Those mobile volumetric concrete batch plants are a game changer. The first time I used one there wasn't a single wasted drop of concrete. Plus you get the full working life of the mix - extra half hour makes a huge difference in the heat.
many years ago i made a concrete cover for a cesspit. At the time my wife and I were newlyweds, so I wrote her name in pebbles on the cover. Lets say, I was not flavour of the month.😃
We had one of those lorries to lay the base layer for the long load parking bay at work. The concrete was coming out so quick we could not keep up with it. We had to slow him down. I could easy recommend this type of as you need it and on the spot concrete service. Have a great day Tom....
The other thing about site mixing is that you have a longer lead time before the catalyst kicks in. I've had a few trucks that either had a long drive, or got stuck in traffic, that the concrete is so "hot" that there's almost no working time & it get hard too quickly!! Thanx !
Great job and you are spot on when you say brushing concrete is not a good idea, but those mixers will definitely Not save you money a waste of time and effort
In a concrete mixer truck, the concrete should be mixed for a good 10 minutes. It would be good to get it crush tested to see if it comes up to strength. I was a mixer driver for 20 years in Australia.
We are mixing concrete using a barrel mixer,for a 35nt mix For 1 cube 320kg cem 52n orign 1070kg sand.fine and coarse mix 860kg 15mm stone 1L per cube Sika WRA 1L per cube concrete Plasticser 140L water 160L water with no additives
I always had this idea of making a concrete pit ramped down the same width as a loader bucket and as deep then mixing the concrete on mass with the telescopic bucket itself and just pouring it where you want afterwards, never got around to making the pit but it’s still in the back of my mind 😊
Me and the father in law work 2 electric mixers. Cement bags on a pallet, sand and gravel mix from quarry in a trailer. 1 man works the 2 mixers, 1 barrows and if we can get more help, 1 or 2 can do the levelling. Can do a surprising area in day
Great video Tom. Just to let you know CEMI is good for early setting but CEMII will continue to gain even more strength after 28days making it more durable. CEMII also contains significantly less carbon.
Big Ups TL! FURZE lucky to know you! You a certain asset. Love when u appear in his work! I’d venture to say that Mrs Lamb would even win the Hottest Wife contest too 😂 👏🏼
One of the houses I deliver parcels to has one of them fancy printed/coloured concrete drives. Right along the side of the porch and across the garage door is a load of cat footprints! lol
I mix a lot of concrete in a tractor mixer, pan mixer. with a 2m chute so that you reach 4m from the tractor's rear tire. we buy cement in big sacks 300kg/pc. a water tank with a timer-controlled pump, which is started remotely from the loader. on the loader I have a bucket that is big enough to take 2 full buckets for a mixture. I do 6-8m3 per hour 👍
As a groundworker who works with concrete daily, these are a last resort if a plant breaks down or something. For small pours, fair enough they are great BUT for house floors or bigger they are a waste of time. I would doing a foundation a few months back and had 5 jägers unload in the time it took him to mix and empty everything.
I use a tegale dockeys year old tractoer mixer just happy I have that used to have a tub mixer somone else liked the tub mixer more then me helped themselves to it. I now just take my time doing bit as and when. I like doing stuff at my own speed then I know it's done right. I just use 65 shovels of what we call asrised in this area 🤷🏻♂️, as it's cheaper buying that then sand and gravel that's been washed I think the professionals call it ballast I can pick up 8 ton with the tractor and trailer 5 miles up the road and 2 members of my family work at the place so get a bit of a discount. But obusialy can't guarantee the amount of sand to gravel but never seemed to be a problem. Then I add 5 bags of cement not sure if that's to much or not enough but it's the same mix my grandfather used and none of that cracked that's been down since the second world war. Then we nomily do 6-8" depending on the amount of traffic will have over the concrete. with 4mm rebar and I've started adding fibreglass I can't really comment on if that's worth it or not as I don't no. We do a wet mix so the concrete sort of looks after it's self. I borrow my mates petrol tamping thing I have to say that's a very good bit of kit. I am not expert on concreting but I been doing like this since I was a youngster with my father and grandfather all seems ok🤞🤞🤞🤞🤞
That cat 😂😂😂. I am getting a 40x48 foot pad poured for a shop and it will be around 11k us dollars. Concrete is so $. Use to be the poor man's building material not anymore. That truck is the cats whiskers! Super slick!! Haven't seen anything like that around here!
