Other guns that were removed: - OTs-14 (Later split up into the GROZA-1 and GROZA-4) - MP5KA4 (Burst MP5K) - MP5SD5 (Burst MP5SD) The SVK12E was a simple semi AK12 DMR at one point, the Burst was added later. The PPK12 at first was a fully auto secondary pocket AR added alongside the SAIGA-12U, which later was reworked into a PDW, made to fire 9x19mm and a Burst. In the CTE period, the Deagle .44 and .50 were moved to Revolvers which was rebranded to "Magnums" because the MP412 REX was the only revolver in the game at that time. The APS was indeed the underwater AK, but with a very lazy model and locked at Rank 999. The OICW was a whole different gun with a placeholder G36C model which I cannot really talk much about because I barely know about it.
the OICW was a gun that basically a gun that had a built in under barrel grenade launcher, it was bulky and was later split into the XM8 modular assault rifle and the the XM25 grenade launcher
About the MP5A4, for the MP5 in the “Other” section there is a mod. Called “Burst grouping” that makes it like MP5A4 (without reduced damage) Edit: its also on MP5SD, MP5K, MP5/10 and MP10
I would add another lmg probably the pkm, m249 or m240b but i think the m240b could be the best choice to add because of the weight of the gun. Could make it like the NTW to shoot only if crouched or prone with high damage and slow reload/ movement speed.
I have a very funny meme ammo idea that revolves around the flash bang grenades that were previously in the game. Zvezda Shells for the KS23. Essentially when you shoot a target it’ll completely blind them but at the same time it will do no damage. It will allow for some hilarious plays and also would be the weapon of chaos
Out of these, I'd definitely add the SVK12E back, even if it were just an AK12BR conversion or something. The playstyle would be interesting to test out especially if it had hyperburst XD If I were to add any gun though, it'd be the EM-2 Jansen rifle, basically the grandfather of the SA80 series, a battle rifle from 1951 featuring a 20rnd mag, chambered in .303 British. The rifle has a flapper-lock bolt system similar to that of the German G43, allowing it to automatically chamber a new round when inserting a mag from an open bolt. Super cool, punchy, high damage and recoil, and with a cool integral scope and backup iron.
The APS AK was actually a gun for Russian frogmen (millitary divers) and it shoot these long spear like bullets and that’s why it has so little damage because the bullet was meant to Pearce wet suits and not body armor
You should see the PF wiki's community. It's pretty nice nowadays but extremely sparse. I have a series of posts going where I build PF guns out of lego.
When he mentioned the mg42 my eyes lit up because I remember how much fun I had with it when it was in the test place and it is very sad to see it was never added to the main game because then we can actually do accurate Normandy beach storming if it was added
I thought it was cool in the test place, however it really wasn't that different from the MG3 in terms of gameplay to where it maybe would be better to add it as a conversion or something later to the MG3. Though I'll say idk why they changed their mind on that, but not any of the 15 different types of M4s in the game
The difference in real life between the MG42 and the MG3 is the caliber. The MG42 used 7.92 and the MG3 now uses the NATO standard 7.62 caliber rounds. And yes, the Germans still use basically the exact same machine gun as their evil predecessors used.
I would love to have SVK12E re-added (if that's ever possible). I had used it years back, and, like the M4, i don't like Burst, until I began to love that weapon. that would be first DMR to have Burst (excluding VSS as that DMR has only Semi & Auto, whereas the SVK, only has burst, nothing else)
Doing a little more research and I found a trivia about the mg42 and the ak15. For the mg42 I heard that it was change to be a developer weapon. For the ak15, it actually have a successor in the form of the ak12br, since both share similar stats Edit: the OICW is also an actual gun. It's a some kind of prototype AR that is really weird but futuristic looking, and trust me it looks nothing like the g36c
@@stromyepd6717 The grenade launcher part fires airburst grenades that can be set to detonate at certain distance, or behind a wall. It's the XM25, which is an absloute menace in BF4.
I remember MG42. It had like 1600 firerate and had stupid amount of damage. Good thing it wasn’t added. I really hope that they add back SVK at least as a conversion, maybe OICW. I also hope to see XM-8 and F2000 one day.
Surprised to see how many people forgot about the og ppk12. It was originally a secondary other. It was auto with a 20 round mag then it became semi then turned into the smg version.
