This PC lasted 12 years!

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  • Опубликовано: 13 янв 2025

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  • @GabeHeron
    @GabeHeron 2 дня назад +7

    Rebuild videos are so much better than all new builds, great job.

  • @magnusvideos8430
    @magnusvideos8430 3 дня назад +5

    Enjoyable, practical video that reminds viewers that not all desktop users are gamers obsessed with the "latest & greatest", and that running costs, reliability, ease of use etc are important to loads of people. Btw I am still using Windows 7 on a "Donkey PC" I built that I use once in while for ripping/dubbing/scanning because the legacy software still works on it. Thanks again for the video. =)

  • @TheJamesKF
    @TheJamesKF 21 час назад

    Nice refresh PC for the folks! Its good to see you leave the keyboard struggles in there because those small hiccups get edited out a lot of the time and seeing how you were able to solve the issue is immensely helpful for new builders. I keep an old Dell usb office keyboard around to do fresh windows installs because for whatever reason sometimes my more modern mechanical or backlit keyboards are not recognized. This happens more in older stuff or budget parts with simpler bios options in my experience.

  • @TheOriginalCollectorA1303
    @TheOriginalCollectorA1303 4 дня назад +4

    Awesome build! Crazy to think that the fractal design case is an older one, still looks new because of that simple design! Looks like it’s a great system, I’m sure it’ll last just as long as the old one. The old hardware might make for a cool test system and as for the external drive, you could always swap in a spare hard drive and use it as an extra Time Machine backup for an old Mac or something similar like that. Great video!

    • @ItsMyNaturalColour
      @ItsMyNaturalColour  3 дня назад +2

      Big thanks! The Fractal Design cases really do hold up well. These little Core cases especially look very good just about anywhere. Thanks for watching.

  • @ashleycox432
    @ashleycox432 4 дня назад +5

    Nice build Tom and great choices on the parts. I recently started looking at PC building again after about 12 years as an exclusive Mac user. it's amazing how the landscape of parts has changed. The funny thing is the APU would probably run windows 11 quite well with a patched installer, might be worth trying for fun. The great thing about going AM4 is in a few years there will be a ton of vastly better CPUs on the used market probably for next to nothing with a similar TDP but better performance for future versions of Windows.

    • @ItsMyNaturalColour
      @ItsMyNaturalColour  3 дня назад +2

      Thanks, Ashley! That's a really good point, I didn't even consider the future stepping stone of a faster chip in the AM4 socket. Unlike the APU build, there are excellent upgrade options here if more performance is needed after a few years.

  • @xXlostblaxXx
    @xXlostblaxXx 15 часов назад

    That switch from him now to him 11 years ago is wild . I was about 14 at the time and i feel old lol its crazy how quick a decade passes . Great vid , Subbed

  • @CodyKloepfer
    @CodyKloepfer 4 дня назад +1

    I’ve been loving that you’ve been uploading more! Thanks, Tom!

  • @paulb4uk
    @paulb4uk 2 дня назад +2

    Great choice of components ,gigabyte make some great motherboards ,nice system build..

  • @Pugboy1321
    @Pugboy1321 4 дня назад +1

    The passage of time is wild, I still remember watching the original build way back then!
    And good to see you actively posting more lately!
    I have a good chunk of content to catch up on since my interests shift around in phases but the vids like this are a really awesome throwback as a viewer of 13 years :)

    • @Pugboy1321
      @Pugboy1321 4 дня назад +1

      It's refreshing seeing someone acknowledge the value and longevity of AM4 still.
      I built a new budget gaming PC around black friday and despite some people literally telling me it would be a mistake and that I was "buying into a dead platform" I'm totally happy with my R5 5600X. True enthusiasts are the ones like us who grew up cobbling together upgrades from scrap PCs and tinkering to stretch the most use out of things, most people don't care about upgrading their CPU because a new gen came out a year later and will run stuff until the end.
      "AM4 is dead" is false until AMD stops manufacturing CPUs and chipsets lmao

    • @ItsMyNaturalColour
      @ItsMyNaturalColour  3 дня назад +1

      @@Pugboy1321 Couldn't agree more. I have 2 AM4 systems here, neither particularly high end, and they're just lovely for my needs. Hit the nail on the head with the cobbling together back in the day.
      Huge thanks, enjoy your catchup, got some more good stuff coming too!

