That’s how we know she knew to begin with. She immediately attacked her child’s perspective instead of protecting and shielding her. Even his prior wives knew.
I think it's more to ot than than. Khloe is actually and has a Nasty and Terrible personality on TV and media She horrible n no amount of outer surgery n money will do to change it
She’s very smart she knew that’s why they were more of room mates after the kids were born Kylie and Kendall and Kris admitted to knowing the tried female hormones in the 80s. And I’m sure she found some of his bags of woman’s clothes or caught him in the act it was just hush hush. Wasn’t right to do that to poor Khloe she’s been thru so much. But also to cut Caitlin completely out of there lives because of it was kinda sad. I think Kris knew but was embarsssed when he came out.
Because it’s not her business and Khloe big mouth would’ve told All of Hollywood smh She talks too much about everyone else business… But doesn’t want anyone in her business.
They weren’t gaslighting her the complexities of outwardly transition is hard enough without kids let alone 3 step kids and being famous on top of it. Caitlin’s business is not khloes . the three Kardashian sisters were never supportive of Caitlin transitioning anyways
I mean they were each other’s half and you got to be very connected to someone to open yourself on such a thing. And as a partner, she didn’t have to expose him like it was everyone business. She was protecting her family and also finding a way to deal with and protect the youngest ones who at that time were probably toddler.
Exactly. And not even this incident, they have gaslit her for her entire life and made her out to be the not cute, chubby, problematic sister… when in reality, she has always been the most level headed and intelligent. I love listening to Khloe speak because she is actually INCREDIBLY smart and eloquent.
@@CarlosSDCA I'm agreeing with you, it's being way blown out of proportion just because these people are famous and people want to be mad at them. If I found a wig one day as a child, I would not be traumatized for years. It's a wig.
It's traumatic because the man that raised her has been hiding this secret and his true identity the whole time. Not sure why that's shocking or hard to understand..
If you guys notice in all the Keep with K episodes she would always fight or have disagreements with Bruce , she always had that feeling that he was lying to everyone.
Ya would know something is wrong. I always know when something is wrong yet i can never identify what is wrong, which leads me to investigate, I will find it and more. She who seeks finds lol
For all of you saying the wife knew, my kids dad came out as gay 6 months after we split up. I didn’t know but i wasn’t surprised. During our relationship there were signs, but when you are in something with someone and you have kids and they aren’t just honest about it, you are in denial about the obvious and struggling to make things work. He also drank a lot. So no, we don’t always know. What’s obvious to the outside isn’t obvious to those in the thick of it.
Can we stop saying that men who have children with women are gay? Gay men don’t sleep with women. Gay men don’t have children with women. If he was willing to lay with you, and go all the way until a baby happened, he’s not gay. Just like a heterosexual man would feel no arousal with another man, gay man aren’t out having kids the “common” way. That’s a bisexual man with a possible same-sex preference or some complex about his bisexuality and he didn’t want to be in a relationship with a woman anymore.
YES, Kris knew. Bruce had already started transitioning when he met Kris, and he stopped after they started their relationship. She knew before they got married.
@@datstudjai8841 I can't tell you his name because he's never been caught. He's still unknown. I don't even know where he is now. He left me and my mom a few years ago. But we still meets up at our house sometimes whenever he contacts us. The only thing I know is that he does not live in this country anymore. Fr tho, my dad wasn't a nice man when he was in his 20s. I believe that he might have involved in some kind of murders because both me and my mom found a lot of suspicious items in his box in the basement.
Bruce was fine if things went Bruce’s way. It was after the move to the bigger house that Bruce hounded everyone to death and started changing and was mad at khloe and Kourt and khris . It wasn’t as shocking Bruce was doing the dressing it was that Bruce was so open now
and they didn’t just go and find the evidence? and what kind of father is bruce/caitlyn to let his daughter (step) go through that and be told she’s a liar??
he should have done a better job hiding that stuff, especially with little nosy children in the house.😮 but after she found it, they basically told her she is crazy
It would have been so easy to just say they were Kris’ and Bruce let them store them there because she had limited space in her closet and she didn’t want the kids to see her sx toys lol
What meal ticket? You think that The Kardashian father didn't leave money for them in his passing. They also had to daughters together Bruce and Kris. So there was definitely a tie together because of the kids. Now Kris Knew but was in denial about it. I remember in one of the episodes before they had split and he had gotten that Malibu house as a second home to get away from all of the drama. She found a pair of women's shoes size. 12 in his closet and asked him, "whose shoes are those"? And I can't remember what excuse he made or if any. But it was werid. Watch the episode. Its right towards the end of their relationship on their show. Just type in Bruce gets caught with shoes in closet at Malibu home. 😆
@beastfam251 You do know that when they got married, Robert Kardashian was alive, right? After Robert divorced her for cheating, she went back to where she started since Robert was just paying for the kids, not her lifestyle. Bruce had money. It was her way out of working like a regular person.
