REVIT FOR ELECTRICAL DESIGN: ELECTRICAL CIRCUIT PATHS AND WIRE SIZING

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  • @sivak2861
    @sivak2861 2 года назад

    I'm an BIM engineer from india ,I'm big fan of your explanation, Thank you

    • @bim360
      @bim360  2 года назад

      Hi Siva, love it. Thanks for watching and you are always welcome!!!

  • @thelegacy5368
    @thelegacy5368 2 года назад

    Like always, thank you Rich. Maybe my question is wire size number 12, is it equivalent to 1.5mm2, number 10= equivalent 2.5mm2 etc. How can I can I customize my schedule to show wire sizes in diameters
    2. Separate let say, if I have two condenser units mounted on top of each other against the wall. How can I place my isolator symbol such that when you look at them on on a floor plan they do not block each other and on 3D they appear sitting against the wall on different heights?

    • @bim360
      @bim360  2 года назад

      Hello The Legacy, thanks for watching and you are always welcome.
      1. I googled it:
      #12 = 2.0525mm diameter (3.3088sq. mm. Cross sectional area) here is the link: www.rapidtables.com/calc/wire/awg-to-mm.html
      2. You need to create an Offset (distance parameter) for the isolator symbol. so when you place it in floor plan you can adjust it.

    • @thelegacy5368
      @thelegacy5368 2 года назад

      thanks a lot and thank you for the info.

    • @bim360
      @bim360  2 года назад

      @@thelegacy5368 youre always welcome!

  • @marcio.p167
    @marcio.p167 7 месяцев назад

    Hello from Brazil, my friend. May you tell me how can i consider to the circuit only the closest device to the panel? I mean, i'm working with solar panels and for the leap frog conection, the only module conected directly to the panel is the closest one. Thank you!

    • @bim360
      @bim360  7 месяцев назад

      Olá! In Revit, when designing electrical circuits for solar panels where you want to consider only the closest device to the panel for leapfrog connection, you can follow these steps:
      1. **Create Circuits**: Begin by setting up your electrical circuits in Revit as you normally would, connecting your solar panels to the distribution panel.
      2. **Add Devices**: Place all the devices (such as modules or inverters) that will be part of your circuit.
      3. **Edit Circuit Path**: To ensure only the closest device to the panel is considered in the circuit, you'll need to manually adjust the circuit path.
      4. **Adjust Circuit Wiring**: Modify the wiring path so that it directly connects from the panel to the nearest device, skipping other devices in the circuit. This means you'll need to create custom wiring that reflects the leapfrog connection.
      5. **Use Custom Wiring Tools**: Revit has tools for creating custom circuit paths. You can use the Wire tool to draw the electrical wiring from the panel to the closest device, ignoring the typical sequential wiring path.
      6. **Disconnect Unwanted Paths**: Ensure that the wiring doesn’t continue from the first device to subsequent devices in the circuit. You want to isolate the leapfrog connection to only the closest device.
      7. **Verify the Circuit**: After setting up the circuit with the modified wiring, verify that the circuit is functioning correctly within Revit's electrical design environment. Check for any errors or warnings related to the custom circuit path.
      By customizing the circuit wiring in this way, you can accurately represent the leapfrog connection of solar panel modules in your Revit electrical design. This method allows you to simulate the specific electrical configuration required for your project, reflecting the real-world scenario where only the nearest device is directly connected to the panel.

  • @tobbi3003
    @tobbi3003 6 месяцев назад

    Thanks for this video. What about if you have connection box in the corridor and connect the lights in the rooms from there. How can I get the right circuit length?

    • @bim360
      @bim360  6 месяцев назад +1

      hey tobbi, when dealing with connection boxes in corridors that connect lights in rooms, determining the correct circuit length involves a few steps in Revit:
      1. **Create Circuit Path**: Start by creating a circuit path in Revit. This typically involves drawing lines or paths to represent the electrical wiring from the power source (e.g., electrical panel) to the connection box in the corridor.
      2. **Specify Circuit Length**: Once the circuit path is established, you can specify the length of the circuit. Revit allows you to input the length manually or use the "Measure" tool to measure the distance accurately along the drawn path.
      3. **Connect Lights**: After setting up the circuit path and specifying its length, you can connect the lights in the rooms to the connection box in the corridor. This is typically done by drawing wiring lines from the connection box to each light fixture.
      4. **Check Circuit Length**: Once all the lights are connected, you can check the total circuit length. Revit should automatically calculate the total length of the circuit based on the specified lengths of the circuit path segments.
      5. **Adjust as Needed**: If the circuit length exceeds design limitations or if there are any discrepancies, you can adjust the wiring paths or make changes to ensure that the circuit length is within acceptable limits.

