Justin Herbert or Joe Burrow: who would you rather have? - Wiley & Acho I NFL I SPEAK FOR YOURSELF
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- Опубликовано: 28 сен 2024
- Four quarterbacks were selected in the first round of the 2020 NFL Draft. The Cincinnati Bengals selected Joe Burrow first overall, soon after the Los Angeles Chargers selected Justin Herbert sixth overall. Burrow a former Heisman trophy award winner is headed to the AFC Championship game vs. Kansas City Chiefs. Herbert missed the playoffs however finished top three in touchdown passes and passing yards. Marcellus Wiley and Emmanuel Acho answer who would you rather have: Joe Burrow or Justin Herbert.
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Justin Herbert or Joe Burrow: who would you rather have? - Wiley & Acho I NFL I SPEAK FOR YOURSELF
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Justin Herbert is way better, it’s not even close. Plus he has the most room to grow. No one mentioned that he has had new offensive coordinators both years in the NFL and 3 different ones in college. Also no one mentioned how much smarter he is. He won awards for academics in college and played 3 sports in high school and uses his skills from baseball and basketball in his play. Herbert will break the passing yards record in the next 5 years for sure with this 17 game season format and will win a super bowl within a couple years. Stayley will fix his defense this year with new peronsel through the draft and through free agency with our large cap space we will have this off season. Burrow is right up there and fits perfect with his team. So both great but Herbert is the best quarterback I’ve seen since Peyton Manning and could potentially be even better. Just watch the tape and u will see. Love the show guys. Keep it 100. Both Herbert and burrow will be future HOF if they keep their success and stay healthy.
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Here's a fun fact... the raiders beat the chargers and kept them out the playoffs. And the Bengals beat na swept the raiders and sent them home... same with the titans. So please herb isn't in the conversation with joe. He good but he ain't joe.
@@prestoncurry4136 didn't Herbert beat Joe this year?
it’s very obvious when someone hasn’t paid enough attention to herbert and the chargers, all the blame for losses falls on him when he could not have played more masterfully. their defense was pitiful but nobody remembers that.. when the chargers defense becomes good or even reliable, the league will be shaking
underrated comment
Exactly scary hours pending
Everyone that seen the film be picking up on the BS right away. I honestly dot think it's close. Herbert is the kinda special we've never seen before.
yep. hopefully the defense will be top 10 this year. See what he can do with a good defense. And, chargers lead the leaue in dropped passes. And, how many TD's were called back because of penalties? And, Parham dropping that TD against the chiefs because he hit his head on the grpund and suffered a concussion. If he dont drop that pass, chargers probanly beat the chiefs.
Because he's not that good. His only ability his chuck it deep. He can't read a defense as good as Burrow that's why he hasn't made a playoffs yet
I think fifteen years from now, we will still be having this conversation. These two are on the trajectory to be all-time greats. Bengals/Chargers/Chiefs/Bills are going to control the AFC for years in my opinion.
Ravens? Titans? Colts? What are they going to be doing? Baltimore can clearly compete minus the injuries they were 8 and 3 before the injuries became too much. Tennessee can clearly compete with all of those teams and did over the course of the season, a couple of better coaching decisions and they're in the title game, not Cincinnati (and I'm a Bengals fan). The Colts are a QB away, and it doesnt even have to be a great QB, just middle of the pack.
Burrow won't last 15 years with that O-line and that many sacks per game.
@@tyrannosaurus696 you do understand that this team is a rebuild right? You clowns act like they're just not going to do more O line work, dont be stupid. The world still mad that Cincinnati didnt draft the one offensive lineman they tried to bully them into drafting.....this was an entirely different team 4 years ago...coaching staff rebuilt this team in 3 years stop hatin
They have and they have won in Arrowhead literally. They are a few moves away from building a juggernaut.
@@King_Verb_ I DONT SEE THE RAVENS GOING THAT FAR IN THIS CONFRENCE WITH LAMAR JACKSON TO ME HE IS NOT THE GREATEST AT THE QB ROLE HE IS A GREAT RUNNER BUT IF HE IS FORCED TO ONLY THROW THE BALL HE ISNT ABLE TO GET THE JOB DONE. BUT IF THE RUN GAME AND THE PASSING GAME IS WORKING THEY CANT BE STOPPED.
