I guess Adam's hot takes could be called "Wylde opinions" And if Jesse has a segment on young players it could be called "The blakeout star". Maybe that would be suitable for a short video format (shorts, tiktok, instagram) before the draft just talking about the highest prospects and their strengths etc.
Pettersson had a killer instinct when he came into the league. Every shot seemed like he was trying to break the net, but he seems to have lost that mindset.
not only has he lost that mindset, but his coach refuses to play the way that best suits him, hes a rush player, he thrives off the rush and having good wingers who can hold the puck, his linemates and the way tochett has the team playing does neither, noglander and karlsson have a combined 10 points ( his linemates ) vancouver is 32nd on the rush this year, is tochett fully to blame for EP's short comings for points? no, but the way hes making this team play doesnt help
As a Sens fan and Season Ticket Holder in Ottawa, some insight. The Senators ae currently working with the National Capital Commission, A Federal Government body who owns and operates Federal Government properties within the Ottawa National Capital Region, to purchase a parcel of land at LeBretton flats which is currently owned by the Federal Government. Michael Andlauer is frustrated that the government is dragging their feet on the sale but anyone who lives in Ottawa knows that his is just what they do. On the Quebec stuff, I'd estimate that about 80% of Hockey fans in Gatineau cheer for the Habs. Eugene Melnyk and the ownership groups before him did not do a good job at appealing to the French fans and the Gatineau market. Fans in Gatineau were pretty isolated from the team so that is absolutely a market they should be focused on. The Sens have the best shot of any NHL team to be the default alternate choice or French Canadian Hockey fans if they can appeal t that market. Having big name French Canadian players like Claude Giroux and Thomas Chabot helps as well. Honestly, nobody would even care about playing a couple games in Quebec City if it wasn't for Melnyk threatening to move the team there. It is naturally a very sore spot currently. I think that Andlauer has generally done a very good job with the team and he has repeatedly emphasized how committed he is to the Ottawa/Gatineau market and how everything he does is for the fans. I think that generally any attempt to attract new Sens fans or convert fans is good but I think Andlauer just tried to move a little too quickly before the current Sens fan were ready for that kind of move. It's a mistake and one he will no doubt learn from.
"pig" = "svin" /svi:n/ or "gris" /gri:s/ in swedish "svin" is used like "asshole" in english, and is associated with boars. A "svin" is mean-spirited and a downright evil shithead. "gris" is more used in the sense of "pig" where there is a brashness that is more accidental. It's still a gross and often inconsiderate person. They have a less calculated meanness. A "buffoon" is a good equivalence. Just wanted to add more context for those looking at the original Expressen article.
The only thing I give petterson is that his deffensive play in his own end is next level and to those that only look at his points will miss that elite deffensive play. Now if only his offense can get going
Thank you for putting a spotlight on the Ducks this episode. Glad there’s a more in-depth discussion about the team. Nice break from y’all just saying they’re depressing lol
Swede here. The last part of the Silverberg statement “then he behaved like a pig” can be translated roughly with context to “When he did that he behaved like a pig.” He’s not referencing what happened in the future but what happened in the present (the timeout)
Also Ivan Miroshnichenko, Ryan Chesley, Terik Parascak, and Alexander Suzdalev. The only place of question imo in their pipeline is their goalies, although Garin Bjorklund and Mitchell Gibson have been playing well this year.
@@otto6702 logan thompson is around for a while, so there's time. maybe they finally give hunter shepard a shot at backup next year, h3e's been great for hershey for a while. washington is doing right everything that pittsburgh is doing wrong. this is why the post ovi caps will be a good team and the post-sid pens will be ass for a while. caps have great scouts, apparently.
So as a Ducks fan a couple things: 1. McTavis is 2nd star of week 2. We all want Cronin fired. It’s more of a debate if it’s worth firing him this late in the season. 3. Z has literally missed most of the season with injuries. When on the ice he’s productive.
The year the Penguins had Ron Hainsey and Justin Schultz as their top defensemen was the year they went back to back against the Predators. He won both Conn Smythes. He also earned a Gold Medal and an MVP in the World Cup of Hockey in between those two Cups. All this hardware in the span of a year. At the current rate, this clears any potential Cup Ovi wins this year, unless he has some Herculean feat in the playoffs, which I would not put past him.
Andlauer wants to grow the Sens brand akin to the Green Bay Packers, in the sense that the Sens are a small market franchise and finding a few fans elsewhere would go a long way to helping the franchise sustain itself in the National Capital Region. What he failed to realize is that the previous ownership has threatened to move the team out of the region and even suggesting the Sens play pre-season games, let alone regular games (which he did), not to mention scything the Sens logo in half, might trigger the fanbase. Learning moment for Andlauer and the Sens senior management.
