This video helped me greatly in my decision to purchase a Safir 7 and a G Stove. We are a couple who would like to use cots on formal sites, and sleeping mats on wild camps, and be able to properly cook. I was concerned that the Safir 7 might not be big enough for us to live and move around comfortably-I was really worried that it might be too cramped, and so I was mainly considering a Safir 9. Eventually, after much asking around, I decided to order a 7. Let me tell you-if, like me, you are coming from a standard 2 person tent to a Safir 7, you will be amazed at the sheer scale of the thing! It is a MASSIVE upgrade. More like a small bothy, but still very cosy. Total luxury! Plenty of room for up to four adults to move around without pressing against the tent walls, and can easily sit up in a chair. Tons of room for 2 people, especially if we were to use lower cots or sleeping mats. The headroom height is superb-the videos, as good as this one is, never communicate the size and roominess of these tents. When you see one in person, you’ll be amazed. Haven’t slept in it yet, but considering the size of the 7, I am SO GLAD I never went for the 9. It would be way too large and empty feeling. The manufacturer advises you to set up the tent and soak it before using. Aye, good luck! We literally threw buckets of water at it for nearly an hour-not a drop soaked in! It all beaded and ran right off like a duck’s back! Will update after the weekend, but right now, I am completely in love. Update soon UPDATE: We took our Safir 7 out for a trial night last weekend, with cots and a G Stove. A few thoughts: 1) Practice setting up the pegs. We have still to get the hang of this, but on our third or so try, managed to get it (mostly) right. Even very minor slopes and contours will alter where to peg out the tent. Our door panel was a little too loose, and we are also struggling to get the pole straight in the middle. It always seems to be just a little off. 2) The floor is tricky to get perfect too. We had certain sides that were too high, or too low. We have the pro-floor, and it took us a good while to set it up properly. Still unsure how to properly attach it to the door area. 3) We were hit by extremely high winds- the loose door panel came unhitched from its peg, and the wind blew in underneath the pro-floor, letting in big draughts and generally causing a bit of chaos. Subsequently I think we lost quite a lot of heat throughout the night. Although I already knew this, the pro-floor needs to be: Secured and attached all the way round; Pulled tight via the outer lower straps; Folded over the green outer flaps and; Weighed down, preferably all the way round the tent, to prevent flapping, blasts of wind and heat loss. 4) Despite the gale winds, the tipi was largely secure. It also rained for most of the night, and we were absolutely delighted to never experience a drier tent. However: because the stove pipe doesn’t secure tightly around a tent protector, you will get small drops of rain that come vertically into the tent. These usually landed on the stove, evaporating immediately. They were also tiny and inconsequential. 5) We kept the G Stove running all night, which burned approximately one bag of wood (oak). The normal size G Stove is just right for the Safir 7-I think that it would be too cool for a size 9 in Winter. We were sleeping on cots, and it was definitely noticeably cooler the lower you sit in the tent, and the further you are from the stove. However, it is generally very cosy, and far more comfortable than a normal, unheated tent. You will still need a good sleeping mat, and a good three season sleeping bag for winter, though. But there is one thing that I cannot exaggerate enough: This tent feels like your own little holiday home. It’s so cosy at night, and genuinely beautiful once it’s set up, glowing with a lamp inside. I absolutely love it. I’ll come back with some more thoughts in future, and I am considering making my own in-depth video. Hope this has been helpful to someone!
Outdoorguru No, thank you Gijs! I think I’ve watched this video close to a hundred times-it was incredibly helpful. So much that I hope to post my own video on the Safir 7. Hope you and the family are well! Thanks again! Andrew.
@@happymaskedguy1943 Andrew, Sorry for the late reply but I was in the mountains and I am visiting the ISPO trade show and there is little time left for social. We are fine and thanks for asking ;-)! Cheers, Gijs
Andrew Wood The Safir inner tent... will solve the wind & loss of heat problems..! No one ever thinks that the inner is not necessary... however it’s an intricate part of the tents system and worth every penny... I have one and it’s CLASS..!!!!
Thanks for this! I too am undecided between the two sizes. May I ask if a double wide mattress fits comfortably away from the centre pole/fire? I sleep with my wife on a 132cm wide air mattress and wondered if it would be claustrophobic on the side next to the tent wall if I tried to keep some space away from the centre firebox, which may throw off sparks. Regards and happy camping!
Thank you for reviewing Tentipi Products. I purchased the Safir 9 CP with a stove and we are always so comfortable even when camping in Alberta, CANADA in February. I enjoy your channel and appreciate you taking the time to do the reviews for us all.
Thank you for a great review I wasn't sure what tent to buy, I'm definitely buying the tentipi as I shall be living long-term in my tent, best wishes to you keep safe, Russell
Great review. I bought one last year but didn't get a chance to use it as much as I wanted so hoping 2019 is better. Now looking for a stove so thanks for pointing out the Gstove.
Mike, Thank you so much for the feedback. The Gstove is a fine stove in relation to the price. There are other more fuel efficient ones though. Let's hope 2019 is better for you. I am hoping fo a bit worser weather: Sweden - my holiday land - was crazy warm en no fires allowed. I am happy now with cool wet weather. Cheers Gijs (Please subscribe and follow me on IG and FB ;-))
Such a nice tent, thanks for the review! I'm considering getting one to live out of for long periods of time instead of a camper trailer or roof top tent while car camping/overlanding. I also appreciate you showing the Gstove, looks like a solid stove! And a lot more affordable compared to the Eldfell, which I'm sure is a great stove. Plus I love the window :)
Ryan, Thank you for the compliment! Yes the window is super. There are others with windows but not in this price range to my knowledge. Enjoy Christmas en Happy New Year!