@marielaausher they have never worked like a regular person but if you say so . But either way she got child support and yes probably alimony even of she did cheat and then he probably left her some money and the kids. They were friends when he died. Good friends they had kids together him and Bruce got along so yeah.
People just love to downtalk someone's parenting but keep in mind she was a preteen little girl and Caitlyn didn't come out until like 20 years later. Put yourself in their shoes.
If I was in their shoes I would take it seriously because there should be no reason I shouldn’t know about why she found that. And if I knew already I wouldn’t treat my child like that because it’s scary enough to not know what to do about that but to be attacked as well…
So you gaslight a CHILD and call them a liar. Really? You think this should just another ‘everyone likes to criticise’. It’s not. And you what people to put themselves in the shoes of a GROWN MAN that was her PARENT. But you care ZERO about putting YOURself into the shoes of a CHILD, whose father died around this SAME time and looked to Bruce as a father, you don’t put yourself in HER shoes, to see how WRONG it is to call her a LIAR. Instead of saying it was the mother’s wigs or something. No, just call a CHILD a liar. Just cause he was wearing women’s clothes, doesn’t make HIM the VICTIM. Her feelings as the CHILD are more important . That’s what people like you don’t want to understand 🙄😒 Baby an adult but JUSTIFY gaslighting a CHILD. Pathetic
Kris knew all along . When she met Bruce at the time he was on hormones and started having breast development, to the point he (and I say he as when he identified as Bruce ) had lipo and excess skin removed to flatten them.
@@N.Ortxx0I always felt like if Kim and Kourtney weren’t her sisters, the world would’ve seen her beauty sooner. It’s just they got so praised for their looks and she has a different look and got compared to that
It was obvious 20+ years ago, little by little his makeup, earrings, mannerisms and clothing became more feminine. We all knew he wanted to be "one of the girls"
Kris said she knew he liked to cross dress, she said she had no idea he wanted to be a woman. It was said right away that the family left to do something and Kim came back home to see Bruce in full drag (not sure the proper term). She just kept it to herself. Caitlyn was the one to say she saw and knew the whole time.
I can't imagine how shocking that must have been for them as kids. It's so strange and weird to me, I don't understand why he went on to marry women and have kids as a husband and father.
@@Thecutest_Giraffe I remember the last episode I saw just before Caitlyn was premiered. They all went to Bali and Bruce had all his kids from previous relationships there too. They had several physical activities planned and he was telling the guys to man up and he was very aggressive about the activities too. A couple months later and we have Caitlyn.
Kim told how she found him in full dress up mode makeup and everything but never told anyone until after he came out. Say what they want about Kim but she does have loyalty down to a science
How traumatizing …. I mean y’all do realize that means during the filming of KUWTK they knew Bruce wanted to be a female and they knew he had thoughts about transitioning… well Kris knew at least. But those girls aren’t stupid, they had to of knew something wasn’t right. And also every time one of the girls clothes would randomly disappear then pop back up… like the situation with Kris’s dress, I’m sure Bruce was the one taking them, especially when they would see him in dresses… probably was Kris’s dresses the whole time.
I’m watching it RIGHT NOW! You won’t believe the things I’m picking up on. 1. Season 3 Episode 4- Bruce is seen wearing a purple shirt with a rainbow 🌈 flag on the collar. 2. I felt that Kris was taunting him with a colonoscopy appt. As if they knew then. She said” I get to go to Vegas while Bruce has to Get a colonoscopy- He definitely showed signs then.
She knew. She admitted that Bruce told her before getting married (while dating) that he had been taking female hormones, and he liked dressing like a woman. She just figured it would be a hobby and noy his plan to actually become a woman. She willingly shared underwear with him. It's weird, but hey.. it's Hollywood 🤯
And no one came to the idea to go to the closet and seeing all the stuff he had there by thereselfs? instead they jus told here she was lying.. poor khloe
I think when she stated she didn’t think her mom knew , she was implying that she didn’t think her mom knew “ they “ were gaslighting her. So she’s basically trained to make her mom look like the good guy. They were alllll gaslighting her but for a second she almost exposed kris for the disgusting, lying, narcissistic, toxic & evil demon that she truly is 😮💨 Hopefully one day they can break free from the chains of kris and speak their truth 💯 Ps. To all the comments saying she knew who he really was , it was already said that kris knew BEFORE that got married who Bruce or Caitlyn really was 😮💨
That guy robbed over 20 years of Kris' life. Had he just been honest Kris could have been married to a true husband. Instead of that sham of a marriage they had.
