For the average homeowner, the green works is a cheaper option than renting,picking up,dropping off of the industrial machine or paying someone to do it for you.😁👍👍
Im the guy you phone and im still showing up using one of these looking for your plugin,,, what would you rather wrangle around all day something that weighs 20lb or something that weighs 100 lbs?? if i break it i throw it away and buy another one.
The Green Works dethatcher (power rake) worked great for me. I was surprised how much dried up dead grass it pulled up. Once I was done I picked as much as I could with the mower bag. Then I raked up the rest and put down some grass seed. I watered twice a day when it wasn’t raining and now my lawn looks great. I have about an acre of lawn. The Green Works dethatcher made the toughest part of the job much easier. It’s worth every penny.
Eh Ginja...I am so glad you did this comparison video. I might just pull the trigger now and get one myself too. BTW ... that was an EPIC introduction to the video ... you cracked me up 😂😂😂.
you wont regret it man, im working on *paying* for my commercial dethatcher with one of these its on its second season now and going along just fine (do NOT STOP MOVING while its turned on)
I was feeling all inferior with my Greenworks after watching your last de-thatching video with that awesome Bluebird and then you go and come out with this video!? Nice work brother you have redeemed my faith in my Greenworks purchase and I still envy the Bluebird.
Okay, I just bought one off Amazon because of your video review...based on the merits...I swear it wasn’t because of the lady with the tomboy shirt jumping up and down.
I bought one a 2 years ago for around $80 and love it. It does take a little longer, but I no longer have to rent and haul a machine. I can do it on my schedule. It comes with a whole second set of teeth and after 2 seasons of use on a 8k sqft lawn it has been flawless and no broken teeth.
I used my new unit this year. I am happy to give it an A!!! This little guy does the job perfectly, sold my gas powered Classen, and I am glad I did. I use a heavy 12 gauge cord, no backing up, just forward movement. No gas or battery related problems. I can’t find one negative comment to make about it. By the way, Great video!!!
Got my Greenworks last year and used it on my 8,000 sq. ft. lawn. It worked very well. I hauled away 12 barrels full of dead grass. One note... after I finished the job I removed the black cover on top of the unit. It covers the motor and drive belt and has cooling holes in it. The area underneath was packed with dead grass. This should be removed before the next use to increase efficiency and decrease the chance of overheating. Nice little machine!
Heya, Ginja! Thanks for the side by side review here. For the price of two rentals, even with having to walk 33% more, I'm pretty sure I'm gonna be happy with this thing.
I have the Sun Joe version of this and I have been very happy with it. The Sun Joe runs about the same ($120) but comes with the spring loaded tines like on this one but also with a metal bladed head that cuts a little deeper. On any of these units I'd recommend buying the 3 year extended warranty for $15 just because you are going to beat on it and it will die.
@@pestandlawnginja Yep, plus the extra set of tines Greenworks includes. The only reason I haven't made up my mind is the SunJoe comes with a "scarifying" tool. Supposedly cuts into the soil, like a mini aeration, but how useful it is I can't find.
I love your reaction to the performance. Almost word for word surprise that I showed as well. Also, an identical comment made to my wife, “if I use it twice and toss it I break even” over renting twice a year.
Hey Ginja, I was going to rent a dethatcher at Home Depot until I saw your video. For the price of renting one twice at Home Depot I bought the Greenworks . WOW!!! This thing is a beast!! Thanks for the heads up.
I have rented a dethatcher from Home Depot the past 2 years in late Summer. Each time, the units looked brand new with Honda engines. Each year if the unit angles toward the gas tank side it would cut out. So I would only be able to go in one direction on the sloped portion of my lawn. Really a pain in the ass. I'm ordering the Greenworks today. Even if it doesn't perform as well as the gas rental unit, I can see it will take one extra pass to get there.
I'd like to see these compared to the dethatching mower blades. If those work well it could really save a lot work by being self-propelled (depending on your mower) or shortening the cleanup step.
Thanks, good comparison. I recently bought a Sun Joe and was impress how well it. I was curious how it would compare to a professional tool like the Bluebird. I've never used either. I considered the Greenworks but went with the Sun Joe because of higher amp motor and the unit came with the spring loaded tines and a scarifier. Appreciate the video, thanks !!
Just ordered one through your link. The side-by-side with the Blue Bird really convinced me. I rented a Blue Bird last spring and was pleased with the results but all the hassle with the renting, the hauling, the weight of the machine...I’m willing to take a flier on the GreenWorks. Thanks.
Bought one last fall do do my yard, I am a Prime member so if it sucked I'd send it back. For the homeowner it is an awesome little tool to have. Not sure how well it would work commercially. I'd buy it again in a heart beat.
You won't get it for that prize on Amazon right now. But you can at the Greenworks web site directly. www.greenworkstools.com/10-14inch-corded-dethatcher-349
I have a Bermuda lawn, my mower only allows me to scalp at 1.5 inches so once my green grass is growing and being mowed, I still see tons of old dead brown grass. Would this be a good option to get rid of that?
The real thing that would've been nice to see that you completely skipped was, what do the little springs look like after the 1 use (3 passes)? How many are broken or missing if any at all. That is the question to how well it held up. If all the springs are broken and its completely worn out after 1 use, is it really worth the purchase?... Missing a critical part of the review.
In the Dallas/Fort Worth area they don't seem to sell these in store. Is this something that is not common to use in my area for some reason? Was thinking about buying one.
I bought a Sunjoe to scarify my lawn for overseeding and I was amazed at how well it works! The thing looks cheap, but the electric motor doesn't bog down at all, not even on the its lowest setting. It cleans up easyily and doesn't take too much room in my over-crowded garage. Much better alternative to the hassle of renting a power rake! The overseeding, btw, came out great and I attribute that to grooves cut into the turf by the scarifier. Thanks for the recommendation!