Great video I was thinking of the gstove xl for Tentipi 7, you said you added the spark arrester and hear arrester? Did you add any extra chimney pieces also or is it just the right height as purchased? Thank you, mark
Hi Mark, I think I had 9.5 sections in total and the spark arrester on top of that one. The height of a 7 is 270 cm so with standard 6 sections you only get to 234 cm. Does this help? Enjoy the Outdoors and Stay Safe! Cheers, Gijs
@@OutdoorguruGearReviews thank you yes Iv ordered the xl so stands 260cm Iv ordered the heat arrester and the spark arrester and an extra chimney section so should be perfect for the 7, appreciate your reply keep up the great work, thanks mark
Ps mines is the zirkon 7 so a little lighter than the safir I do have the safir 15 with edfel pro but maybe a little to big for the 7 so have my own little community going ha, thanks again, mark
JP, I try, I try ;-) This one could also be more than a hour. So much to tell about a nice tent. Next review will be a smaller item though. And thank for the compliment!
Great video thanks, I have just got one of these used but I don’t have the pegging out template, I know I can buy these aftermarket but I don’t know the distance the line should be for placing the pegs. Can you help with that? I have the Safir 7. Cheers
Hi Skye, Why do you not have it. It should be in the package. I don't have the 7 anymore.....I send it back after the review. Sorry. Enjoy the Outdoors and Stay Safe! Cheers, Gijs
Hi Old Git (No offence ;-)). Toggles!!! Thanks so much I have been looking for that word for ages. And thanks for the compliment. Enjoy the Outdoors and Stay Safe, Gijs
@@OutdoorguruGearReviewsA short rod of wood or plastic sewn to one side of a coat or other garment, pushed through a hole or loop on the other side and twisted so as to act as a fastener. 😀
@@OutdoorguruGearReviews according to the fact you are from a wealthy Western European country, your English knowledge is rather miserable.. Dutch seems to be a superficial kind of people, lacking healthy self criticism ;)
Good reweview Onca can also do with out floor or fold the middel sectiin on the floor up to habe a normal campfier in the tent. Thats what I like with it so a stof is not a nesessety. But the stov makes the air cleaner tho.
Mooie uitgebreide review! Wij waren vorig jaar ook in Zweden, en we hebben je zelfs op de snelweg nog ingehaald in NL of Duitsland! Na 1 prima vakantie in DK en Zweden in een Spatz Wigwam 5 BTC overwegen wij nu ook de Safir 7 of 9 voor wat extra ruimte. Aangezien ik 192cm ben spreekt de 9 ons iets meer aan. ICM de grootste luifel en de bysonil footprint.
Sorry voor mijn wat late reactie. Ik heb je comment helemaal over het hoofd gezien. Waar kwam je ons tegen? En met hoeveel ben je? De 7 vind ik een mooie maat, de 9 al snel erg groot maar ja... 169 cm 😋. Enjoy the Outdoors and Stay Safe! Cheers, Gijs
@@OutdoorguruGearReviews We haalden je in ergens op een snelweg. Ik denk het in Duitsland was, geen idee meer waar precies. Wij zijn met zijn 3-en. Bij Moosecamp hebben we de 7 in de lichte variant en 9 Safir bewonderd. De 7 geeft niet eens zo heel veel meer ruimte dan onze Wigwam 5, en geeft ook iets minder sta-ruimte dan de 9. Maar we blijven nog even twijfelen 🙂 De meerprijs en het iets hogere gewicht van de 9 zijn te overzien, het ruimtecomfort doet me meer die kant op bewegen. De Bach WickiUp5 /Spatz Wigwam 5, ga je die ook nog eens reviewen? Ik ben benieuwd naar je oordeel daarover. Lichte, redelijk ruime familietent waar ik niet snel een concurrent voor zie, zeker niet in BTC materiaal.
The Moosecamp floor is cheaper than the TenTipi, but does not having those zips cause problems? If we want to roll it away from the door area in case of rain or wet boots?
Richard, I put a towel on it to prevent dirt.... and they are easy to clean since they are so heavy and solid executed. Maybe they can make one with zipper for you. They might do it, there ok people. Enjoy the Outdoors and Stay Safe! Cheers, Gijs
@@OutdoorguruGearReviews Thanks. I've ordered the Moosecamp. Hopefully not too long in the post. (Hoping to book a test long weekend at the end of the month). I've also ordered the G-Stove heat proof mat. Not ordered a stove yet, but the hope if/when I do is the mat will protect the groundsheet underneath it. Is any more insulation needed on top of that? (I remember being impressed by the small plumbers mats when soldering pipe a long time ago before they days of push fit, so wonder if this is a similar product.) I've ordered the Safir 9 for the family of 5. A lot of money! Hopefully it will serve for years as a great family tent.
Thank you for this review - it's one of - (perhaps the?) - best I've seen on the Tentipi Safari 7. After months of dithering over whether to get a Tentipi or a bell tent, I have just bought the Safari 7, together with the pro floor and clothes hanger. Now I am trying to decide which stove to get. I think I've decided on the Winnerwell Woodlander View Medium, for the combination of its flexibility (heating, cooking, portability), build quality, weight, the wide range of cooking accessories, and the ambience created by the two glass sides. I see you have reviewed this stove favourably for the Safari 5 tent (also helpful, thank you). My question is, do you have any idea how many additional pipe sections I will need to buy to safely clear the top of the Safari 7? (I have noted the need for a double or triple-walled protector). I have not been able to find this information from any site or review I've looked at so far and was wondering whether you just knew?! (I estimate it's likely to be 3 or maybe 4). Wishing you all the best!