Ummmm Bruce SAID Kris knew early on and they spoke on it. Thats why he wore socks in the house because he had his toes done. Khloe knows she lying because she first said she told everyone but then said she don't recall if her mom knew. Khloe was such a strong willed child she definitely ran to her mom. 😅
Why would you believe what Bruce says? I don't. Nobody wants to acknowledge the trauma and pain that the wives of these men go through. Everyone wants to be woke and clap for the person going through their "journey" of transition, but nobody spares a thought for the woman behind the scenes who is probably confused and frightened and angry and doing her best to keep her family together.
I LOVE HER LOOK HERE ..FACE AN ALL .. I WISH SHE STILL KEPT HER FACE LIKE THIS. I KNOW SHE HAS AGED FROM HERE BUT THE NEW LOOK REALLY MAKES THEIR FACES MORE SCULPTED MANLY. FROM CHICK INJECTION AN BOTOX AN FACE LIFTS 😢 SHES SO BEAUTIFUL. THE MOST BEAUTIFUL ONE OUTTA ALL OF THEM....ALLLLLL... PERSONALITY BRINGS OUT BEAUTY NOT DITSY GLAM . LIKE HER SISTERS. I ALWAYS KNEW SHE WAS THEEEE MOST GORGEOUS 😍
Kim said she walked in on Bruce dressed up as a woman when she was in her late teens I think. Bruce thought he was home alone as the family was going on a trip somewhere but then Kim dashed back home to retrieve something. After the encounter, Kim and Bruce apparently never spoke of it to each other or anyone else and just moved on like nothing happened. Say what you want about Kim but she has a different heart.
I believe this, when Bruce and Kim had a sit-down scene after he started transitioning, there was this tension between Kim and Bruce. I couldn't tell what it was, but now that you've stated this, it was because Kim knew, and Bruce knew she had known all along but kept it to herself. Was Kris that desperate for money?
Caitlyn and Kris owe jer qn apology for lying to her face and accusing her of lying to hide themselves thats demented im not even suprised from those 2
That's horrible to call your child a liar like that. And they knew she was NOT lying 🙄 😒 Kim said she saw him all decked out as a woman at least once when she was younger. 😖
I can imagine it happening to all of the sisters that way. The Spidey sense is a real thing. You brush it off after it hits you because of doubt and a little denial. ‘Nah’, you tell your self. And forget about that cap for Kris. She knew. The first wife might have even told her or confirmed what Kris’s own Spidey senses were telling her. Fast forward.
Kris knew. Allegedly, she talked him into not taking female hormones after they got together. I read that Bruce thought he was born in the wrong body since he was a child. Way before the Olympics etc.
🤔🥺 they announced their separation October 2013 🤔Kris Meet Corey August 2014 She Filed for a Divorce September 22, 2014 (finalized March 23, 2015 ) 🤔 Bruce started his transition into Caitlin in April 2015 that's the only thing that he got out of divorce was to become Caitlyn
to be okay with confusing your child in this way and having them most likely believe that they are lying or that they didn’t see what they saw is just wrong. it teaches them they cannot trust their own senses, it messes with their psyche. also they cannot trust you and it’s almost more heartbreaking because they do not know they cannot. *do not gaslight your children* please
There’s always more to the story. We will never know the truth and I will still like this family regardless. No throwing stones when we live on a glass house.
I literally hate watching anything that has to do with the Kardashians because I once love them and everything with Diddy coming to the light just shows them in a completely different character
I have compassion for Kris. She might have felt like something was off and found some stuff bt she fought her mind because she loved him and probably also because wives in these sceneries feel like failures and I have never seen Kris fail but that's wat I would feel if I was in her shoes
Ummm, it is well known that Bruce had begun transitioning before meeting Kris and when they started dating she convinced him to stop. She knew what it was but he was her meal ticket & pretended everything was normal.
This just proves how unhealthy that family is. Telling a child that she's lying and gaslighting her to protect a toxic secret is pointless and damaging.