Sten was acually a real weapon wich was used by germans and it was basicly a modified Sten Gun from the british army but sadly these modified ones are either scrapped or are lost in a place so idk if they survived the war (like few examples of the modified ones) or they werent used in the war as mutch than anything else that they had
I originally had a part of the script where I talked about the sten clone used by the Germans that they made vertical but it got too wordy; honestly I'd love to see more crude / unpolished weapons like that in game
To explain to the people what’s the difference between the sten and the Sterling/L2A3 STEN literally a tube made by some crack head shed cheaply made but weird to hold on Sterling/L2A3 is a Lancaster all the wood was removed given a pistol grip a simpler design and a folding stock That’s the difference also the Lancaster is a British rip of the MP-18
For those that dont know, the AK-50 is an actual thing, youtuber Brandon Herrera has made a fully functional ak chambered in 50 beowulf, and has been working on one chambered in 50 bmg for years now. The beowulf ak was dubbed the AK-50 Lite. I would recommend checking out Brandons channel if you are interested, he's a cool dude.
The kalashnikov firearms are mostly named after the year they were designed, not the caliber at all. AK50 would be the equivalent of an AKM since it was designed in 1949
I would love to see the Browning added, with the NTW aiming mechanic and either a butt ton of spread or a butt ton of recoil in effort to make it balanced, but i feel like it would still be really op, even then.
@@treestar22 Good ideas to balance it! I could also see the browning or a more traditional minigun weapon being used in a sort of juggernaut gamemode which would be neat.
Never say never; everything old becomes new again. Crafting this video took time, but it is impressive and inspiring. These guns will return.. will return.
4:17 JHP means Jacketed Hollow Point it was made to have a little penetration (even if not much) while still being able to rip flesh after the jacket disposed
Through out all the additions of the rifles, smg,shotguns, lmg stylis has STILL not manage to add the m1 garand except gave us a vietnam ditched rifle that wasn't even the latest battle rifle used by military to date and an old springfield rifle that has a weird iron sight
I'm surprised about both the m1 Garand and the m249 not making an appearance. There's really a lack of LMGs compared to everything else and it's kinda disappointing 😩
P08 Luger or P38 Walther, both very iconic firearms. Both never added to the game and I don’t accept „But listen Mister it’s a weapon used by a regime“, while the person that holds and uses a weapon is responsible for its reputation in the mind it isn’t responsible for the reputation in a battlefield. Secondly how can we get a STG44 with an Independence Day Update, but not a Luger with an WW2 Update!?
There was supposed to be a WWII update forever ago, I forgot what the update was going to be called but it looks like they scrapped it, threw in the stg44 early and called it a day. Idk if anything else is gonna happen with that.
Subscribe pls, I spent super long on this
I already did 3 years ago when you just played ar 1 and passed to ar 2
I shall not subscribe for I, Red, have already been subscribed for over a year.
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Hay Steven I have a good gun the hk433
how do you get thet sticker.
Other guns that were removed:
- OTs-14 (Later split up into the GROZA-1 and GROZA-4)
- MP5KA4 (Burst MP5K)
- MP5SD5 (Burst MP5SD)
The SVK12E was a simple semi AK12 DMR at one point, the Burst was added later.
The PPK12 at first was a fully auto secondary pocket AR added alongside the SAIGA-12U, which later was reworked into a PDW, made to fire 9x19mm and a Burst.
In the CTE period, the Deagle .44 and .50 were moved to Revolvers which was rebranded to "Magnums" because the MP412 REX was the only revolver in the game at that time.
The APS was indeed the underwater AK, but with a very lazy model and locked at Rank 999.
The OICW was a whole different gun with a placeholder G36C model which I cannot really talk much about because I barely know about it.
MSR was replaced by the L115A1 as they literally had the same exact stats
The mp5sd is in the game somewhere dunno what makes it
the OICW was a gun that basically a gun that had a built in under barrel grenade launcher, it was bulky and was later split into the XM8 modular assault rifle and the the XM25 grenade launcher
@@aviationautist iirc it later became the project for the g36 rifle, hence the g36 model in game
3:43 Funnily enough, when you put on an eotech on the l2a3 in the main game, it gets attached with a spongebob tape as a reference to the sten gun.
