getting into and winning tournaments is the price Epic pays for having that pipeline for skilled players being able to break into the competitive scene. Otherwise you could just have prize money only for LANs, and cheating is easily stopped at LANs. But since they want new talent to be able to make a name for themselves, they need online tournaments, which are much harder to keep cheater free. They could withhold earnings until a LAN performance, and host more regional LANs, but that’s a lot of money and time, and people wouldn’t be as drawn to competing, since the money is further out of their hands. As for cheaters in ranked/ non tournament play, just move them into a separate cheater only queue instead of banning them, or do banwaves. A cheater only queue lets them have their fun, while wasting their time before they realize it’s all cheaters and bots, and keeps other players’ experience from being ruined. Banwaves can help create problems for cheat devs (if all your customers get banned all at once, and start asking for refunds, or just straight up calling fraud on the transactions, you’re pretty much done). All they need to do is make banwaves happen within the period that people can chargeback. It’s a normal practice in competitive gaming, since it also obscures which update to the cheat is what got them detected. It makes the devs lose their credibility once all their customers are busted too.
The easiest way would just be to detect IP cloaking software and save killcams of any report. You can easily tell from watching replays most of the time. Like when you're doing flips in a car going 90 across the map but someone hits all 10 shots in a row through a tree when they couldn't have seen you. And it's not a bot.
This game is dead, lobbies are full of bots with a few other teams and usually the teams you are playing against are running something... It's a joke at this point
The thing is you can actually choose your response time for triggerbot and cheats like a 130ms response time for triggerbot and a very high smoothing so that as long as you have good crosshair placement you aren't snapping and its almost like legit cheating thats the one thing i feel like wouldn't work that timmy suggested, the response time
when dma was first recognized if people actually go to some profiles and see the pr certain people were not known until a year later certain pros went from 1k pr to 100k pr in a year funny enough this was the same year dma was getting popular
Imagine if Queasy just didn’t know and simply referred to those with good aim in cheating terms without knowing, just thinking it wasn’t wrong at all xD
earlier tonight i got in a cheaters game in ranked reload and he had skins and stuff form last season and idk how he isnt banned yet but he kept no scope headshotting with mammoth pistol mid air the whole game and him alone had 30 kills and his team kills were over 40 and he noscoped me while i was in a bush and he was tracing peopel through walls and he was blatantly aimbotting and i mean really blatant and he might not of been banned bec he might be using a dma or sum so he cant get banned and he was just full rage hacking and tracking and esp and aimbotting it was wild
I’m my past 4 games I’ve ran into 16 cheaters I killed 10 of them and reported all and they all eventually got banned I played a week ago and I just got the msg today that they were banned
If epic started tracking response time, the cheat devs would just add an additional or randomized delay to the triggerbot. Then its fully bypassed once again
If it were that easy, they would. Cheats are being updated daily to get past Easy Anti-Cheat, Riot Vanguard, etc. Epic knows this and won’t actually ban people right away. They’ll wait until a certain time or amount of people using the cheat, then ban them all in a “wave” this is so the cheaters don’t know exactly what they did that got them banned since it could be many variables. Sorry for the long post just trying to give a little more insight.
31:22 Wrong. A lucky shot can be let through - epic games could use AI to analyze everyones gameplay and only ban consistent cheating shots. Hackers dont do a single or couple shots. They do it through most of the game.
This is one of the reason why it isn’t worth trying playing online multiplayer games. You are just trying to have fun or compete and here you got cheaters to deal with.
I think you’re right about your thoughts on cheaters Aussie but I think there are some other more psychological reasons for cheaters on Fortnite as well. I think there are a bunch of Kids on Fortnite who actually love the game a lot, and they would do anything to play with the pros. To feel what it’s like to be in a set lobby, or god forbid grands. I’m sure the majority are doing it for money or clout, but I can imagine there is a solid base of cheaters who don’t have the skill to play in the big leagues but are desperate to do so. I’m always surprised how mechanical a lot of cheaters are. They clearly enjoy the game.
I've always wondered why Epic doesn't just hire these guys, pay them more than they make now, to create an anti cheat. They would have all the know how on how to get around them, so maybe they can fix the loopholes perhaps. Just a thought. But I agree with the AI Anti cheat... that would be smart.