Idk why Miller was tasked with dealing with Petey. Hughes makes sense, but Garland seems like a far better choice. Petey works better with a more encouragement style of practice, Bruce Boudreau spoke on this many times.
As a hockey fan in general, I know a lot of the things surrounding the sport are super niche. But as a sens fan, the outrage about the half jersey is so niche i started levitating. What are we doing here guys lol we are third in the Atlantic, I do not care about literally anything else
Vancouver management putting the onus on veteran players to address their issues instead of on the coaching staff is like parents putting all the responsibility of raising their younger children on their 14 year old.
Between Nov. 5th-Dec. 10th, Elias Pettersson has 22pts in 17 games. He was scoring at 1.29p and was on pace for 106 points before slowing down. That Pettersson is still in there somewhere. If the Canucks aren’t able to to unlock that (they are completely underutilized the Sedins), another team definitely will and it will be another “the one that got away” situation.
I'm guessing Silfverberg called Cronin a "svin" and not "gris". Both translate to pig, but "svin" can be used like "asshole" but calling someone a "gris" indicates that they are disgusting.
I wonder if we look back on the Canucks saga in a couple years the same as the Flames. One phenomenal season that flamed out in the second round and the team fell apart due to off-ice issues (in the Flames case, dealing with Sutter).
Perhaps, but the Flames had decent to good regular seasons prior to that phenomenal season. They'd made the playoffs in 3 of the last 5 years leading up to the 2021-22 season. Hell, that season wasn't even their only 50 win season they'd done the same in the 2018-19 season. I'd say that's a huge factor that differentiates them from the Canucks saga. There was effectively 0 success for the Canucks in the regular season from 2019 to 2023, and the only post-season appearance in 2020 was purely by luck. If the season had progressed as normal the Canucks weren't going to be there. All of that is to say this Canucks team has not experienced success before that one season. More importantly, the issues that are apparently destroying the team now are issues that have been festering for half a decade allegedly? Off-Ice issues that seem to extend far beyond any individual players now. There's so much drama that spans years it's going to be something else entirely when we can finally look back on it in hindsight.
Ottawa vs florida playoff. Brother vs brother dinner table arguments on amazon series. The drama. Final 3 playoff spots i want habs, sens, and blue jackets
52:40 Also can we just say how refreshing it is for a management person to come out publicly and say "Im sorry this was my fault?" rather than bang on "we can and we will" with 4 guys over 12 million dollars.
I don't see how you can't blame the management on the Canucks situation. Sounds like they didn't do their job putting the leadership group in charge of Peterson. Now that that didn't work and caused rifts they are blaming the players? If I was a player I would want out
Petersson’s also been dealing with awful tendinitis ever since the second half of last season. He was on pace for like 112 something points before then.
Literally everything is working against Pettersson. The coach employs a style he doesn't do well in, he has been INJURED which people seem to keep forgetting, and then he has a teammate hounding him for his play when he's known to be a guy who thrives on positivity.
the fact that you guys didnt see vancouver having a rough season as a possibility is shocking to me... every team ever that has come out of no where to be good one year has struggled the next (seattle, new jersey are the 2 most recent examples before vancouver).... it is totally possible that they make some changes and turn things around the following year (see new jersey this year), but saying vancouver would struggle this year was honestly one of the easiest bets in all of sport
The difference between Washington and Pittsburgh in the last few seasons is, the Penguins kept swinging for the fences and failed address their depth, while the Capitals were decimated by injuries until this season but were trying to add pieces that improved their team. There was a chance for the Penguins to stop the bleeding, but instead they doubled down at getting older, slower, and having less depth with some bad signings. After several seasons of the Capitals being gutted by injuries, this season they're the team they're supposed to be. Ovechkin is a feel good story in Washington but isn't being relied on to drag the team kicking and screaming into the playoffs the way Crosby still is.
Back to back cups are more impressive. Also even if Caps win this year, it's 3 VS 2 cups. Adam is just spouting yet another of his very intellectual opinions. Nothing new here.
You guys usually have little to say about the Ducks, and I can tell you dont pay close attention to Anaheim, but this take on Cronin is SPOT ON! Thanks for being another voice of reason on the unreasonable choice to keep that guy in as head coach. He needs a new job and a new haircut. Both are way past due.