They took so long to add the c7a2 like 5 years after they alpha 💀
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The mg42 also had a light bolt attachment that would increase rpm. Combined with muzzle booster it would empty the mag in under 2 seconds.
how much dps? lmao
@@shawnlee1862 Yes
About the MP5A4, for the MP5 in the “Other” section there is a mod. Called “Burst grouping” that makes it like MP5A4 (without reduced damage)
Edit: its also on MP5SD, MP5K, MP5/10 and MP10
I would add another lmg probably the pkm, m249 or m240b but i think the m240b could be the best choice to add because of the weight of the gun. Could make it like the NTW to shoot only if crouched or prone with high damage and slow reload/ movement speed.
i would prefer the m249 since most lmgs arent belt fed
M240 is also belt fed lol. So is the PKM
@@ranehan7726 ok cool. dont think they would add another ak tho
imagine .22lr lmg like mgv
@@youmumyon1880 they are adding 22lr to aug hbar
I am working on my own fps game, and I am modelling the guns for it. I cannot agree more that the older guns have a charm to them.
8:10 probably because the deagle is a revolver irl
JHP stands for Jacketed Hollow Point - a hollow point cartridge with a jacket so it can still penetrate armor.
Wow that’s actually cool
If we got the ak50 but actually a 50 caliber round we would need to introduce Brandon to this game
I wouldnt bring a gun back, I would bring the space maps back. They are my childhood nostalgia.
The MG42 would be cool in phantom forces if they add a 100 round drum magazine along side with the MG3KWS
I remember base Luna. It was for the rogue one update in 2016
this is arguably one of your more interesting videos, i'd love to see these being added back at some point...
I have a very funny meme ammo idea that revolves around the flash bang grenades that were previously in the game. Zvezda Shells for the KS23. Essentially when you shoot a target it’ll completely blind them but at the same time it will do no damage. It will allow for some hilarious plays and also would be the weapon of chaos
Out of these, I'd definitely add the SVK12E back, even if it were just an AK12BR conversion or something. The playstyle would be interesting to test out especially if it had hyperburst XD If I were to add any gun though, it'd be the EM-2 Jansen rifle, basically the grandfather of the SA80 series, a battle rifle from 1951 featuring a 20rnd mag, chambered in .303 British. The rifle has a flapper-lock bolt system similar to that of the German G43, allowing it to automatically chamber a new round when inserting a mag from an open bolt. Super cool, punchy, high damage and recoil, and with a cool integral scope and backup iron.
"Guess who back, back again"
- MG42 april 2023
sees AK-50
*laughs in Brandon Herrera*
State of Anarchy has the Underwater AK's rounds, 5.66x120. I don't know if SoA has the AK as well but I can hope.
Stylish Studio is never back at disappointing us
The APS AK was actually a gun for Russian frogmen (millitary divers) and it shoot these long spear like bullets and that’s why it has so little damage because the bullet was meant to Pearce wet suits and not body armor
You should see the PF wiki's community. It's pretty nice nowadays but extremely sparse. I have a series of posts going where I build PF guns out of lego.
Imagine they make a toy soldier as a equipment
Only OGs remember the l115a3
the railgun is like the bfg but ntw and i saw someone with it
APS is an underwater assault rifle, so no wonder about dmg
When he mentioned the mg42 my eyes lit up because I remember how much fun I had with it when it was in the test place and it is very sad to see it was never added to the main game because then we can actually do accurate Normandy beach storming if it was added
I thought it was cool in the test place, however it really wasn't that different from the MG3 in terms of gameplay to where it maybe would be better to add it as a conversion or something later to the MG3. Though I'll say idk why they changed their mind on that, but not any of the 15 different types of M4s in the game
@@SomeSteven because stylis
I just really want a WW2 update
meaning SVT-40, G43, K98k, PPS, Tokerrv TT33, Lee enfield, Bren and a whole bunch more
the aps isnt an airsoft gun its actually an underwater assualt rifle primarily used by russian frogmen
ih nvm i take it back you already mentioned it
The difference in real life between the MG42 and the MG3 is the caliber. The MG42 used 7.92 and the MG3 now uses the NATO standard 7.62 caliber rounds. And yes, the Germans still use basically the exact same machine gun as their evil predecessors used.