Also American here they didn’t go to jail for cheating on the game his cheats allowed piracy on the switch so you could watch movies and shows and stream music. If people didn’t use it for that he would have not gone to jail. Piracy in America is not a joke
Nintendo don't play when it comes to anything. They're the type of ppl who would sue and shut down an Italian adoption centre because a kid was named Luigi 😂
i agree with you saying about the 1 or 2 week ban. heres where i would extend on that. IF a player you play with gets banned, YOU get a 2 week ban, and now you cant play in that current FNCS. a 2nd time it happens is a 4 week ban, 3rd time is account ban perm. that will stop players playing with people theyve never heard of, or on new accounts etc. harsh, i know, but at the same time, it is what it is. but epic also needs to hire employees to do manual bans, and even figure out their ip addresses, and hell even a letter to that address to inform them about legal action being taken etc, will be enough to stop them from continuing to cheat.
29:47 10ms is 10x faster then 100ms not 1000x like he said. Dumb nitpick of mine for a silly mistake but I found it funny when he exaggerated it so much.
We commented on the video being reacted to already so we will just put a short response here. Some fact from a person who was an admin/moderator in older FPS/TPS multiplayer who spectated and banned cheaters in real time. Cheat sellers don't talk to content creators, they pay easily manipulated, bad actors to talk to trash content creators so they are never exposed, and the trash content creators the paid actors speak to must already be a trusted member of the cheating community before they are even considered to be used to promote the fact that cheat sellers are still selling cheats which only encourages whales from those content creators communities to seek out the cheats in question adding more fodder to the cheat community for cheat sellers to test cheats on, and manipulate/steal accounts, personal information and more from. We said what we said. 🖕 cheaters and 🖕cheat sellers, and 🖕the trash content creators shilling them to their community whales.
Thanks for Watching GOAT :)
Does the goat respond?
@@nicholasschwenk4501I do bro
You're still severely underrated.
Nah why does a boy have more likes than you??
w vid as always
Cheating in any type of tournament, gaming or not should cause legal punishment. Think about it they're litterly cheating in tournaments where getting first could be thousands of dollars. Theft is turned to a felony when above $1000 ( depending the state )
Cheating in any type of tournament, gaming or not should cause legal punishment. Think about it they're literally cheating in tournaments where getting first could be thousands of dollars. Theft is turned to a felony when above $1000 (depending on state)
definitely agree w this concept bc it's js getting worse n worse so it should be more then js a permeable ban that they can js get past n it js doesn't affect them, there needs to be a real life punishment instead of being a pussy behind a screen thinking there aren't any consequences w actions and this needs to be enforced somehow.
@@Theunicorn2012 ....
And they should have a nice cell mate named Bubba. Not just fines.Jailtime is not ridiculous. F yeah Nintendo....game on.
Agreed! It’s still fraud lawfully. The only way to stop it is to start charging these losers. And from what I see these people that are cheating are real goofy. They won’t make it in prison. Lmao 🤣
Timmys editor here, not sure if this will get seen but...
I blurred out a random name on the leaderboard to visually represent around where hes at.
Hope that clears that up haha!
oh makes sense lmao
surely that’ll just make it seem like the person you blurred out is cheating?
😂
That was stupid, dude. People are already posting the names and telling people to report them.
But you might have ruined those peoples future in Fortnite
BAHAHA The funniest part is when the cheater said he doesn't play zero build cause he just dies to cheaters BAHAHA
6:27 LOL BRO CHEATED IN MARIO PARTY😭🙏🙏🙏
Going to jail for cheating in Mario game is wild
it wasnt for cheating it was for developing software that alolwed people to steal switch games for free
Do not fug with nintendo😂
Going to jail for cheating in Mario game is wild
@@Theunicorn2012 try it
personally, i 100% think cheaters should face legal punishment when they're cheating in tornaments with cash prizes. its theft and fraud, those are criminal offences that should have punishments. especially in today's day in age where the online world is just a prominent as the real world, online crimes should be taken just as seriously as others
10:53 ts was so funny 😂😭
Love the react antics vids ❤❤❤
Holy glaze
I’m messing I love them too❤❤
@@TrollaOozy Zip it up when you're done
@@TrollaOozy Jk i looooove aussie antics
17:55 the Lachy disrespect is crazy
Bros voice at 6:20 is crazy
ominous ahh
sounds normal
Ikr
"Mabey it's me chat" lmfao 😂😂😂
The cheater is one of these two Malicooper or linky. Thanks for your truthful video Timmy. I hate all cheaters and I'm in oce. There are plenty of cheaters in all game modes here... Played the game since season 1 chapter 2. I'm on my last nerve with this game nowadays. I loved fortnite before I only played cod. Now I don't know if I want to even game anymore. Sad reality we live in. online gaming to me is like cancer.