Owen Pickering, Harrison Brunicke, Tristan Broz, Ponomarev, Ville Koivunen, Tanner Howe, Rutger McGroarty, Blomqvist, Murashev. The Pens young guys are coming. Stop commenting on things you’re unaware of.
added context for the sens/Nordiques jersey that makes it make a lil more sense (still idiotic): Sens are playing 2 pre-season games in Qc. This is to promote that. You guys also missed Andlauer's quote about wanting to play REGULAR season games in Qc, which Bill Daly clearly did not like. I feel like this is the much bigger, developing story. Either Jesse is right and this man has just forgotten he's not in Quebec anymore.... are is Adam right and he is legitimately using Qc city as a threat? I don't really believe that.... but Andlauer does have reason to be pissed of at the NHL and has not been shy about being vocal. He is BIG MAD about that lost pick and frankly, I agree, Gary shafted him right after purchase. But using Qc city like that? It's just pissing off your fans and potentially pissing of Quebeckers who are probably kinda tired of being used as pawns by the league when they want to drive up prices.
Saying Cronin shouldn't have been hired because of AHL playoff exits is a ridiculous take. His tenure with the Eagles was incredibly successful and he had great testimonials from players. Something is clearly rotten in Anaheim but you're fully just making up history to fit the narrative you want.
As someone who has family who are “never habs” fans, yes generally they are older and my cousins who are my age are a little more likely to go to habs games. But I think they want the older crowd to get their kids to follow the sens
Funny enough, as I'm listening to Jesse talk about all Boston needs to do is figure out their special teams I read on Twitter, they're hiring Chara as a consultant. 😂
1:10:22 I know it's such a small thing, but it's awesome hearing anyone say "Binghamton." Born and raised. And the HUGE hockey community here completely ignores the existence of the Devils.
I got another angle for your hypothetical, what happens if Ovi and Syd meet in the cup final this year? Washington vs Colorado , what a way to end a rivalry!
Quick question, would it be possible if Big bad Berube , to get us winning the Stanley cup. And possibly be the first in a while to at least 5 cups in a row 😅GO LEAFSS GOOO BABYYYY💙💙💙💙
Yall should get Brodie Brazil to appear as a special guest on one of these. Feel like it’d be a sweet convo especially on the Sharks since Steve does claim to be a Sharks Truther
Watch enough rangers game you wouldn’t be surprised at all that Trocheck passed on that breakaway. The 2 on 0 earlier in the season still gives me nightmares
The Tocchet Canucks want to play 2-1 games where both teams grind their way to 20 shots and Van is better at doing that than most. Low-event system is everything (and it does give more time and space to their d-men, of which Hughes can exploit, which in fairness could be a winning strategy). Everyone buys in and everyone... wins? Tocchet believes practice makes perfect. If you're not perfect, practice IS the reason why. He's probably the ideal coach for grinders. Pettersson is ridiculously smart and talented, and can play great two-way hockey by reading the play. He got a bunch of Selke votes centering Andre Kuzmenko. Meanwhile all he's done in the last 1.5 years is try to rigorously play defensive system hockey and hilariously it doesn't even make him or his line defensively better but he has clearly lost all confidence in his offensive ability along the way. Funnily enough telling him to practice harder hasn't fixed that. JT Miller can play an outstanding grinding game if he's actually focused and bought-in. If their ages were reversed the Canucks would take the slightly less capable player who fits their system perfectly every time. Even if they trade Miller they're going to have to bend their system if they want any of their forwards to become risk taking offensive stars. Assuming they want to stick with Tocchet they screwed themselves by not moving Pettersson last year, the dude can't excel playing grunt hockey.
Did a deep dive today- connor hellebuyck has allowed 80 goals this season on 1096 shots so far. You guys will like this, john tavares has the most goals against hellebuyck so far this season with 4, as of january 29th, 2025
GM's need to start giving shorter contracts and paying less for the top players. Both JT and Pettersson are worth less than 6 M a year. Both over paid. No team needs these boat anchors. Kudos to players who take less like Sid the Kid and Brad Marchant.
You guys should come to an NHL game in south Florida it's pretty cheap and enjoyable. Picked up a 4 game ticket pack that includes a Bobrovsky bobblehead for 125$... so good. Tampa is cheap too every game for either team has 15-25 dollar tickets most of the time. Being an NHL fan down here used to suck until around 2014 then it only kind of sucked, and now its been awesome for half a decade with both arenas within an afternoon drive. Love the pod cheers
hum... the Petterson talk at the beginning makes it sound like he's a soft guy... Not in the way he plays be in the way he handles criticism. Doesn't sound like the type of personality that reacts well to getting pushed or pressured. He seems the more new-school gloves on approach of positive reinforcement. We've seen it work and coaches adapt to it, but god damn that must be rough in a dressing room with 25ish other guys. Do not like, hope it's just an impression and not true.
1:19:32 @Adam Wylde. No because Ovechkin far and away is being fed goals and wouldn't be the reason they won the cup. 2016 pens with Hainsey top pair still more impressive by a mile.
