I gotta give it to you sailor. This was the GOLDEN AGE of naval warfare and basic seamanship. The levels of toughness, dedication, and overall monumental effort put into everything was astounding to see, read, and hear about. Thank YOU, good sir, for braving the sea and her waves and making our world safe.
I salute you good sir. My grandfather served on the HMAS Melbourne, Australia's disaster aircraft carrier. He was chosen as one of the personal bodyguards of Queen Elizabeth ii when she came to Australia.
@@bulldawg6259 Thanks. I'm a long time dark skies/seas/docs watcher, so I am well aware of that fact and do see the same footage in some of the other videos, but I like the content and story details. The vintage video footage brings it to life for me, regardless of the incident:footage accuracy disparities. I suppose you could say I'm a fanboy of the content creators format.
The British Royal Navy comes up with some wonderful names for their ships; HMS Implacable being a good example. Thank you for this well researched, illustrated and narrated video.
Probably names carried throughout history from the days of wooden ships similar to what the US has done in some cases. There have been more than one USS Enterprise and some carriers sunk at the beginning of WWII passed their names onto Essex class carriers.
More to do with going through the alphabet tbh. If the first ship in the class is named with a word beginning with the letter 'I', all the other ships will follow suit. Not always a 'gold standard' though! The Invincible class Ark Royal was supposed to be named 'Indomitable' but was named Ark Royal instead. And the Audacious class ship HMS Eagle was originally supposed to be named HMS Audacious alongside the Ark Royal.
@dougaldouglas8842 There are some other countries too..but yes, the US saved some ships but if we look at percentages (how many ships they had in ww2 and how many got saved ) then the number is still pretty low and some of the 'heroes' are missing sadly
The Brits knew how to design, refit, and fight! I'm so proud of them! The HMS Implacable seemed to be a battleship disguised as an aircraft carrier! But...what do I know. I never got to serve. Regardless, that generation impresses me greatly!
That generation was very impressive indeed! But no one should have to worry about today's generation,, we have so many new and improved types!? We have male and female soldiers,, and including new and improved hybrids, such as trans, cisgender, plus many many more, armed with new and improved pronouns!?! So do not worry about our future! Can't you just feel the rainbow?? So there's no confusion, this is sarcasm!😮😂😂😂😂😂😂😊. P. S. If you're not already, it might be a good idea to arm yourself?!😢
During WW2 a P-class destroyer, HMS Porcupine, was split in two amidships and the two halves were towed to Devonport. They were converted into accommodation hulks, the fore section was informally known as HMS Pork and the aft HMS Pine.
Thank you, the video was entertaining, although the title is a bit overdramatic. I was also wondering about the video clips you selected: while excellent, many don’t match the Implacable. For instance, you show a lot of clips of the the Vought Corsair, but that fighter did not fly from the Implacable, as the 14 foot hangers were to short to accommodate even the clipped-wing version used by the Royal Navy. I also noticed that while talking about her anti-aircraft armament, several clips were of the American 5”/38 twin mounts, not the 4.5”/45 actually mounted. Again, I enjoyed the video, I just think that using clips of the correct hardware, even if they were taken aboard different ships, would give the vast majority of viewers a more accurate picture of the Implacable.
The answer is simple. Looking for known actual recordings would be hard as is as during this time the clips were to be represented with would be nigh impossible seeing as it was the era of war. Hence, other nearly related clips would be used, acting as the template.
US schools are at fault. They didn't teach history, they told Our story. I am 42 and was taught the Pacific theater was US 99% with a few Canadian and Australian troops. And that the British were in Europe the entire time. But that the US had an equal force in the Pacific as in Europe. The truth is much different but that's how they taught it
@@francislutz8027Making blanket statements is not prudent. I was taught about all of the Allies and their contributions in both theaters including the British involvement. And I attended school in the U.S.
Idk bout that. They fought tooth and nail not to get overwhelmed by Germany. Then made every inch of lost ground cost a high price in blood all over the Empire. The way modern era views France during the war is downright wrong, though. Made them look like they just gave up at the first sight of a German flag.
Always cracked me up that the ship builders were strictly adhering to the displacement size as by treaty. Like if one is in war who the hell would give a s*** about treaties?
Almost a century later, it seems ridiculous that the RN and ship designers adhered strictly to navel treaty rules but I think it was a matter of pride to come up with credible naval ship designs within those rules.
The ships were designed b4 the war & was well along when ww2 broke so if they'd started after the war started we'd not given a shit & done woteva but at the time the project started on design of the ships one the things we didn't do was predicting the future so did was we'd signed up to with the treaty
They were in an expensive arms race before the treaties. There was even a lot of friction between the US and Britain as the US with its large advantage in manufacturing capacity was likely to pass the British navy. The treaty stayed in place until the Japanese decided they didn't like the fact they had to be in third place forever. Then it was a free-for-all again.
The British Pacific fleet also included the Aircraft carriers Formidable, Illustrious, Victorious, Indomitable and Indefatigable several light and escort carries and Battleships as well as ships from Canada, Australia and New Zealand
@robertx8020 I believe his point was that after Great Britain and her commonwealth allies finished up in the European theatre, they were able to divert a very powerful force to the far east to give the japs a hard time.
The Kriegsmarine were never a threat to the Royal Navy for one very good reason. The Kriegsmarine was too small and the RN was still the biggest navy in the world. What was worrying though was the U-boats, especially when France fell and Germany gained access to Atlantic ports.
@@WilfredIvanhoe And Britain wouldn't have expanded even faster? They had more slipways and drydocks and already had plans on expanding their carriers and had started corvette and escort program before the war started. Germany would never have the navy to challenge the Royal Navy without stealing the French Navy and the Italian Navy was too dysfunctional as a whole.