The episode when Bruce got his ears pierced I KNEW. He was very happy because he felt more feminine. Btw I love how everyone in the comments says Bruce 😂😂
My opinion, she is the realist out of all of them yeah the mamas the OG but she never say anything to the public about him. She always felt this way. That’s why I fuck with her. She is different.❤😂🤣😭
Oh trust me, Kris knew. Wives are usually the first to catch on to this
Yup
And she loved it too😂😂
Not always a Man literally lied his wife’s for 12 years being straight it came out i think months ago
Kris knew and didn't say nothing 😂
I think Kris knew also...but for her and Bruce to gaslight Khloe and call her a liar is next level toxic
Kris knew and should have just acted like it was hers instead of calling her child a liar
Exactly what I was thinking
That’s how we know she knew to begin with. She immediately attacked her child’s perspective instead of protecting and shielding her. Even his prior wives knew.
@@BlendedBarbieDollwell it's kind of hard not to notice if your own underwear starts going missing
@@iamme496 thank youuuu
Yeah some trigger mothers will go along with people bashing their kid
I’m convinced this is why Bruce always seemed to hate Chloe so much and constantly put her down for her weight, looks etc. it was projection.
This is a great point
Agreed
Because SHE KNEW
Damn!!! This!!! ❤😢
I think it's more to ot than than. Khloe is actually and has a Nasty and Terrible personality on TV and media
She horrible n no amount of outer surgery n money will do to change it
so basically they were gaslighting her😮not surprised, I'm sure Kris knew, she is a smart woman
She’s very smart she knew that’s why they were more of room mates after the kids were born Kylie and Kendall and Kris admitted to knowing the tried female hormones in the 80s. And I’m sure she found some of his bags of woman’s clothes or caught him in the act it was just hush hush. Wasn’t right to do that to poor Khloe she’s been thru so much. But also to cut Caitlin completely out of there lives because of it was kinda sad. I think Kris knew but was embarsssed when he came out.
Or maybe she was oblivious and didn’t want to believe it
Because it’s not her business and Khloe big mouth would’ve told All of Hollywood smh
She talks too much about everyone else business…
But doesn’t want anyone in her business.
They weren’t gaslighting her the complexities of outwardly transition is hard enough without kids let alone 3 step kids and being famous on top of it. Caitlin’s business is not khloes .
the three Kardashian sisters were never supportive of Caitlin transitioning anyways
You don't have to be smart to know that your husband swings the other way
Kris definitely knew & was ok with it until Bruce begin to slowly transition & It became apparent on the show. Kris knew the jig was up🤷🏽♀️
But it’s okay because she made sure that by that point she was established and could provide for her family without him. 🙊
I mean they were each other’s half and you got to be very connected to someone to open yourself on such a thing.
And as a partner, she didn’t have to expose him like it was everyone business.
She was protecting her family and also finding a way to deal with and protect the youngest ones who at that time were probably toddler.
I remember when he wanted his ears pierced and he was whining about growing his hair out
Doesn't excuse gaslighting her daughter and letting her spouse talk shit about her
@@TT.3123umm the older kids dad didn't leave them hurting... they've always been wealthy
As much as I adore my husband…if my child comes to me…she’s going to be heard loud and clear not gaslit
Good
The best thing ever! My mom was like this, didn’t even question she just moved accordingly & I’m grateful for that 😊❤️
Same here ❤
So this is why she was so mad. They all gaslit her half to death about something so confusing.
💯
Exactly. And not even this incident, they have gaslit her for her entire life and made her out to be the not cute, chubby, problematic sister… when in reality, she has always been the most level headed and intelligent. I love listening to Khloe speak because she is actually INCREDIBLY smart and eloquent.
Wrong 😢😢😢😮😮😮😮
@@MoFerociono😅😅😅
@@MoFerocioI’m not a big fan, but when I did watch she seemed the most forthcoming and relatable (as far as that goes) one.
No wonder Khloe is always mad and talks to Kris like she does 😂makes sense now. They gaslit her and made her think she was a crazy liar . 😅
Khloe was always treated a certain way because she was too honest and questioned her parents
Shame on Bruce and Kris for treating her that way. No wonder Khloé talks to them the way she does (and the rest of the kids for that matter).
May you send a link of what you're talking about? I've only seen Khloe being really good with her children
@@killjoy.beauty ruclips.net/video/2I20tJBW7HQ/видео.htmlsi=djTq1-tK2eJLldr8
Damn Bruce!! No wonder u be smashing Kris up the Hershey hwy 24/7 and not wanna hit that GASH !! Cause u sick- FOK !! Cause u be a Fudge - cycle 🎉😂😅😅
Constantly wanting the brown 🟤🟤 eye 👀👀 👀 ya feel me ma Ni____a !!
Khloe is just as much as POS parent and person.
thats huge childhood trauma right there...
Finding the wigs? Or being dismissed and not taken seriously? The first, NAH.
@@CarlosSDCA It's literally not that serious, it's a dress in a plastic bag like calm down
@@ytscrownjewell calm down about? I just don't get what's the childhood trauma. Finding a wig or a dress? big deal. lol.