Imagine being so rock bottom in your life that you decide to cheat on fortnite. 💀
You gotta know probably 99% of Fortnite cheaters just do it for fun and just find it fun to steamroll people. As for the people trying to make money from it, it’s for money lol there’s always someone tryna take advantage, and if the money’s easy then ofc they’re gonna do it
Epic allows top streamers to cheat which is just laughable, but then to play for money using cheats is egregious.
The guy at 3:52 is VT Matty he's the top 1 aim player in the world
He is insane. Nice of you to point him out actually Goated!
I already quit because of it. Marvel Rivals is fun for now. I just flip the "no PC cheater toggle" on. It's like magic.
it goes a whole lot deeper than that. There's a sad side to it and a more corrupt one. This is the truth.
the amount of cheating is fucking unbelievable.
fortnite is becoming a arms race for the best cheats from aimbot to storm esps to predict storm so we might be cooked
"sorry false negatives", you were right the first time 😔
Epic needs to have 0 tolerance towards cheaters and those who intentionally play with cheaters!!
Hey Aussie love the vid and I have full proof of pilat doing the solo strat lol
The anonymous hacker is either Malicooper or Mancity linkyfv!
Yup, I checked too, he is correct ^
and wth is this anonymous face, kryfalse alr did interview with this dude
they are both still playing tournaments to this day aswell
report them
where did you get that from? The leaderboard in the vid just had random people blurred.
Already has. Me and all my playing group are sick of it and pretty much not playing anymore
I've had the name BlazeFn for the last year, and I just now find out that this man's a hacker, damn bro
WOW THATS SO COOOOOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!
idgaf
@@m1kozzfn Okay, then stfu and keep your opions to yourself :)
31:40 thanks for mentioning that people are always so delusional on other angles especially in Fortnite 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
It is hella unmotivating to be close to qual and get fully hacked on
One of the players on the leaderboard that was blurred went from a 3.92 kd ratio season 4 chapter 5 to a 16 kd ratio in og chapter 2. The other player went from a 6.9 kd in season 4 chapter 5 to a 14.1 kd in chapter 2 og.
Ironic that while i was watching this i got killed by a cheater
it should honestly be like jail time if u cheat in a game
6:20 got me dying😂😂
The more ways you have to detect people, the more false bans you’ll get. Reaction time tracking would be easily circumvented by just weighing down ur average, or false ban prefiring, etc.. There’s always going to be a victim of lag spikes, or cheaters just tuning down the cheaters to get an advantage whilst not being obvious.
As for hiring real people to watch live gameplay, you need to have game sense and experience in the game to differentiate between really good players and actual cheaters, specially for things like esp. Also, latency and spectator mode sucking are a thing.
At the end of the day, cheating in Fortnite isn’t a big deal, it only really affects the game in tournaments where it delegitimizes the competitiveness. Cheaters getting into and winning tournaments is the price Epic pays for having that pipeline for skilled players being able to break into the competitive scene. Otherwise you could just have prize money only for LANs, and cheating is easily stopped at LANs. But since they want new talent to be able to make a name for themselves, they need online tournaments, which are much harder to keep cheater free. They could withhold earnings until a LAN performance, and host more regional LANs, but that’s a lot of money and time, and people wouldn’t be as drawn to competing, since the money is further out of their hands.
As for cheaters in ranked/ non tournament play, just move them into a separate cheater only queue instead of banning them, or do banwaves. A cheater only queue lets them have their fun, while wasting their time before they realize it’s all cheaters and bots, and keeps other players’ experience from being ruined. Banwaves can help create problems for cheat devs (if all your customers get banned all at once, and start asking for refunds, or just straight up calling fraud on the transactions, you’re pretty much done). All they need to do is make banwaves happen within the period that people can chargeback. It’s a normal practice in competitive gaming, since it also obscures which update to the cheat is what got them detected. It makes the devs lose their credibility once all their customers are busted too.
The easiest way would just be to detect IP cloaking software and save killcams of any report. You can easily tell from watching replays most of the time. Like when you're doing flips in a car going 90 across the map but someone hits all 10 shots in a row through a tree when they couldn't have seen you. And it's not a bot.
Its only a problem if it effects pro fortnite players.
for anyone wanting to know, the person who is being interviewed was either malicooper, or mancity linky
The cheater was either Malicooper or mancity linkyfv!