Justin Herbert, his game against the Raiders (although they lost) was the most stellar quarterback performance I've seen in years.
No cap.
Guess who beat the Raiders twice this season?
@@andrewstacy3937 guess who doesn't care?
You didn't watch bills vs chiefs on Sunday
@@andrewstacy3937 guess who dog walled the bengals this year?
I like Herbert but you guys act like Joe Burrow didn't pick up where he left off at LSU..dude has a cannon and has had one since high school and he has a never die attitude with the skill to shy away from nobody.
"a cannon." There's levels to throwing power. He has Brady type throwing power, which is satisfactory. But, his throws gets to its target with precision. But is it Josh Allen, Matt Stafford or even Bret Favre type throw velocity.. even ARod or Mahomes, no. Mahomes and Herbert have better velocity by about a level or two above Burrow. Burrow has an above average throw power.
You mean when he was throwing to, two receivers this year that are top 5 in the NFL, justin jefferson and jamaar chase, along with NFL RB Clyde edwards Helaire? (CEH)?
Justin herbert is better .
@@geeosama8016 There is more to a QB than raw numbers.
Right and Herbert has way more than raw numbers. His receivers also led the NFL with 33 dropped passes. Even if you don't account for Herbert's bottom of the NFL defense if you give him 5 less dropped passes they chargers are in the playoffs this year.
Herbert is better. He had the 3rd worst defense in the league this year while the Bengals were around the middle. The only reason the Chargers went 9-8 was because of Herbert.
Burrow threw for 0 TDs and 1 pick against the Titans, and his team was able to pick up the slack to help win the game. If Herbert does that, the Chargers get blown out. He has to play perfectly week in and week out bc his defense and special teams are so unreliable. With over 80 million in cap space and 11 draft picks next year, the Chargers will bolster their defense, win more games, and should be in the playoffs.
Again, it’s a team sport and the Bengals have a better team overall. Offensively they’re pretty evenly matched, but the Bengals special teams and defense is better without question and they still only won one more game than the Chargers.
Burrow is a beast but Justin Herbert is still the better quarterback IMO.
Preach. Telesco better let Staley get that defense right if he wants to dethrone the chiefs
Herbert is not winning that game getting sacked 9 times.
@@brandonasiamah8205 Herbert doesn’t get sacked 9 times that game bc he has a quicker release, has the arm talent to make crazy throws on the run/under pressure, and is better at moving around the pocket to avoid sacks. Herbert had the 31st ranked o line last year and didn’t get sacked nearly as much as Burrow. He was a top ranked QB under pressure by PFF last year and this year for a reason.
@@isaacibarra4974 Can’t compare mobility with these two yet Burrow is still recovering from his knee so he’s not as shifty as he can be yet. If he still has high sack numbers next year then you have a point.
@@brandonasiamah8205 herbert wouldn't get sacked that many times. But if he did and our defense good Tennessee to 16 points I bet we win by more than 3 points at the last second
As a Chargers fan I'd say it's difficult to knock either QB. Herbert had more trouble against cover 2 defenses than Burrow did last season, and Burrow is a bit more efficient and less prone to throw hero balls that get picked, but Herbert definitely has more raw talent that jumps off the screen. I'd be thrilled with either. It'll be fun to hopefully watch a great Bengals/Chargers rivalry develop over the next 15 years. The 2021 game was insane for sure. Herbert came away looking better but Burrow was throwing with a pretty grisly finger injury on his throwing hand and still almost managed a huge comeback.
respect
So we now have our next gen. Mahomes. Allen. Burrow. Herbert. Liking it. Also, all great faces for football.
Wiley is disqualified from talking about qb’s because he still thinks Herbert is better than Mahomes. I know he’s a homer but that’s asinine.
He’s not better but it’s close Herbert ain’t no player to over look
@@finessewrld23 it’s not close at all. Kyler had his best players injured and both RBS injured in. A much harder schedule and toughest division in football and he still made the playoffs and was 1 win off home field advantage. Why does Herbert get all these excuses the chargers offence is loaded
@@finessewrld23 He’s not close not even in the same tier as Mahomes. Herbert is all stats and flash without the most important part of being a top qb which is winning and nobody does winning better in the league than Mahomes besides Brady
Wow. Wiley pretty much just told the world "I say extreme, stupid things...cause Imma win this debate!!" Not that he had to tell anyone, it’s painfully obvious. That’s the problem with these debate shows, you can always tell the difference between those making genuine arguments, and the clowns who are just doing theater.