  • @paddymaysbs
    @paddymaysbs 3 часа назад

    just came across your channel randomly! you seem as mad as i on old tech just continuing to function !! my 2014 AMD FM2+ Kaveri A10 7870k got demoted from main pc use however is still in use today as a Batocera retro emulation ..it runs most of the console systems up to WII no probs,,hope that will inspire you for new use for an old system :) Have a good day now

  • @johnhudson7055
    @johnhudson7055 День назад +1

    I have a 4600G. Originally got it for a steam machine build. It worked perfectly and did a great job, but I upgraded it pretty quickly since I wanted to play around with a RX6500XT with the steam machine. Since the 4600G is PCIe 3.0 only I threw a 5600 I had laying around to the most I could out of the 6500XT.

  • @blu_subwoofer6714
    @blu_subwoofer6714 3 дня назад +2

    It’s good to see you after 15+ years, Tom!

  • @csh9853
    @csh9853 2 дня назад +2

    things are changing so fast now to future proof much.

  • @BobM925
    @BobM925 2 дня назад +1

    Great stuff! I'm sorting out an upgrade for my father in law - on an extreme budget. He's using a Pentium 4!!! it was my own "RIG" a long time ago, I forgot I'd given it to him.
    Budget is mega tight, going for a second hand Lenovo Thinkcentre Mini, tiny PC, 8th Gen Intel but it'll do for his needs, and importantly it can run Win10/11 go online and be safe.

  • @harrydijkstra9936
    @harrydijkstra9936 День назад +1

    Back then with AM3+, FM2 sockets i used AMDMSRTweaker command-line tool with an automatically starting bat file to reduce powerdraw from the power-states. It's default voltage on the highest turboclock was around 1.425V and most of the times depending on CPU model 1.35V worked fine with lower temperatures+fan speeds.

  • @KieronWray
    @KieronWray 2 дня назад

    happy new yerr tom, great to have you back

  • @do0ranfrump260
    @do0ranfrump260 3 дня назад +1

    My daily driver is 16 years old and runs windows 7 pro. Its been great.

  • @jamiecullen9075
    @jamiecullen9075 4 дня назад +1

    Great video Tom, you’ve done the PC revamp pretty much exactly how I’d have done it. I actually just done a college paper on best bang for the buck office PC
    I think for the old parts, no harm in hanging onto them for the sentimental value. I think it would make a great little retro pc or the likes in a tiny case
    Happy new year to you and your family 🎉

    • @ItsMyNaturalColour
      @ItsMyNaturalColour  3 дня назад +2

      Thanks Jamie, happy new year to you too!
      Good call. I'll hang on to the old parts for now, I'm already enjoying tinkering with them.

  • @magnus33john
    @magnus33john 4 дня назад +1

    Great bang for the buck and still loads of power for the needs

  • @TuneSpinnerNL
    @TuneSpinnerNL 2 дня назад +1

    Beginning the year good, with a new IMNC video.
    A fun retro project for a FM2 board, could be to run WIndows XP and some old games on it. (If you're interested in that sorta stuff)
    As I remember (might be mis-remembering this) those FM2 APU's were some of the last CPU's and motherboards that supported Windows XP, and will practically be all you need to run old games.

  • @laurencejohnson4106
    @laurencejohnson4106 4 дня назад +1

    A neat build!👍👍

  • @stutter352
    @stutter352 2 дня назад +1

    I spy that CRT in the background. Can't wait too find out what's going on there if it ever gets it's own video 😂

  • @ThomasConrad
    @ThomasConrad 3 дня назад +2

    Nice build. AM4 certainly still have some life in it. But running a business on an unlicensed OS that hasn't received security updates in five years seems a bit risky.

  • @VioletDragonsProjects
    @VioletDragonsProjects 2 дня назад +1

    That watch though 👌

  • @willibald.cornfed
    @willibald.cornfed 3 дня назад +2

    It’s my understanding that running memtest from within the OS has the limitation of not being able to access 100% of the memory. Therefore, the standalone version will deliver slightly more accurate results.

    • @ItsMyNaturalColour
      @ItsMyNaturalColour  3 дня назад +2

      That makes a lot of sense. Thanks for that. In that case I'll definitely create a fresh USB for standalone use.