I'm glad to see you thought the electric was worthwhile. My long cord was 1/2 the price of the machine, I wanted to make sure I didn't trip a circuit because of the amps the motor pulls and resistance of a long cord. I bought my de-thatcher with the exact economic argument you had - if I get two uses out of it it was probably better than renting a commercial machine one time (one use so far). On a larger yard it is a hassle running the cord around trees and things. Cord management has to be the biggest hassle of using the electric machines. Thanks for the fun intro. Maybe some thoughts on edging in a future video - whether to, hows and whys?
The cord issues.... ugh. Yes that was annoying. But just an oversight compared to value a s functionality. Ill put your edging idea on the ideas list. Great idea.
I have both as well - the one thing with the electric is when you get to a grass with stolons (I had a few bad patches of creeping bentgrass), they get tangled around the drum and the outside bushings, causing the machine to quit. That happened a few times until I decided to jump on a used bluebird power rake. The flail blades don’t care about stolons (or anything else), and just power through it all. In addition, thick dead grass can overwhelm the electric unit. That said, it is lower maintenance and cheaper. Stores on the wall too.
Great review! I have one and have used it for 2 seasons to use before overseeding. I got it based on reviews on Ryan Knoor's channel and other positive reviews. I'm 67 years old and I didn't want my death certificate to list "cause of death- thatch rake". Hopefully the Greenworks and I will grow old together!
Great comparison! Used it this weekend and was really surprised how well it worked. It cost the same amount to rent the gas powered one and it did to buy this machine. Super happy with the purchase. Now it's time to overseed and thicken up that KBG!
Great video, Ginja! Really appreciate you going through the back-breaking effort of this comparison for your followers. I grabbed the Greenworks dethatcher last fall when it was on sale for $86. It's been a heck of a machine. Between my parents and their neighbors lawns, I probably have close to 11k sqft on it. It has easily paid for itself. Keep up the great work 🤙
I was literally just watching your last video wondering how that beast would compare to the greenworks. Thanks for the video. Keep up the awesome work Ginja!
With the new one, I'm curious to see how long those spring tines last before bending or getting out of shape. For the cost, little extra work, less settings. Should almost be a step in between each setting, for better depth control. 2 passes with the other and you could see the difference in color immediately. Couldnt really go by the video, but how loud was the Greenworks?
Love Your Vid Ginja! Always making me laugh to almost crying. Your St. Patrick Day one was off the Hook!!!! Keep it up Funny and awesome content, learned a lot from You!
Im a Lawn Care guy and i use one of these because its much lighter and easier in my truck,, no renting and does just as good of a job(for a little extra time, that is unless you have 3 guys using them because they are cheap enough to just buy one for every guy.).
@@pestandlawnginja another good reason to have it in the truck is because you can hang it on the wall and if a customer wants a dethatch out of the blue you can pull it off the wall and do it for them no sweat.
Greenworks need to pass 10% straight into your mit.. I think sales are going to go through the roof after this video that's very interesting. David knocks Goliath spark out well done 👍👍👍
I've had mine for 4 years now, my bro-inlaw uses it more than I do, lol. He loves it, I've been lucky the past 2 years I haven't had much of any thatch. But it's a beast for the money and ease of usage. 👍 💪
Looks like an awesome little machine! I stumbled across it this morning on Amazon while searching for a 'verticut' mower. Question: What is the difference between "thatch" and just "dead grass"?
Great question. I would use a flail based machine and not the tine based machines. from what i've heard the tines grab onto the stolons and get wrapped up around the barrel.
So what would you say is fair for a lightly used greenworks de thatch machine should cost. I found one exactly like the one in your vid for $50. Worth it?
can this greenworks rake the moss up? my lawn has a heavy moss i used scotts MossEX and tested it in a small area and it killed the moss beautifully.. if the greenworks can rake the dead moss up would be perfect
@@raymondvo7758 I've seen one that might do the trick. It's a lawn sweeper. However the grass would have to be cut super short and you'd the the heavy duty machine not a residential machine.
The metal blade that was included with my greenworks will dig out moss. But. It digs up everything else. I use mossx early spring 2 passes with a sprayer and it keeps it at Bay.
I have the same one and used it for my scalp on my bermuda this year. My mower only drops to 1 inch so having this allowed me to loosen all the dead grass first. I was really impressed. My neighbors thought i was really weird though.
On point comparison video, thanks. 👍🏼🌱 I have used both and I think the Bluebird does a better job quicker but for those like me that don’t own one it becomes a pain to rent it. I’m torn... So, for your Spring thatching on your lawn which one are you pulling out?
Just a heads up, I believe they all come with the wrong instructions. Level 1 or low, is the most aggressive, the tines go approx 10 mm into the ground, and should NOT be used for transporting like they mention on the instructions. Level 3 or High, is the least aggressive, or 1 mm into the ground, and should be used for transporting. The instructions say High is for going 3/8" into the ground which is the exact opposite of what is happening. Think Low - low down into the ground, and High - high up barely scratching the surface of the ground. I attempted to remove the wheels to and adjust them so that they follow the directions that are printed on the side but the wheels only work one way. So just ignore the instructions. Wish Ryobi would make a 40 volt version of this to match all my OPE. Cords are the worst.
Thanks for the videos! I purchased the larger, newer version of this power rake but long story short, the Amazon vendor tried to say I received it when I didn't... Out of stubbornness I just dethatched half of our front lawn with my groundskeeper II rake. Don't get me wrong... it's an amazing rake. But if you have to rake anything close to 1/4 acre you have your work cut out for you. I watched this video again and grabbed a corded one directly from Amazon so I can hit the other half of the yard 🚀 I wanted to spring for the only bluebird available on Craigslist but they're asking $1200...
Dude I bought the greenworks directly from amazon for 50 some odd bucks in off season... I’m not surprised price has gone up, slammed it to lowest setting and it works great on Bermuda. Be careful to get the right rated extension cord is my only advice to future owners.