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@@slobberknocker7944 shut the hell up, cheerah man is speaking facts
until they didn't und 'upgraded' to the MG5 (HK121) using 5.56
MG5 use 7.62, the one that use 5.56 is MG4
I would love to have SVK12E re-added (if that's ever possible). I had used it years back, and, like the M4, i don't like Burst, until I began to love that weapon. that would be first DMR to have Burst (excluding VSS as that DMR has only Semi & Auto, whereas the SVK, only has burst, nothing else)
yeah its in the test place right now
mp5a4 exists, burst grouping on the mp5 family
Doing a little more research and I found a trivia about the mg42 and the ak15. For the mg42 I heard that it was change to be a developer weapon. For the ak15, it actually have a successor in the form of the ak12br, since both share similar stats Edit: the OICW is also an actual gun. It's a some kind of prototype AR that is really weird but futuristic looking, and trust me it looks nothing like the g36c
Ah okay so they must have just been using the G36C as a placeholder model, gotchu
looked into the oicw rifle and its just 2 guns weilded together (one 5.56 and 2nd one nade launcher) but it looks like mx8 wich isnt in a main game
@@stromyepd6717 The grenade launcher part fires airburst grenades that can be set to detonate at certain distance, or behind a wall.
It's the XM25, which is an absloute menace in BF4.
Just use .17 on m107 and you have railgun with out one shot torso
Man I miss OG phantom. I joined day one after playing Call of robloxia, and remember all these old deleted guns.
The Skorpion Evo IS getting added
We shall wait for them to add all the old weapons that was removed
I would add a rpg-7, but it has 1 rocket. I wouldn’t make it any gun type, I would put it in the grenade category
I remember MG42. It had like 1600 firerate and had stupid amount of damage. Good thing it wasn’t added.
I really hope that they add back SVK at least as a conversion, maybe OICW. I also hope to see XM-8 and F2000 one day.
faster reload at the same time too it was like 180 rank or something mg42
Surprised to see how many people forgot about the og ppk12. It was originally a secondary other. It was auto with a 20 round mag then it became semi then turned into the smg version.
Hope they add another ak50 for when Brandon Herera and his team finish working on it
Sten was acually a real weapon wich was used by germans and it was basicly a modified Sten Gun from the british army but sadly these modified ones are either scrapped or are lost in a place so idk if they survived the war (like few examples of the modified ones) or they werent used in the war as mutch than anything else that they had
I originally had a part of the script where I talked about the sten clone used by the Germans that they made vertical but it got too wordy; honestly I'd love to see more crude / unpolished weapons like that in game
Like a ship builder teaches their workers to long for the immensity of the sea, Steven teaches gamers to enjoy gaming more and more.
JHP likely stood for jacketed hollow point, which was later shortened to just hollow point
i met with a mod 2 days ago and he was using the railgun and his friend or some other mod used the gold hb416 or whatever that funny lmg is called
3:32 classic phantom forces lobby
The airport map at 1:08 was so fun to play on, massive shame it was never added
I hope they add the SIG M260 or SIG M5 Spear
I missed the lunar map it was so fun to just jump really high and wack players with a melee. Good times
I'd readd the APS cuz its a very unique weapon
“These guns are gone forever…”
All the fortnite kids:
*ZAPATRON*
90% of children had no clue what Fortnite even was at that time
To explain to the people what’s the difference between the sten and the Sterling/L2A3
STEN literally a tube made by some crack head shed cheaply made but weird to hold on
Sterling/L2A3 is a Lancaster all the wood was removed given a pistol grip a simpler design and a folding stock
That’s the difference also the Lancaster is a British rip of the MP-18
For those that dont know, the AK-50 is an actual thing, youtuber Brandon Herrera has made a fully functional ak chambered in 50 beowulf, and has been working on one chambered in 50 bmg for years now. The beowulf ak was dubbed the AK-50 Lite. I would recommend checking out Brandons channel if you are interested, he's a cool dude.
Just a little info I decided to drop in: The mg42 is now a mod weapon iirc
You forgot about the Gold Hawk but good luck finding anything on it i've only ever used it a couple of times
0:04 real PH og’s remember this menu. So many memories
i remember the railgun from the moon map
Your actually the goat, This helped so much thank you.
What about the M249? It got added I think in 2015, and removed sometime in 2016-2017. I hope they bring it back soon.
Fun fact: M249 was never i the game. You got mixed up with Modded Phantom Forces.