Hi Lou, Sorry for the late reply but it has been busy and the Christdays 😉. The Safir is 270 cm heigh if I remember correctly. The pipe of the stove is 146 cm in total plus the height of the stove so you probably need 4. If you want to make sure: call Sander from moosecampwebshop.nl. He is the guy behind Tentipi and Winnerwell in The Netherlands. Give him my regards. Thanks for the compliments👍. Enjoy the Outdoors and Stay Safe! Cheers, Gijs
Great review - very well done, and thank you. As a potential Tentipi owner, doing his research, snakes, poisonous spiders and bull ants getting in to a tent are a potential issue. As I understand it, the optional full inner fixes this issue, but of course with extra expense and removing a little of the room inside the tent. Have you either used or tried one with an inner, and approximately how much room do you loose? Appreciate your thoughts; I am not able to see one before taking the plunge, so your review and comments are greatly appreciated! Many thanks :-)
Dear John, Yes, I have seen them and been in them with a full inner tent and space is limited a bit. The tent stays fully functional with the stove though and in winter the tent is a bit warmer ;-). If bugs and snakes is a real issue I would go for the inner tent but with the normal floor in we hardly have ant in the tent. The floor sides are quite high. Hope this helps. Cheers, Gijs
Thank you so much for the response. I'm in Australia, so coping with poisonous wildlife, and very hot temperatures are the main issues, rather than cold weather - although of course we have that as well - jus not as much, and not as cold as Europe.. :-) @@OutdoorguruGearReviews
@@happymaskedguy1943 I would agree - an inner would be the only way to foolproof the tent against ingress of anti social wilderness critters of the poisonous and biting type. I find the floor arrangement a bit fiddly from a design POV, and it also adds to the expense - I would've thought a zip in floor would be easier, but no doubt Tentipi had their reasons for building it as they have.
Hello! I have a question about cowhide. Doesn't the heat from the stove damage the hide? The grass under my Winnerwell stove always gets very dry. I also bought a cowhide for my Tentipi Safir 7. Now I'm wondering if I need an additional heat protection mat. What is your long-term experience? Best wishes from Germany! 😊👍🏻
Thank you so much for the very informative review! Happy camping! What do you think about the version Safir 5, is it possible to use the stove or the fire box in that version?
Dear Angyal, I didn't see your question before, now I do.... I am a bit lost: one RUclips systems shows your comment, the other one doesn't... It's not my habit reacting after two weeks. Answer: yes, the 5 would be no problem with stove or firebox. Happy Camping too! Gijs
Outdoorguru Thank you so much for your advice and kindness! I will buy the 5. Yes, sometimes RUclips does not send alerts on time, sometimes even after a very long time. I experienced regarding to another channel ‘s live videos as well. Thank you so much for your advice once again..
Would you consider 9 over 7, as the footprint isn’t that different i.e. 4,5m vs 5m however volume inside is very different, or would you stick to 7 when two adults ?
Hi Egil, I would go for the 7. The 9 has more space but also more weight. I find the 7 the perfect one between 5 and 9. I know some friends who had a 9 with the kids. When the kids stopt going on holiday with them, they changed after a while to the 7. It also takes less time to heat in winter and also less fuel. But.... it also depends a bit on how tall you are 😉. Enjoy the Outdoors and Stay Safe! Cheers, Gijs
Great review as usual. I’ve camped with a Robens Klondike, even put it on a trailer on an ebike . Really like the shape for camping, but at over 16kg not really bike camping tent without a ebike and trailer, I don’t really want to use a trailer or ebike all the time. Some of the tentipi range like onyx lite are just about usable weight wise on a bike although still on the heavy side. The thing is you could still hide a couple of bikes in them for days hiking or sightseeing etc. So as you are a man of infinite knowledge would you consider using one on a bike or often in my case an ice sprint trike. Also the lite version loses the cotton advantage how does that compare? Thanks Kev
Hi Kevin, Wow... "a man of infinite knowledge"... really I don't know everything 🙃. But I would not use a 7CP on a bike or ice sprint trike. Maybe with a trailer but... no. Yes, not cotton loses a lot of advantages except space.... so hiding would still be possible. And I have a old not cotton Helsport tipi and we use that one quite often when weight is an issue... So rethink and come back to me with more questions. Enjoy the Outdoors and Stay Safe! Cheers, Gijs PS Do you know this tent: www.vaude.com/en-GB/Equipment/Tents/Backpacking-Tents/Chapel-L-XT-3-Persons-Backpacking-tent
Hello! What model of G Stove is yours? It's the XL? I want to know which G Stove is the best for the Safir 7 tent! Wonder if the light one it's just enough, thinking that the XL is heavier! Thank you!
Hi! I am not sure. I was able to borrow it from a dealer in The Netherlands and I think it was a Medium. Enjoy the Outdoors and Stay Safe! Cheers, Gijs
I like the fireproof mats from winnerwell www.winnerwell.com/page119?product_id=684 or the floor from Moosecamp: www.moosecampwebshop.nl/a-64026125/grondzeilen/moosegear-grondzeil-voor-tentipi-7/#description I use a cowhide.... works perfect
Dear Thanaphan, I am not sure what you mean. In warm countries the cotton fabric is nice because it 'breathes' and on the top you have a chimney so warm air escapes. The fabric is waterproof so good for rain. The chimney has a special sleeve for the stove pipe so with a stove it is also nice in the cold. Does this help? Gijs
Gave video! We waren eerder naar een andere aan het kijken merk Robens type Kiowa, maar je hebt ons aan het twjfeleb gebracht. We hebben nu een tunneltent (zwaar en groot verpakt) en komen van type Esvo/De Waard tent af en dit roept oude vertrouwde herinneringen op. Is dat raar? We twijfelen.......
Beste Jeroen, Waar twijfel je dan aan? Katoen is fijn! Ja, zwaar maar soms maakt dat niet uit. Bellen mag ook voor overleg hoor. Nummer staat op de website. Alleen... ik ben ver weg van de bewoonde wereld en heb niet altijd bereik. Groet, Gijs
Hi RE, Some do, some don't. It depends on brand and configuration. I have a mesh opening and only very little rain or snow gets in. And when the fire is burning... it only get past the first 20 cm and then it is vapor. Enjoy the Outdoors and Stay Safe! Cheers, Gijs
Bigger is better: a 9 for sure or maybe even 15. I have friends with the same family configuration and they have a 9 and are happy with it. But it is also depending on age of the kids so a 15 might be the more safer option if you need space inside with bad weather. From your name I don't have a clue where you are from and where you go camping. This makes a difference too. Let me know if I can help. I am easy to reach by phone if you prefer that. Cheers, Gijs
@@OutdoorguruGearReviews i'm from Europe, Romania, but i preffer also to be as lightweight as possible, the perfect balance between weight and inside space. i plan to carry it with my back
@@OutdoorguruGearReviews i want a mobile homelike shelter for long, long time spending, which is close to the home living, and after lots of research i found that Tentipi is the best option, but very heavy to carry unfortunatly... hope you understand my english.