  • @outtheredude
    @outtheredude 23 часа назад

    Watching this on a little Lenovo ThinkCentre i5-4570T system attached to my TV, that's pretty much of the same vintage as your former build. Nice trip down memory lane, while liking what you did with the upgrade too.
    (Your old system might be up for a bit of retro gaming with Windows XP Pro SP3 32-bit, dual booting with Linux Mint. ;-) ).

  • @gameingHyenia
    @gameingHyenia 2 дня назад +1

    Very Nice logical build Thank you .

  • @Suzumi-kun
    @Suzumi-kun 4 дня назад +1

    I used to own a laptop with an A10. The main drawback of that laptop was Windows 10, as it was very sluggish, and this was around 2018. Good thing that you didn't upgrade their system to any newer version.

    • @ItsMyNaturalColour
      @ItsMyNaturalColour  4 дня назад +3

      Deffo. It was lovely on Windows 7 but I think forcing Windows 10 on to that config would've been a step too far, at least in terms of maintaining the snappiness.

  • @johnpaulbacon8320
    @johnpaulbacon8320 День назад

    Great video and nice upgrades. I might of gone with a 1tb nvme m.2 instead of the sata nvme.

  • @waynebagger643
    @waynebagger643 3 дня назад +2

    I've got a HTPC with an A10 APU, running LibreElec/Kodi. Two tuner cards for broadcast TV, plays all my media from my NAS. Still works great. Maybe you could build one with yours?

  • @walterlegere1403
    @walterlegere1403 4 дня назад +1

    It has a lot to do with "price to performance" when selecting new components for a system. There are those on RUclips who harp that AM4 is dead but from where I'm sitting I think that's just nonsense! The only difference in my new "all AMD" system I just built and the one you're building is that I purchased everything (except the case) used! It's got a Ryzen 9 3900X 12 core/24 thread beast of a CPU, a Radeon RX 6600 GPU, 32GB DDR4-3200 RAM, 850 watt PSU, 512GB NVMe primary drive and a 2TB mechanical storage drive, a 120MM AIO CPU cooler and 5-120MM case fans and Windows 11 all for just shy of $600 US. This system will last me for another 5+ years for what I do with it and will be able to completely upgrade it later if I need to.

    • @ItsMyNaturalColour
      @ItsMyNaturalColour  3 дня назад

      Couldn't agree more. That is one heck of a system for the money. Beast of a build!!

  • @reallyryan_
    @reallyryan_ 3 дня назад

    I've had MSI boards all my PC building life never had problems with MSI products.

  • @welshtony1
    @welshtony1 4 дня назад +1

    3rd time lucky with this comment? I typed out a huge one and it got deleted weirdly.
    I will try remember what I said as I was commenting whilst watching.
    AM4 in my opinion is a much better platform that AM5, heard of so many faults and issues with AM5.
    I am a Gigabyte man myself, had a few DOA with MSI and Asus.
    As for the air duster thing, I sent you a link to what I use, I sent in on Discord.
    I do love a old classic case, I am still tempted to do a build in my old Antec 900 case.
    Great video as always, turned out brilliantly :)

    • @ItsMyNaturalColour
      @ItsMyNaturalColour  3 дня назад +2

      Sorry about your first comment, Tony!
      I agree, I love AM4. I haven't had any experience with AM5 myself yet, and I'll be excited to one day, but for now I'm quite happy with AM4. I've also heard a few horror stories.

  • @derekwilson285
    @derekwilson285 4 дня назад +1

    nothing wrong with sky hard drives. 500gb 1tb 2tb in hd box. 1 and 2 tb in Q box. 10 years later still working.

    • @ItsMyNaturalColour
      @ItsMyNaturalColour  3 дня назад +1

      Deffo, solid drives those Seagates. I think the issue was I didn't have much redundancy, and when I installed the drive, I didn't take any care to check the health in great detail before trusting it with crucial data. I'm a little more careful these days.