Ooh, a baler! I've spent many, many hours laying under a Hesston. Can you come up with a portable inspection pit for use in the field when you drop a string and have to rethread? Keeping one in the toolbox with the penknife, screwdriver, 10" Bahco adjustable and bit of emery paper would be very useful.
We do smaller jobs like this ourselves (because where we farm is too far from anywhere to easily get concrete delivered), but the BIG jobs we contract out to a mob who bring in a much larger version of that truck (some assembly required on site). Plus there has to be enough room for them to bring all the raw materials out and dump them. And space to drive around to load materials into the mixer. Last big job was the main workshop floor. No way I was mixing 400+ cubic metres 2 cubic metres at a time🥴! Mixer plant and a concrete pump and some hired minions make for a much easier job (and a lot more strain on the wallet 🤯).
I would invest in a bull float Tom it will flatten it much better when the concrete is still wet. They didn’t really tamp it to get all of the pits out first. Scrapping only just leaves it full of holes.
From my experience you can’t mix it for cheaper. Buying ready mix has always been cheaper round here. Especially when you buy the cement by the 25kg bag. And work out the extra labour it takes to mix at home. Unless you have a pan mixer and digger yourself otherwise you will pay the hire on that too.
Looks like the concrete had gone off plenty by the time you came along to pan it ,Just had a price for C45 to do our yard about 150m cube with 360 kg cement per meter at £129.50,Should have done it 5 years ago would have cost a lot less money and we would have had good use of it ,Never seen a farm with to many sheds or to much concrete
Trouble with mix-on-site stuff is that it relies on the skill of the driver/operator to get a reliably good mix. Have used this system twice. First time had great results, second time was shocking (to the point where we refused to pay), so I said never again. ...I'm only 10 mins from Newark concrete though and their readymix prices aren't too bad so long as you need a full load. For anything up to a couple of cube I've got an electric mixer which just about gets the job done.
Very interesting and well filmed. So do you get ~10m3 out of a load? Expect you could refill the lorry during the pour to keep things moving along, but it'll get more work to level etc and you'll need a lot more areas prepared, rolled and formed up. If you were to use fibres where would you add these, please? Whenever I've made concrete it's been by adding cement to '20 to naught' aggregate rather than mixing gravel and sand so you're well ahead of me on all accounts. Never knew about SEM 1 v 2. Thanks for making and sharing. (subbed).
I was told a few years back the volumetric were classed as plant equipment so could be driven on a car licence! No tacho and up to 50 tonne on a rigid or something as well
Sounds suss to me. That is definitely classed as a Heavy Rigid Vehicle here in Australia as it has more than two axles, Light Rigid or Medium Rigid. Mark from Melbourne Australia 🇦🇺
It could have been worse Tom, you could have paid someone to pour a specialist liquid screed in your new kitchen and a cat practically swims through it. Had to wait for it to firm up, knock off the high points and then buy a 25KG bag of specialist screen to fill in a load of paw sized holes 🤦🏻♂️. Can your mix be pumped?
We built our extension 12 years ago used volumetric for the footings. Driver was great looking in the trench yep you need 6.5 cube. He was bang on. Was it Ketton cement by any chance Mr Tom
Hope there were no lupin seed left in the truck tray that carried your sand and gravel , not like my friends concrete floor which now has lupins growing in it !
The guy who did our imprint concrete yard reconed the spot mix type trucks didn't get as good a mix as its only mixing in that short auger. However he did order half a cube too much from the normal wagon ! It's very handy to be able to vary the mix as you go though, when we poured our stable slab it was computer controlled and he just tapped the button when i wanted a slightly wetter mix. What do you think, is it "less well mixed" on these spotmix wagons??
Thanks for digging Colin's Hole!!!
Any time!
Fantastic solution. If only we all had buddies with Volumetric Concrete Mixers...
The Cat hahaha wants its print too Tom lol
More fool you for not locking the cat away after the first lot of footprints.
Between you and Colin's videos, I bet this man will stay busy for a while. Good on you gents for helping him out!
Those mobile volumetric concrete batch plants are a game changer. The first time I used one there wasn't a single wasted drop of concrete. Plus you get the full working life of the mix - extra half hour makes a huge difference in the heat.
Always find cat prints in concrete even if you don’t have a cat 😂😂.