    • @tobbi3003
      @tobbi3003 6 месяцев назад

      @@bim360 Hi. I can only get the length for junction box in the corridor or take the hole length for the corridor and all the lights. I can not use the junction box to split circuit path as I would do in practice

    • @bim360
      @bim360  6 месяцев назад

      In this scenario, where you can only determine the length for the junction box in the corridor or take the total length for the corridor and all the lights, you'll need to approach circuit planning with a workaround.
      Since you can't directly use junction boxes to split the circuit path, you can consider a couple of strategies:
      1. **Average Length Method**: Calculate the average length of the corridor and the lights combined, and use this as the basis for your circuit planning. While this might not be as precise as individual lengths, it provides a balanced approach to distributing the circuit load.
      2. **Divide by Proportion**: If you have an estimate of the proportion of the corridor length to the total length (including lights), you can use this to divide the circuit load accordingly. For example, if the corridor is roughly 40% of the total length, allocate 40% of the circuit load to the corridor junction box and the remaining 60% to the lights.
      Remember, while these methods may not offer the same precision as individual circuit lengths, they provide a practical approach to managing the circuit load in the absence of detailed measurements for each segment.

    • @tobbi3003
      @tobbi3003 6 месяцев назад

      @@bim360 Thanks for this :) There is also possible to make junction box as a panel and then measure from that panel. Panel name (+T1) number for circuit Q101, the junction box (panel) would get the name Q101.1. The only fault for this is that I would get a lot of panels :(

    • @bim360
      @bim360  6 месяцев назад +1

      yes, its a valid point about using junction boxes as panels to measure from. This method could indeed provide a more precise approach to circuit planning by allowing measurements from specific junction boxes (panels). However, as you mentioned, this might result in a proliferation of panels, which could potentially complicate the overall project organization and management. Each approach has its pros and cons, so it's essential to weigh them against project requirements and constraints to determine the most suitable strategy.
      I would advise the following:
      Evaluate Project Requirements: Assess the specific needs of the project in terms of circuit planning and management. Consider factors such as the level of detail required, project complexity, and client expectations.
      Balance Precision and Complexity: While using junction boxes as panels can offer more precise measurements, it's essential to consider the potential increase in complexity due to the proliferation of panels. Evaluate whether the added precision justifies the additional organizational overhead.
      Consider Workflow Efficiency: Think about how the chosen approach will impact workflow efficiency and collaboration among team members. Determine whether the benefits of precise measurements outweigh any potential challenges in project coordination and management.
      Explore Alternatives: Explore alternative solutions that strike a balance between precision and simplicity. This could involve a combination of methods, such as using averages or proportions for circuit planning while occasionally resorting to specific measurements from junction boxes for critical areas.
      Consult with Team: Discuss the proposed approach with the project team to gather input and insights. Collaboratively evaluate the advantages and disadvantages to make an informed decision that aligns with project goals and constraints.
      Ultimately, the advice would depend on the unique circumstances of the project and the preferences of the project team. The goal is to find a practical and efficient solution that meets the project's needs while minimizing unnecessary complexity.

  • @dromasoc
    @dromasoc 7 месяцев назад

    i notice that the system is in english, how to change in metric? that would includes the wire from awg to mm. i'm new in revit and TY very much for this posts.

    • @bim360
      @bim360  7 месяцев назад

      Hello mate, to change the units in Revit to metric and also adjust wire sizes from AWG (American Wire Gauge) to millimeters, you'll need to follow a few steps. Here's a guide to help you with this:
      ### Changing Units to Metric in Revit:
      1. **Open Revit:** Launch Revit and open the project or template you're working on.
      2. **Go to Manage Tab:** In the ribbon at the top of the Revit interface, click on the "Manage" tab.
      3. **Project Units:** Under the "Settings" panel in the Manage tab, click on "Project Units."
      4. **Select Length:** A dialog box will appear. Under "Length," choose the desired units from the drop-down menu. Select "Millimeters" for Metric units.
      5. **Adjust Wire Sizes:** Revit typically uses metric units for wire sizing, so changing the project units to metric will align with this.
      ### Converting Wire Sizes from AWG to Metric (mm):
      If you have wire sizes specified in AWG and need to convert them to metric units (mm), you can use a conversion chart or calculation. Here's a general guide:
      - **Find AWG Size:** Determine the American Wire Gauge (AWG) size of the wire you're using.
      - **Use Conversion Table:** Refer to a conversion table that shows AWG sizes and their equivalent diameters in millimeters. For example:
      - AWG 12 = 2.05 mm
      - AWG 10 = 2.59 mm
      - AWG 8 = 3.26 mm
      - **Manual Conversion:** If you need to convert wire sizes manually from AWG to mm, you can use the following formula:
      \[ d_{\text{mm}} = 0.127 \times 92^{\frac{(36 - \text{AWG})}{39}} \]
      where \( d_{\text{mm}} \) is the diameter in millimeters and AWG is the American Wire Gauge size.
      ### Applying Wire Sizes in Revit:
      - Once you know the wire size in millimeters, you can apply this directly in Revit when creating or specifying electrical components (wires, cables, etc.).
      - Revit's wire sizing options will generally be in metric units once you've set the project units to metric. This means you can specify wire sizes directly in millimeters when working on electrical designs.