Nice comparison video. Did you adjust the depth on either one after each pass? I've had the green works for a few years. The wheels rattle pretty loud now but it still does the job so I can't see replacing it. The plastic had since worn out and can't tighten our fix them.
Done told you.... get a classen with the spring tines.... lol... actually anything with those Honda engines are good... I just like my classen with the foldable handle and spring tines.... also use a strong blower to make the piles.... makes life a whole hell of a lot easier! Raking a big yard after thatching it and you don’t want to finish!!!
Ugh. Not what I’m looking for. Did the search on “sod remover” and it brought this up. At the very least, I thought it would be like a tiller. What is the purpose of doing this? Not being smart, I’m dead serious. Just started gardening three years ago and this makes me think this is why some people have suck stiff grass - that’s so close to all the same hight. Like a high-and-tight for the yard lol
I have a Sun Joe and works great. I have used gas powered and it just beat the hell out of the grass.. The company doesn't show how to replace the springs but it is really easy and cheap...27 pieces for 10.00
Greenworks is awesome especially for the price! I took a chance on a tiller and was shocked how well that worked for an electric too. Used it to prep maybe 1,500 + square feet (not all one time) for my lawn redux. Never did detaching and was thinking about it but since I installed drip tubes, was hesitant since I didn't do a good job of burying the tubes deep enough. Since the Greenworks is lighter, I may be able to get away without damaging my drip tubes.
Thanks for that excellent side by side comparison. Yesterday I purchase a sun joe dethatcher Have a larger yard so I’m planning on using it for the front yard and buy a pull behind dethatcher for the back.
I like the Greenworks because if you have irrigation covers the spring fingers probably won't destroy the plastic cover. My lot is a half-acre, so I use a tow-behind spring dethatcher. It would be nice if there was a power rake and bagging device you can review.
For the sake of the comparison it was nice to see the dead grass pulled to the sidewalk but it is way easier to buzz over the lawn with your mower after and bag everything.
Is raking better at getting the dead grass out? And yes you fill your bags crazy fast. I always have my lawn clipping bags around the yard over flowing with the dead grass.
A bit of Internet miscommunication, I was wondering what the best way to pick up all the dead junk after you power rake. I bought an electric one and used my mower but didn't know if you had a better suggestion.
@@huskrzfan024 I got yah. I use a rake. Others use the lawn mower. I find it's best to short mow, power rake, cleanup, power rake, clean up, then thatch rake the rest manually.
Nice comparison vid. I've had my Greenworks going on 4 years now and it's been amazing and durable. Despite a couple of broken springs (extra replacements included), it works for me.
I had to throw it out after 4 uses.... The scarifier is too rough on the machine. There is a gear component connected to the motor that is made up of very weak and cheap metal that is unreplaceable. There's no give to the machine if it hits a rock or hard compacted soil and eventually breaks. The dethatching cyclinder doesn't work as well as the scarifier cylinder but the tines have some give if it hits any hard surface so I would recommend using the dethatching cylinder and never using the scarifying cylinder. Just a FYI from someone who's used and broken a sunjoe even with very careful use.
Like ur HONESTY. I just bought the green works last weekend getting ready to use it. Watching this video makes me feel confident in what I just bought. Thx
I bought a Sun Joe because it had a bigger motor (10a vs 12a) and I am not disappointed. The only pain in the ass is the managing of the cord since it is a corded rake.
both the Green works and Sunjoe actually rake the lawn ... where as the Power rakes beat the livin hell out of the grass as it tears through it ! The sunjoe comes with the scarifier attachment it you plan to reseed !
I bought one. It is great. Powerful motor, mine has height adjustment on the front, an easy slide lever. The bag is useless so just keep it off and do a walk over with mower or vac. I am going to prop the bag cover up a little to allow for better grass ejection. You will be happy you bought it as opposed to renting a heavy gas powered one.
Dude, that Vanna White lady is a cutie pie! You should ask her out on a date! Seriously thought, the GreenWorks (or SunJoe) would win hands down because a home user may have to do a 3rd pass to get equal debris removal, but when you consider the amount of time (and novice damage) of a power rake versus the time you need to get into the truck, connect a trailer (or rent a truck/trailer), drive to a big box store, rent a power rake - even with no wait time, load it up, tie it down, bring the power rake home, unload, do the work, refill the gas, clean it up the rental equipment, load it back onto the trailer, tied it down, take it back to the store, unload it, reclaim your deposit/pay for any overage on time and drive back home, that 1/3 less per pass is easily going to take less time, money and frustration than what is required in renting and traveling with a gas powered flail style power rake. Compare that with the electric version which you'd pay $175-$200 for the electric unit and a 3 pronged 10 or 12 gauge 100 ft extension cord (anything less and you'd likely destroy the Greenwors/Sunjoe electric motor), and I think the electric version is a hands down winner. Looking behind door #2 was a clear winner! And you did a great jacting like a spazzed out or panicked/excited person on a TV show. Perfect over acting to match the TV people! I've not used the Demand CS, but I've used Bifen IT. How would you compare those two products (assuming you've used Bifen) for usefulness and length of coverage? Bifen is rated for 90 days of coverage and I've found at the maximum application rate I had coverage for about 100-110 days, and that was living near swampy land where the mosquito pressure was off the charts. My 7 YO (4 years ago) was almost never outside playing because she would come back in 20 minutes later, even after almost giving her a bath in bug repellent, and be covered in bug bites. There's another insecticide that is bee safe, but I cannot remember the name of it. If you're looking for another reason for a video, maybe you could post a video covering the pro's and con's of these insecticides.
i prefer the sun joe dethatcher over the works. as for demance cs vs bifen IT. no comparison. Demand CS all day. bifen it lasts somewhere between 7 days to 30 days. demand cs 90 days at proper rates.
Great comparison video. I got the sunjoe version with the scarifier. Got refurbished with 3 years warranty for just over $100, I'm a bargain hunter. It works great but it took me a whole day to do around 8k of lawn including clean up. Make sure you use a 14 or 12 gauge extension cord. Would like to know your thoughts on the scarifier.