If Justin Herbert had even the 15th rank defense in the NFL the chargers win 12 games. Since Herbert has been in the league no team has allowed opponents to score more than 30 then the chargers
If he’s as good as everyone keeps saying he’d win in spite of
@@kjb200814 mahomes defence for that 2018 season was just as bad and mahomes got
MVP and the 1 seed Herbert gets to many excuses if he was as good as people think they guarantee a playoff spot kyler had a tougher schedule and got injured and still made the playoffs with no JJ and D hop.
@@undefeatedpacifist8389 chargers have a first year head coach and overhauled coaching staff and offensive and defensive scheme . Yes the chiefs had a bottom tier defense in 2018 but they had Andy Reid to steer that ship who is more vital to that programs success than any player . Even when you have a bad defense they can still shine when needed when they have been in a scheme that they are comfortable with and the offense can operate at a high level with a scheme that has been established for years . Herbert doesn’t deserve excuses but there are factors that I see that may have kept him out of the playoffs . Now next year if he doesn’t make it to the dance then there is no excuse with his talent and weapons .
@@kjb200814 lol horribly dumb take
@@KyleMacSkill Mahomes defense in 2018 was literally rated the worst in the league and he made the afc championship game. The eagles this year with a first year hc and 1st year starter at qb made the playoffs. Why is Herbert getting so many excuses I just don’t get it. He also lost to the Texans to get into the playoffs. But my take is horrible 🤔
Justin herbert beat Andrew luck's in touchdowns twice back to back. Justin herbert beat Dan Marino rookie season too. Justin herbert got rookie of the year and he getting pro bowl. Justin herbert 31 touchdowns his rookie season no other quarterback has ever had that many touchdowns ever. Our defends isn't as good the bagels..
HERBERT > burrow.. hands down, NO DEBATE
LOL
Lmfao here after the Super Bowl. Herbert would've converted 4th and 1 lmfao
Meanwhile Justin Herbert will be sitting at home watching the superbowl that Joe Burrow is playing in...and it's funny how he mentioned that Burrow isn't a dragon slayer but has beat the chiefs twice within a month...I love the analysts and how every week they have to eat their words hahahaha WHODEY!!!! 🐅
Not to mention he actually beat the Raiders, the Titans, Steelers twice, and Ravens with a full team. He also took Rodgers and Jimmy G to OT, right?
Wileys take on Joe hasn't aged well... lol
The 1 knee ring 💍 quote was a dime 😆
Both good! Herbert is more exciting to watch!!!!!
Love these guys! Great chemistry and such fun
Joe burrow is great, but as a chargers fan all I can do is bleed Justin Herbert’s case, arrived at Oregon as a 4 stringer becomes first string as true freshmen and has a 4-8 record. Learns 3 different offensive schemes with 3 new head coaches by his senior year. Could have went into the draft early but instead he Leads the ducks to 10-2 record and caps it off with a rose bowl victory. Almost every sports pundit in the country is labeling Herbert as a potential bust, instead he gets offensive rookie of year. Then a unbelievable year 2 with a special never say die 4th quarter performance against the raiders. Perseverance is the morale of the story. Herbert’s had his back against the wall his entire journey so far, and this is only the beginning. Never been more excited in life⚡️⚡️⚡️
Acho is off. The truth is Herbert isn't in the playoffs for one plain simple reason...the defense failed him this whole season. They fix that (which I believe they will), they're in the future playoffs. Enough said
Justin Herbert seems a combination of Deshaun Watson/Aaron Rodgers. Joe Burrow seems a combination of Ben Roethlisberger/Tom Brady. I'll take Burrow unless he invokes more Roethlisberger than Brady, as he won't last NEARLY as long. In that case, I'll take Herbert because Herbert could still transcend to another level. He's so young, he has time (unlike Aaron Rodgers).
Wiley is grasping for any and everything he can grab knowing Burrow is better right now Herbert is a beast don’t get me wrong but his play hasn’t equated to winning
Does Herbert play defense?