Gijs wouldn't you prefer the Safir 9 CP for a family of 4+ after all? (and a medium stove with extra windows on the side giving nicer ('infra red') heat as well). 7CP probably for 2. There is a cheaper Tentipi with one ventilation opening variant. Not Ten Cate technical cotton. But still technical cotton (think around 30% cotton). The Bell tent (also technical cotton) is a lot cheaper and more space but not as good looking as Tentipi. Hard choices.
Hi Afitlife, No, I would not. We are a small - in cm - familiy of four and like the easy setup op the 7. Friends have a 9 and yes, it is more spacious and when you stay on one spot longer is is fine but they always struggle with pitching. Now they sold the tent and bought a .... 7. Stove with windows: YES! Bell tent.... NO. 😄. Enjoy the Outdoors and Stay Safe!
@@OutdoorguruGearReviews I checked both tents yesterday and I think I prefer 9 over 7. Its a lot more space for a small amount more. There is even a family (of 4) carrying the 9 while cycling. I don’t think there is much of a pitching problem. Maybe when you camping in your garden. The bell tent is a different kind and reminds my more tribes in Asia. But Ten-tipi giving the Indian vibes. Both have its charm. You can find both with Ten Cate materials. Its all a personal choice.
Personal choice, sure! But a 22.5 kg tent on a bike is not my cup of tea. Pitching, not the space the height. Getting a chimney in at 3.6 meter is for me with 1.7 meter not that simple ;-)
@@OutdoorguruGearReviews I was thinking the same. But it seems they do with a small trolly behind the bike. And they pitch in less than 10 minutes it seems. No matter the seize. True I’m a big guy and need some space.
Hi! Mooie video, die ons helemaal op het spoor van de Tentipi heeft gezet. Én van de Gstove. Wat ziet er gezellig uit. Jij gebruikt een koeienhuid onder je stove. Gebruik je daarvan de leerzijde? En is dit net zo veilig als een brandwerende mat? Weet jij of er kwaliteitsverschil in de huiden zit? Zelfs Ikea verkoopt ze nu.
Excuus voor het late antwoord maar ik was even echt weg ;-). Ik gebruik de vachtzijde... vind ik mooier en kan erg goed tegen vallende vonken al kan het soms stinken. Daarnaast is het lekker zacht (en mooi). Net zo veilig.... weet ik niet maar in de praktijk kan ik geen nadelen vinden. Een huid is wel groot. Ik denk zelfs dat de Ikea huiden brandwerend behandeld zijn. Zou je even moeten navragen. De mijne komt gewoon van Marktplaats voor een prikkie. Helpt dit? Groet, Gijs
Johan, that would be sweet but no... that you have to buy as an extra. But there are many models on the market that fit he Tentipi and not all are expensive. Hope this helps. Cheers Gijs
That's why I won't buy one ,no zip in floor ,why wouldn't they do that ,know how much money they have lost ! Who wants snakes and rats and bugs crawling on you !
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This video helped me greatly in my decision to purchase a Safir 7 and a G Stove. We are a couple who would like to use cots on formal sites, and sleeping mats on wild camps, and be able to properly cook. I was concerned that the Safir 7 might not be big enough for us to live and move around comfortably-I was really worried that it might be too cramped, and so I was mainly considering a Safir 9.
Eventually, after much asking around, I decided to order a 7.
Let me tell you-if, like me, you are coming from a standard 2 person tent to a Safir 7, you will be amazed at the sheer scale of the thing! It is a MASSIVE upgrade. More like a small bothy, but still very cosy. Total luxury! Plenty of room for up to four adults to move around without pressing against the tent walls, and can easily sit up in a chair. Tons of room for 2 people, especially if we were to use lower cots or sleeping mats.
The headroom height is superb-the videos, as good as this one is, never communicate the size and roominess of these tents. When you see one in person, you’ll be amazed.
Haven’t slept in it yet, but considering the size of the 7, I am SO GLAD I never went for the 9. It would be way too large and empty feeling.
The manufacturer advises you to set up the tent and soak it before using. Aye, good luck! We literally threw buckets of water at it for nearly an hour-not a drop soaked in! It all beaded and ran right off like a duck’s back!
Will update after the weekend, but right now, I am completely in love.
Update soon
UPDATE:
We took our Safir 7 out for a trial night last weekend, with cots and a G Stove. A few thoughts:
1) Practice setting up the pegs. We have still to get the hang of this, but on our third or so try, managed to get it (mostly) right. Even very minor slopes and contours will alter where to peg out the tent. Our door panel was a little too loose, and we are also struggling to get the pole straight in the middle. It always seems to be just a little off.
2) The floor is tricky to get perfect too. We had certain sides that were too high, or too low. We have the pro-floor, and it took us a good while to set it up properly. Still unsure how to properly attach it to the door area.
3) We were hit by extremely high winds- the loose door panel came unhitched from its peg, and the wind blew in underneath the pro-floor, letting in big draughts and generally causing a bit of chaos. Subsequently I think we lost quite a lot of heat throughout the night. Although I already knew this, the pro-floor needs to be: Secured and attached all the way round; Pulled tight via the outer lower straps; Folded over the green outer flaps and; Weighed down, preferably all the way round the tent, to prevent flapping, blasts of wind and heat loss.
4) Despite the gale winds, the tipi was largely secure. It also rained for most of the night, and we were absolutely delighted to never experience a drier tent. However: because the stove pipe doesn’t secure tightly around a tent protector, you will get small drops of rain that come vertically into the tent. These usually landed on the stove, evaporating immediately. They were also tiny and inconsequential.