@@PeteOtton Having more slipways and drydocks won't help if you lack the rest of the resources: money, materials and industrial capacity. Britain already had trouble with producing enough guns for its new King George V class battleships fast enough. Plus it's likely that advocates of appeasement policies would have either opposed, delayed or nullified attempts to build up the military fast enough. While Britain might have still possessed superior numbers in naval power, most of its capital ships would have been badly outdated by 1947.
@@WilfredIvanhoe I think that with the complete take over of Czechoslovakia Chamberlain's government was in trouble and the war hawks were starting to get the ascendancy. The build up of the navy and airforce might have bankrupted the country but they would have been build up and there was no way Germany with it's economy being raided to pay for the public deception works was going to compete with Britain in any longterm cold war build up of arms.
I just watched a video from Warographics, one of Simon Whistler’s channels, about the dire state of the Uk’s armed forces and how it’s dangerously unprepared for any kind of serious military conflict without the assistance of the rest of NATO, especially the United States. As an American, who is also from a military family, I’m used to the notion of a powerful and capable military with a large number of personnel, one and a half million actually, so hearing that the UK only has just over one hundred thousand military personnel… I was shocked! I know they’re a much smaller country, if you don’t count the many territories under the British commonwealth, but that seems like a small number of active duty troops. They also are very lacking in equipment and vehicles. From tanks, aircraft, armored personnel carriers, ships, and even the military housing is astoundingly below standard. They don’t even do their own recruiting anymore. It’s contracted out to a civilian company that doesn’t even have a face to face meeting with potential recruits, only on the phone. The glory days of the British empire and military might are long gone now.
What does that have to do with the video? also Britain has been like that for a long time, they never have lots of soldiers during peacetime but during war it shoots up. also its all about quality over quantity, British technology is much better than US, and the British soldier is much better trained than an American. for example Royal Marines Commandos force US Marine Corps troops to surrender in training exercise a few years ago. Falklands war Britain was outnumbered but won. USA may have the largest military but they've got to be the worst fighting force in the world. their soldiers are so undisciplined. look at Vietnam and Afghanistan both 20 year long wars against farmers with AKs both resulting in a lose. USA clearly over compensates for something and its pathetic. UK is so small and has wayyyy less people than usa and china but still has the 3rd best navy and is ranked number 1 in most professional and trained navy. its just lack of funding and size.
For some reason, I have always found the scrapping of ships from WW1 or WW2 sad. Yeah, you can't keep every destroyer or torpedo boat, but for larger countries, they actually have the space to make most battleships and carriers into things like tourist ships. The number of cool ships I've seen that were intentionally destroyed instead of keeping them for the sake of history is MASSIVE, a lot of which come from the nuclear testing done to see how ships would fare against nuclear weaponry. (while writing this I realized I've NEVER ACTUALLY SEEN the definition of "sake" and I'm slightly concerned lmao)
The Brits got the Corsairs before our troops. Our folks thought they had too many glitches. So, Britain ironed out the problems and then US picked them up again
A few questions ... 1) Can someone tell me which carrier is shown at 5:37? It's not HMS Implacable, seems more like a Essex class (note the side elevator! ) and guntowers in front of the bridgestructure) 2) Why would Germany 'fear' a ship that was only in action when Germany didn't care about it's fleet anymore? If they feared anything it had to be the Russians
@@VIDEOVISTAVIEW2020The British pacific fleet were there too you know included six fleet carriers, four light carriers, two aircraft maintenance carriers and nine escort carriers (with a total of more than 750 aircraft), four battleships, 11 cruisers, 35 destroyers, 14 frigates, 44 smaller warships, 31 submarines, and 54 large vessels.. the royal navy had shit going on literally everywhere in the world
@@bravo2zero796 of course, the Royal navy has been there in the pacific even before ww2. All I am saying is that the US navy destroyed the cream of the Japanese navy's fighting force in the battle of Midway, the Battle of the Philippines, the Battle of Leyte. After all of these battles, the Japanese is finished as a major threat, all that is left is mapping up operations of whatever remains of their fleet and that is where the Royal navy did helped.
Great video ..but I feel the title is a bit oiver the top.. as I don't think (or see no evidence ) that Japan was more 'afraid ' of Implacable than any of the other 100 carriers of the US navy! Sinking Implacable would have changed nothing ..nor would 'not sinking' her .
@@ddoubleg Still the US almost lost non of their ' weak' fleetcarrriers after midway Do you know the best way to protect a carrier? To make sure planes and ships can't even get close .. Btw the British lost some of their carriers too ..does that mean they were 'weak' too?
Do some research , a lot more damage would have been done to us carriers if they had been used instead of the armored deck british ones. One kamikaze could disable a US carrier through its wooden flight deck, why you being so dense.
These days everything should be measured in both Imperial and Metric and announced as such. One measurement should not be favoured over the other. Lefties love Metric!
@@jamesathendune9026 the whole world is metric but the USA and two small countries. Cope with it or change to metric. Who stuffed up the Mars space craft because they used imperial not metric? Metric is the world standard, imperial is history.
@@sirblank2384 Correct! The Japanese feared the USS Enterprise so much that they actually had a bounty on her. She had been reported "sunk" by so many pilots that the Japanese never knew where she was. Then, the idiotic Americans did what the Japanese never could do, destroy her!
I'm not good at science so it always amazes me that these carrier's float. Sure I can see the maths working in benign circumstances but in rough weather? Guess I'm just a bit thick. Such a shame they scrap these iconic ships.
At the end of world war II the Japanese told everybody what ship they were most afraid of and it was the Lexington because they thought they sent it three times they called it the Ghost ship.