@@TheTravelGuy-00 are you saying the Bengals have an elite defense?
@@kingjames361 much better than the Chargers especially run defense. The Bengals were ranked 17th in total defense where the Chargers were 30th. You’re not winning anything with that defense.
@@TheTravelGuy-00 still not elite all I’m saying is Joe changed life in the Bengals organization Herbert has played great but nothing to show for it if you value winning Burrow has to be better
@@TheTravelGuy-00 if you want to bring in d then why not mention the fact herbert has a better oline than burrow. If burrow had a coach whose pass first along with an oline that can block Id bet burrow would thrive in that situation. However I dont thing herbert could thrive in the situation burrow is in so for that reason id go burrow over herbert
Joe has the better team, Justin is the better QB
Exactly!
You can have Dan Marino, I'll take Joe Montana
Joe burrow literally slayed that dragon twice…
Marcelous lost this. His argument is Herbert and Allen can slay the dragon(Mahomes) by a coin flip. Burrow at the time already beat Mahomes.
Neither one of them beat Mahomes. Joe just did it twice in one month. In 2 of the Bengals 4 biggest games.
Yea Wiley hold the L on this one. One QB got a coach fired and still hasn’t reached the playoff yet in the same time frame. Some might also say had the better receiving core as well
Oh and he has a better offensive line. THAT'S WHY Burrow got hurt! You lost this one Wiley.
Herbert doesn't play defense. The chargers defense is like bottom 3.
@@nujurzsavage3843 Bengals defense isn't good either so thats a bad argument
Herbert didn’t get his coach fired lol. He was literally fired so he wouldn’t waste Herbert, so if u wanna look at it like that, then sure Herbert “got his coach fired”
Nobody saying the Chargers receivers better than the Bengals
We are not going to act like bengals is a better team than the chargers. Everyone had the chargers going to the playoff the beginning of the season while everyone prolly thought the bengals wouldn’t be above 500. Chargers rosters is all around more talented than the bengals and look who is going to the AFCC
Bruh bengals kicker won them so much games
Easy, Burrow.
How about you put them on the same team and then compare them.
If Acho is seriously gonna blame Herbert for costing games (who had the lowest turnover-worthy play rate along all QBs), and then put the Raiders lost on Herbert for "not getting it done," the man simply needs psychiatric help.
Talk that talk Acho
Tell me this would we be where we are rn if we had Herbert? I don't think so..
Through Herbert’s career 56% of the games he has play his D let 27 or more points to get scored. That leads the league second place is Mahomes at 37% if joe burrow played for the chargers they would have been 5-12 this year
Big facts
This comment is stupid. If Herbert played behind burrow oline he would have 4 wins
@@bigb9332 uhm Herbert had the worst offensive line his rookie year and what happened? He was the best qb under pressure and had the best rookie season by any qb..
@@bigb9332 if Herbert had the 12 best defense like burrow he’d win 11 games easily but no he has the 29th ranked defense.. look at burrow both playoff wins ended with the defense making plays .. enough said do your research buddy
@@pm21-v3h if Joe had Herbert’s o line he would be playoff in the afc championship game with a chance at the Super Bowl….. ohhh Joe has the worst o line in football and still doing that
The bottom line, JHerbert needs playoff wins and a super bowl appearance with all of his great stats and strong arm. Take nothing away from either of the two. Both of them will need a defense to help them so, they won't have to win games(as much) with their arms. Today, it is JoeB 1st...JustinH 2nd. Statistically, just switch the two. As far as disappointing seasons, JHerbert fell short of the playoffs. And JoeB has a super bowl loss. We know this. It's JoeB with the edge_
Bengals could've traded the pick to the dolphins and got Herbert and waddle to pair with chase ...don't get me wrong burrow is a beast but he was the number 1 pick ..I'd have been happy with burrow as a charger fan but I'm glad we got Herbert
Anyone else think this can be looked at like Marino/Elway? Both came into the league the same year. Marino (Herbert) was better statistically by careers end, but Elway (Burrow) knew how to flat out win especially the big games?
The Bengals won their first playoff game in 30+ years. Because of Burrow. Even with a weak O Line. Being sacked 9 times.