  • @liamkneeson8866
    @liamkneeson8866 2 года назад

    Very good videos, thank you!

    • @bim360
      @bim360  2 года назад +1

      thanks Liam!!! You're welcome

  • @SerinMariyam
    @SerinMariyam Год назад

    Can put a video on how to start with an electrical revit project.

    • @bim360
      @bim360  Год назад

      hi, can you please check my video playlist for electrical. thank you.

  • @juliuscastillo2241
    @juliuscastillo2241 Год назад

    sir rich paano kung cross sectional area ang gusto ko na ilagay sa value ng wire size?

    • @bim360
      @bim360  Год назад

      hmm, wala ko idea eh kasi di ko pa yan natatry. =)

  • @antoninbrcak7944
    @antoninbrcak7944 8 месяцев назад

    Hello, is there way, how to manually change a lenght of wire? Tha path and lenght calculated by Revit is not corresponding with reality, it is more like shortest way.

    • @bim360
      @bim360  7 месяцев назад

      hi sir, to manually adjust the length of a wire in Revit and customize its path to better reflect real-world conditions, you can use the following approach:
      ### Modifying Wire Length Manually:
      1. **Select the Wire:** In your Revit project, locate and select the wire element that you want to adjust.
      2. **Enter Wire Edit Mode:**
      - Double-click on the wire to enter its editing mode. This will allow you to modify the wire's properties and path.
      3. **Adjust Path:**
      - While in wire edit mode, you can adjust the path of the wire by clicking and dragging the control points. Revit allows you to reshape the wire's path by manipulating these points.
      - Click on the wire to add new control points if needed, and drag these points to modify the wire's route.
      4. **Modify Length:**
      - After adjusting the path, you can manually modify the length of the wire.
      - Select the wire element and look for its properties in the Properties palette.
      - Depending on the version of Revit you're using, there might be a property called "Length" or "Measured Length" that you can directly edit.
      - Alternatively, you may need to adjust the wire's control points to achieve the desired length based on your modifications to the path.
      5. **Review Changes:**
      - After making adjustments, review the wire's path and length to ensure it now corresponds more accurately with reality.
      ### Tips for Accurate Wire Modeling:
      - **Use Reference Lines:** In complex routing scenarios, consider using reference lines or sketches to plan the wire path before creating the wire element. This can help you visualize and accurately model the desired routing.
      - **Snap and Constraints:** Take advantage of snapping and constraint tools in Revit to ensure precise positioning and alignment of wire segments.
      - **Validate Against Real Measurements:** If possible, compare your modeled wire path and length against actual measurements from the site or project documentation to ensure accuracy.

    • @AntoninBrcak
      @AntoninBrcak 7 месяцев назад

      ​@@bim360 Thank you wery much! Unfortunatelly, I found out, that i cannot write correct lenght, so it is needed to adjust wires control points, and it is time-consuming, but it is a solution.

    • @bim360
      @bim360  7 месяцев назад

      glad to hear that you found a solution. thanks!

  • @hanial-shadadi9122
    @hanial-shadadi9122 10 месяцев назад

    Hi dear, why there is no wires sizes in mm2 in revit. How can i do wire sizing in mm2 ? plz help

    • @bim360
      @bim360  10 месяцев назад +2

      In Autodesk Revit, the default unit for wire sizes is typically in American Wire Gauge (AWG) for imperial projects and square millimeters (mm²) for metric projects. However, the display unit can be customized based on the regional settings of the project.
      If you are working in a metric project and still encountering wire sizes displayed in AWG, you may need to check and adjust your project settings. Here's how you can do it:
      1. **Open the Project Units Dialog:**
      - Go to the "Manage" tab on the ribbon.
      - In the "Settings" panel, click on "Project Units."
      2. **Check Unit Settings:**
      - In the Project Units dialog, make sure you have the correct discipline selected (Electrical for wire sizes).
      - Look for "Wire Sizes" in the list. For Metric projects, it should be set to "Square Millimeters."
      3. **Adjust Display Units:**
      - Click on the "Wire Sizes" category, and ensure that the "Format" is set to "MM^2" (square millimeters).
      4. **OK and Apply:**
      - Click "OK" to apply the changes.
      After adjusting these settings, Revit should display wire sizes in square millimeters. If, for some reason, the issue persists or if you are working with families or specific elements that have their own unit settings, you may need to check and modify the unit settings at the element level.