@@sirblank2384 yes that is true, but it was Lexington that received the name of the Ghost ship from the Japanese. Who constantly reported her sinking. Yorktown did not receive this name from the Japanese.
@@sirblank2384 you don't know Japanese history do you. The most feared airplane was the Corsair, the ghost ship was the Lexington. And the Americans called the Enterprise the gray ghost not the Japanese. I know my history extremely well. Now you can sit here and try to argue with me but you definitely need to do the research to back up what you say. And when you do you'll discover that I'm right. But you can believe what you want that's the right you have. But I'll stick with my historical degree and knowledge.
Implacable didn’t see the pacific war until July of ‘45 and Japan by that time had little to no fighting ability left and would capitulate 2 months later. Royal Navy presence by that time in the pacific was basically of little real value and they were there for ally credibility. Early in the pacific war, brit ships were of no value against the IJN as they were either outright sunk or heavily damaged and chased away. Brit troops in the pacific were horribly mismanaged by their commanders and hadn’t received the weapons/supplies needed to do much of anything of value.
@@sirblank2384 the USN did NOT use corsairs on carriers until after the RN developed the turning approach method.The USN gave them to marines for ground use until then.. Look it up.
That's a rather ridiculous comment when you consider what the Japanese did at Pearl Harbor on 12/7/41 with nothing but carriers, unless by "axis" you are referring only to Germany. With just a little more luck, Japan could have won that war early with their carriers, but they made too many mistakes and miscalculations. Germany had only one carrier, and it was never completed. Hitler was a fool for not understanding the important role they would play in WWII. When he was building all those battleships before the war began, he should have been building carriers instead.
Hey, I know your not from the UK but you wouldnt actually say 2pdr you would say 2 pounder thats what it means pdr = pounder, it would be like saying the letters I N for inches, you wouldnt say 2 I N you would just say 2 inches.
I remember watching a documentary about the war in the pacific, and an American sailor was saying that the bomb’s bounced off the decks of the British aircraft carrier’s, while they went through the decks of the American carriers!
@@carlharris2808 Yes, I remember he said that, your comment reminded me. The American carriers had more planes though, and more carriers in the Pacific while British carriers were mostly in the Atlantic, Mediterranean, and the North Sea.
Why doesn't Dracinifel, Operations Room, Animachy and the like ever cover Britain's Pacific role? They never mention, or rarely mention Australia accept in a support role. I guess, USA Number 1 Joe?
Scrapped in 1954 after only ten because Britain had no use for her? 14:40 I'm sure that ship cost the British taxpayers a mint. I don't understand how they could've just scrapped the aircraft carrier; 10 years is almost brand new.
If Japan realized that the US wud have 100 Aircraft carriers by fhs end of the war ? They might have reconsidered their future? Maybe we shud try to get along? The US aas trying to stay Neutral until Japan Attacked Pearl Harbor? Oh, it ON NOW! You started this, WE will Finish it!
The Brits were flying them off the carriers first. Our navy nixed tehm so they were sent to GB as partof the lend lease prgm. They solved the landing problems that the US navy couldn't. They figured to come in at an angle to land where the US Pilots flew straight to the landing, Hence the gift to GB. Once the Brits solved the problem, The US Marines yelled , gimme gimme we'll use them and they got them and the Japs regretted it. The Brits also used them in North Africa as fight/bombers and in Sicily also.
Because the Royal Navy had them. In fact I believe they were using them on carriers before the US marines and USN, who originally used them from shore bases.
@sparky4878 the brits used the corsairs in early to mid 1944 the americans used them on carriers right before them in early 1944 but also used them earlier than that on the land bases since 1942
Yeh, I have to go into these videos expecting them to not be 100% watertight on their details/facts, but entertaining and generally in the right ballpark nonetheless. Plus their library of archival footage is quite nice. If nothing else, the stories give me good inspiration for DnD scenarios/plotlines 😂
@@Kellethorn Some creators seem to think that extreme titlels lure more ppl in and while that might be true at first, after being 'fooled' long enough, ppl might never return..so it's a risk IMO
At the war's end, the US had 103 aircraft carriers (23 fleet carriers) and a 1,000-plus-fleet navy. The HMS Implacable was irrelevant in the Pacific War.
@@JamesWestVideo we wanted to follow the founding fathers plans stay out of foreign affairs but no the brits having to beg us and the japanese had to touch our boats
TBH I don't think there was a single ship everyone was afraid of ..even not Enterprise ..is she had been sunk after 43 it would have made no difference1
I guess the Brits don't have a sense of keeping up older ships. Who knows maybe that's why they like to visit the older ships when they visit the states. Who knows.
It was too bad so many of these great ships were scrapped after their use was done. I get it, it was about cutting costs but museums could have been made of a few of them for future generations
You’re getting extremely lazy. Talking about the great British aircraft carrier but you show stock footage of American Corsairs- 1944? , and American carriers firing 5” guns.
@@pashby3 I don’t doubt his talent and watch all his videos. He’s an informative historian. However, lately the stock footage is a huge distraction that demeans the hard work and effort I’m sure he puts into it.
@@truthhurts9241 Is that right? Do me a favor, Tell me one.. Just one time, The Limeys won a battle in WW2? The battle of Britain was defensive, North Africa you couldn't win without Canada doing the fighting for you. And some limited help from the USA. Oh and then you have the battle of Caen that held up the D Day advancement for a month. All the other armies were begging Monty to by pass because of the casualties. and don't forget your little stroll through holland to take some bridges of zero strategic value..