@@CarlosSDCA I'm agreeing with you, it's being way blown out of proportion just because these people are famous and people want to be mad at them. If I found a wig one day as a child, I would not be traumatized for years. It's a wig.
It's traumatic because the man that raised her has been hiding this secret and his true identity the whole time. Not sure why that's shocking or hard to understand..
If you guys notice in all the Keep with K episodes she would always fight or have disagreements with Bruce , she always had that feeling that he was lying to everyone.
I watched one episode recently she was complaining about him wearing 2 diamond earrings 😭😭😭
Further proof Kris knew
she knew from the beginning. it's been discussed
It's still on Bruce for not living the way he wanted to live, and marrying her.
of course she knew
Of course she knew
Ya would know something is wrong. I always know when something is wrong yet i can never identify what is wrong, which leads me to investigate, I will find it and more. She who seeks finds lol
For all of you saying the wife knew, my kids dad came out as gay 6 months after we split up. I didn’t know but i wasn’t surprised. During our relationship there were signs, but when you are in something with someone and you have kids and they aren’t just honest about it, you are in denial about the obvious and struggling to make things work. He also drank a lot. So no, we don’t always know. What’s obvious to the outside isn’t obvious to those in the thick of it.
She knew. Bruce's previous wife - he told her what he was and she divorced him because of it. She knew.
What were the signs?
Well, then you still knew. Saying you were in denial is confirmation of that. You knew. You just didn't want it to be true.
@@LavenderDream-j5hExactly
Can we stop saying that men who have children with women are gay? Gay men don’t sleep with women. Gay men don’t have children with women. If he was willing to lay with you, and go all the way until a baby happened, he’s not gay. Just like a heterosexual man would feel no arousal with another man, gay man aren’t out having kids the “common” way. That’s a bisexual man with a possible same-sex preference or some complex about his bisexuality and he didn’t want to be in a relationship with a woman anymore.
YES, Kris knew. Bruce had already started transitioning when he met Kris, and he stopped after they started their relationship. She knew before they got married.
I do remember hearing that in the tv special Bruce had to reveal herself as Caitlin.
My first reaction would have been Dad is a serial killer lol 😅😂😂
😂😂😂
That still may be true
My dad was. 😂
@@dakotawinchester what's his name
@@datstudjai8841 I can't tell you his name because he's never been caught.
He's still unknown. I don't even know where he is now. He left me and my mom a few years ago. But we still meets up at our house sometimes whenever he contacts us. The only thing I know is that he does not live in this country anymore.
Fr tho, my dad wasn't a nice man when he was in his 20s. I believe that he might have involved in some kind of murders because both me and my mom found a lot of suspicious items in his box in the basement.
Lower the music!!!
Space song by beach house
it’s perfect fine, and there’s subtitles for a reason if you can’t hear khloe
it's about 10 decibels too loud and everyone knows it@@blankspvce
YES please
Bruce was fine if things went Bruce’s way. It was after the move to the bigger house that Bruce hounded everyone to death and started changing and was mad at khloe and Kourt and khris . It wasn’t as shocking Bruce was doing the dressing it was that Bruce was so open now
and they didn’t just go and find the evidence? and what kind of father is bruce/caitlyn to let his daughter (step) go through that and be told she’s a liar??
Well in the 90’s being trans wasn’t as acceptable. So I’m sure he was shitting bricks when she says that.
he should have done a better job hiding that stuff, especially with little nosy children in the house.😮 but after she found it, they basically told her she is crazy
those rich ppl don’t care about their kids or their kid’s trauma that’s why. 😂
It would have been so easy to just say they were Kris’ and Bruce let them store them there because she had limited space in her closet and she didn’t want the kids to see her sx toys lol
Kris knew the whole time, but Bruce was her meal ticket
She wasn't going to let it go that easily
best comment❤
Kris is a freak Scorpio she was domming hard
What meal ticket? You think that The Kardashian father didn't leave money for them in his passing. They also had to daughters together Bruce and Kris. So there was definitely a tie together because of the kids. Now Kris Knew but was in denial about it. I remember in one of the episodes before they had split and he had gotten that Malibu house as a second home to get away from all of the drama. She found a pair of women's shoes size. 12 in his closet and asked him, "whose shoes are those"? And I can't remember what excuse he made or if any. But it was werid. Watch the episode. Its right towards the end of their relationship on their show. Just type in Bruce gets caught with shoes in closet at Malibu home. 😆
@beastfam251 You do know that when they got married, Robert Kardashian was alive, right? After Robert divorced her for cheating, she went back to where she started since Robert was just paying for the kids, not her lifestyle. Bruce had money. It was her way out of working like a regular person.