Dead grass IS thatch because it creates the same effect as thatch. It hogs the water and absorbs nutrients. It's just another definition of thatch. You know what would be a great addition to the Greenworks Dethatcher is big vacuum motor, with bag, that really SUCKS!! THAT'S what I'm looking for. I really don't want to invent one, just buy it.
Dead grass that isn't decomposing is dead grass NOT thatch. Thatch is the root ball and holds water and nutrients. I totally agree about the big vacuum motor. That would be awesome! They sell them for leaves. But i'm pretty sure it wouldn't hold the weight.
I've gotten good feedback on this subject. the answer is yes but....... you can't go too low or you'll get caught up in the stolons. best to buy the sun joe. has more control over the height.
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For the average homeowner, the green works is a cheaper option than renting,picking up,dropping off of the industrial machine or paying someone to do it for you.😁👍👍
For sure. It was super convenient.
Im the guy you phone and im still showing up using one of these looking for your plugin,,, what would you rather wrangle around all day something that weighs 20lb or something that weighs 100 lbs?? if i break it i throw it away and buy another one.
@@fixt100 absolutely. Easy to transport and convenient to use.
The Green Works dethatcher (power rake) worked great for me. I was surprised how much dried up dead grass it pulled up. Once I was done I picked as much as I could with the mower bag. Then I raked up the rest and put down some grass seed. I watered twice a day when it wasn’t raining and now my lawn looks great. I have about an acre of lawn. The Green Works dethatcher made the toughest part of the job much easier. It’s worth every penny.
@@MrWhoevr great review! Love hearing these positive experiences.
Eh Ginja...I am so glad you did this comparison video. I might just pull the trigger now and get one myself too. BTW ... that was an EPIC introduction to the video ... you cracked me up 😂😂😂.
Glad yet you like it! I was shocked at how well it works given the price
Denis Brisebois . He cracked me up also! I was going to ask him what he was drinking or smoking because I wanted some. Great way to open a video.
you wont regret it man, im working on *paying* for my commercial dethatcher with one of these its on its second season now and going along just fine (do NOT STOP MOVING while its turned on)
Fixt100 great 👍 thanks for the tip !!!
Note on the Greenworks: if you hear the tires squeaking, you need to clean out debris from the axle area.
Interesting! Thanks for that
I was feeling all inferior with my Greenworks after watching your last de-thatching video with that awesome Bluebird and then you go and come out with this video!? Nice work brother you have redeemed my faith in my Greenworks purchase and I still envy the Bluebird.
It's interesting for sure. I am impressed what that little pony can do.
Okay, I just bought one off Amazon because of your video review...based on the merits...I swear it wasn’t because of the lady with the tomboy shirt jumping up and down.
LOL thanks Jay! She will be happy to hear that
I bought one a 2 years ago for around $80 and love it. It does take a little longer, but I no longer have to rent and haul a machine. I can do it on my schedule. It comes with a whole second set of teeth and after 2 seasons of use on a 8k sqft lawn it has been flawless and no broken teeth.
That's a great deal! Shocked how long they're lasting for people.
I used my new unit this year. I am happy to give it an A!!! This little guy does the job
perfectly, sold my gas powered Classen, and I am glad I did. I use a heavy 12 gauge
cord, no backing up, just forward movement. No gas or battery related problems.
I can’t find one negative comment to make about it. By the way, Great video!!!
Thanks Al. I'm a fan of corded tools. I get frustrated with battery powered items especially when they sit on the shelf
Got my Greenworks last year and used it on my 8,000 sq. ft. lawn. It worked very well. I hauled away 12 barrels full of dead grass. One note... after I finished the job I removed the black cover on top of the unit. It covers the motor and drive belt and has cooling holes in it. The area underneath was packed with dead grass. This should be removed before the next use to increase efficiency and decrease the chance of overheating. Nice little machine!
Great suggestion. I didnt know that
@@pestandlawnginja I thought you liked the SunJoe better?
Heya, Ginja!
Thanks for the side by side review here. For the price of two rentals, even with having to walk 33% more, I'm pretty sure I'm gonna be happy with this thing.
For sure! Even if it breaks after a few uses. It was so easy to use.
I have the Sun Joe version of this and I have been very happy with it. The Sun Joe runs about the same ($120) but comes with the spring loaded tines like on this one but also with a metal bladed head that cuts a little deeper.
On any of these units I'd recommend buying the 3 year extended warranty for $15 just because you are going to beat on it and it will die.
Good Call!
Greenworks comes with 4 year warranty. SunJoe only 2 years.
@@JonathanIsrael708 I didn't know that. very interesting and valid point
@@pestandlawnginja Yep, plus the extra set of tines Greenworks includes. The only reason I haven't made up my mind is the SunJoe comes with a "scarifying" tool. Supposedly cuts into the soil, like a mini aeration, but how useful it is I can't find.
@@JonathanIsrael708 I imagine the usefulness comes to use it as an overseed tool.
I love your reaction to the performance. Almost word for word surprise that I showed as well. Also, an identical comment made to my wife, “if I use it twice and toss it I break even” over renting twice a year.
It was shocking. Me and the homeowner couldn't believe it. Glad you could tell it was genuine and not scripted
@@pestandlawnginja Like my dad always said, you get what you paid for, seemed like a decent investment. Now i want one, lol
Impressive results. I just picked one of these up a few days ago. Excellent deal and cool product.
Very cool product. Still shell shocked about it.
Hey Ginja,
I was going to rent a dethatcher at Home Depot until I saw your video. For the price of renting one twice at Home Depot I bought the Greenworks . WOW!!! This thing is a beast!! Thanks for the heads up.
Surprising Right!?
I have rented a dethatcher from Home Depot the past 2 years in late Summer. Each time, the units looked brand new with Honda engines. Each year if the unit angles toward the gas tank side it would cut out. So I would only be able to go in one direction on the sloped portion of my lawn. Really a pain in the ass. I'm ordering the Greenworks today. Even if it doesn't perform as well as the gas rental unit, I can see it will take one extra pass to get there.