No, by the time America decided to get off it's metaphorical ass the tide had already turned against the Third Reich. In the end, America and the Soviets became best of pals, making secret backroom deals sealing the fates of countries such as Poland...GG-WP!
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Your stories of Naval ships, crew, aircraft, etc tugs at my heart being a retired Navy Sailor. Thanks for your videos.
Thank you for your service! 👍
I gotta give it to you sailor. This was the GOLDEN AGE of naval warfare and basic seamanship. The levels of toughness, dedication, and overall monumental effort put into everything was astounding to see, read, and hear about. Thank YOU, good sir, for braving the sea and her waves and making our world safe.
I salute you good sir. My grandfather served on the HMAS Melbourne, Australia's disaster aircraft carrier. He was chosen as one of the personal bodyguards of Queen Elizabeth ii when she came to Australia.
I have no idea how you find all this vintage footage, but I'm here for it!
Not all the footage is Accurate
@@bulldawg6259 Thanks. I'm a long time dark skies/seas/docs watcher, so I am well aware of that fact and do see the same footage in some of the other videos, but I like the content and story details. The vintage video footage brings it to life for me, regardless of the incident:footage accuracy disparities. I suppose you could say I'm a fanboy of the content creators format.
@@QuakeDragon A lot of it is archive footage from various sources or war film footage and documentary recreations.
The British Royal Navy comes up with some wonderful names for their ships; HMS Implacable being a good example. Thank you for this well researched, illustrated and narrated video.
Probably names carried throughout history from the days of wooden ships similar to what the US has done in some cases. There have been more than one USS Enterprise and some carriers sunk at the beginning of WWII passed their names onto Essex class carriers.
More to do with going through the alphabet tbh.
If the first ship in the class is named with a word beginning with the letter 'I', all the other ships will follow suit.
Not always a 'gold standard' though!
The Invincible class Ark Royal was supposed to be named 'Indomitable' but was named Ark Royal instead.
And the Audacious class ship HMS Eagle was originally supposed to be named HMS Audacious alongside the Ark Royal.
@Mark0003260 the RN had HMS Enterprize, at the same time the USN an Enterprise.
@@davewolfy2906
Correct
But the USN spelt theirs wrong!😂😂😂
There's only one Royal Navy, doesn't need "British" tacked on
Love my British brothers-in-arms. Darlington, SC, USA
So sad how few of Britain's many warships were never saved for posterity.
That is so true
Indeed.
It's very expensive to 'save' ships and in the post-war time other things were more important
At least 'we' have Belfast, Cavalier and Wellington
@dougaldouglas8842 There are some other countries too..but yes, the US saved some ships but if we look at percentages (how many ships they had in ww2 and how many got saved ) then the number is still pretty low and some of the 'heroes' are missing sadly
Cavalier was pushed from Brighton, the Clyde, Newcastle before it was taken in at Chatham. Next move the scrapyard.
The Brits knew how to design, refit, and fight! I'm so proud of them! The HMS Implacable seemed to be a battleship disguised as an aircraft carrier! But...what do I know. I never got to serve. Regardless, that generation impresses me greatly!
That generation was very impressive indeed! But no one should have to worry about today's generation,, we have so many new and improved types!? We have male and female soldiers,, and including new and improved hybrids, such as trans, cisgender, plus many many more, armed with new and improved pronouns!?! So do not worry about our future! Can't you just feel the rainbow?? So there's no confusion, this is sarcasm!😮😂😂😂😂😂😂😊. P. S. If you're not already, it might be a good idea to arm yourself?!😢
If the Brit’s knew so much why did they have rely on the US/Canada to come to their rescue or Hitlers Germany would have kicked their ass!
HMS Implacable, not The HMS ...... This seems to be a common error. The Her Majesty's Ship is nonsensical.
@@DrivermanOHey, how's it going? Thanks for the correction.
And they would have fallen if America didn't help them with the radar
These videos are jewels. Thank you! The quality is great.
During WW2 a P-class destroyer, HMS Porcupine, was split in two amidships and the two halves were towed to Devonport. They were converted into accommodation hulks, the fore section was informally known as HMS Pork and the aft HMS Pine.
Sounds like a great ship. I always admired their steel decks.
Thank you, the video was entertaining, although the title is a bit overdramatic. I was also wondering about the video clips you selected: while excellent, many don’t match the Implacable. For instance, you show a lot of clips of the the Vought Corsair, but that fighter did not fly from the Implacable, as the 14 foot hangers were to short to accommodate even the clipped-wing version used by the Royal Navy. I also noticed that while talking about her anti-aircraft armament, several clips were of the American 5”/38 twin mounts, not the 4.5”/45 actually mounted.
Again, I enjoyed the video, I just think that using clips of the correct hardware, even if they were taken aboard different ships, would give the vast majority of viewers a more accurate picture of the Implacable.
The answer is simple. Looking for known actual recordings would be hard as is as during this time the clips were to be represented with would be nigh impossible seeing as it was the era of war. Hence, other nearly related clips would be used, acting as the template.
Thanks for not forgetting the Royal Navy and Britain. In this modern age you'd think Britain was not a part of WW2.........
And Canada. We have one of the largest shipping # of ships in the world then
US schools are at fault.
They didn't teach history, they told Our story.
I am 42 and was taught the Pacific theater was US 99% with a few Canadian and Australian troops. And that the British were in Europe the entire time. But that the US had an equal force in the Pacific as in Europe.
The truth is much different but that's how they taught it
@@francislutz8027Making blanket statements is not prudent. I was taught about all of the Allies and their contributions in both theaters including the British involvement. And I attended school in the U.S.
@@mathewfullerton8577depends on the school rlly and state ig
Idk bout that. They fought tooth and nail not to get overwhelmed by Germany. Then made every inch of lost ground cost a high price in blood all over the Empire.
