Asaba Harumasa and Alisa: Echo Basic Comparison (REQUEST)
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- Опубликовано: 9 фев 2025
- This comparison is not intended to promote hate or negativity towards either game. Both have unique gameplay, mechanics, and features that make them enjoyable in their own right. The following comparison is purely for exploration and doesn't diminish the value of either title.
Everyone has the right to choose which game they wish to play, and the intention is purely to share perspectives
This video is a just a demonstration
Zenless Zone Zero : Asaba Harumasa
Punishing Gray Raven : Alisa: Echo
This is a REQUEST
And yes you may request
And i will make a video
- If i have both characters (trials or owned)
- current banner if i dont own them
- if they are somehow similar
- only ZZZ and PGR for now (might add other games soon)
- if i have freetime ofcourse
Should have put it side by side
Btw, it look like you are just re-edit other's video
Probably a coincidence, i usually edit while recording clips for the video, record edit simultaneously
Tho nice suggestion i might do that for lesser time
Thanks for always hearing requests!🔥⚔️
Will you do wuwa vs. zzz characters comparison in the future?
@@Art_FlameBoltz-PGR welcome, and i probably wont do wuwa and zzz comparison, both are gacha but they are different no?
Genshin and wuwa works but a lot of channels already do that
The only difference:
ALISA HAS A JOJO STAND + JOTARO OUTFIT FROM HER DEBUT
Nah it's astral chain
@@Armadan7 ASTRAL CHAIN MENTIONED???
Nah fam it's a persona refrence
Fun fact. Both are given for free . The only difference is asaba is attacker but alisa is support (physical amplifier)
yea alisa is support....o_o
@@drixthunder6555she's supporting teammate...by beating the **** out of enemies 😂
Y'know, the best kind of support.
Well amplifier is a class that combine Support and Attacker class
@@SANCAKA007 And then you have Vera....
@@NeoZeta and now Watanabe haha
One of the issue i have with ZZZ is the camera angle and transition on the ult animation
Let me try to explain it, note that im not an animator or some sort so take it with a mountain of salt, but
4:52
Very nice animation sequence here, now the problem is, well, this
4:59
It awkwardly snap to gameplay screen. For the amount of anticipation they build up with the start up animation, the actual pay off is....meh
*almost every ZZZ character shares this sort of quality, where the camera is zoomed to the characters face, then they do some sort of attack, then it snap back to gameplay screen where the actual attack happen*
Now here's how PGR does their ult animation
9:41 now here we have the ult animation, a noticable difference here is that its actually a zoomed OUT shot of Alisa. Also unique background instead of just the standard blue
9:41-9:44 Now here's the cool part. They bring down the camera angle, and then right at the 9:43 mark where the beam is slammed into the camera and it goes white, thats when the change into a different angle above her, then from this angle transitioning into gameplay view becomes more natural
Another thing you'd notice is that the attack itself that does damage is part of the ult animation, whereas ZZZ typically start dealing damage once you've returned to gameplay
I think this is generally why people seem to favors Kuro animation alot more than Hoyo despite Hoyo being the far more popular games . The camera angle are used very dynamically. No two ult will ever feel the same and its eye candy everytime
Totally agree with this, hoyo sometimes choose weird angles for ults.
I agree, kuro is creative with transition. but animation wise, i still prefer ZZZ over PGR. Because theres a feeling of weight in every of their movements, also flow naturally too. The only problem i have with PGR is constant camera shake tbh. Idk, its just make the game feel cheap and make the floor like paper compared to solid ground feel like in zzz.
@@arzurianrein4612 i think you can remove that
@arzurianrein4612 Characters in pgr are constructs (frames). They are people who have transferred their consciousness into a mechanoid body with a humanoid appearance. So they don't have to be sedentary and slow like humans whose human body is limited in speed and muscle capabilities. But I know what you mean, everyone has their own tastes. If zzz had a different style, another character designs and more movesets (boss's and character's), I'd be into it too
@@arzurianrein4612if you're talking about old constructs (characters) then yes they literally have no weight, but current released characters feel so dynamic that I could feel their weight if you look closely to their animations you could see it a lot clearly
I think your issue with pgr is it's so fast you couldn't even see the animation which is fair
I don't know who made the moveset for alisa but damn are they stylish and complex, even i don't even memorized her rotation. Because i get lost halfway through (i was mesmerized by her vfx)
For context this girl is a support..