I gonna get one. For the price even though its electric. Its doing what is supposed to do. 👍👍👍
@@pestandlawnginja I would like to ask here - what should I charge [ ballpark] for a 150X150 lawn with gobbs of thatch removed by me? 200?
I'd like to see these compared to the dethatching mower blades. If those work well it could really save a lot work by being self-propelled (depending on your mower) or shortening the cleanup step.
They do work well. They just are prone to ripping. That's my only issue. Most are made for ride on mowers
Thanks, good comparison. I recently bought a Sun Joe and was impress how well it. I was curious how it would compare to a professional tool like the Bluebird. I've never used either. I considered the Greenworks but went with the Sun Joe because of higher amp motor and the unit came with the spring loaded tines and a scarifier. Appreciate the video, thanks !!
Your welcome Jeff! I may need to try that sun Joe simply for the scarifier.
Just ordered one through your link. The side-by-side with the Blue Bird really convinced me. I rented a Blue Bird last spring and was pleased with the results but all the hassle with the renting, the hauling, the weight of the machine...I’m willing to take a flier on the GreenWorks. Thanks.
You'll be glad you did. its a great machine.
Bought one last fall do do my yard, I am a Prime member so if it sucked I'd send it back. For the homeowner it is an awesome little tool to have. Not sure how well it would work commercially. I'd buy it again in a heart beat.
Great homeowner tool. I'm keeping it for sure.
You won't get it for that prize on Amazon right now. But you can at the Greenworks web site directly. www.greenworkstools.com/10-14inch-corded-dethatcher-349
great feedback!
I have a Bermuda lawn, my mower only allows me to scalp at 1.5 inches so once my green grass is growing and being mowed, I still see tons of old dead brown grass. Would this be a good option to get rid of that?
I've heard that the traditional power rake works better because of the stolons. Most have mentioned this issue with zoysia grass.
Dude, HELP! I’ve got moles up the ars! What can I do? They’re destroying my lawn!
checkout talparid
I just used the greenworks last week. Worked great on my 2000 sq ft little patch of lawn.
Perfect size yard for that machine!
The real thing that would've been nice to see that you completely skipped was, what do the little springs look like after the 1 use (3 passes)? How many are broken or missing if any at all. That is the question to how well it held up. If all the springs are broken and its completely worn out after 1 use, is it really worth the purchase?... Missing a critical part of the review.
Good call. That's great feedback.
I stepped up and purchased a Billy Goat PR5050H Power Rake and also the Verticutting reel. Gas power for me ! Cord free.
Oh snap! Big boy toys! You'll love it
Hmm...I'll have to research this piece of equipment. Thanks for the suggestion.
I keep the back flap open, Yes I do get it on my shoes but works a lot better. Try it.
Makes sense. Its pretty much there so you dont get hit with debris. Pretty standard
In the Dallas/Fort Worth area they don't seem to sell these in store. Is this something that is not common to use in my area for some reason? Was thinking about buying one.
Yah I believe it. Amazon has been the best for me
Stop putting your kids in reviews, it's not cute, we have our own screechers, we don't want to see yours. Other than that thanks for the review.
Tell me how you really feel 😂😂😂😂
I bought a Sunjoe to scarify my lawn for overseeding and I was amazed at how well it works! The thing looks cheap, but the electric motor doesn't bog down at all, not even on the its lowest setting. It cleans up easyily and doesn't take too much room in my over-crowded garage. Much better alternative to the hassle of renting a power rake! The overseeding, btw, came out great and I attribute that to grooves cut into the turf by the scarifier. Thanks for the recommendation!
Rad! Glad to hear you're slaying that lawn! Sun joe is the best choice of lawn dethatchers in my opinion
I'm glad to see you thought the electric was worthwhile. My long cord was 1/2 the price of the machine, I wanted to make sure I didn't trip a circuit because of the amps the motor pulls and resistance of a long cord. I bought my de-thatcher with the exact economic argument you had - if I get two uses out of it it was probably better than renting a commercial machine one time (one use so far). On a larger yard it is a hassle running the cord around trees and things. Cord management has to be the biggest hassle of using the electric machines. Thanks for the fun intro. Maybe some thoughts on edging in a future video - whether to, hows and whys?
The cord issues.... ugh. Yes that was annoying. But just an oversight compared to value a s functionality. Ill put your edging idea on the ideas list. Great idea.
I have both as well - the one thing with the electric is when you get to a grass with stolons (I had a few bad patches of creeping bentgrass), they get tangled around the drum and the outside bushings, causing the machine to quit. That happened a few times until I decided to jump on a used bluebird power rake. The flail blades don’t care about stolons (or anything else), and just power through it all. In addition, thick dead grass can overwhelm the electric unit. That said, it is lower maintenance and cheaper. Stores on the wall too.
Very good feedback. Thanks for sharing.
Great review! I have one and have used it for 2 seasons to use before overseeding. I got it based on reviews on Ryan Knoor's channel and other positive reviews. I'm 67 years old and I didn't want my death certificate to list "cause of death- thatch rake". Hopefully the Greenworks and I will grow old together!
I love how soo many people have this product.
Funny I am 70 and was thinking the same thing after my last hand raking. My unit is now on order!
I actually use the greenworks in my landscape business and it has made me plenty of money.I will upgrade to a gas one when i get the money
That's so awesome. I love hearing this.
Great review, I'm sold. Try a Sun Joe next
I'll put it on the list
Great comparison! Used it this weekend and was really surprised how well it worked. It cost the same amount to rent the gas powered one and it did to buy this machine. Super happy with the purchase. Now it's time to overseed and thicken up that KBG!
So cool. I'm amazed at how many people have this unit and not one real complaint.