The way modern era views France during the war is downright wrong, though. Made them look like they just gave up at the first sight of a German flag.
Always cracked me up that the ship builders were strictly adhering to the displacement size as by treaty. Like if one is in war who the hell would give a s*** about treaties?
The treaty covered the interwar period between WW1 -WW2
Almost a century later, it seems ridiculous that the RN and ship designers adhered strictly to navel treaty rules but I think it was a matter of pride to come up with credible naval ship designs within those rules.
The ships were designed b4 the war & was well along when ww2 broke so if they'd started after the war started we'd not given a shit & done woteva but at the time the project started on design of the ships one the things we didn't do was predicting the future so did was we'd signed up to with the treaty
They were in an expensive arms race before the treaties. There was even a lot of friction between the US and Britain as the US with its large advantage in manufacturing capacity was likely to pass the British navy. The treaty stayed in place until the Japanese decided they didn't like the fact they had to be in third place forever. Then it was a free-for-all again.
In the Pacific , one imperial power fighting another.
Have you considered covering some amphibs? I am partial to the Iwo Jima class (LPH) carriers, but would love to see any amphibs.
gotta love the names of british ships.
Absolutely.
Ikr
The u.s. names some of their ships as taunts like iwo jima class, the midway class, ect
@@sirblank2384 no its not taunts.
@ddoubleg yes its is the biggest ship in the u.s. navy after ww2 just so happened to be the midway i dont thing that was coincidence
Never knew about this carrier at all. And Bravo on the design 🎉
The British Pacific fleet also included the Aircraft carriers Formidable, Illustrious, Victorious, Indomitable and Indefatigable several light and escort carries and Battleships as well as ships from Canada, Australia and New Zealand
Yes, and your point is? ....
@@robertx8020 The point is don't be a dick Robbie
@robertx8020 I believe his point was that after Great Britain and her commonwealth allies finished up in the European theatre, they were able to divert a very powerful force to the far east to give the japs a hard time.
@@robertx8020Suppose the obvious implication is that it was a (HMS) Formidable fleet 😊
@@MrSummerblade 🤣nice pun
But I wonder if it was needed? (that fleet being there I mean )
Always interesting and well written and narrated 👍
The Kriegsmarine were never a threat to the Royal Navy for one very good reason. The Kriegsmarine was too small and the RN was still the biggest navy in the world. What was worrying though was the U-boats, especially when France fell and Germany gained access to Atlantic ports.
Not once the various sub hunters started to show up in numbers. If Hitler had started his war 2 years later, he would have lost his subs even faster.
@@PeteOtton The idea was to not to start the war until 1945 or 1947. By then, according to the plan, Germany would have had a much more powerful navy.
@@WilfredIvanhoe And Britain wouldn't have expanded even faster? They had more slipways and drydocks and already had plans on expanding their carriers and had started corvette and escort program before the war started. Germany would never have the navy to challenge the Royal Navy without stealing the French Navy and the Italian Navy was too dysfunctional as a whole.
@@PeteOtton Having more slipways and drydocks won't help if you lack the rest of the resources: money, materials and industrial capacity. Britain already had trouble with producing enough guns for its new King George V class battleships fast enough.
Plus it's likely that advocates of appeasement policies would have either opposed, delayed or nullified attempts to build up the military fast enough.
While Britain might have still possessed superior numbers in naval power, most of its capital ships would have been badly outdated by 1947.
@@WilfredIvanhoe I think that with the complete take over of Czechoslovakia Chamberlain's government was in trouble and the war hawks were starting to get the ascendancy. The build up of the navy and airforce might have bankrupted the country but they would have been build up and there was no way Germany with it's economy being raided to pay for the public deception works was going to compete with Britain in any longterm cold war build up of arms.
I just watched a video from Warographics, one of Simon Whistler’s channels, about the dire state of the Uk’s armed forces and how it’s dangerously unprepared for any kind of serious military conflict without the assistance of the rest of NATO, especially the United States. As an American, who is also from a military family, I’m used to the notion of a powerful and capable military with a large number of personnel, one and a half million actually, so hearing that the UK only has just over one hundred thousand military personnel… I was shocked! I know they’re a much smaller country, if you don’t count the many territories under the British commonwealth, but that seems like a small number of active duty troops. They also are very lacking in equipment and vehicles. From tanks, aircraft, armored personnel carriers, ships, and even the military housing is astoundingly below standard. They don’t even do their own recruiting anymore. It’s contracted out to a civilian company that doesn’t even have a face to face meeting with potential recruits, only on the phone. The glory days of the British empire and military might are long gone now.
What does that have to do with the video? also Britain has been like that for a long time, they never have lots of soldiers during peacetime but during war it shoots up. also its all about quality over quantity, British technology is much better than US, and the British soldier is much better trained than an American. for example Royal Marines Commandos force US Marine Corps troops to surrender in training exercise a few years ago. Falklands war Britain was outnumbered but won. USA may have the largest military but they've got to be the worst fighting force in the world. their soldiers are so undisciplined. look at Vietnam and Afghanistan both 20 year long wars against farmers with AKs both resulting in a lose. USA clearly over compensates for something and its pathetic. UK is so small and has wayyyy less people than usa and china but still has the 3rd best navy and is ranked number 1 in most professional and trained navy. its just lack of funding and size.