Bengals win that game if it’s the chiefs or the bills they facing and not the titans?
@@Tmalik21g titans were the #1 seed. Without Henry. What are you talking about. Lol.
@@Vargumedo24 Yeah….Just like the Bills were the number one defense. That stuff looks great on paper.
Right up until Tannahill throws that first pick lol.
@@Tmalik21g yea. That’s just how sports go. You either ready or your not. And Burrow and Mahomes were ready. They stepped up and won.
That’s what Brady those all the time. He finds a way to win. Even if he is playin like trash. Lol.
Burrow didn’t win the games against the raiders and titans. The bengals def. Are not getting credit for showing up it’s ridiculous
Marcellus Wiley tales are all 💯 based on emotion and not actually analysis
joe burrow has way better mental abilities, better leader, better in clutch situations, mentally stronger. and he’s more accurate. justin came into the league with a better situation then burrow, if you switch their teams i can say joe burrow would’ve made the conference championship his first year and justin would have around 6-7 wins
Burrow are u guys crazy
Burrow. Even though Herbert is more talented/skilled as a QB. Burrow has more dog in him. And he’ll smoke a cigar afterwards.
Which player has their team on the cusp of a Super Bowl appearance in year 2 of his career? I rest my case.
I’m confused, did these guys forget burrow played in the super bowl? They keep saying made it to an afc championship game
Both are awesome in their own rite.
Can Burrow make strong accurate deep passes like Herbert? Does Burrow stay calm under pressure? Can Burrow rack multiple clutch 4th down plays?
Does Herbert smoke cigars? Does Herbert show his emotions on the fieldWho won the last game when these two played? Isn’t Herbert not in the playoffs b/c their defense let him down?
Burrow has had the most deep passes on the league this season. Also has been the most accurate yet most aggressive QB. Calm under pressure?? Dude got sacked 9 times and still threw for 300+ yards with 75% completion rate.
@@MrByambaa602 are you sure deep passes not just chase doing yard after catch
@@brandonarias5593 yes. I don't remember name of the stats but it's like airs traveled or something.
@@brandonarias5593 Also Bengals are 4th in yac and Chargers are 6th in yac this season. Difference of 130 yards. So not so different.
You can't have this conversation about team success without bringing up who had the better defense...
Burrow won playoff games without throwing a TD. Give Herbert that kind of defense or those weapons and then judge the two. Bengals were a better team simple as that.
All you fans that say or think that Joe Burrow is BETTER than Justin Herbert....Please..... Put that joint out!! Stop the Smoking....geez!!😂 Wait till they lose to the Chiefs...lets see how you respond than!! He better have his good game!!!😳😳😂😅😂😂😂 Because if he screws up and throws 3 interceptions and fumbles the ball...and only scores 10 pts for his team...lets see how much you'll LOVE burrow!!
Joey franchise baby.
What y’all think now
Herbert all day everyday
Except when you need to win to make it to playoffs
Chargers couldn't beat the raiders to make the playoffs and the very next week bengals lead by Joe burrow beat them to advance to the divisional round.. lol. Herbert>Burrow tho cause he has better numbers in more games? LOL
Herbert's numbers are better per game as well. Don't forget that. Herbert Carries the chargers without a super explosive top 3 wr.
6:40 ahahaha
ok Who was ROTY? Who's in the 2022 pro bowl? Who won in a game vs each other?
Herbert
Look herbert was already ranked #3 qb in the regular season only below rodgers and brady and burrow was #4 with that being said both these guys are amazing! With the brightest of future! Acho gettin a lil disrespectful wit herberts name tho he gotta chill
You guys already decided since last year that Herbert was the man. Now, because of pride and not knowing what your talking about you will stick with Herbert. Burrow will be the better choice now and long term. Keep this message :)
Too bad qb isn't all about athletic ability. Look at Brady. It's about leadership and winning. Herbert never won a big time game, Burrow always finds away.
Herbert has a defense comparable to the lions and jets defense.
Didn’t the defense intercept Carr to win that game vs raiders…. Didn’t they intercept tanehill to give burrow a chance ? Herberts defense is trash
Marcellus Wiley is such a clown bro. This dude refuses to give any credit to the Bengals or Burrow.