YEH A SUPPORT AHAHA
Chika Anzai as Alisa sounds so lovely and majestic here, especially with her Stand being voiced too.
Asaba - Simple Moveset
Alisa - Complex moveset
In a nutshell basically
man you guys have no mercy hahahaha
he-he hehe! hehehe!! HEHEHEHEHE!!!!
Probably gonna request more than just "basic comparison" later on. Complete gameplay i think, since zzz mechanics revolves around character rotation way more than pgr hence why pgr offers more moveset variation. The most basic one, nor his chain and assist can be seen here while it's still part of his own kit. The same goes with Alisa's qte.
Usually just compare two characters but maybe someday well do complete gameplay
@@Esereelooking forward to it
@@vyamayuri fair warning, i am bad in PGR's whole game mechanics, QTE's, rotation, some team comps chemistry and such, sooooooooo yeah, i just have massive skill issue
Sorry bro, allisa only QTE slaves though in PGR 😂 as she has amplifier role (support), her rotation only one set combo, but some high end player only make her QTE slaves. PGR game play more flexible, you can make rotation game play or hyper carry game play, as every constructs have their own complex movement set, just be care full with your eyes when you play PGR 😂
@@Eseree no worry, we all can learn
is it only me or zzz's ult is just like inserted cutscene rather than on-site-effect? 🤔
bruh, his ult is just like wanshi: hypnos's core passive.. 🤣
Both are free too lol. Difference is one's an attacker, other is a support. Yeah, Alisa is a support and has that many attack animations lol
even the "free" stuff still can be compared lmao, one is a limited-time free while the other is permanently free
every pgr character nowadays has a complex kit, lots of animations to admire and their own field time to shine even in competitive content, instead of supports pressing 4 buttons and having five seconds field time. Everyone's primarily an onfield DPS and I love that
Request : Commandant vs Wise/Belle 💀
a side by side comparison would be great
yeah i have considered that since other also said that, the thing here is that not all character have the same kit ratio, while we can still do side by side, some wont be side by side
I like the concept of comparing character types across different games, but your videos are needlessly overlong. I wish they were more concise and had less harsh slowmo.
Cuando comparen a Hyperreal contra cualquier otro 💀
The comparison bout to CRACK everyone's screen lmao
I come from the most recent Lighter vs Noctis video and I have to say, Lighter must have been a huge miss in ZZZ cuz this archer boy is miles better in terms of gameplay.
Edit: of course though, Alisa is too much to compare, a fair one would be with lightning Bianca.
Lee hyperreal vs billy😂
Or maybe just lee palefire vs billy
Since the feel of the gameplay is similar, how about Billy vs. Wanshi?
Billy vs roland,sine people in zzz say billy is dante on dmc
Yeah Hyperreal vs Billy would be unfair, heck even Entropy vs Billy would be unfair. Palefire vs Billy is the only fair one.
Leap Palefire is the way to go, more fair.
Alisaaa ❤️❤️
Coughing Baby V.S Nitrogen Bomb
Oh come on Harusama looks pretty good, He'd be a late gen 1 S rank in PGR and for a free character off a game thats only been out for 6 months, thats pretty impressive
@@DCminh-pe9wfyeah, but he doesn't have the nuclear bomb of an ult but yeah if his pgr character his gonna be top tier gen 1 s rank character
@@DCminh-pe9wf thats all he is, "pretty good", nothing compared to alisa echo whose kit is just godly
@@DCminh-pe9wfHe's comparable to Bianca Veritas, and she's like a mid Gen 1
missed one movement from Alisa there
Thank fully I got Miyabe to bring the orbs on the field otherwise I would give up on him a long time ago. 😪
Free characters btw
Thank you for creating the motion comparison video. I'm glad I came across this video because I enjoy checking every single motion in games and sports.