@marielaausher they have never worked like a regular person but if you say so . But either way she got child support and yes probably alimony even of she did cheat and then he probably left her some money and the kids. They were friends when he died. Good friends they had kids together him and Bruce got along so yeah.
People just love to downtalk someone's parenting but keep in mind she was a preteen little girl and Caitlyn didn't come out until like 20 years later. Put yourself in their shoes.
If I was in their shoes I would take it seriously because there should be no reason I shouldn’t know about why she found that. And if I knew already I wouldn’t treat my child like that because it’s scary enough to not know what to do about that but to be attacked as well…
Bruce was never nice to Khloe
So you gaslight a CHILD and call them a liar. Really?
You think this should just another ‘everyone likes to criticise’. It’s not.
And you what people to put themselves in the shoes of a GROWN MAN that was her PARENT.
But you care ZERO about putting YOURself into the shoes of a CHILD, whose father died around this SAME time and looked to Bruce as a father, you don’t put yourself in HER shoes, to see how WRONG it is to call her a LIAR.
Instead of saying it was the mother’s wigs or something.
No, just call a CHILD a liar.
Just cause he was wearing women’s clothes, doesn’t make HIM the VICTIM.
Her feelings as the CHILD are more important .
That’s what people like you don’t want to understand 🙄😒
Baby an adult but JUSTIFY gaslighting a CHILD.
Pathetic
You expect a child to be stronger than a fucking adult. TWO adults.
Imagine being called a LIAR by BOTH your parents.
Where’s your compassion now.
That should be the moment everyone starts being honest children shouldn't go through gaslighting to keep lies secret
Kris knew all along . When she met Bruce at the time he was on hormones and started having breast development, to the point he (and I say he as when he identified as Bruce ) had lipo and excess skin removed to flatten them.
Her nose looked good here
Yes, it looked like Rob K
She looked so beautiful here .. what a shame
It was before her mom bullied her into a nose job. She talks about how her mom made fun of her nose since she was a little girl.
Khloe was so beautiful. I hate that she felt she had to change her looks to fit a certain beauty standard set by her sister.
@@N.Ortxx0I always felt like if Kim and Kourtney weren’t her sisters, the world would’ve seen her beauty sooner. It’s just they got so praised for their looks and she has a different look and got compared to that
How dare they do that to her. Probably not the first time. Way to scar your kid.
That’s incredibly damaging leading her to struggle with self-care in her younger years 😨We love you Khloe, your soo beautiful💕❤️
I don't understand what motivates some people to call a kid a liar when they say or report something serious.
All of them knew about Bruce
Khloe used to look so beautiful she looks so different now imo 😢❤
I was gaslit by both my parents. You absolutely do not love your child if you do this to them.
I hate when adults accuse kids of lying when really they know its true they just don't want to have to explain
It was obvious 20+ years ago, little by little his makeup, earrings, mannerisms and clothing became more feminine. We all knew he wanted to be "one of the girls"
It's crazy when you tell someone what you witness about their significant other, they say you're lying.
Kris said she knew he liked to cross dress, she said she had no idea he wanted to be a woman. It was said right away that the family left to do something and Kim came back home to see Bruce in full drag (not sure the proper term). She just kept it to herself. Caitlyn was the one to say she saw and knew the whole time.
I can't imagine how shocking that must have been for them as kids. It's so strange and weird to me, I don't understand why he went on to marry women and have kids as a husband and father.
The music is sooo annoying
@@Thecutest_Giraffe I remember the last episode I saw just before Caitlyn was premiered. They all went to Bali and Bruce had all his kids from previous relationships there too. They had several physical activities planned and he was telling the guys to man up and he was very aggressive about the activities too. A couple months later and we have Caitlyn.
That’s called ✨gaslighting✨
Kim told how she found him in full dress up mode makeup and everything but never told anyone until after he came out. Say what they want about Kim but she does have loyalty down to a science
To her family only. She was stealing from Brandy, etc., as a come-up.
Kylie said Kim was loyal funfact
@@sugahoney89 yea she stole a lot from brandy. I think they used that money to open their shop DASH.
One of them shared a story that they came home & he was fully dressed as a woman but wasn't aware that they saw him.
How traumatizing …. I mean y’all do realize that means during the filming of KUWTK they knew Bruce wanted to be a female and they knew he had thoughts about transitioning… well Kris knew at least. But those girls aren’t stupid, they had to of knew something wasn’t right. And also every time one of the girls clothes would randomly disappear then pop back up… like the situation with Kris’s dress, I’m sure Bruce was the one taking them, especially when they would see him in dresses… probably was Kris’s dresses the whole time.