Numbers don’t tell the whole story with Burrow though.
Wiley always goes off feelings but to be honest, I would take Herbert over Burrow. Burrow might be the next Manning or Brady with his pocket presence but Herbert makes throws that nobody else can make. Maybe not even Rodgers, Mahomes or Allen. Burrow also has better weapons and most likely the better coach.
Acho can’t get his facts straight regarding the Chargers
Joe Burrows! Not close
Joe Burrow quick read quick release more accurate real smart QB number one , Patrick Mahone two, San Diego QB 5th , Rams QB 3, San Francisco QB 6th Buffalo Bills QB 4th Dallas Cowboys QB 7th. Oakland Raiders QB 8th. ( Buccaneers QB 1 st. & Green Bay QB 2nd ) retirement for Brady , and Roger’s )
Joe is far the better player yeah Justin had better talent but I need a qb that can uplift we’ve have yet to see that from Justin in my eyes borrow got it
I mean is not Herberts job to play defense.. they let up 30plus Daum near every game can’t ask a qb to win a shoot out every week.. we’ll see what staley does with an off season
How stupid do you feel now that Joe burrow is going to a championship. Is beat your greatest quarterback in Patrick mahomes. Or should I say Patrick beat himself. I mean I gave you all the props in the world for keeping this clip up after this horrible take
Wiley side u comparing him to Justin Herbert 😂
Justin es mejor y el tiempo me dara la razon saben x ke durabilidad joe tiende a lasimarse demaciiado y la linea ofenciva NO es mejor ke la de chargers
We still having this conversation?
Wiley is such a hater lol... ability u say, burrow has better foot work in the pocket, more accurate, better pocket awareness, and consistently threw the ball down the field better... not to mention ill take burrows football iq and leadership..... congrats on that strong arm herbie
Herbert is incredibly accurate lol such a critical take. Herbert also has way better mobility in the pocket and is better throwing on the run. He simply makes throws that Burrow can't. Burrow does have great accuracy but his WR are better that Herbert's. I would take Chase Higgins and Boyd all day over Allen, Williams and Guyton. Ill take Uzamah over cook for that matter too. Way more separation for the Bengals Wr.
Tom Brady>Burrow cause toms career numbers are better. Not going to mention how many more games he played than him cause that's not important the important thing is that Brady has better career stats. Great take keep it up 🥱
Hopefully this video gets played at Burrow HOF speech .. haters like this is what fuels Burrow .. u dont think he watches this stuff ?
Last year it was Baker Mayfield, this year it's Joe Burrow, who will it be next year?
Takes time to get this guy off the air! He’s too wrong too many times!
Wiley @ 10:40: “THERE WE GO STAY WITH IT, STAY WITH THESE 2!!!”
Also Wiley: (proceeds to bring up Kaepernick, Mahommes, Alex Smith, and Jimmy G throughout his argument) 🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️
Just sitting here admiring how cool it is that we can have this conversation with two young QB's. Gotta love the present and future of football!
Lol one is in super bowl
@@kurtkremer5631 no one even asked
I dont see none of these qbs winning more than two sb's because it's too much talent at that position now
I look at it this way: would either team trade their guy for the other? I’m sure that 95% of fans for each team would prefer their current QB, which shows you how well they fit on their teams. I love Herbert, but I absolutely respect how good Burrow has been. I just wish this comparison wasn’t so prominent, because I want to watch them both succeed without having to secretly hope for Burrow to stumble a little so that my guy can look better.
That's a great way of looking at it. Cheers.
If Herbert gets a reliable defense, look out! If Burrow gets a good offensive line, both of these guys will give Mahomes and Josh Allen a run for their money.
@@michaelbell5 All true... quarterback is the most "dependent" position in sports.
@@michaelbell5 totally true! Allen and Mahomes are in great positions. Fortunately Herbert and Burrow have a chance to improve their positions in free agency and the draft this year. I think both teams have a ton of cap space.
Burrow and Herbert is like Brady and Manning …
Burrow & Brady less natural talent , Big hearts , they want it !