Great video, Ginja! Really appreciate you going through the back-breaking effort of this comparison for your followers. I grabbed the Greenworks dethatcher last fall when it was on sale for $86. It's been a heck of a machine. Between my parents and their neighbors lawns, I probably have close to 11k sqft on it. It has easily paid for itself. Keep up the great work 🤙
So cool! That's a ton of work pulling debris off 11k. Well done 👉👊
Right one time.. I've been debating Greenworks or SunJoe dethatcher. Leaning towards Greenworks. Let's see how it does...
Wish I could tell you either way. I haven't tried the sunjoe.
The one thing I don't like about electrical ones is that they are light and the nose keeps raising as you push it.
I hear what you're saying. I haven't had much of an issue with these.
I was literally just watching your last video wondering how that beast would compare to the greenworks.
Thanks for the video. Keep up the awesome work Ginja!
Thanks! It was a fun project.
With the new one, I'm curious to see how long those spring tines last before bending or getting out of shape. For the cost, little extra work, less settings. Should almost be a step in between each setting, for better depth control.
2 passes with the other and you could see the difference in color immediately.
Couldnt really go by the video, but how loud was the Greenworks?
Sounds like a vacuum. Not loud at all.
Nice, I've used the gas powered one and you almost need to wear a head set to protect from the sound. Now i want the electric one.
@@dominicdouglas7580 hahaha. So true
Love Your Vid Ginja! Always making me laugh to almost crying. Your St. Patrick Day one was off the Hook!!!! Keep it up Funny and awesome content, learned a lot from You!
Thanks Chad! Glad you liked it.
00:20 both door number 1 and 2 look good...
Bahahaha. Yes they do!
Im a Lawn Care guy and i use one of these because its much lighter and easier in my truck,, no renting and does just as good of a job(for a little extra time, that is unless you have 3 guys using them because they are cheap enough to just buy one for every guy.).
It is super light! Love it
@@pestandlawnginja another good reason to have it in the truck is because you can hang it on the wall and if a customer wants a dethatch out of the blue you can pull it off the wall and do it for them no sweat.
@@fixt100 great point
Thanks, I'm awaiting the arrival of mine. That was my logic, it's just over $130.
I'll give it a shot.
It's pretty awesome!
i bought a used greenworks on craigslist, $60 excited to try it out
Great buy!
Greenworks need to pass 10% straight into your mit.. I think sales are going to go through the roof after this video that's very interesting. David knocks Goliath spark out well done 👍👍👍
🤑 thanks! It was a fun and surprising review
Damn, I may buy that Greenworks dethatcher this week, lol.
😂😂😂
I would still get the green works though still lots of benifits
It is a great machine!
I've had mine for 4 years now, my bro-inlaw uses it more than I do, lol. He loves it, I've been lucky the past 2 years I haven't had much of any thatch. But it's a beast for the money and ease of usage. 👍 💪
Hahaha. That's awesome. Gotta love buying other people tools
Looks like an awesome little machine! I stumbled across it this morning on Amazon while searching for a 'verticut' mower. Question: What is the difference between "thatch" and just "dead grass"?
thatch is the rootball that holds a lot of macro and micro nutrients. dead grass..... well its dead grass.
I bought the Greenworks.. It works. It's very basic. It cost me $87 delivered from Amazon. It was reduced a lot.
What are your thought Ms about using it on thick zoysia grass.. ?
Great question. I would use a flail based machine and not the tine based machines. from what i've heard the tines grab onto the stolons and get wrapped up around the barrel.
So what would you say is fair for a lightly used greenworks de thatch machine should cost. I found one exactly like the one in your vid for $50. Worth it?
For sure. Lowest new I've heard is $80
Pest and Lawn Ginja nice! I’ll go for it
@@SVTJD I dont think you'll regret it. Just be sure to have a 50ft 14gauge or 100ft 12 gauge extension cord.
Pest and Lawn Ginja got the extension cords covered, I have an electric leaf blower so I have 4 cords. Good looking out, thanks!
can this greenworks rake the moss up? my lawn has a heavy moss i used scotts MossEX and tested it in a small area and it killed the moss beautifully.. if the greenworks can rake the dead moss up would be perfect
I doubt it. The tines are so thin and spaced out.
@@pestandlawnginja is there any electric rake you recommend to rake the moss up?
Thanks
@@raymondvo7758 I've seen one that might do the trick. It's a lawn sweeper. However the grass would have to be cut super short and you'd the the heavy duty machine not a residential machine.
The metal blade that was included with my greenworks will dig out moss.
But. It digs up everything else. I use mossx early spring 2 passes with a sprayer and it keeps it at Bay.
Are you shocked because it’s from China?
hahahaha. I was shocked because it feels like i bought my 5 year old a decoy toy
Multi tool! Great work, Ginja. Love seeing you back in the yard! Oh, by the way, awesome intro!
Thanks big fish! Have a great day
‘Even if I had to throw it out after two uses cuz it’s a piece of crap’ LOL
Gotta love my blurting. Can't help it sometimes
I have the same one and used it for my scalp on my bermuda this year. My mower only drops to 1 inch so having this allowed me to loosen all the dead grass first. I was really impressed. My neighbors thought i was really weird though.
They always do Todd! Until you unleash the greatness. Then they all want a piece
How often do you detach your Bermuda? Or when?
Good stuff Ginja. I had been thinking about buying a dethacter after my lawn reno last season. I may just do ahead and do the greenworks.
I was genuinely impressed.
On point comparison video, thanks. 👍🏼🌱 I have used both and I think the Bluebird does a better job quicker but for those like me that don’t own one it becomes a pain to rent it. I’m torn... So, for your Spring thatching on your lawn which one are you pulling out?
That is a great question! You'll have to wait and see
Just a heads up, I believe they all come with the wrong instructions.
Level 1 or low, is the most aggressive, the tines go approx 10 mm into the ground, and should NOT be used for transporting like they mention on the instructions.