This game is dead, lobbies are full of bots with a few other teams and usually the teams you are playing against are running something... It's a joke at this point
ofc the pro player know who they play cups with , like he said if you cant beat them, join them. fortnite wont die tho,
Who else agrees that Fortnite should do zero earnings cups where people without earnings play during major tournaments?
Me, absolutely!
The thing is you can actually choose your response time for triggerbot and cheats like a 130ms response time for triggerbot and a very high smoothing so that as long as you have good crosshair placement you aren't snapping and its almost like legit cheating thats the one thing i feel like wouldn't work that timmy suggested, the response time
when dma was first recognized
if people actually go to some profiles and see the pr certain people were not known until a year later certain pros went from 1k pr to 100k pr in a year funny enough this was the same year dma was getting popular
Let’s go the goat posted again
This month i got 3 " thank you " screen after a report. poor mecs.
btw the blured people on the leaderboard were malikooper and linky
Imagine if Queasy just didn’t know and simply referred to those with good aim in cheating terms without knowing, just thinking it wasn’t wrong at all xD
Think I’ll be the first to ask. When is Epic going to hire Aussie and use his ideas 😅
earlier tonight i got in a cheaters game in ranked reload and he had skins and stuff form last season and idk how he isnt banned yet but he kept no scope headshotting with mammoth pistol mid air the whole game and him alone had 30 kills and his team kills were over 40 and he noscoped me while i was in a bush and he was tracing peopel through walls and he was blatantly aimbotting and i mean really blatant and he might not of been banned bec he might be using a dma or sum so he cant get banned and he was just full rage hacking and tracking and esp and aimbotting it was wild
I’m my past 4 games I’ve ran into 16 cheaters I killed 10 of them and reported all and they all eventually got banned I played a week ago and I just got the msg today that they were banned
If epic started tracking response time, the cheat devs would just add an additional or randomized delay to the triggerbot. Then its fully bypassed once again
Number 1 rule has always been leave the Nintendo out of it or you will be sued
the aikming guiy at 22:05 is mattyOW known aimer and coach and one of the most prominent aimers in voltaic or the community in general
Ain’t no way they interviewed mirrored
10:53 btw aussie he just blurred a random one not specifically the hacker
He was better off not doing anything if that’s the case why would you blur a random team name😭
@ just a template ig but yeah true
Why does no one ever bring up macros; which almost every pc player currently uses..
Macros don’t help anything
@LawsOnJoystick You play on pc..?
@@slejandroaanchez2071 yes mate
Don't worry cheating won't kill fortnite Epic will do it themselves
HI Epic. If you see this, I work in IT already. Hire me, I'll work from home, and I'll comb through tournament replays to find, and perma ban hackers.
the Nintendo lawsuit was from piracy not from cheating
They need to bring back anti-cheat with it being the strongest system to ban cheaters immediately in games and lobbies! ❤😊👀
If it were that easy, they would. Cheats are being updated daily to get past Easy Anti-Cheat, Riot Vanguard, etc. Epic knows this and won’t actually ban people right away. They’ll wait until a certain time or amount of people using the cheat, then ban them all in a “wave” this is so the cheaters don’t know exactly what they did that got them banned since it could be many variables. Sorry for the long post just trying to give a little more insight.
@InvizibleFPS it's fine bro you explained it well👍🏽
31:22 Wrong. A lucky shot can be let through - epic games could use AI to analyze everyones gameplay and only ban consistent cheating shots. Hackers dont do a single or couple shots. They do it through most of the game.
This is one of the reason why it isn’t worth trying playing online multiplayer games. You are just trying to have fun or compete and here you got cheaters to deal with.
thats why i main brawl stars. literally impossible to cheat
I think you’re right about your thoughts on cheaters Aussie but I think there are some other more psychological reasons for cheaters on Fortnite as well.
I think there are a bunch of Kids on Fortnite who actually love the game a lot, and they would do anything to play with the pros. To feel what it’s like to be in a set lobby, or god forbid grands. I’m sure the majority are doing it for money or clout, but I can imagine there is a solid base of cheaters who don’t have the skill to play in the big leagues but are desperate to do so.
I’m always surprised how mechanical a lot of cheaters are. They clearly enjoy the game.
One word Jail
The Unknown hacker reminds me of Npen
I've always wondered why Epic doesn't just hire these guys, pay them more than they make now, to create an anti cheat. They would have all the know how on how to get around them, so maybe they can fix the loopholes perhaps. Just a thought. But I agree with the AI Anti cheat... that would be smart.
