That's a really great skit 😂😂 dealing with clients is the hardest part. I shot a wedding video sent it to the client to check and tell me what to change they said the love it, just a couple of days ago they hit me up wanting to change something, and this is 1yr later 😂 smh
HAHA, thanks man! Yeah, I can relate. Client reaches out requesting a small change... I explain I will have to the get the whole project loaded back up on to faster editing drives first. So, it will be 2 full days of editing time I will need to charge for between data management to set back up, making the revision, re-exporting, proof checking, re-uploading and we will need to schedule it between current projects. When it comes to old commercial clients though, they usually have no problem paying that once I explain it. If it is a larger revision, it can be nice 3-4 days of easier work to fill a gap. I try to make the best out of it.
Great topic, Ash! This happens to me often while shooting real estate. The seller will have taken an awful cell phone shot of something as it was being remodeled/during a nice sunset/when he first built it etc and will tell the agent to use that photo of said thing so "your photographer won't have to shoot it." Well, I always WILL shoot it, and when my flash-ambient composited version gets back to the seller...yeah, if you have a chance to be there in that moment it's SO fun. 😂 You've just attained God-tier in the eyes of your client.
Owen Wilson: Wow...just wow A nice forgotten rule from 90's blockbusters, was the use of different telephoto lengths to achieve shallow depth of field depending on the aperture needed to get thicker in focus distance for pulling focus while keeping the desired depth of field in the shot. And it became so prominent that sometimes difficult shots like Boeings taking off or landing with ultra super telephoto lenses (2500mm and bigger) required a very technical expertise in optics physics. Great Charisma showing this 🙌
Super fascinating history lesson there! I didn't know! Very much appreciate you sharing that and thanks for letting my know you enjoyed the topic in this video.
@@AshvonChamier anything to support the cinematic community, because is hard! but not impossible. ps: when I learned that rule I told you, before I loved Tony Scott movies, now I can understand the art behind it, and it feels amazing. timeless
I totally agree with the longer lenses and the compression. Something magical does happen above 100mm. I also agree with the large monitors. I will set up a small video village area with an Atomos Neon or Sumo with wireless video. Directors love it too.
That's awesome! The R5 C still surprises me with image quality at every shoot. So cool my videos tipped ya over the edge to invest in one. You have a ton of fun and enjoyment still to come that little beast as you learn to tame it!
Nice man! A nice 85mm really does start getting you in the territory I talk about in this video. The 135mm is a more dramatic hit because it is so foreign to what my clients have experienced but the 85mm has done it for me quite a few times as well. Past doing this "wow" for clients on set, an 85mm is used often on my productions as a whole. On the wide end, I find myself going for the 24mm the most. More than my 35mm. But, I went on a tear with my 35mm for a good year at one point before returning to mostly using 24mm.
Haha, thanks! I made that for video a few years ago that almost no one saw. Then while getting to that point in the edit of this video thought, "hey, that kind of makes sense to use here!". Thanks for letting me know you enjoyed that part of the video. Had fun making that part.
🤜🤛I am totally agree with your video sir.🙇 And that little video that you made of talking to the client really felt like a movie.🥂 It is true that when a client sees big cameras from us, he has big expectations too. So it is true that if there is a body monitor and a big lens then it will be very effective. And I think the lenses you recommended in the video are really effective if done properly.🎖️🎬 I am very grateful to you for making this video through which I got to learn something new.😇🙇
There are plenty of vintage 135mm lenses. Many are very good, for some reason it’s one of those that was easy to make a good lens. Often they were not the main lens used as the main lens, so they are in better shape. If they flare because of older coatings, use a longer lens hood.
Great tips! Yeah, a 135mm prime is too long for a lot of shots and for that reason, I think you are right, they don't get used as often and stay in better shape. Even with me talking about doing this to get an immediate "Wow" on set, I get that and the few shots I can achieve with that lens that come out great, and then film with wider focal lengths than that for the majority of the shoot. So I fall in the same camp of it staying in great shape with less full time use than my 24mm for instance. I think once you make a lens that is around that focal length, the look of that focal length is inherently amazing looking and so different, that cheaper glass still looks great. That 180mm Tamron Macro is a lens I miss very much. Fell and broke on a camera so no loner have it. Bought it used for $500 years ago. I might try to find and buy one again. I like it more than my 100mm Canon EF Macro that I tried to replace it with.