5) We kept the G Stove running all night, which burned approximately one bag of wood (oak). The normal size G Stove is just right for the Safir 7-I think that it would be too cool for a size 9 in Winter. We were sleeping on cots, and it was definitely noticeably cooler the lower you sit in the tent, and the further you are from the stove. However, it is generally very cosy, and far more comfortable than a normal, unheated tent. You will still need a good sleeping mat, and a good three season sleeping bag for winter, though.
But there is one thing that I cannot exaggerate enough:
This tent feels like your own little holiday home. It’s so cosy at night, and genuinely beautiful once it’s set up, glowing with a lamp inside. I absolutely love it.
I’ll come back with some more thoughts in future, and I am considering making my own in-depth video.
Hope this has been helpful to someone!
Andrew, Thank you for your detailed reaction and taking us in your decision. Have fun with the tent! Cheers, Gijs
Outdoorguru No, thank you Gijs! I think I’ve watched this video close to a hundred times-it was incredibly helpful. So much that I hope to post my own video on the Safir 7. Hope you and the family are well!
Thanks again!
Andrew.
@@happymaskedguy1943 Andrew, Sorry for the late reply but I was in the mountains and I am visiting the ISPO trade show and there is little time left for social. We are fine and thanks for asking ;-)! Cheers, Gijs
Andrew Wood The Safir inner tent... will solve the wind & loss of heat problems..! No one ever thinks that the inner is not necessary... however it’s an intricate part of the tents system and worth every penny... I have one and it’s CLASS..!!!!
Thanks for this! I too am undecided between the two sizes. May I ask if a double wide mattress fits comfortably away from the centre pole/fire? I sleep with my wife on a 132cm wide air mattress and wondered if it would be claustrophobic on the side next to the tent wall if I tried to keep some space away from the centre firebox, which may throw off sparks. Regards and happy camping!
Thank you for reviewing Tentipi Products.
I purchased the Safir 9 CP with a stove and we are always so comfortable even when camping in Alberta, CANADA in February.
I enjoy your channel and appreciate you taking the time to do the reviews for us all.
Thank you for the sweet words HRDS 👍😄. Enjoy the Outdoors and Stay Safe! Cheers, Gijs
you did a great job with this video, I saw the hunter walking behind your scene in blaze orange. great video
Thank you so much for this demonstration. I just today heard about this tipi tent.
Hi MLC, You are welcome🙏. Enjoy the Outdoors and Stay Safe! Cheers, Gijs
Thank you 😊for sharing this 🙏 tent and stove tutorial. Awesome 👌video 🙏
You are welcome🙏. Enjoy the Outdoors and Stay Safe! Cheers, Gijs
Thank you so much for an extremely informative review. All the best for now and happy camping.
Fear Jon, U R Welcome ;-)) Same to you! Gijs
Thank you for a great review I wasn't sure what tent to buy, I'm definitely buying the tentipi as I shall be living long-term in my tent, best wishes to you keep safe, Russell
Nice! Enjoy the Outdoors and Stay Safe! Gijs
A great quality setup for sure
Great review. I bought one last year but didn't get a chance to use it as much as I wanted so hoping 2019 is better. Now looking for a stove so thanks for pointing out the Gstove.
Mike, Thank you so much for the feedback. The Gstove is a fine stove in relation to the price. There are other more fuel efficient ones though. Let's hope 2019 is better for you. I am hoping fo a bit worser weather: Sweden - my holiday land - was crazy warm en no fires allowed. I am happy now with cool wet weather. Cheers Gijs (Please subscribe and follow me on IG and FB ;-))
Such a nice tent, thanks for the review! I'm considering getting one to live out of for long periods of time instead of a camper trailer or roof top tent while car camping/overlanding. I also appreciate you showing the Gstove, looks like a solid stove! And a lot more affordable compared to the Eldfell, which I'm sure is a great stove. Plus I love the window :)
Ryan, Thank you for the compliment! Yes the window is super. There are others with windows but not in this price range to my knowledge. Enjoy Christmas en Happy New Year!
Great review but what is the flooring make you mentioned at 15:48?
Dear Dektobrentic, It is from Moosecamp. A Dutch Tentipi specialist: www.moosecampwebshop.nl/search/?search=grondzeil
@NoHillary Hi! Here you should be able to find it: tentipi.com/en-gb/contact-us-usa Cheers, Gijs
Great video I was thinking of the gstove xl for Tentipi 7, you said you added the spark arrester and hear arrester? Did you add any extra chimney pieces also or is it just the right height as purchased? Thank you, mark
Hi Mark, I think I had 9.5 sections in total and the spark arrester on top of that one. The height of a 7 is 270 cm so with standard 6 sections you only get to 234 cm. Does this help? Enjoy the Outdoors and Stay Safe! Cheers, Gijs
@@OutdoorguruGearReviews thank you yes Iv ordered the xl so stands 260cm Iv ordered the heat arrester and the spark arrester and an extra chimney section so should be perfect for the 7, appreciate your reply keep up the great work, thanks mark
Ps mines is the zirkon 7 so a little lighter than the safir I do have the safir 15 with edfel pro but maybe a little to big for the 7 so have my own little community going ha, thanks again, mark
Very good review. Thank you.
Another good review. Thanks Outdoorguru
JP, I try, I try ;-) This one could also be more than a hour. So much to tell about a nice tent. Next review will be a smaller item though. And thank for the compliment!
Great video thanks, I have just got one of these used but I don’t have the pegging out template, I know I can buy these aftermarket but I don’t know the distance the line should be for placing the pegs. Can you help with that? I have the Safir 7. Cheers
Hi Skye, Why do you not have it. It should be in the package. I don't have the 7 anymore.....I send it back after the review. Sorry. Enjoy the Outdoors and Stay Safe! Cheers, Gijs
Thanks, I got it used. I have now bought one and made my own tape. 👍🏼
Glad that it worked out 👍.