Also American here they didn’t go to jail for cheating on the game his cheats allowed piracy on the switch so you could watch movies and shows and stream music. If people didn’t use it for that he would have not gone to jail. Piracy in America is not a joke
if only Activision was this serious
Fr
Cheating won’t kill Fortnite because if cod hasn’t died yet Fortnite won’t
@@cooperellis3412 yah that was my thought process as well, great minds think alike
For anyone wondering the hacker is a guy called "Malicooper"
sure a prefire could look like fast response time, but 10, 20, 30 of those in a row... insta ban.... like what?
I didnt know xim was a thing until recently as well. Im sure kids are using those as well.
Doubt that cause xim is extremely easy to detect
i didnt know about it either, i thought those were all gone after zens were banned
zb is actually hell with cheaters bro😭
11:20 😂
8:00 IS Repulsegod its a oce pro player he also got banned on lan
i watched rise watch him talk about playing with a cheater
the “anonymous” cheater is malicooper
Nintendo don’t play when it comes to this stuff.
Nintendo don't play when it comes to anything. They're the type of ppl who would sue and shut down an Italian adoption centre because a kid was named Luigi 😂
1:32 W dolla free build
That latterly lestripz as the hacker that sad😂
Anyone just seeing hackers live on tiktok
my response time is 96ms but ive been training it since 2020
i agree with you saying about the 1 or 2 week ban. heres where i would extend on that.
IF a player you play with gets banned, YOU get a 2 week ban, and now you cant play in that current FNCS. a 2nd time it happens is a 4 week ban, 3rd time is account ban perm. that will stop players playing with people theyve never heard of, or on new accounts etc. harsh, i know, but at the same time, it is what it is. but epic also needs to hire employees to do manual bans, and even figure out their ip addresses, and hell even a letter to that address to inform them about legal action being taken etc, will be enough to stop them from continuing to cheat.
29:47 10ms is 10x faster then 100ms not 1000x like he said. Dumb nitpick of mine for a silly mistake but I found it funny when he exaggerated it so much.
the cheaters name is mirrored btw
Some esps also tell you what the person is playing on eg nintendo switch
Nah bro martoz got his peak stolen by khanada
We commented on the video being reacted to already so we will just put a short response here. Some fact from a person who was an admin/moderator in older FPS/TPS multiplayer who spectated and banned cheaters in real time.
Cheat sellers don't talk to content creators, they pay easily manipulated, bad actors to talk to trash content creators so they are never exposed, and the trash content creators the paid actors speak to must already be a trusted member of the cheating community before they are even considered to be used to promote the fact that cheat sellers are still selling cheats which only encourages whales from those content creators communities to seek out the cheats in question adding more fodder to the cheat community for cheat sellers to test cheats on, and manipulate/steal accounts, personal information and more from.
We said what we said.
🖕 cheaters and 🖕cheat sellers, and 🖕the trash content creators shilling them to their community whales.
i noticed in the artice that the guy who sold cheats got 3 years in jail, he also got $15m in fines also, 6:05
The nintendo guy wasnt selling cheats but like jailbroken consoles to get free games
if there closet cheating no one is using triggerbot at 10ms i used to do it at 150ms and it prefired fine
3:19 "most games have adapted and have built in cheat detectors" but they suck
Like every COD game ever 😂
Anyone from OCE knows who the anonymous source is without even checking the leaderboards
Who
The cheater was Maloxty2210😂
The answer is yes
Yes yes
I’ve never ran into a hacker on Fortnite
I’ve gotten my earnings sold countless times by cheaters 2nd place
Its the owner of Kartoxa😂
who is???
@@monkeynotloaded977 the people timmy is interviewing is the owner of the biggest dma server kartoxa
The cheater in the video who was the source is either Malicooper or Mancity linkyfv!
All the hints to who this person could be are probably not correct
@@Monxrchyfn you'd never know it could be anyone apart from the top 10
@@jeack543 that’s litterally what I just said
@@alenangel5224 and in the video Timmy said it wasn’t cooper and there is no way he just gives away it being linky
@@Monxrchyfn nah u said that there isnt enough proof that its malicooper but i was saying u could never know who it is
The guy is Malicooper in mancity linkyfv
does anyone know who the cheater that hates cheaters is?
The aim trainer was MattyOW
0:41 kirillian doesn’t cheat right?
so erm.. how do I uhm- how do I join their community- for research-