May I make a request on how to make the video?
If you don't mind, could you please play the same ost in the video with the ost in the game turned off? That way we can enjoy the music together.
Also, the way you made the video before was more interesting and easy to compare.
I am still able to enjoy it as it is, so if you would like, please consider doing so.
sheesh welcome.......
- ok so i capture the game with my nvidia recorder, but sometimes OBS
- i use capcut to edit
- the music is played during tutorial, however i can separate the music....ill try
- ill try to return on my first method of editing, the reason why i show the character first and then the other because they dont have the same kit RATIO
ill consider this on the next one
I wish his pants or jacket on his waist was a lighter color because those 2 blending together make his moveset a bit hard to read.
Zzz music when slowed down 🔥🔥
Completely irrelevant from the video:
I tried to look up a tier list for pgr character, what did i get?
None, every character has its purposes. Like genuinely, I've looked up the reddit and everyone said "You can make one but it's not going to be accurate".
There are no tier lists because you essentially need all the S ranks if you want to keep up with endgame. But hey, at least they give out free S ranks every once in a while.
Boy this community has no chill. I feel like ZZZ has better combat flow overall (not by much), but PGR's extra dynamic movements and hella fast paced combat top ZZZ easily. Gameplay also feels way better since you gotta learn Alisa's rotation.
It doesn't look like he was doing much, but Alisa's gameplay requires good orb management to fill her core gauge while in mode. This man performed it really well.
Harumasa literally has orb management. Don't talk if you don't know anything.
@@al8704 Harumasa has orb management? What are you on bro? Do you even know what orb management means? That's literally a gameplay mechanic Exclussive to PGR.
his game play revolve around "quiver" stack that you can get from doing various thing you can either get 3 or 19 in single stunt depend on how you play
I don't know why, but I feel like this comparison doesn't make much sense, but good video. This is just my opinion
It really doesn't make sense, the only similarity is that they are both archers, but as he said it was a request, he is just demonstrating
@@WanderLKThey're both free too
Please add timestamps into your videos
Attacker vs support. pgr still on top but zzz pretty good 😂😂😂
Pelos no zzz eles tem modelos jogaveis de espécies diferentes🙌
I think you have miss something that a pgr skill when it have 1 2 3 orb if you have that it will over kill zzz
Not even close 🤣
PGR is a Hardest games!!! It Was Peak!!!
😁😁😁
A bow that also usable for melee is always laughable for someone who master archery in real world, whatever game they are... A bow is made not for melee purpose, but for launch a projectile... If they made for cosplay, it's looks cool indeed, but for practical use in combat, better swordgun then if you want your weapon to shot and melee in the same time, well, still not efficient tho
It's no different with Bethesda and their stupid design for guns...
Zzz is just right the gameplay is not fast
Pgr the gameplay is soo fast you get confused
Skill issues
That's why pgr will never become as successful as zzz
Yeah they beinge edgy try hard when player want to be easy to see and bully the mob
@al8704 well PGR was not made for an audience of dumb babies who just want to see flashy combos with only pressing one button at a time.
@@fletarious hell yeah that's me
Is gensin could never?
What this gotta do with genshin
ZZZ could never?
ZZZ could never!!!😎
I love how ZZZ doesn't have to puke VFX and fireworks to my face to make me think the character actually well animated, hit feedback and SFX is so well done too.
If they have more moveset than yeah i probably love it too
It has its charm true, pgr blinds me fr fr, thankfully my eye still fine (20/20)
@@christiabayu3325 true but maybe hoyo is too casual friendly to do that, regardless Harumasa still is the most difficult zzz character to play optimally
Which is the thing of being arpg being flashy as hell, but that's true.
@OrdinaryPearEnjoyer they could still add a character with more movesets in the future while still being a casual combat game like aether gazer does,back in their early patch the characters in that game has only few movesets too pretty much like zzz but they eventually add characters with rich movesets and unique playstyle like pgr but still with their own casual combat style,so i really hope they follow what AG does too in the future.