I’m watching it RIGHT NOW! You won’t believe the things I’m picking up on.
1. Season 3 Episode 4- Bruce is seen wearing a purple shirt with a rainbow 🌈 flag on the collar.
2. I felt that Kris was taunting him with a colonoscopy appt. As if they knew then. She said” I get to go to Vegas while Bruce has to Get a colonoscopy- He definitely showed signs then.
what's music ?
The song is : space song by beach house
I don't think Kris knew at that time...she may have suspected but I don't think she knew for sure Bruce's intentions
She knew. She admitted that Bruce told her before getting married (while dating) that he had been taking female hormones, and he liked dressing like a woman.
She just figured it would be a hobby and noy his plan to actually become a woman. She willingly shared underwear with him.
It's weird, but hey.. it's Hollywood 🤯
That’s so awful for Bruce to Hurt Kris like that and waste her life
She chose that life. She knew.
@@mojadah10 How do you know that?
And no one came to the idea
to go to the closet and seeing all the stuff he had there by thereselfs?
instead they jus told here she was lying..
poor khloe
What podcast or show is this?
I think when she stated she didn’t think her mom knew , she was implying that she didn’t think her mom knew “ they “ were gaslighting her. So she’s basically trained to make her mom look like the good guy. They were alllll gaslighting her but for a second she almost exposed kris for the disgusting, lying, narcissistic, toxic & evil demon that she truly is 😮💨 Hopefully one day they can break free from the chains of kris and speak their truth 💯
Ps. To all the comments saying she knew who he really was , it was already said that kris knew BEFORE that got married who Bruce or Caitlyn really was 😮💨
I’m screen recording it all too it’s so crazy how these bots will delete & TRY to silence you
That guy robbed over 20 years of Kris' life. Had he just been honest Kris could have been married to a true husband. Instead of that sham of a marriage they had.
Kris was a certified gold digger. She knew honey.
Being young and telling someone something. And they abuse you of lying.That stays with you your whole life.
Gaslighters are the worst.
She looked good here
So if you knew this, what makes you think your mother didn’t
Well you seen and heard Tristan wasn't right. And you still run behind him ????😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮
Ummmm Bruce SAID Kris knew early on and they spoke on it. Thats why he wore socks in the house because he had his toes done. Khloe knows she lying because she first said she told everyone but then said she don't recall if her mom knew. Khloe was such a strong willed child she definitely ran to her mom. 😅
Why would you believe what Bruce says? I don't. Nobody wants to acknowledge the trauma and pain that the wives of these men go through. Everyone wants to be woke and clap for the person going through their "journey" of transition, but nobody spares a thought for the woman behind the scenes who is probably confused and frightened and angry and doing her best to keep her family together.
I LOVE HER LOOK HERE ..FACE AN ALL .. I WISH SHE STILL KEPT HER FACE LIKE THIS. I KNOW SHE HAS AGED FROM HERE BUT THE NEW LOOK REALLY MAKES THEIR FACES MORE SCULPTED MANLY. FROM CHICK INJECTION AN BOTOX AN FACE LIFTS 😢 SHES SO BEAUTIFUL. THE MOST BEAUTIFUL ONE OUTTA ALL OF THEM....ALLLLLL... PERSONALITY BRINGS OUT BEAUTY NOT DITSY GLAM . LIKE HER SISTERS. I ALWAYS KNEW SHE WAS THEEEE MOST GORGEOUS 😍
Can you turn up the background music any louder, Jesus.
Was this a podcast or what I do I find the whole show
Kim said she walked in on Bruce dressed up as a woman when she was in her late teens I think. Bruce thought he was home alone as the family was going on a trip somewhere but then Kim dashed back home to retrieve something. After the encounter, Kim and Bruce apparently never spoke of it to each other or anyone else and just moved on like nothing happened. Say what you want about Kim but she has a different heart.
I believe this, when Bruce and Kim had a sit-down scene after he started transitioning, there was this tension between Kim and Bruce. I couldn't tell what it was, but now that you've stated this, it was because Kim knew, and Bruce knew she had known all along but kept it to herself. Was Kris that desperate for money?
I just don't get it, he has had 4 marriages with WOMAN AND HE HAS LIKE 8 KIDS...
@ashleykuharik3452 they love to hide behind women. They are de-ceivers. Watch old documentaries on this and you will see who and what they are.