Thanks for the review, great watch
You are welcome Ashley☺. Enjoy the Outdoors and Stay Safe! Cheers, Gijs
Nice tent & review, they're called toggles. 👍🇬🇧😀
Hi Old Git (No offence ;-)). Toggles!!! Thanks so much I have been looking for that word for ages. And thanks for the compliment. Enjoy the Outdoors and Stay Safe, Gijs
@@OutdoorguruGearReviewsA short rod of wood or plastic sewn to one side of a coat or other garment, pushed through a hole or loop on the other side and twisted so as to act as a fastener. 😀
@@OutdoorguruGearReviews according to the fact you are from a wealthy Western European country, your English knowledge is rather miserable..
Dutch seems to be a superficial kind of people, lacking healthy self criticism ;)
@@OmmerSyssel What did I do to you to deserve this? Enjoy the Outdoors and Stay Safe! Gijs
The toggles are a PITA at -30°C. I use small carabiners which are way faster to install the floor.
Hi Michael, Yes they are and thanks for the tip👍. Enjoy the Outdoors and Stay Safe! Cheers, Gijs
Good work! Thank you Outdoorguru!
Dear Ron, U R Welcome! Enjoy the Outdoors! Gijs
I went for the light weight version, it works well on a bike😎
Hi Kevin, Smart move! Have fun with the tent. Enjoy the Outdoors and Stay Safe! Cheers, Gijs
Good reweview
Onca can also do with out floor or fold the middel sectiin on the floor up to habe a normal campfier in the tent. Thats what I like with it so a stof is not a nesessety. But the stov makes the air cleaner tho.
Mooie uitgebreide review! Wij waren vorig jaar ook in Zweden, en we hebben je zelfs op de snelweg nog ingehaald in NL of Duitsland! Na 1 prima vakantie in DK en Zweden in een Spatz Wigwam 5 BTC overwegen wij nu ook de Safir 7 of 9 voor wat extra ruimte. Aangezien ik 192cm ben spreekt de 9 ons iets meer aan. ICM de grootste luifel en de bysonil footprint.
Sorry voor mijn wat late reactie. Ik heb je comment helemaal over het hoofd gezien. Waar kwam je ons tegen? En met hoeveel ben je? De 7 vind ik een mooie maat, de 9 al snel erg groot maar ja... 169 cm 😋. Enjoy the Outdoors and Stay Safe! Cheers, Gijs
@@OutdoorguruGearReviews We haalden je in ergens op een snelweg. Ik denk het in Duitsland was, geen idee meer waar precies.
Wij zijn met zijn 3-en. Bij Moosecamp hebben we de 7 in de lichte variant en 9 Safir bewonderd. De 7 geeft niet eens zo heel veel meer ruimte dan onze Wigwam 5, en geeft ook iets minder sta-ruimte dan de 9. Maar we blijven nog even twijfelen 🙂 De meerprijs en het iets hogere gewicht van de 9 zijn te overzien, het ruimtecomfort doet me meer die kant op bewegen. De Bach WickiUp5 /Spatz Wigwam 5, ga je die ook nog eens reviewen? Ik ben benieuwd naar je oordeel daarover. Lichte, redelijk ruime familietent waar ik niet snel een concurrent voor zie, zeker niet in BTC materiaal.
Great Tent 👍😀
A great review thank you
Thank you Alwyn! Enjoy the Outdoors and Stay Safe! Gijs
The Moosecamp floor is cheaper than the TenTipi, but does not having those zips cause problems? If we want to roll it away from the door area in case of rain or wet boots?
Richard, I put a towel on it to prevent dirt.... and they are easy to clean since they are so heavy and solid executed. Maybe they can make one with zipper for you. They might do it, there ok people. Enjoy the Outdoors and Stay Safe! Cheers, Gijs
@@OutdoorguruGearReviews Thanks. I've ordered the Moosecamp. Hopefully not too long in the post. (Hoping to book a test long weekend at the end of the month).
I've also ordered the G-Stove heat proof mat. Not ordered a stove yet, but the hope if/when I do is the mat will protect the groundsheet underneath it. Is any more insulation needed on top of that? (I remember being impressed by the small plumbers mats when soldering pipe a long time ago before they days of push fit, so wonder if this is a similar product.)
I've ordered the Safir 9 for the family of 5. A lot of money! Hopefully it will serve for years as a great family tent.
Thank you for this review - it's one of - (perhaps the?) - best I've seen on the Tentipi Safari 7. After months of dithering over whether to get a Tentipi or a bell tent, I have just bought the Safari 7, together with the pro floor and clothes hanger. Now I am trying to decide which stove to get. I think I've decided on the Winnerwell Woodlander View Medium, for the combination of its flexibility (heating, cooking, portability), build quality, weight, the wide range of cooking accessories, and the ambience created by the two glass sides. I see you have reviewed this stove favourably for the Safari 5 tent (also helpful, thank you). My question is, do you have any idea how many additional pipe sections I will need to buy to safely clear the top of the Safari 7? (I have noted the need for a double or triple-walled protector). I have not been able to find this information from any site or review I've looked at so far and was wondering whether you just knew?! (I estimate it's likely to be 3 or maybe 4). Wishing you all the best!
Hi Lou, Sorry for the late reply but it has been busy and the Christdays 😉. The Safir is 270 cm heigh if I remember correctly. The pipe of the stove is 146 cm in total plus the height of the stove so you probably need 4. If you want to make sure: call Sander from moosecampwebshop.nl. He is the guy behind Tentipi and Winnerwell in The Netherlands. Give him my regards. Thanks for the compliments👍. Enjoy the Outdoors and Stay Safe! Cheers, Gijs
@@OutdoorguruGearReviews Thank you, that's very helpful.