For some reason, I have always found the scrapping of ships from WW1 or WW2 sad. Yeah, you can't keep every destroyer or torpedo boat, but for larger countries, they actually have the space to make most battleships and carriers into things like tourist ships. The number of cool ships I've seen that were intentionally destroyed instead of keeping them for the sake of history is MASSIVE, a lot of which come from the nuclear testing done to see how ships would fare against nuclear weaponry. (while writing this I realized I've NEVER ACTUALLY SEEN the definition of "sake" and I'm slightly concerned lmao)
I'd imagine the crew were grateful for the decision to up her armour level, especially when she went to the Pacific
What is so awesome is that this was on standard fuels. No nukes. A real guzzler.
The Brits got the Corsairs before our troops. Our folks thought they had too many glitches. So, Britain ironed out the problems and then US picked them up again
Same with the Chrysler multibank engine fitted to some Sherman tanks.
Not to mention dropping Merlin engines into Mustangs
Are you peddling that incorrect myth that the UK showed the yanks how to land them on a carrier?
@@mikeholland1031 How do you come to that conclusion?
@mikeholland1031 Thought it had to do with performance problems and general mechanical weirdness. Never heard about any landing problems.
@@g8ymw facts
A few questions ...
1) Can someone tell me which carrier is shown at 5:37? It's not HMS Implacable, seems more like a Essex class (note the side elevator! ) and guntowers in front of the bridgestructure)
2) Why would Germany 'fear' a ship that was only in action when Germany didn't care about it's fleet anymore? If they feared anything it had to be the Russians
And why would Japan fear about this ship when Japans navy and war fighting capability is already taken by the US navy
@@VIDEOVISTAVIEW2020 Right?
It would me like you beating me up to near death and them me 'being afraid' of the person that spit on me 🤣
@@VIDEOVISTAVIEW2020The British pacific fleet were there too you know included six fleet carriers, four light carriers, two aircraft maintenance carriers and nine escort carriers (with a total of more than 750 aircraft), four battleships, 11 cruisers, 35 destroyers, 14 frigates, 44 smaller warships, 31 submarines, and 54 large vessels.. the royal navy had shit going on literally everywhere in the world
@@bravo2zero796 of course, the Royal navy has been there in the pacific even before ww2. All I am saying is that the US navy destroyed the cream of the Japanese navy's fighting force in the battle of Midway, the Battle of the Philippines, the Battle of Leyte. After all of these battles, the Japanese is finished as a major threat, all that is left is mapping up operations of whatever remains of their fleet and that is where the Royal navy did helped.
@@VIDEOVISTAVIEW2020 True
Great video ..but I feel the title is a bit oiver the top.. as I don't think (or see no evidence ) that Japan was more 'afraid ' of Implacable than any of the other 100 carriers of the US navy!
Sinking Implacable would have changed nothing ..nor would 'not sinking' her .
it was the strongest carrier, unlike weak us carriers this one could take many bombs and kamikaze attacks.
@@ddoubleg Still the US almost lost non of their ' weak' fleetcarrriers after midway
Do you know the best way to protect a carrier?
To make sure planes and ships can't even get close ..
Btw the British lost some of their carriers too ..does that mean they were 'weak' too?
Do some research , a lot more damage would have been done to us carriers if they had been used instead of the armored deck british ones. One kamikaze could disable a US carrier through its wooden flight deck, why you being so dense.
HMS Battle Axe had a Helicpter named Hatchet!
You need to use feet and inches as well as meters and kilometers and millimeters in your descriptions. Thank you
You're right Giving haul thickness and deck thickness in millimeters makes it sound like it's made out of tin foil and newspaper!😢😂😊
The whole world works in metric but not the USA and two small countries. The rest of us undetstand @@DavidJones-me7yr
These days everything should be measured in both Imperial and Metric and announced as such. One measurement should not be favoured over the other. Lefties love Metric!
@@jamesathendune9026 the whole world is metric but the USA and two small countries. Cope with it or change to metric. Who stuffed up the Mars space craft because they used imperial not metric? Metric is the world standard, imperial is history.
@@keithshackleton3173that was a cover story. It wasn't a conversion issue.
The USS Johnston doesn't exist, apparently. 🤔🤷🏼♂️
USS ENTERPRISE Was the greatest most killing most feared ship of the War.💪
ok
Yes about the Big E, but this is titled all Axis Powers. Enterprise was Pacific only.
@@MSimmonsAZ How about the Enterprise D?
@@MSimmonsAZ agreed😌
@@Axonteer oh hell yes
I would have said "the Essex Class Carrier", but you make a good case here.
The enterprise is a good threat to that. older but still better and more stars lol
@@sirblank2384 Correct! The Japanese feared the USS Enterprise so much that they actually had a bounty on her. She had been reported "sunk" by so many pilots that the Japanese never knew where she was. Then, the idiotic Americans did what the Japanese never could do, destroy her!
Absolutely nothing suggest the Axis were afraid of this exact ship.
She only lasted 10 years. How sad.
I'm not good at science so it always amazes me that these carrier's float. Sure I can see the maths working in benign circumstances but in rough weather? Guess I'm just a bit thick.
Such a shame they scrap these iconic ships.
All those Corsairs!
Those those planes arecorsairs right
At the end of world war II the Japanese told everybody what ship they were most afraid of and it was the Lexington because they thought they sent it three times they called it the Ghost ship.
Yorktown they said they sunk the Yorktown 3 times once in the coral sea, and twice at midway the Lexington was sunk in the coral sea
@@sirblank2384 yes that is true, but it was Lexington that received the name of the Ghost ship from the Japanese. Who constantly reported her sinking. Yorktown did not receive this name from the Japanese.