I just wanna see the MPX and the MCX into the game. Upgradable to almost Assult Rifle Varients. Low Damage, okay firerate, but low recoil.
the deagle 50 wasn’t a revolver for long back in the CTE, i used it often and it was definitely right under the deagle 44
5:02 i actually got to use the railgun a couple days ago cause a admin asked if anyone wanted to use it and i got to it was pretty cool
you could actually see the SVK12E on the wall of the old lobby, always wondered why it was there
The kalashnikov firearms are mostly named after the year they were designed, not the caliber at all. AK50 would be the equivalent of an AKM since it was designed in 1949
Personally, I'd like to see more ww2 weapons like the lugar, m1 garand, and maybe even a m2 browning if you want to go really crazy.
I would love to see the Browning added, with the NTW aiming mechanic and either a butt ton of spread or a butt ton of recoil in effort to make it balanced, but i feel like it would still be really op, even then.
@@treestar22 Good ideas to balance it! I could also see the browning or a more traditional minigun weapon being used in a sort of juggernaut gamemode which would be neat.
@@SimplyCrashed That would be amazing!
i miss the mg42, we need a new lmg
What I want added are Sig Sauer pistols. Kinda strange we don't have one yet. HK and Beretta pistols too.
Ah yes, P250 time
your Sticker model is beautiful
hey im actually in a video. 4:44 guy with mp5
Id really like to see an 5v5 or an 4v4 in phantom forces with the flashes and smoke granades
the mg42 was removed due that it was too hard to balance it
Never say never; everything old becomes new again. Crafting this video took time, but it is impressive and inspiring. These guns will return.. will return.
4:17 JHP means Jacketed Hollow Point it was made to have a little penetration (even if not much) while still being able to rip flesh after the jacket disposed
The APS is an underwater gun for scientists
god that old PF loadout screen. the game was so wild back then, i miss it
i would add the gm6 lynx
a .50 bmg cqc gun cmon cant be not fun
Yea i once used railgun for some reason
I subbed to you a few minutes ago, like 20 seconds later you uploaded yet another sick vid
They should really flesh out the other weapon categories like LMGs and Snipers. Kind of stupid there is like double the ARs that there are LMGs.
Bruh I want those real events and especially event maps again
the MSR has a gameplay video of it, albeit on Lost Media hell. I don't know if RUclips removed it or OP decided to unlist it.
AR57 conversion for the M4.
THE P90 M4???? YESSIRRRRR
Rail gun just be looking fire
3:42
THE ORIGIN.
THE ORIGIN OF THE CHEESE TAPE!
J.H.P. Ammo is Jacketed Hollow Point Ammo
Fun fact: the AK15 exists ingame (kinda), its the AK12C they look the same (but 1 is yellow) and they both are in 7.62
Mp5k has a burst conv lol
Through out all the additions of the rifles, smg,shotguns, lmg stylis has STILL not manage to add the m1 garand except gave us a vietnam ditched rifle that wasn't even the latest battle rifle used by military to date and an old springfield rifle that has a weird iron sight
I'm surprised about both the m1 Garand and the m249 not making an appearance. There's really a lack of LMGs compared to everything else and it's kinda disappointing 😩
@@SomeSteven Also the revolver category.
My personal favorite removed gun is the AR-15/50. Mostly because I’m a simp for .50 Beowulf
at this point im nit even surprised an phantom forces player would say "the MG42 looks like the MG3"
We need more amphibious rifles in games, shame the APS was scrapped
The MG42 is a mod weapon at the moment
Also if you want to see more CTE Footage, then AgentJohn2 has a bunch of it on his archive. Check him out!
There is footage of the original c7a2 on Lito’s channel, It’s in phantom forces update video 9!
A mod was in my game so i got to use the railgun
bro what was that deagle setup at the last part lmaooo
P08 Luger or P38 Walther, both very iconic firearms. Both never added to the game and I don’t accept „But listen Mister it’s a weapon used by a regime“, while the person that holds and uses a weapon is responsible for its reputation in the mind it isn’t responsible for the reputation in a battlefield.
Secondly how can we get a STG44 with an Independence Day Update, but not a Luger with an WW2 Update!?
There was supposed to be a WWII update forever ago, I forgot what the update was going to be called but it looks like they scrapped it, threw in the stg44 early and called it a day. Idk if anything else is gonna happen with that.
@@SomeSteven What a shame, maybe one day though..
I love that one guy spinning after killing you lol
brother?
the old model of the c7a2 is what it looks like on the ground