Great review - very well done, and thank you. As a potential Tentipi owner, doing his research, snakes, poisonous spiders and bull ants getting in to a tent are a potential issue. As I understand it, the optional full inner fixes this issue, but of course with extra expense and removing a little of the room inside the tent. Have you either used or tried one with an inner, and approximately how much room do you loose? Appreciate your thoughts; I am not able to see one before taking the plunge, so your review and comments are greatly appreciated! Many thanks :-)
Dear John, Yes, I have seen them and been in them with a full inner tent and space is limited a bit. The tent stays fully functional with the stove though and in winter the tent is a bit warmer ;-). If bugs and snakes is a real issue I would go for the inner tent but with the normal floor in we hardly have ant in the tent. The floor sides are quite high. Hope this helps. Cheers, Gijs
Thank you so much for the response. I'm in Australia, so coping with poisonous wildlife, and very hot temperatures are the main issues, rather than cold weather - although of course we have that as well - jus not as much, and not as cold as Europe.. :-)
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@@Pisceanboi I wish we had that, The Netherlands is sometimes a bit to boring to me. But heat and polycotton work wel together
John McLeod You could always go for a 9 with an inner?
@@happymaskedguy1943 I would agree - an inner would be the only way to foolproof the tent against ingress of anti social wilderness critters of the poisonous and biting type. I find the floor arrangement a bit fiddly from a design POV, and it also adds to the expense - I would've thought a zip in floor would be easier, but no doubt Tentipi had their reasons for building it as they have.
I think that Gstove is bigger model = XL and cost 380 euro ! Nice Video ! 🍺🍺🍺
I'll check with the manufacturer and come back on this.
Hello! I have a question about cowhide. Doesn't the heat from the stove damage the hide? The grass under my Winnerwell stove always gets very dry. I also bought a cowhide for my Tentipi Safir 7. Now I'm wondering if I need an additional heat protection mat. What is your long-term experience? Best wishes from Germany! 😊👍🏻
Hi WW, My cowhide is still fine after spending many days under my stove so I wouldn't worry about it. Enjoy the Outdoors and Stay Safe! Cheers, Gijs
@@OutdoorguruGearReviews Thank you very much! ✌️
Great review !
Taktak SnowyOwl ;-) Cheers, Gijs
Thank you so much for the very informative review! Happy camping! What do you think about the version Safir 5, is it possible to use the stove or the fire box in that version?
Dear Angyal, I didn't see your question before, now I do.... I am a bit lost: one RUclips systems shows your comment, the other one doesn't... It's not my habit reacting after two weeks. Answer: yes, the 5 would be no problem with stove or firebox. Happy Camping too! Gijs
Outdoorguru
Thank you so much for your advice and kindness! I will buy the 5.
Yes, sometimes RUclips does not send alerts on time, sometimes even after a very long time. I experienced regarding to another channel ‘s live videos as well.
Thank you so much for your advice once again..
@@angyalrita Thanks for telling me I am not alone ;-))))
Would you consider 9 over 7, as the footprint isn’t that different i.e. 4,5m vs 5m however volume inside is very different, or would you stick to 7 when two adults ?
Hi Egil, I would go for the 7. The 9 has more space but also more weight. I find the 7 the perfect one between 5 and 9. I know some friends who had a 9 with the kids. When the kids stopt going on holiday with them, they changed after a while to the 7. It also takes less time to heat in winter and also less fuel. But.... it also depends a bit on how tall you are 😉. Enjoy the Outdoors and Stay Safe! Cheers, Gijs
Great review as usual. I’ve camped with a Robens Klondike, even put it on a trailer on an ebike . Really like the shape for camping, but at over 16kg not really bike camping tent without a ebike and trailer, I don’t really want to use a trailer or ebike all the time. Some of the tentipi range like onyx lite are just about usable weight wise on a bike although still on the heavy side. The thing is you could still hide a couple of bikes in them for days hiking or sightseeing etc. So as you are a man of infinite knowledge would you consider using one on a bike or often in my case an ice sprint trike. Also the lite version loses the cotton advantage how does that compare? Thanks Kev
Hi Kevin, Wow... "a man of infinite knowledge"... really I don't know everything 🙃. But I would not use a 7CP on a bike or ice sprint trike. Maybe with a trailer but... no. Yes, not cotton loses a lot of advantages except space.... so hiding would still be possible. And I have a old not cotton Helsport tipi and we use that one quite often when weight is an issue... So rethink and come back to me with more questions. Enjoy the Outdoors and Stay Safe! Cheers, Gijs PS Do you know this tent: www.vaude.com/en-GB/Equipment/Tents/Backpacking-Tents/Chapel-L-XT-3-Persons-Backpacking-tent
Merci beaucoup l'Ami !
You are welcome and thanks for the support! Enjoy the Outdoors and Stay Safe! Cheers, Gijs
Thanks for a nice video, Outdoorguru!
Is the size 7 big enough for a family of 6 persons? Or would it be more comfortable getting the size 9 instead?
No, I would go for the 9. You need the extra space with 6.
Hello! What model of G Stove is yours? It's the XL? I want to know which G Stove is the best for the Safir 7 tent! Wonder if the light one it's just enough, thinking that the XL is heavier! Thank you!
Hi! I am not sure. I was able to borrow it from a dealer in The Netherlands and I think it was a Medium. Enjoy the Outdoors and Stay Safe! Cheers, Gijs
Could you recomend a tipi carpet?
I can but for what tent and purpose? Do you use a stove? Enjoy the Outdoors and Stay Safe! Cheers, Gijs
@@OutdoorguruGearReviews the safir 7, going to get a ground sheet but i want something ontop of it.
I like the fireproof mats from winnerwell www.winnerwell.com/page119?product_id=684
or the floor from Moosecamp: www.moosecampwebshop.nl/a-64026125/grondzeilen/moosegear-grondzeil-voor-tentipi-7/#description
I use a cowhide.... works perfect
How the air flow and can use at hot regain country ? It suitable for mostly hoy and rain?