I can garauntee, you can still acheive it! Both my RED, and Sony FS700 are Super35mm (crop sensor) and I got the same "Wow" results from clients left and right. It just makes the lens even longer. The only trick is, you need that much more room to move back. But the look is fantastic on Crop Sensors too. An 85mm would be the equivalent of an 135mm. I've done exactly that to get "Wow's" from clients many times. A good point I should have pointed out in this video. Also keep in mind, in the video I also show my old 180mm Tamron Macro, and a lot of shot at 200mm on the Canon EF 70-200mm. Some of those shots are that focal length on crop sensor cameras. If you used a 135mm, that would be the equivalent of a 200mm - 215mm.
@AshvonChamier oh thank you for your detailed answer. Yeah I'm a newcommer total rookie. I like to make pictures and videos. Noone take more pics and videos than me in my family hahaha. The quality and camera angle is another story hehe. Got an iPhone 16 pro max and s24 ultra too I got a tamron 17-70 mm sony a6700 with tripod I'll try your tips 🤝🤝🤝
I love wides. I use them often. But a looong lens just does something so special, so fast. I have been using my 24-70 RF for interviews lately and finding myself putting at 70mm. So... I agree, stuff looks great at 70mm!
Titling can be an odd thing on RUclips to get it to pop up on search. By all means, throw a title idea out there. Might spur an idea I use in the future.
That's a really great skit 😂😂 dealing with clients is the hardest part. I shot a wedding video sent it to the client to check and tell me what to change they said the love it, just a couple of days ago they hit me up wanting to change something, and this is 1yr later 😂 smh
HAHA, thanks man! Yeah, I can relate. Client reaches out requesting a small change... I explain I will have to the get the whole project loaded back up on to faster editing drives first. So, it will be 2 full days of editing time I will need to charge for between data management to set back up, making the revision, re-exporting, proof checking, re-uploading and we will need to schedule it between current projects. When it comes to old commercial clients though, they usually have no problem paying that once I explain it. If it is a larger revision, it can be nice 3-4 days of easier work to fill a gap. I try to make the best out of it.
Fuck that. The videographer chooses the style and the edit. No changes . The clients pick you for that style.
Great topic, Ash!
This happens to me often while shooting real estate. The seller will have taken an awful cell phone shot of something as it was being remodeled/during a nice sunset/when he first built it etc and will tell the agent to use that photo of said thing so "your photographer won't have to shoot it." Well, I always WILL shoot it, and when my flash-ambient composited version gets back to the seller...yeah, if you have a chance to be there in that moment it's SO fun. 😂 You've just attained God-tier in the eyes of your client.
Haha, that's great. Yeah, people really have to see the difference to know what they are missing.
Owen Wilson: Wow...just wow
A nice forgotten rule from 90's blockbusters, was the use of different telephoto lengths to achieve shallow depth of field depending on the aperture needed to get thicker in focus distance for pulling focus while keeping the desired depth of field in the shot. And it became so prominent that sometimes difficult shots like Boeings taking off or landing with ultra super telephoto lenses (2500mm and bigger) required a very technical expertise in optics physics.
Great Charisma showing this 🙌
Super fascinating history lesson there! I didn't know! Very much appreciate you sharing that and thanks for letting my know you enjoyed the topic in this video.
@@AshvonChamier anything to support the cinematic community, because is hard! but not impossible. ps: when I learned that rule I told you, before I loved Tony Scott movies, now I can understand the art behind it, and it feels amazing. timeless
I totally agree with the longer lenses and the compression. Something magical does happen above 100mm. I also agree with the large monitors. I will set up a small video village area with an Atomos Neon or Sumo with wireless video. Directors love it too.
Awesome! Thanks for sharing here for others to hear your experience is similar with using longer lenses.
Nice! Loving the content!
Super appreciate you letting me know your enjoying the tips I am trying to share here on my channel. Thanks!
agreed. the 70-200 @ 200 for candid shots is great. Surprisingly good on a gimbal as well
Now I haven't attempted rocking it on gimbal... will have to give that a go. Thanks for sharing.
I got the R5C bc your video not too long ago, loving it so far!