Every RUclipsr needs a mascot, for Tom its a cat. A new star has been born. 🐈 ❤
Your videos are really interesting and filled with experience.
Found you through furze but really enjoy what you do.
ABC Concrete, as seen on the Colin Furze underground garage video!!👍👍
Thats a secret, don't tell everyone 🤣
Question, was this before or after the secret pouring of concrete in the hole?
many years ago i made a concrete cover for a cesspit. At the time my wife and I were newlyweds, so I wrote her name in pebbles on the cover. Lets say, I was not flavour of the month.😃
Every pour we've done has had either the cat or bloody pigeons walk through it! Adds to the character....
Thanks as always for including us Tom!
Nce job from America
Thanks
We had one of those lorries to lay the base layer for the long load parking bay at work. The concrete was coming out so quick we could not keep up with it. We had to slow him down. I could easy recommend this type of as you need it and on the spot concrete service. Have a great day Tom....
Used one of these set ups by a company on the Fylde coast. Superb!! Efficient, no fuss, no mess cost effective!
Wow thats cool AF! What a great way to cut out waste cement.
My cat's called Emily (among other names), and that's the sort of shit she'd pull... Great vid, thanks Tom!
Tnx for diging on colins profect,you are officialy awsome !!
The other thing about site mixing is that you have a longer lead time before the catalyst kicks in. I've had a few trucks that either had a long drive, or got stuck in traffic, that the concrete is so "hot" that there's almost no working time & it get hard too quickly!! Thanx !
Great job and you are spot on when you say brushing concrete is not a good idea, but those mixers will definitely Not save you money a waste of time and effort
It saved me over half
@@Tomlamb980 I think you are not doing your costing right.
In a concrete mixer truck, the concrete should be mixed for a good 10 minutes. It would be good to get it crush tested to see if it comes up to strength. I was a mixer driver for 20 years in Australia.
We are mixing concrete using a barrel mixer,for a 35nt mix
For 1 cube
320kg cem 52n orign
1070kg sand.fine and coarse mix
860kg 15mm stone
1L per cube Sika WRA
1L per cube concrete Plasticser
140L water
160L water with no additives
I always had this idea of making a concrete pit ramped down the same width as a loader bucket and as deep then mixing the concrete on mass with the telescopic bucket itself and just pouring it where you want afterwards, never got around to making the pit but it’s still in the back of my mind 😊
Well done Tom . Very smart . You have a great future x
You just knew the cat had to be in on the act... 😂😂
I never see it until the concrete comes
The cat prints give the concrete a artistic flair!
Me and the father in law work 2 electric mixers. Cement bags on a pallet, sand and gravel mix from quarry in a trailer. 1 man works the 2 mixers, 1 barrows and if we can get more help, 1 or 2 can do the levelling. Can do a surprising area in day
Nice Job 👍
I’m glad it’s not just our cat that does that 🙈😂xx
It’s been a nightmare
thats the best idea ive seen, thought it was ideal at Colin tunnel,
next I guess is a artic and stepframe setup, with a dumper, good luck,
Nice job Tom!
Looks very nice Tom.
Great video Tom.
Just to let you know CEMI is good for early setting but CEMII will continue to gain even more strength after 28days making it more durable.
CEMII also contains significantly less carbon.
Thanks
For a lamb you are very competent. When you become a full blown sheep god help us
Great job Tom. I think you need to lock the cat up every time you are concreting. 😂
Dunno. It seems to make better foor prints in the mud than he does. 😗
I forgot about it
@@stco2426 😂
Those are some good mates
Cat had me cracking up 😂
A cat brings a man down to his knees😂
Big Ups TL! FURZE lucky to know you! You a certain asset. Love when u appear in his work! I’d venture to say that Mrs Lamb would even win the Hottest Wife contest too 😂 👏🏼
Big up
Getting Trolled by the cat. Priceless.
One of the houses I deliver parcels to has one of them fancy printed/coloured concrete drives. Right along the side of the porch and across the garage door is a load of cat footprints! lol
Used this company on my house build very good 👍
I mix a lot of concrete in a tractor mixer, pan mixer. with a 2m chute so that you reach 4m from the tractor's rear tire. we buy cement in big sacks 300kg/pc. a water tank with a timer-controlled pump, which is started remotely from the loader. on the loader I have a bucket that is big enough to take 2 full buckets for a mixture. I do 6-8m3 per hour 👍
Handy to know
Good effort Tom, concreting in volume not easy, especially if you are looking for a power float finish, always fighting time & weather 👍
Clever stuff.