    • @hanial-shadadi9122
      @hanial-shadadi9122 9 месяцев назад

      @@bim360 thank you for your time and efforts to clarify the solution.. I will try it and will give you feedback.

    • @bim360
      @bim360  9 месяцев назад

      you are welcome.

    • @hanial-shadadi9122
      @hanial-shadadi9122 9 месяцев назад

      I tried doing what u recommend but unfortunately, the wire size in mm2 is not exist in manage-setting-project units. The only thing exist is wire diameter.
      You can check .
      It is very annoying working with AWG while all projects in my country is in mm2..
      Pls help

    • @bim360
      @bim360  9 месяцев назад

      @hanial-shadadi9122, I understand your frustration. If wire size in mm² is not available in the Project Units dialog under Manage > Settings, try checking the specific element settings. Sometimes, individual elements like families may have their own unit settings. Ensure that the wire size category in those elements is set to "Square Millimeters" and the format is set to "MM^2." If the issue persists, you may need to consult Revit's documentation or community forums for more targeted assistance.

  • @premkumar8439
    @premkumar8439 8 месяцев назад

    Hello sir , edit path not visible for me, can you help me.

    • @bim360
      @bim360  8 месяцев назад

      If you're unable to see the "Edit Path" option in Revit for electrical elements like conduit or cable tray, it's likely because the element you're trying to edit doesn't have a valid path associated with it. Here's what you can do to troubleshoot:
      1. **Select the Element**: Make sure you have selected the electrical element (such as conduit or cable tray) that you want to edit the path for. Sometimes, the option to edit the path will only appear when the element is selected.
      2. **Check Element Properties**: Verify that the selected element has been properly placed and connected in the model. Ensure that it has a valid start and end point for the path.
      3. **Review Parameters**: Go to the element's properties and check if there are any parameters related to the path or alignment. Make sure these parameters are properly set.
      4. **Use the Modify Tools**: If you're still unable to see the "Edit Path" option, try using other modify tools to adjust the element's position or alignment. You may need to manually adjust the element to achieve the desired path.
      5. **Verify Settings**: Double-check your Revit settings to ensure that you have the necessary permissions and visibility enabled to edit paths. Sometimes, certain settings or permissions can restrict access to editing functions.
      6. **Update Revit**: If you're using an older version of Revit, consider updating to the latest version. Sometimes, new features and improvements are introduced in updates that may resolve issues with editing paths.
      If you've tried these steps and are still unable to see the "Edit Path" option, you may need to provide more specific details about the element you're trying to edit and the context in which you're working so that further assistance can be provided.

  • @marcio.p167
    @marcio.p167 7 месяцев назад

    Hello from Brazil, my friend. May you tell me how can i consider to the circuit only the closest device to the panel? I mean, i'm working with solar panels and for the leap frog conection, the only module conected directly to the panel is the closest one. Thank you!

    • @bim360
      @bim360  7 месяцев назад

      Olá! In Revit, when designing electrical circuits for solar panels where you want to consider only the closest device to the panel for leapfrog connection, you can follow these steps:
      1. **Create Circuits**: Begin by setting up your electrical circuits in Revit as you normally would, connecting your solar panels to the distribution panel.
      2. **Add Devices**: Place all the devices (such as modules or inverters) that will be part of your circuit.
      3. **Edit Circuit Path**: To ensure only the closest device to the panel is considered in the circuit, you'll need to manually adjust the circuit path.
      4. **Adjust Circuit Wiring**: Modify the wiring path so that it directly connects from the panel to the nearest device, skipping other devices in the circuit. This means you'll need to create custom wiring that reflects the leapfrog connection.
      5. **Use Custom Wiring Tools**: Revit has tools for creating custom circuit paths. You can use the Wire tool to draw the electrical wiring from the panel to the closest device, ignoring the typical sequential wiring path.
      6. **Disconnect Unwanted Paths**: Ensure that the wiring doesn’t continue from the first device to subsequent devices in the circuit. You want to isolate the leapfrog connection to only the closest device.
      7. **Verify the Circuit**: After setting up the circuit with the modified wiring, verify that the circuit is functioning correctly within Revit's electrical design environment. Check for any errors or warnings related to the custom circuit path.
      By customizing the circuit wiring in this way, you can accurately represent the leapfrog connection of solar panel modules in your Revit electrical design. This method allows you to simulate the specific electrical configuration required for your project, reflecting the real-world scenario where only the nearest device is directly connected to the panel.