Herbert & Manning , Absolute talent
J Herbo
Facts
Tell me you’ve never watched Burrow play without telling me you’ve never watched Burrow play
He looks like he panics under pressure 😂
Burrow will play for a grand total of 5 years because he’ll be in a wheel chair with that god awful o line
Bad o line and yet still playing in the playoffs how did Herbert perform in the playoffs oh wait
👁👄👁
@@WIZ-BK-LA LMAO so you never watched him just say that
@@Thebucs14625 That was my sarcastic response to the challenge! No one in their right mind would say that Burrows can’t handle pressure🤔 My other comment would be that he looks like he is too soft and would collapse if he felt some real pain!😂
Justin Herbert by far
By far??? 🧢
Herbert's defense fails him Burrows doesn't Herbert in 2 season's has broken all qb records has to do more period.
Burrows o line was like last in the league and he dragged them to a super bowl. I mean both r absolutely fantastic tho
Why can’t we just admit Burrow and Herbert are both great and will do great things for their franchises for the next decade. And that Miami is the one who ef’d up taking Tua
Why do u consider herbert great
@@0624tre look at the analytics. You do understand that he’s very young and just do some research.
2yd Tua 🤣
@@0624tre Herbert is a great talent there is no denying that. Rodgers is a great talent, Manning was a great talent there is no if and or buts the numbers speak for themselves. Herbert didnt have a good enough team to get into the playoffs Herbert played good enough he wasnt the reason they missed the post season. Burrow is better right now and has a better squad. Burrow is a little better not by much there are differences in both teams as to why one is in the playoffs and the other isnt. Tua the jury is still out on him. We'll see.
@@SouthernBrick I seen Peyton Manning not have good teams and still make the playoffs. Same with Aaron Rodgers
Can't deny that burrow stepped up this yr. Yes he beat the raiders but performance wise it Wasnt as good as Herbert.
Why not? He won. Did not throw a costly interception either. Never got into desperation 4th downs really.
@@ethanweeter2732 Herbert manages to convert those 4th downs despite this team leading the league in drops (including TDs and 3rd/4th down conversions) and folks never realize this guy hasn't had consistency in Oregon or from the Chargers. First time Herbert will have the same HC from the season prior since like HS but he still balls out regardless. He's gonna get 40-50 TDs next season cuz he's not even playing his best football rn yet
@@raijin8718 Well, in Herbert's junior and senior year at Oregon he had Mario Cristobal as a his head coach and Marcus Arroyo as his offensive coordinator. But yeah I get what your saying in his second year with the same coaching staff at Oregon he led them to a 12-4 record and they won the Rose Bowl and he was the offensive MVP.
Herbert was always in 4th down againstthe Raiders. Burrow is very accurate and better at reading defenses. Herbert has a better arm yes and more athletic. Burrow plays the game how it is. He spoke on that after losing to the Jets. That guy is ahead of Herbert in QB IQ. He is Tom Brady or Montana like
I love both of these quarterbacks, but let's not dismiss Joe's college accolades or the fact that he's taking the Bengals to the Superbowl in year two. It's clear he's got the champion aura because if you can take a dumpster fire team like Cincinatti to the Superbowl, then you're straight up special. As great as Herbert is now and is great as I think he can become, the guy doesn't seem to have that same aura. To me it's kind of like comparing Joe Montana and Dan Marino. Or Tom Brady and Peyton Manning. The latter in both cases looks better and seems more "talented" but the former has unexplainable intangibles.
a top 10 defense with a top 4 run defense and top 5 sack leader with the #3 rusher and two top 10 WRs is your idea of a dumpster fire?...Y'all really gotta stop man. Bengals nearly had 3 1000 yards receivers...y'all act like Burrow carried the team. He didnt have to. Ask he had to do was not take so many sacks.
@@Chrism7178 Bengals were not a top 10 defense wtf you talking about lmao Yes they were good against the run cuz they were 6th worst against the pass. They were like hovering at 20th all year across the board. They didnt reach top 15 at all..even with a top 5 run defense. They played their tails off on the last couple games and playoffs which made them look way better than they were. The WRs ill give you but you have to also account for 71 sacks from the worst Oline in the league.
They were 10th-12th all year...nice try though
top 5 vs run..had a top 5 sack leader....do your research.