Level 3 or High, is the least aggressive, or 1 mm into the ground, and should be used for transporting. The instructions say High is for going 3/8" into the ground which is the exact opposite of what is happening.
Think Low - low down into the ground, and High - high up barely scratching the surface of the ground.
I attempted to remove the wheels to and adjust them so that they follow the directions that are printed on the side but the wheels only work one way. So just ignore the instructions.
Wish Ryobi would make a 40 volt version of this to match all my OPE. Cords are the worst.
I hear yah. I didnt even watch the wheels hahaha. I just watched the front end go down. So I would assume you're right.
Thanks for the videos!
I purchased the larger, newer version of this power rake but long story short, the Amazon vendor tried to say I received it when I didn't...
Out of stubbornness I just dethatched half of our front lawn with my groundskeeper II rake. Don't get me wrong... it's an amazing rake. But if you have to rake anything close to 1/4 acre you have your work cut out for you.
I watched this video again and grabbed a corded one directly from Amazon so I can hit the other half of the yard 🚀 I wanted to spring for the only bluebird available on Craigslist but they're asking $1200...
the sun joe is by far my favorite machine. comes with both the dethatcher and a scarifier.
Dude I bought the greenworks directly from amazon for 50 some odd bucks in off season... I’m not surprised price has gone up, slammed it to lowest setting and it works great on Bermuda. Be careful to get the right rated extension cord is my only advice to future owners.
Nice bro. I've heard about the cord issue. Crazy.
Nice comparison video. Did you adjust the depth on either one after each pass? I've had the green works for a few years. The wheels rattle pretty loud now but it still does the job so I can't see replacing it. The plastic had since worn out and can't tighten our fix them.
No adjustments. Went to the lowest setting on the greenworks and the proper setting on the bluebird.
Done told you.... get a classen with the spring tines.... lol... actually anything with those Honda engines are good... I just like my classen with the foldable handle and spring tines.... also use a strong blower to make the piles.... makes life a whole hell of a lot easier! Raking a big yard after thatching it and you don’t want to finish!!!
Yes! I'm going to try the blower option next for sure
Ugh. Not what I’m looking for. Did the search on “sod remover” and it brought this up. At the very least, I thought it would be like a tiller. What is the purpose of doing this? Not being smart, I’m dead serious. Just started gardening three years ago and this makes me think this is why some people have suck stiff grass - that’s so close to all the same hight. Like a high-and-tight for the yard lol
The one from Sun Joe is the worst tool I have used.
What didn't you like about it
I have a Sun Joe and works great. I have used gas powered and it just beat the hell out of the grass..
The company doesn't show how to replace the springs but it is really easy and cheap...27 pieces for 10.00
Greenworks is awesome especially for the price! I took a chance on a tiller and was shocked how well that worked for an electric too. Used it to prep maybe 1,500 + square feet (not all one time) for my lawn redux. Never did detaching and was thinking about it but since I installed drip tubes, was hesitant since I didn't do a good job of burying the tubes deep enough. Since the Greenworks is lighter, I may be able to get away without damaging my drip tubes.
makes one wonder. I'm shocked at how light these devices are and they still do a decent job. crazy.
Thanks for that excellent side by side comparison. Yesterday I purchase a sun joe dethatcher Have a larger yard so I’m planning on using it for the front yard and buy a pull behind dethatcher for the back.
Lemme know how it goes. I've never used one.
I like the Greenworks because if you have irrigation covers the spring fingers probably won't destroy the plastic cover.
My lot is a half-acre, so I use a tow-behind spring dethatcher. It would be nice if there was a power rake and bagging device you can review.
There are a few devices that suck up debris I haven't found one worth getting excited over
Would you recommend it for st Augustine ?
Probably not. Some of the stolons get bound up in the tines where you won't have that problem with a flail based power rake.
You have store in uae selling electric detatcher
Im not sure way UAE is
For the sake of the comparison it was nice to see the dead grass pulled to the sidewalk but it is way easier to buzz over the lawn with your mower after and bag everything.
I prefer to rake over mow. It was easy with my riding mower but a pain with a regular push mower. The bag wasnt big enough.
Is raking better at getting the dead grass out?
And yes you fill your bags crazy fast. I always have my lawn clipping bags around the yard over flowing with the dead grass.
Power raking is the best for removing mulch that isn't decomposing.
A bit of Internet miscommunication, I was wondering what the best way to pick up all the dead junk after you power rake. I bought an electric one and used my mower but didn't know if you had a better suggestion.
@@huskrzfan024 I got yah. I use a rake. Others use the lawn mower. I find it's best to short mow, power rake, cleanup, power rake, clean up, then thatch rake the rest manually.
Nice comparison vid. I've had my Greenworks going on 4 years now and it's been amazing and durable. Despite a couple of broken springs (extra replacements included), it works for me.
It's a fantastic machine!
I had to throw it out after 4 uses.... The scarifier is too rough on the machine. There is a gear component connected to the motor that is made up of very weak and cheap metal that is unreplaceable. There's no give to the machine if it hits a rock or hard compacted soil and eventually breaks. The dethatching cyclinder doesn't work as well as the scarifier cylinder but the tines have some give if it hits any hard surface so I would recommend using the dethatching cylinder and never using the scarifying cylinder. Just a FYI from someone who's used and broken a sunjoe even with very careful use.
sorry to hear that. I've loaned mine out over 20 times and its still working great.
Every electric lawn machine is much better choice for small lawns up to 200 sq m (2000 sq ft)
Agree
I've been on the fence about getting a greenworks, but you helped push me over. Thank you for such a great video.
Hey Shane. Get the sun Joe.
BTW I rented the bluebird for a couple of days. I have a big yard and my yard is not flat. The bluebird was very heavy .
For sure. Not fun going up hills
I love your shoes , what kind are those ?? Great video !
Altra superior 2
Like ur HONESTY. I just bought the green works last weekend getting ready to use it. Watching this video makes me feel confident in what I just bought. Thx
Awesome! It's a great product!