Well done mate!!🍺💪💪👍
Thanks 👍
As a groundworker who works with concrete daily, these are a last resort if a plant breaks down or something. For small pours, fair enough they are great BUT for house floors or bigger they are a waste of time. I would doing a foundation a few months back and had 5 jägers unload in the time it took him to mix and empty everything.
I use a tegale dockeys year old tractoer mixer just happy I have that used to have a tub mixer somone else liked the tub mixer more then me helped themselves to it.
I now just take my time doing bit as and when. I like doing stuff at my own speed then I know it's done right.
I just use 65 shovels of what we call asrised in this area 🤷🏻♂️, as it's cheaper buying that then sand and gravel that's been washed I think the professionals call it ballast I can pick up 8 ton with the tractor and trailer 5 miles up the road and 2 members of my family work at the place so get a bit of a discount. But obusialy can't guarantee the amount of sand to gravel but never seemed to be a problem.
Then I add 5 bags of cement not sure if that's to much or not enough but it's the same mix my grandfather used and none of that cracked that's been down since the second world war.
Then we nomily do 6-8" depending on the amount of traffic will have over the concrete. with 4mm rebar and I've started adding fibreglass I can't really comment on if that's worth it or not as I don't no.
We do a wet mix so the concrete sort of looks after it's self.
I borrow my mates petrol tamping thing I have to say that's a very good bit of kit.
I am not expert on concreting but I been doing like this since I was a youngster with my father and grandfather all seems ok🤞🤞🤞🤞🤞
That cat 😂😂😂. I am getting a 40x48 foot pad poured for a shop and it will be around 11k us dollars. Concrete is so $. Use to be the poor man's building material not anymore. That truck is the cats whiskers! Super slick!! Haven't seen anything like that around here!
Don't blame you tom save money where you can
Tom the cat was just following your lead by leaving her paw prints!
Waiting on the bird prints next 😂😂
good job!
Great contraption. I wish we had those here in the States. I buy quick create here, but I only use small amounts.
Maybe one day!
I thought you might do a Olly and have a feed mixer Tom 🤦♂️👏👏👍👍
Next time!
Nice concrete Tom! Bloody cat!
Ooh, a baler! I've spent many, many hours laying under a Hesston. Can you come up with a portable inspection pit for use in the field when you drop a string and have to rethread? Keeping one in the toolbox with the penknife, screwdriver, 10" Bahco adjustable and bit of emery paper would be very useful.
Re tieing strings is the worst in a field of hard stubble
@b980 its at least 30 or more years since i baled rape straw. still have the gouges out of me back .
We do smaller jobs like this ourselves (because where we farm is too far from anywhere to easily get concrete delivered), but the BIG jobs we contract out to a mob who bring in a much larger version of that truck (some assembly required on site). Plus there has to be enough room for them to bring all the raw materials out and dump them. And space to drive around to load materials into the mixer.
Last big job was the main workshop floor. No way I was mixing 400+ cubic metres 2 cubic metres at a time🥴! Mixer plant and a concrete pump and some hired minions make for a much easier job (and a lot more strain on the wallet 🤯).
I would invest in a bull float Tom it will flatten it much better when the concrete is still wet. They didn’t really tamp it to get all of the pits out first. Scrapping only just leaves it full of holes.
I’ve got one but we were just being lazy
Definitely food for thought. This is the only comment I can make Tom without laughing about the Cat. They ALWAYS want to do it.
I know
I'm about to do a house. This looks to be a good alternative to minimix where you could be left with part loads.
Top job bud 👍🏻
Cracking video Tom
Tom Lamb. He's a Farmer.... and cat strangler. 🙂. Looks Great! Thumbs up to ABC Concrete! (but I'm in The States).
The cat is the star. Made me LOL
Would be very handy to have a volumetric in the fleet could make decent money with the price of concrete at the moment
From my experience you can’t mix it for cheaper. Buying ready mix has always been cheaper round here.
Especially when you buy the cement by the 25kg bag. And work out the extra labour it takes to mix at home.
Unless you have a pan mixer and digger yourself otherwise you will pay the hire on that too.
Looks like the concrete had gone off plenty by the time you came along to pan it ,Just had a price for C45 to do our yard about 150m cube with 360 kg cement per meter at £129.50,Should have done it 5 years ago would have cost a lot less money and we would have had good use of it ,Never seen a farm with to many sheds or to much concrete
Yer it’s coming down in price it was 155
That's a good price.