@@georgeyarbrough88 enterprise was grey ghost from the japanese
@@sirblank2384 you don't know Japanese history do you. The most feared airplane was the Corsair, the ghost ship was the Lexington. And the Americans called the Enterprise the gray ghost not the Japanese. I know my history extremely well. Now you can sit here and try to argue with me but you definitely need to do the research to back up what you say. And when you do you'll discover that I'm right. But you can believe what you want that's the right you have. But I'll stick with my historical degree and knowledge.
@@georgeyarbrough88 the americans called the iowa the grey ghost lol
Helicopters were available early 1945.Why didn't they reach the carriers?
Implacable didn’t see the pacific war until July of ‘45 and Japan by that time had little to no fighting ability left and would capitulate 2 months later.
Royal Navy presence by that time in the pacific was basically of little real value and they were there for ally credibility.
Early in the pacific war, brit ships were of no value against the IJN as they were either outright sunk or heavily damaged and chased away. Brit troops in the pacific were horribly mismanaged by their commanders and hadn’t received the weapons/supplies needed to do much of anything of value.
Where were British troops in the Pacific? Apart from being overrun in Hong Kong.
@@davewolfy2906 The closest British troops would be in India
@@robertx8020 Burma I think, next door.
@@davewolfy2906 You're right ..but close enough I think
@@davewolfy2906are you serious?
Understood that this is a British vessel but for purposes of comparison and context in future vids please also throw in a few US customary units?
do some math bruh ain't that hard
Why don't you guys join the rest of the world?
I agree only because these ships were not Metric.
HMS Sheffield, that was lost in 1982 was the RNs first metric ship.
Gotta give them there 🌹
What year did the British receive the F4U Corsair? I mean it'd also be more than a match for anything Germany had.
I have never heard the Brits got Corsairs? Was this in the Pacific?
1944 right after the u.s. made it easier to land them on carriers
@@sirblank2384the turning approach for Corsairs was an innovation of the Royal Navy, NOT the USN
@alecblunden8615 the royal navy had nothing to do with corsairs until after the us fixed them to land on carriers so the royal navy did nothing
@@sirblank2384 the USN did NOT use corsairs on carriers until after the RN developed the turning approach method.The USN gave them to marines for ground use until then.. Look it up.
HMS Implacable, featured in many Hollywood war movies
the allies didnt fear aircraft carriers at all. they feared those big ass axis battleships
That's a rather ridiculous comment when you consider what the Japanese did at Pearl Harbor on 12/7/41 with nothing but carriers, unless by "axis" you are referring only to Germany. With just a little more luck, Japan could have won that war early with their carriers, but they made too many mistakes and miscalculations. Germany had only one carrier, and it was never completed. Hitler was a fool for not understanding the important role they would play in WWII. When he was building all those battleships before the war began, he should have been building carriers instead.
Hey, I know your not from the UK but you wouldnt actually say 2pdr you would say 2 pounder thats what it means pdr = pounder, it would be like saying the letters I N for inches, you wouldnt say 2 I N you would just say 2 inches.
The greater strength longer range to hit the enemy. At the loss of defiance at close range
I remember watching a documentary about the war in the pacific, and an American sailor was saying that the bomb’s bounced off the decks of the British aircraft carrier’s, while they went through the decks of the American carriers!
America had wooden flight decks.
Yep. Britain had armored flight decks. We. the us. Did not. Armored flight decks are awesome at the cost of less planes. It's a give and take.
@@carlharris2808
Yes, I remember he said that, your comment reminded me. The American carriers had more planes though, and more carriers in the Pacific while British carriers were mostly in the Atlantic, Mediterranean, and the North Sea.
@@garyharris629 I think that was the reason for the armoured flight decks.
We were too close to multitudes of land based aircraft
@g8ymw I never thought of that, good point!
Why doesn't Dracinifel, Operations Room, Animachy and the like ever cover Britain's Pacific role? They never mention, or rarely mention Australia accept in a support role.
I guess, USA Number 1 Joe?
Your rant belies your screen name.
Maybe because the first battle group the UK sent got folded up like lawn chairs.
@@JohnKoenig-db8lk Have you seen the scene that it comes from? Ranting is the point. Get it out of your system, move forward.
@@tltc191 If they did a piece on it, maybe I'd know that. We'd know that. Sorry, I got a bit selfish there.
@@quietdignityandgrace Sorry, Britain had a role other than "Bloody Shambles?"
She should have been saved as a museum ship😢
Scrapped in 1954 after only ten because Britain had no use for her? 14:40
I'm sure that ship cost the British taxpayers a mint. I don't understand how they could've just scrapped the aircraft carrier; 10 years is almost brand new.
If Japan realized that the US wud have 100 Aircraft carriers by fhs end of the war ? They might have reconsidered their future? Maybe we shud try to get along? The US aas trying to stay Neutral until Japan Attacked Pearl Harbor? Oh, it ON NOW! You started this, WE will Finish it!
They were lucky if the japanese didn't surrender our largest ship at the time was going to be heading their way
Need a giant slide in magazine system that can be custom loaded by a re supply ship
How come I see Corsair’s land on a British carrier
The Brits were flying them off the carriers first. Our navy nixed tehm so they were sent to GB as partof the lend lease prgm. They solved the landing problems that the US navy couldn't. They figured to come in at an angle to land where the US Pilots flew straight to the landing, Hence the gift to GB. Once the Brits solved the problem, The US Marines yelled , gimme gimme we'll use them and they got them and the Japs regretted it. The Brits also used them in North Africa as fight/bombers and in Sicily also.
Because you have eyes.
Because the Royal Navy had them. In fact I believe they were using them on carriers before the US marines and USN, who originally used them from shore bases.
@sparky4878 the brits used the corsairs in early to mid 1944 the americans used them on carriers right before them in early 1944 but also used them earlier than that on the land bases since 1942
@@sirblank2384 no.... cope littel boy cope.