Dear Thanaphan, I am not sure what you mean. In warm countries the cotton fabric is nice because it 'breathes' and on the top you have a chimney so warm air escapes. The fabric is waterproof so good for rain. The chimney has a special sleeve for the stove pipe so with a stove it is also nice in the cold. Does this help? Gijs
Gave video! We waren eerder naar een andere aan het kijken merk Robens type Kiowa, maar je hebt ons aan het twjfeleb gebracht. We hebben nu een tunneltent (zwaar en groot verpakt) en komen van type Esvo/De Waard tent af en dit roept oude vertrouwde herinneringen op. Is dat raar? We twijfelen.......
Beste Jeroen, Waar twijfel je dan aan? Katoen is fijn! Ja, zwaar maar soms maakt dat niet uit. Bellen mag ook voor overleg hoor. Nummer staat op de website. Alleen... ik ben ver weg van de bewoonde wereld en heb niet altijd bereik. Groet, Gijs
i assumed tent chimneys had some kind of "hat" on top, to prevent rain/snow entering..
Hi RE, Some do, some don't. It depends on brand and configuration. I have a mesh opening and only very little rain or snow gets in. And when the fire is burning... it only get past the first 20 cm and then it is vapor. Enjoy the Outdoors and Stay Safe! Cheers, Gijs
Can you please tell me what oven this is? And what size?
Dear Daniel, It's this one: www.gstove.com/gstove/12004/gstove-heat-view-camping-stove-compact-with-high-effect-plus-glass-door Cheers, Gijs
What stove is used and is it available for sale
Hi Todd, Did you watch the video or read the description below? You'll find your answers there. Enjoy the Outdoors and Stay Safe! Cheers, Gijs
What safir would you recommend for 2 adults and 3 kids with a stove inside ?!
Bigger is better: a 9 for sure or maybe even 15. I have friends with the same family configuration and they have a 9 and are happy with it. But it is also depending on age of the kids so a 15 might be the more safer option if you need space inside with bad weather. From your name I don't have a clue where you are from and where you go camping. This makes a difference too. Let me know if I can help. I am easy to reach by phone if you prefer that. Cheers, Gijs
@@OutdoorguruGearReviews i'm from Europe, Romania, but i preffer also to be as lightweight as possible, the perfect balance between weight and inside space. i plan to carry it with my back
@@eu3145 ok....... You really want a technical cotton tent then? Maybe the more lightweight Tentipi's are easier.
@@OutdoorguruGearReviews i want a mobile homelike shelter for long, long time spending, which is close to the home living, and after lots of research i found that Tentipi is the best option, but very heavy to carry unfortunatly... hope you understand my english.
@@eu3145 Your English is fine! And yes I do understand. If you want you give me a call. Is maybe more easy. Number is on the website.
Gijs wouldn't you prefer the Safir 9 CP for a family of 4+ after all? (and a medium stove with extra windows on the side giving nicer ('infra red') heat as well). 7CP probably for 2. There is a cheaper Tentipi with one ventilation opening variant. Not Ten Cate technical cotton. But still technical cotton (think around 30% cotton). The Bell tent (also technical cotton) is a lot cheaper and more space but not as good looking as Tentipi. Hard choices.
Hi Afitlife, No, I would not. We are a small - in cm - familiy of four and like the easy setup op the 7. Friends have a 9 and yes, it is more spacious and when you stay on one spot longer is is fine but they always struggle with pitching. Now they sold the tent and bought a .... 7. Stove with windows: YES! Bell tent.... NO. 😄. Enjoy the Outdoors and Stay Safe!
@@OutdoorguruGearReviews I checked both tents yesterday and I think I prefer 9 over 7. Its a lot more space for a small amount more. There is even a family (of 4) carrying the 9 while cycling. I don’t think there is much of a pitching problem. Maybe when you camping in your garden. The bell tent is a different kind and reminds my more tribes in Asia. But Ten-tipi giving the Indian vibes. Both have its charm. You can find both with Ten Cate materials. Its all a personal choice.
Personal choice, sure! But a 22.5 kg tent on a bike is not my cup of tea. Pitching, not the space the height. Getting a chimney in at 3.6 meter is for me with 1.7 meter not that simple ;-)
@@OutdoorguruGearReviews I was thinking the same. But it seems they do with a small trolly behind the bike. And they pitch in less than 10 minutes it seems. No matter the seize. True I’m a big guy and need some space.
A trolly makes sense. No stove I suspect ;-)
Hi! Mooie video, die ons helemaal op het spoor van de Tentipi heeft gezet. Én van de Gstove. Wat ziet er gezellig uit. Jij gebruikt een koeienhuid onder je stove. Gebruik je daarvan de leerzijde? En is dit net zo veilig als een brandwerende mat? Weet jij of er kwaliteitsverschil in de huiden zit? Zelfs Ikea verkoopt ze nu.
Excuus voor het late antwoord maar ik was even echt weg ;-). Ik gebruik de vachtzijde... vind ik mooier en kan erg goed tegen vallende vonken al kan het soms stinken. Daarnaast is het lekker zacht (en mooi). Net zo veilig.... weet ik niet maar in de praktijk kan ik geen nadelen vinden. Een huid is wel groot. Ik denk zelfs dat de Ikea huiden brandwerend behandeld zijn. Zou je even moeten navragen. De mijne komt gewoon van Marktplaats voor een prikkie. Helpt dit? Groet, Gijs
Is the stove inculded with the tent?
Johan, that would be sweet but no... that you have to buy as an extra. But there are many models on the market that fit he Tentipi and not all are expensive. Hope this helps. Cheers Gijs
@@OutdoorguruGearReviews okay thank you so much for the response!
@@johannhandoko where are you from?
@@OutdoorguruGearReviews i'm from indonesia 👌
@@johannhandoko Nice!
Have you tried this in heavy winds? How well do you think it would hold up to very very heavy winds?
Yes, no problem at all. Enjoy the Outdoors and Stay Safe! Cheers, Gijs
That's why I won't buy one ,no zip in floor ,why wouldn't they do that ,know how much money they have lost ! Who wants snakes and rats and bugs crawling on you !
I do understand but in Scandinavia that is not a real issue. But I have a tent with a full bathtub floor for other occasions. Cheers, Gijs