What level was the gas machine on, I must've missed it.
I left it on 3
I bought a Sun Joe because it had a bigger motor (10a vs 12a) and I am not disappointed. The only pain in the ass is the managing of the cord since it is a corded rake.
I love the sun joe. it's a better machine
Wow, I have been looking at this since yesterday. I'm gonna pull the trigger now. Thanks for the video. I will purchase through your link.
Thanks! I'm still shocked at how well that little guy works. I went into the review really skeptical.
I bought one two years ago. Little thing kicks butt. Not one broken tine n 0 issues. Cheap and works awesome 👍👍
So crazy how efficient they are. Wish I would have known sooner
FYI, the Low/High settings are switched on the Greenworks machine. If you want to use the Low setting, you should put it on High and vice versa.
Yes! There are several batches that went out like that. crazy!
both the Green works and Sunjoe actually rake the lawn ... where as the Power rakes beat the livin hell out of the grass as it tears through it ! The sunjoe comes with the scarifier attachment it you plan to reseed !
Thanks for the comparison video! Please Please tell me you have a video where you edge that lawn! Those overgrown edges are killing me!
Hahahaha. So funny. I had a talk with him too because it was hurting my feel goods
I bought one. It is great. Powerful motor, mine has height adjustment on the front, an easy slide lever. The bag is useless so just keep it off and do a walk over with mower or vac. I am going to prop the bag cover up a little to allow for better grass ejection. You will be happy you bought it as opposed to renting a heavy gas powered one.
It's a great machine. still works!
Off topic but I have a problem with ants in my grass. I live in Florida. What can I do?
Transport micron is my go to lately. Dm me for a link on facebook
I purchased a Greenworks last month. That machine is less than $140 on Amazon and it really did work for me.
Great feedback! Glad it worked for you!
Love the video! Love your family! I am getting mine on Thursday and I’m excited to use it😆
You'll love it! Let me know how it goes.
Pest and Lawn Ginja
It went good! I loved it! I love watching your videos. Gracias 🙏
@@adrianajimenez6708 awesome! Well done doing the work 👊🤩
Dude, that Vanna White lady is a cutie pie! You should ask her out on a date! Seriously thought, the GreenWorks (or SunJoe) would win hands down because a home user may have to do a 3rd pass to get equal debris removal, but when you consider the amount of time (and novice damage) of a power rake versus the time you need to get into the truck, connect a trailer (or rent a truck/trailer), drive to a big box store, rent a power rake - even with no wait time, load it up, tie it down, bring the power rake home, unload, do the work, refill the gas, clean it up the rental equipment, load it back onto the trailer, tied it down, take it back to the store, unload it, reclaim your deposit/pay for any overage on time and drive back home, that 1/3 less per pass is easily going to take less time, money and frustration than what is required in renting and traveling with a gas powered flail style power rake. Compare that with the electric version which you'd pay $175-$200 for the electric unit and a 3 pronged 10 or 12 gauge 100 ft extension cord (anything less and you'd likely destroy the Greenwors/Sunjoe electric motor), and I think the electric version is a hands down winner. Looking behind door #2 was a clear winner! And you did a great jacting like a spazzed out or panicked/excited person on a TV show. Perfect over acting to match the TV people!
I've not used the Demand CS, but I've used Bifen IT. How would you compare those two products (assuming you've used Bifen) for usefulness and length of coverage? Bifen is rated for 90 days of coverage and I've found at the maximum application rate I had coverage for about 100-110 days, and that was living near swampy land where the mosquito pressure was off the charts. My 7 YO (4 years ago) was almost never outside playing because she would come back in 20 minutes later, even after almost giving her a bath in bug repellent, and be covered in bug bites. There's another insecticide that is bee safe, but I cannot remember the name of it. If you're looking for another reason for a video, maybe you could post a video covering the pro's and con's of these insecticides.
i prefer the sun joe dethatcher over the works. as for demance cs vs bifen IT. no comparison. Demand CS all day. bifen it lasts somewhere between 7 days to 30 days. demand cs 90 days at proper rates.
i wish EGO made a thatcher to go with the other 5 machines i have from them
Totally agree!
Do think that would work for a SE Looziana St Augustine / Torpedo Grass lawn?
I have heard mixed reviews about the stolons getting twisted in the tines. I think a flail based machine would be best in your situation.
Great video comparison. I might buy one from Amazon instead of renting a bluebird this year.
I was pretty i.pressed. not gonna lie
Do you think it would have the power to pull oak leaves out of Floratam (St. Augustine) grass?
great question. You'd want to go with the sun joe because it has more height adjustment features. It will do the job.
Great comparison video. I got the sunjoe version with the scarifier. Got refurbished with 3 years warranty for just over $100, I'm a bargain hunter. It works great but it took me a whole day to do around 8k of lawn including clean up. Make sure you use a 14 or 12 gauge extension cord. Would like to know your thoughts on the scarifier.
By the way you know you made a great video whe you make me want to go out there and dethatch again after just one week.
Love it!
Few people mentioned the scarifier. I'll have to get one for sure
Dead grass IS thatch because it creates the same effect as thatch. It hogs the water and absorbs nutrients. It's just another definition of thatch. You know what would be a great addition to the Greenworks Dethatcher is big vacuum motor, with bag, that really SUCKS!! THAT'S what I'm looking for. I really don't want to invent one, just buy it.
Dead grass that isn't decomposing is dead grass NOT thatch. Thatch is the root ball and holds water and nutrients. I totally agree about the big vacuum motor. That would be awesome! They sell them for leaves. But i'm pretty sure it wouldn't hold the weight.
Ok Ginja, I’m sold too!
checkout the sun joe as well
Do you think the wee electric one will work on thick Saint Augustine grass that has not been dethatched for 20 years?
I've gotten good feedback on this subject. the answer is yes but....... you can't go too low or you'll get caught up in the stolons. best to buy the sun joe. has more control over the height.