Caitlyn and Kris owe jer qn apology for lying to her face and accusing her of lying to hide themselves thats demented im not even suprised from those 2
Guys, don’t state an opinion that’s against theirs. You will be silenced
Why be alarmed? They've changed their bodies completely too.
That's horrible to call your child a liar like that. And they knew she was NOT lying 🙄 😒 Kim said she saw him all decked out as a woman at least once when she was younger. 😖
Not them gaslighting her. This is why Khloe has no filers & don’t care lol
" it was alarming to me..."
I can imagine it happening to all of the sisters that way. The Spidey sense is a real thing. You brush it off after it hits you because of doubt and a little denial. ‘Nah’, you tell your self. And forget about that cap for Kris. She knew. The first wife might have even told her or confirmed what Kris’s own Spidey senses were telling her. Fast forward.
They've Always treated Khloe like crap
Kris knew. Allegedly, she talked him into not taking female hormones after they got together. I read that Bruce thought he was born in the wrong body since he was a child. Way before the Olympics etc.
She looked so good right here!
Man empressive stay glazin the carters🙆🏽♂️😂
😅😅 she looks so different everytime I see her, I think she is a different person 😂😂
The background music is so loud.
Why is the background music so loud
Oh Kris knew
At least she keeps it real no fake voice or BS she's the best one
kim once talked about arriving home unexpectedly and catching sight of Bruce in full women's attire, she left and went over to Kourtney's...
Signs are always there; just need eyes wide open to see ❤
It always annoyed me how kris gaslit kim into feeling bad for kim hanging out with cait
What's the name of the sound?
Why does everyone call her ugly? She’s very pretty in fact
🤔🥺 they announced their separation October 2013 🤔Kris Meet Corey August 2014 She Filed for a Divorce September 22, 2014 (finalized March 23, 2015 )
🤔 Bruce started his transition into Caitlin in April 2015 that's the only thing that he got out of divorce was to become Caitlyn
She looks very beautiful here
Khloe honey boo boo doo doo, PLEASE leave your nose alone!! No more surgeries, you don't have to be your sisters, you're beautiful in your uniqueness
to be okay with confusing your child in this way and having them most likely believe that they are lying or that they didn’t see what they saw is just wrong. it teaches them they cannot trust their own senses, it messes with their psyche.
also they cannot trust you and it’s almost more heartbreaking because they do not know they cannot. *do not gaslight your children* please
Kim said she knew too…. Literally found him dressed in women’s clothing with high heels on 😮😮😮
“I don’t know why it was alarming to me” is one heck of a lie to tell yourself
Yikes what a horrible life to go through. I’m so sorry you had to go through this.😮
There’s always more to the story. We will never know the truth and I will still like this family regardless. No throwing stones when we live on a glass house.
Turn the music up I can almost hear her talk
That’s very nice I love that you said Bruce 💕
O you can ABSOLUTELY BELIEVE that KRIS KNEW!!! She knew even beofre they said I DO
Stop where you are at. You look great, don't risk anymore surgeries. Love how beautiful you are.
I literally hate watching anything that has to do with the Kardashians because I once love them and everything with Diddy coming to the light just shows them in a completely different character
I have compassion for Kris. She might have felt like something was off and found some stuff bt she fought her mind because she loved him and probably also because wives in these sceneries feel like failures and I have never seen Kris fail but that's wat I would feel if I was in her shoes
Ummm, it is well known that Bruce had begun transitioning before meeting Kris and when they started dating she convinced him to stop. She knew what it was but he was her meal ticket & pretended everything was normal.
Same.
@@mojadah10 You don't know any of that is true.
I hate it when parents lie to their kids rather than face the truth.
I don't know why some adults just make their kids look like they are lying when some truths are not their convenience. So sad
This just proves how unhealthy that family is. Telling a child that she's lying and gaslighting her to protect a toxic secret is pointless and damaging.
The fact that it's used in this way i.e. as a talking point in the media, is also telling.
If I saw wigs and dresses in my dads closet I would think he was a serial killer
Kris knew she didn't want the public to know.
The episode when Bruce got his ears pierced I KNEW.
He was very happy because he felt more feminine.
Btw I love how everyone in the comments says Bruce 😂😂
Love Khloes hair
"I was in his closet for SOME reason" 😅 You were snooping.
Oh yeah Kris knew but chose to be in denial ... see how "denial" works out ? What's in the dark always comes to the light is a very true statement ✨️
Kris knew on day one. She also told all of the children soon thereafter.
My opinion, she is the realist out of all of them yeah the mamas the OG but she never say anything to the public about him. She always felt this way. That’s why I fuck with her. She is different.❤😂🤣😭
I love how when any of them do interviews they always out themselves about something that took place