Wow we could really build cool stuff in those days....what the hell happened to us?
Another ridiculous title.
I haver to agree
Yeh, I have to go into these videos expecting them to not be 100% watertight on their details/facts, but entertaining and generally in the right ballpark nonetheless.
Plus their library of archival footage is quite nice.
If nothing else, the stories give me good inspiration for DnD scenarios/plotlines 😂
@@Kellethorn Some creators seem to think that extreme titlels lure more ppl in and while that might be true at first, after being 'fooled' long enough, ppl might never return..so it's a risk IMO
@@robertx8020 yeah I agree on that 100%
If only the Hawker Sea Fury was readily deployable when the British Pacific Fleet was activated….
And during the *entire* Pacific War, US Pacific Fleet was Where?
bro what?
A fine point, but Operation Inmate took place 4 months after 4 US carrier battle groups had pounded Truk to scrap.
Scrapped after only 10 years?? Wtf????
USS FORRESTAL CV-59 82-84
How did the Nazis ever expect to have a navy without an aircraft carrier?
You do realize aircraft carriers didn't become the end all be all until during the war right?
USS Nimitz
Please remember a great deal of your followers don’t know the metric system. So please include standard measurements in your description. Thank you
At the war's end, the US had 103 aircraft carriers (23 fleet carriers) and a 1,000-plus-fleet navy. The HMS Implacable was irrelevant in the Pacific War.
just like usa was irrelevant in the whole war.
My Dad served on her
I love seeing Americans get all upset. A country that was late to both world wars.
And saved the day in both world wars saving the british twice with 2/3 of all vehicles for the allies in ww2 were american
@@sirblank2384 any country that sits back for a few years and spins up their industry is gunna do well. Oh and make a lot of money too. Strange that.
@@JamesWestVideo we wanted to follow the founding fathers plans stay out of foreign affairs but no the brits having to beg us and the japanese had to touch our boats
@@sirblank2384 an American talking about staying out of foreign affairs is beyond laughable.
@@JamesWestVideo after ww2 idk y but the us was made a police force of the planet
The "music" got on my tits so much I logged out.
please. Big E is the real ship everyone was afraid of jeez
Only in the pacific
The Germans were not afraid of it.
You do know that the Germans were in the war?
TBH I don't think there was a single ship everyone was afraid of ..even not Enterprise ..is she had been sunk after 43 it would have made no difference1
@@robertx8020 very true
no, us ships where trash in the Atlantic, British ships where good in both.
The war in Europe was over by July, 1945.
I guess the Brits don't have a sense of keeping up older ships. Who knows maybe that's why they like to visit the older ships when they visit the states. Who knows.
HMS Victory. Launched 7th May 1765. Still in service . Flagship of the First Sea Lord.
us ships are pathetic.
Ummm... Britain taking revenge for Japan colonizing British colonies??
It was too bad so many of these great ships were scrapped after their use was done. I get it, it was about cutting costs but museums could have been made of a few of them for future generations
Tuff ass CVs for sure
I’m sorry… a carrier does not “burst” into launching aircraft “without warning”,… less hyperbole in the narration please
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32 knots is 37 MPH, not 59 MPH. 59 would be insane.
Kilometres per hour not mph.
KMH
Princess Elizebeth! Future Queen!
Romania was doubtless terrified. Your titles are a joke.
You’re getting extremely lazy. Talking about the great British aircraft carrier but you show stock footage of American Corsairs- 1944? , and American carriers firing 5” guns.
Corsairs did serve on British Pacific Fleet carriers. Just not on Implacable.
The US guns - no excuse.
you're candor seems incongruous in regards to this good content creator ..maybe you're factual indulgence could be better worded to convey discord..
Not nearly as bad as the one that showed a nuclear powered cruiser.
@@pashby3
I don’t doubt his talent and watch all his videos. He’s an informative historian. However, lately the stock footage is a huge distraction that demeans the hard work and effort I’m sure he puts into it.
Royal Navy did fly Corsairs, they had them carrier certified before the US marines and USN, who originally flew them from land bases.
Gee thanks England for all the help after 5 years of being a no show
No kidding.
Lent US an aircraft carrier, USS Robin, and was very busy in the Indian Ocean theatre against the Japanese where the US was largely absent.
Time for your milk I think.
Clearly not a student of History.
@@truthhurts9241 Is that right? Do me a favor, Tell me one.. Just one time, The Limeys won a battle in WW2? The battle of Britain was defensive, North Africa you couldn't win without Canada doing the fighting for you. And some limited help from the USA. Oh and then you have the battle of Caen that held up the D Day advancement for a month. All the other armies were begging Monty to by pass because of the casualties. and don't forget your little stroll through holland to take some bridges of zero strategic value..
The british had ruled the seas for 300 years, yet they still needed our help to prevent their total destruction.
But you needed your arse kicked by tiny Japan before woke up to the threat
No, by the time America decided to get off it's metaphorical ass the tide had already turned against the Third Reich.
In the end, America and the Soviets became best of pals, making secret backroom deals sealing the fates of countries such as Poland...GG-WP!
Sure… that’s why they lent the US a carrier during the war is it? Because they needed help and were running out of ships? 🤣
Shame it took you guys so long to get the courage to help.
When you have ruled the seas for 300 years you can laugh. Only up to about 75 years so far.
If you are going to discuss American and British ships, drop that metric crap...
Join the rest of the world
NEVER!!!!!
The Ship All Axis Powers Were so Afraid Of = The USS Enterprise
In the pacific only
no... why tf would Germany care. use your brain kid British ships where in the Atlantic and Pacific.
As usual you don't know what you're talking about.