That's awesome! The R5 C still surprises me with image quality at every shoot. So cool my videos tipped ya over the edge to invest in one. You have a ton of fun and enjoyment still to come that little beast as you learn to tame it!
Hilarious keep up the good work😂
Thanks man!
35mm and 85mm is my go to.
Nice man! A nice 85mm really does start getting you in the territory I talk about in this video. The 135mm is a more dramatic hit because it is so foreign to what my clients have experienced but the 85mm has done it for me quite a few times as well. Past doing this "wow" for clients on set, an 85mm is used often on my productions as a whole.
On the wide end, I find myself going for the 24mm the most. More than my 35mm. But, I went on a tear with my 35mm for a good year at one point before returning to mostly using 24mm.
Bro... why didn't you put the skit first??? That's so relatable
Haha, thanks! I made that for video a few years ago that almost no one saw. Then while getting to that point in the edit of this video thought, "hey, that kind of makes sense to use here!".
Thanks for letting me know you enjoyed that part of the video. Had fun making that part.
1:19 - So we're all screwed in a few years when smartphones finally gets the 135mm look.
Exactly. lol
🤜🤛I am totally agree with your video sir.🙇
And that little video that you made of talking to the client really felt like a movie.🥂
It is true that when a client sees big cameras from us, he has big expectations too. So it is true that if there is a body monitor and a big lens then it will be very effective.
And I think the lenses you recommended in the video are really effective if done properly.🎖️🎬
I am very grateful to you for making this video through which I got to learn something new.😇🙇
Wonderful. You are most welcome and I really appreciate you sharing to myself and others here, your views on it too. Thanks
There are plenty of vintage 135mm lenses. Many are very good, for some reason it’s one of those that was easy to make a good lens. Often they were not the main lens used as the main lens, so they are in better shape. If they flare because of older coatings, use a longer lens hood.
Great tips! Yeah, a 135mm prime is too long for a lot of shots and for that reason, I think you are right, they don't get used as often and stay in better shape. Even with me talking about doing this to get an immediate "Wow" on set, I get that and the few shots I can achieve with that lens that come out great, and then film with wider focal lengths than that for the majority of the shoot. So I fall in the same camp of it staying in great shape with less full time use than my 24mm for instance. I think once you make a lens that is around that focal length, the look of that focal length is inherently amazing looking and so different, that cheaper glass still looks great. That 180mm Tamron Macro is a lens I miss very much. Fell and broke on a camera so no loner have it. Bought it used for $500 years ago. I might try to find and buy one again. I like it more than my 100mm Canon EF Macro that I tried to replace it with.
I got a sony a6700 crop sens, i think i wont archive that wow footage 😢
I can garauntee, you can still acheive it! Both my RED, and Sony FS700 are Super35mm (crop sensor) and I got the same "Wow" results from clients left and right. It just makes the lens even longer. The only trick is, you need that much more room to move back. But the look is fantastic on Crop Sensors too.
An 85mm would be the equivalent of an 135mm. I've done exactly that to get "Wow's" from clients many times. A good point I should have pointed out in this video.
Also keep in mind, in the video I also show my old 180mm Tamron Macro, and a lot of shot at 200mm on the Canon EF 70-200mm. Some of those shots are that focal length on crop sensor cameras.
If you used a 135mm, that would be the equivalent of a 200mm - 215mm.
@AshvonChamier oh thank you for your detailed answer. Yeah I'm a newcommer total rookie. I like to make pictures and videos. Noone take more pics and videos than me in my family hahaha. The quality and camera angle is another story hehe.
Got an iPhone 16 pro max and s24 ultra too
I got a tamron 17-70 mm sony a6700 with tripod
I'll try your tips 🤝🤝🤝
Noted!!! lol
Cool
Even going from 50 being the highest I went to getting a 28-70. I zoomed to 70 and instantly was like... Wow.
Time to go longer I guess
I love wides. I use them often. But a looong lens just does something so special, so fast. I have been using my 24-70 RF for interviews lately and finding myself putting at 70mm. So... I agree, stuff looks great at 70mm!
Whatever helps.
Yep!
Anyone ever told you that you look like Sebastian Arcelus?
You are the first but I'll take it! LOL.
Your title is weird written
Your Comment is *weirdly written.
Titling can be an odd thing on RUclips to get it to pop up on search. By all means, throw a title idea out there. Might spur an idea I use in the future.
lol