  • @Hadisabetghadam
    @Hadisabetghadam 3 дня назад +1

    And You Can Turn On Eco To Use 35 Watt

  • @cleanycloth
    @cleanycloth 4 дня назад +1

    FM2 and FM2+ were surprisingly good for their time. I have a Gigabyte board with an A8-6600K in it that my cousin once had and it's still a pretty OK chip today performance wise - boots Windows and Fedora in a flash. I think the APUs solidified AMD as the integrated graphics gaming king because Intel just couldn't compete in that regard. Even to this day I tend to look at AMD over Intel for integrated GPU performance, though nowadays they're probably pretty similar!
    I had an FX-6300 back in the day and it...yeah it wasn't great. It was fine, but it quickly got shat on from a great height by Intel, couple that with the "they're not 6/8 cores because they share some components" ordeal and the horrendous power usage (the FX9590 uses more power than a Ryzen 9 7950X!) and I'm glad FX is behind us.
    With any luck this machine should last another 10-12 years! And being AM4 there's still room to expand with the likes of the 5000 series.
    I picked up an A320M-S2H a couple years back for £20 brand new off amazon, couldn't believe my eyes when I saw the price. Should've bought a few thinking about it! Lovely little board so the A520M version should do you well.

    • @ItsMyNaturalColour
      @ItsMyNaturalColour  3 дня назад +1

      I agree, and I've now been programmed in the same way. I'm much more familiar with the capabilities on the AMD side, and anything integrated graphics related, I only think AMD.
      I'm gutted that I didn't build an FX system back then, I was close to building one a couple of times, just never happened. I know they weren't great but there's just something about the underdog sometimes. The chips to fascinate me, I'll definitely fiddle with the AM3+ platform at some point.
      That's an absolute bargain. I have an A320 board in another build which is lovely and so far this A520 seems bang on too. Thanks for watching!

  • @simonhelleman8714
    @simonhelleman8714 4 дня назад +2

    I remember watching you build that FM2 PC back in the day. I would have been 10 years old at that time. What a throwback to my childhood that clip was.

  • @mikepxg6406
    @mikepxg6406 3 дня назад +1

    Wow you looked very young back then.🤓

  • @oimazzo2537
    @oimazzo2537 17 часов назад

    Man that cx430. Still have one powering an old sandy bridge in a office build, but till one year ago was with the original platform, which was a am3 phenom 2 build and a hd 7750. A very cheapo pc i made when i had little money

  • @TalesOfWar
    @TalesOfWar 4 дня назад +1

    Baby faced Tom. Haha, I remember watching that back in the day. I think we all feel old right now. I had hair back then.

    • @ItsMyNaturalColour
      @ItsMyNaturalColour  3 дня назад +1

      What won in the race, your hair loss or the longevity of the APU build hahaha! Yeah absolutely, time is racing. When I built this I didn't think I'd ever be revisiting it on the channel in 2025.

    • @TalesOfWar
      @TalesOfWar 3 дня назад +1

      @@ItsMyNaturalColour Oh, the APU definitely won over the longevity of the hair haha!

  • @7MBoosted
    @7MBoosted День назад +1

    Curious to know if that fm2 setup has drivers/support for older operating systems like XP or Vista. If so, I wonder if it could be flipped as a retro gaming computer.

  • @Catchgate
    @Catchgate 4 дня назад +1

    I know Im not even half way through the video, you may address it, but you didnt fancy a mini all in one NUC or something similar? I am guessing if your parents are using windows then maybe a Mac Mini M4 might be too much of a learning curve, or just flat out not suitable, just wondering if you had considered something ultra small factor and prebuilt? Love your videos!

    • @ItsMyNaturalColour
      @ItsMyNaturalColour  3 дня назад +2

      Good question! Not something that's ever really crossed my mind actually. The custom build has all the obvious pros I suppose, and would be cheaper for the spec in comparison in most cases I would think. I've always just naturally gravitated to builds.

  • @Mirra2003-f9s
    @Mirra2003-f9s 4 дня назад +1

    that old 120gb Samsung Evo SSD lol i had one back in its time,thing was like 100$ just for that small capacity

  • @ArnorMusic
    @ArnorMusic 4 дня назад +1

    I remember this build! The first time I learned about the AMD APUs was from those videos I recall…

  • @craig71686
    @craig71686 4 дня назад +1

    I don't think that motherboard comes with a TPM 2.0 module. You will need that to upgrade to Windows 11 since Windows 10 is end of life in October of 2025. Looks like the part for that motherboard is GC-TPM2.0_S.

    • @ItsMyNaturalColour
      @ItsMyNaturalColour  3 дня назад +2

      Thank you! It's running 11 just fine now, but handy to know.

    • @craig71686
      @craig71686 3 дня назад +1

      ​@@ItsMyNaturalColour if Windows 11 installed fine then it most likely has TPM 2.0 already built in. No problem.