Burrow got carried and lucky. Wont make playoffs this year
Idgaf what anyone says give me Justin
Reminds me of Brady vs Rodgers. Herbo has more talent but Burrows intangibles are off the chart. They both, especially Herbo, need new coaches
@Pierre Lesperance leadership, confidence, the way his teammates respond to him and elevate their game. Herbo leads by example, which is fine, but unless you're constantly doing something spectacular it doesn't raise the morale of the team. Confidence is such a huge part of sports. I've seen juggernauts get steamrolled because they allowed the other team to believe they had a chance. A great leader makes sure all his teammates know that he has supreme confidence in them so in the biggest moments he can go to anybody and they will have the confidence to step up. Compare that to Rodgers who kept forcing it to Adams because that's the teammate he trusted the most even though others were wide open. Not saying Herbo can't develop into a better leader but the Chargers don't play with the same level of confidence as the Bengals and it doesn't help that their coach is a degen gambler
Naw Brady n Rodgers make the playoffs every year. How many times Herbert been to the playoffs?
Chargers had 12wins 2 years before he came. So they have declined with Herbert
@@0624tre that's fair. I'm just giving Herbo leeway because he started at a younger age. Rodgers sat for like 3 years and played on a better team with a better coach. But honestly he wasn't a great coach either 😂
Umm did you forget about Patrick Mahomes. How did he get left out??? Them 2 boys ain't even won nothing
@@ninobrown3394 nah Mahomes is washed bro.. lol jk we're talking about 2nd and 3rd year players. Mahomes is already in his prime. I chose Rodgers bc Mahomes is a vocal leader who hypes his teammates so the comparison didn't make sense
A battle of two different philosophies on QBs… talent with lesser intangibles vs lesser talent with great intangibles.
Joe Burrow is in the AFC championship and Justin Herbert is at home. Good talk.
That may be the laziest take I’ve seen.
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@@K94507 exactly it's tv talk, and I'm a Chiefs fan.
Acho you said Herbert wasn’t gonna be good, you were wrong now you are saying he compromised Anthony Lynn’s job? Reaching big time dogg
This show got rid of Whitlock and now Wiley is taking the mantle for stupid takes.
Welp.....Burrow is in the superbowl while JH watchin him play. So uhhhhhh.....
The lack of QB talent in the upcoming draft shows just how lucky the league has been over the past few seasons. Love watching both these QBs, although if I had to choose it would be Herbert all day. Herbert is clutch - shows absolutely no nerves on 4th down and the game on the line.
Have you watched the playoffs?
@@howtodrown yeah Herbert did everything he could within his power. His defense failed him.
Acho giving too much credit for wins forgetting the defense.
Herbert had 5 game winning drives this year, 3 last year as a rookie and i can think of at least 2 other games in his career where he threw a game winning pass or got them into field goal range to win the game and got let down be his team (last year Raiders, Saints) look it up and he throws the perfect pass just as much as Burrow. Herbert has no control over dropped passes or missed field games. People who say Herbert is all talent and not enough intangibles does not actual watch him in these pressure moments.
Well we will watch him this weekend, oh wait.
according to pro football reference he's at 8 game winning drives
How many times he done it in the playoffs? Herbert threw a bad pick which end up costing his team in the end. That’s why he didn’t play in the playoffs. Burrow is the better qb
@@bigb9332 HAHA WHAT? What pick? And Burrow had just as many picks buddy
@@bigb9332 I’m confused what was the bad pick he threw
So cold to criticize Burrow's reconstructed knee!
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Acho has never gave Herbert Love since the Beginning so nothing New 😒
Why should he? Has he made the playoffs yet?
@@0624tre pretty hard when you have a bottom 5 defense/special teams
@@JWillGames u saying it like the Bengals have a great defense or special teams
It's kinda hard those games he loss throwing pick 6s. Was that the defense fault
@@0624tre his defense gave up 41 to the Texans, 42 to the browns, 35 to the raiders, 34 to the ravens, worst 3rd down defense bottom 3 run defense which affects Time of possession. Meanwhile bengals just held the titans and raiders both under 20 points
Maybe if herbert cut his hippie hair, get a haircut you can respect
We need Wiley back forreal. This show isn't the same anymore.
Wiley has elevated himself to goat status with this take Joe burrow walks up " come on" while Justin Herbert ninja star "pew pew pew"
Literally makes no sense