The shoeprint is a great idea, lol :D
Great video. Laughing so hard at the cat
Trouble with mix-on-site stuff is that it relies on the skill of the driver/operator to get a reliably good mix.
Have used this system twice. First time had great results, second time was shocking (to the point where we refused to pay), so I said never again.
...I'm only 10 mins from Newark concrete though and their readymix prices aren't too bad so long as you need a full load.
For anything up to a couple of cube I've got an electric mixer which just about gets the job done.
That truck is quite the machine, not like hat here in Eastern Canada 🇨🇦 .
What do you use
@@Tomlamb980 Eastern Canada mainly three axle pre mix drum style dispensing trucks. 8-10 +cu. yard loads
For texture try a roller covered in cat paw prints. More cat!
Use both volumetric and barrel mixers depending on the size of the job. Where are you getting the cement from in bulk?
From the ass end of mixer looks like the brain bug from Starship Troopers
Very interesting and well filmed. So do you get ~10m3 out of a load? Expect you could refill the lorry during the pour to keep things moving along, but it'll get more work to level etc and you'll need a lot more areas prepared, rolled and formed up.
If you were to use fibres where would you add these, please?
Whenever I've made concrete it's been by adding cement to '20 to naught' aggregate rather than mixing gravel and sand so you're well ahead of me on all accounts. Never knew about SEM 1 v 2. Thanks for making and sharing.
(subbed).
I’d like to use fibres as usually do but didn’t have any on this occasion
I was told a few years back the volumetric were classed as plant equipment so could be driven on a car licence! No tacho and up to 50 tonne on a rigid or something as well
First I’ve heard of it
Sounds suss to me. That is definitely classed as a Heavy Rigid Vehicle here in Australia as it has more than two axles, Light Rigid or Medium Rigid.
Mark from Melbourne Australia 🇦🇺
That machine sounds like a Willy Wonka factory.. I was expecting everlasting gobstoppers to start rolling out the other end lol
Your right
For a moment you thought about winging the screwdriver, would of made a worst mess. haha
It could have been worse Tom, you could have paid someone to pour a specialist liquid screed in your new kitchen and a cat practically swims through it. Had to wait for it to firm up, knock off the high points and then buy a 25KG bag of specialist screen to fill in a load of paw sized holes 🤦🏻♂️. Can your mix be pumped?
Oh mate
Shame it won’t let me post the photo on here!
Love how the cat paw prints annoyed you but you still had to write your name in it 😂
We built our extension 12 years ago used volumetric for the footings. Driver was great looking in the trench yep you need 6.5 cube. He was bang on.
Was it Ketton cement by any chance Mr Tom
Ha! Lamb The Man!! 👍
Thanks for *filling* Colin's Hole!!! 🙄
He needs to add a bog brush to that piece of kit ;)
Do you know what you're doing? not on a Saturday, proper British reply.
Very interesting Tom, great job, hopefully 👍 👏 🙏
Concrete smells like fish to cats. That's why they are always walking on it.
Hope there were no lupin seed left in the truck tray that carried your sand and gravel , not like my friends concrete floor which now has lupins growing in it !
Cats gotta cat!
The cat stole the show. Hahahah. 😹😹
more cat prints everywhere loads of grip lol
haha that cat knows it's not supposed to be there 😂
The guy who did our imprint concrete yard reconed the spot mix type trucks didn't get as good a mix as its only mixing in that short auger. However he did order half a cube too much from the normal wagon !
It's very handy to be able to vary the mix as you go though, when we poured our stable slab it was computer controlled and he just tapped the button when i wanted a slightly wetter mix.
What do you think, is it "less well mixed" on these spotmix wagons??
I’d say possibly not a well mixed but it still does the same job if they were no good nobody would use them
Gangsta cat!
Nice work getting it done, Tom Lamb! Classic cat assholery as well.
I just made a video about helping a farmer if you'd like to check it out
Next Colin video = he makes a tractor trailer with volumetric mixer (home made) - and mixes all the secret garage concrete himself
We have an old volumetric mixer on an old drag trailer chassis & pto driven off a fastrac.
Buy yourself a bull float to use just after pouring. will make floating a lot easier
LOL, the cat. ♥
👍👍👍.
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