  • @KieronWray
    @KieronWray 2 дня назад

    doesnt win11 have mandatory updates? the older windows just let you ignore them but i had a worry that win11 wont let you - thoughts?

  • @Zo33566
    @Zo33566 22 часа назад

    so what is the update, a dying platform ?

  • @andyl4683
    @andyl4683 2 дня назад

    is the 5600g, really that expensive still ?

  • @l.i.archer5379
    @l.i.archer5379 23 часа назад

    I would have gone with any other manufacturers other than Gigabyte. I have one of their Aorus ITX motherboards in one of my builds and it is sooooo not user-friendly, or intuitive. I also once had their RTX 3070 Ti cards that overheated and thermal-throttled while playing Halo Infinite. I exchanged it with an ASUS TUF card and temperatures were normal. As soon as my new ASRock ITX board arrives, the Gigabyte board is going away.

  • @TheChadMultiverse
    @TheChadMultiverse 4 дня назад +1

    New watch bruh?

  • @Hadisabetghadam
    @Hadisabetghadam 3 дня назад

    If You Chose The B450 D3SH, You Could Run Windows 7.

  • @Shadepariah
    @Shadepariah 4 дня назад

    Why not the 5600G?

    • @ItsMyNaturalColour
      @ItsMyNaturalColour  3 дня назад +1

      Mainly price. Cost 30-40% more generally, with only at maximum a few % increase in overall performance, nothing that would've been noticeable on such a system with general day to day use I don't think.

  • @mikespikeey4625
    @mikespikeey4625 4 дня назад

    did the boaed have tpm v2?

    • @ItsMyNaturalColour
      @ItsMyNaturalColour  3 дня назад

      I don't think so, I think a module is required as far as I know but I'm not certain.

    • @mikespikeey4625
      @mikespikeey4625 3 дня назад

      @@ItsMyNaturalColour it says you need TPM 2.0 to install Windows 11 i cant install windows 11 on my board and its from 2018 i dont want it on but come oct this year win 10 ends so they forceing me ,but i not buying another mother board

    • @ItsMyNaturalColour
      @ItsMyNaturalColour  3 дня назад

      Have you checked to see if there’s a TPM 2.0 module available for your board? You can just slot it in then, job done.
      Might just work anyway, it doesn’t seem to have been an issue on my systems.

  • @thatclappedk24accord41
    @thatclappedk24accord41 3 дня назад

    Build yourself a NAS using true nas or unraid. not too sure how it'd run on such an old platform, but I cant imagine it'd be the worst thing in the world.

  • @awesomehigames
    @awesomehigames 4 дня назад

    You missed your chance to go from 5600K to 5600G and tell them it's still a 5600. Oh well with the 4600G you can say it's a downgrade

  • @WrestlingFace
    @WrestlingFace 4 дня назад +1

    Wow a video! Good stuff, can't wait til the next one in 2026! :D

  • @celeb.shorts1
    @celeb.shorts1 4 дня назад +1

    linux mint is a good os mutch like mac osx to instal Great Video Tom

  • @samuelxander
    @samuelxander 4 дня назад +1

    He's back!!!

  • @samdavidh
    @samdavidh 4 дня назад

    that new sony camera really makes a difference 😎its interesting how you're a mac guy, and your parents moreso windows

    • @ItsMyNaturalColour
      @ItsMyNaturalColour  4 дня назад +1

      It's a fantastic camera!
      Yes interesting point. Windows seems to have always been right for them.

  • @ps3customgamer
    @ps3customgamer 4 дня назад

    I don't have anything good to say about people buying AMD up until first gen ryzen when they were good for everything but games. Back in 2011 I'd push i5 but would use i3 or even pentium for budget requirements as both would outperform AMD

    • @ItsMyNaturalColour
      @ItsMyNaturalColour  4 дня назад +2

      Couldn't disagree more. Ryzen was a fantastic move, but AMD have had many successes and excellent options long before Ryzen.

    • @Mirra2003-f9s
      @Mirra2003-f9s 4 дня назад +2

      AMD was good until the FX came out and they came back up again with Ryzen. Yes;the i5 was better but the i3 or Pentium would not outperform an FX in gaming,also do keep in mind games back then did not use all cores where AMD would shine. In today's usage the old Pentiums and i3s are pretty much useless while an old FX 4300 6300 or 8350 is still perfectly usable for normal tasks because the cores help