Me myself fint it refreshing that a person in power of the nhl is forthcoming. That is not usual but still something we always scream for. Then again, I have the image of Rutherford to be a person that historically has been open towards media. Same media that complain about GMs not saying anything. Also, we don't need to judge and direct blame. We can simply analyse. We all have a thought of how things started but its now kinda beyond simple blame. Hell, didnt Horvath also get in team scrums at the end of his tour hence this goes way back. Ease up on the blame and focus on analysing what we know, historically, following a red thread backwards.
I mean…seeing the direction of both franchises…tell me why not?? Haha To Vancouver: Bertuzzi, Bedard, Jones To Chicago: Pettersson, Boeser, Hoglander, Myers, Silovs 1st rders in 25, 26, 27
Rumors of Boston’s downfall have been greatly exaggerated 😂. They are still in a playoff spot and all those games teams had in hand are going in the L column 😂
Hey Steve, right now, you're the youngest you'll ever be. At the same time, you're the oldest you've ever been. I teach in Japan and have students from 20 to 80+ years old. Nobody is happy at their age. Everyone feel old. What I take from that is this: nobody's old until they decide it themselves and sit on a rocking chair on thier porch yelling at clouds.
Thank Adam for approaching the Spartacat picture from a marketing POV; nordique fans are 50… and Steve from a fan POV; you need to appeal to sens sens fans first.
*Kings fan hearing the boys question the Ducks organizational use of high draft-high potential player: That’s so dumb … please don’t notice that Jim Hiller scratched Brandt Clarke
47:00 So the thing that has me with this, we own the Nordiques name still, right? Avs still own it, so did the Sens get permission to use the jersey like this???
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You guys should take clips of Steve's hot takes and call it "Angle of Dangle"
Dangle’s Angles!!
The Dangle Angle
The angle of the dangle
I guess Adam's hot takes could be called "Wylde opinions"
And if Jesse has a segment on young players it could be called "The blakeout star". Maybe that would be suitable for a short video format (shorts, tiktok, instagram) before the draft just talking about the highest prospects and their strengths etc.
@@RafGatthey should look at hiring you. Those are brilliant lol
remember when steve did his hottakapalooza about how 40-50 isnt old lol
That didn’t age well lol
This show rocks.
Pettersson had a killer instinct when he came into the league. Every shot seemed like he was trying to break the net, but he seems to have lost that mindset.
And they refuse to get a sports psychologist involved.
@@JH-jw7pu he desperatley needs one
not only has he lost that mindset, but his coach refuses to play the way that best suits him, hes a rush player, he thrives off the rush and having good wingers who can hold the puck, his linemates and the way tochett has the team playing does neither, noglander and karlsson have a combined 10 points ( his linemates ) vancouver is 32nd on the rush this year, is tochett fully to blame for EP's short comings for points? no, but the way hes making this team play doesnt help
Amazon is following Brady this year. A Tkachuk bowl in the first round would be GREAT CONTENT even outside the actual series
Senators' shirt merch could include "I'm a Hull of a Sens Fan!"
As a Sens fan and Season Ticket Holder in Ottawa, some insight. The Senators ae currently working with the National Capital Commission, A Federal Government body who owns and operates Federal Government properties within the Ottawa National Capital Region, to purchase a parcel of land at LeBretton flats which is currently owned by the Federal Government. Michael Andlauer is frustrated that the government is dragging their feet on the sale but anyone who lives in Ottawa knows that his is just what they do. On the Quebec stuff, I'd estimate that about 80% of Hockey fans in Gatineau cheer for the Habs. Eugene Melnyk and the ownership groups before him did not do a good job at appealing to the French fans and the Gatineau market. Fans in Gatineau were pretty isolated from the team so that is absolutely a market they should be focused on. The Sens have the best shot of any NHL team to be the default alternate choice or French Canadian Hockey fans if they can appeal t that market. Having big name French Canadian players like Claude Giroux and Thomas Chabot helps as well. Honestly, nobody would even care about playing a couple games in Quebec City if it wasn't for Melnyk threatening to move the team there. It is naturally a very sore spot currently. I think that Andlauer has generally done a very good job with the team and he has repeatedly emphasized how committed he is to the Ottawa/Gatineau market and how everything he does is for the fans. I think that generally any attempt to attract new Sens fans or convert fans is good but I think Andlauer just tried to move a little too quickly before the current Sens fan were ready for that kind of move. It's a mistake and one he will no doubt learn from.
Great show. Can’t wait for the elimination LFR video after the 1st round. Keep it up!
Thank you very heyyyyy wait a minute
Dominik's day? All Hail Dominik Mysterio an ex-con who turned his life around after his deadbeat father Rey Mysterio never bothered to raise him.
And now Dom thinks with his nethers.
@@iAmCyberwaste bro has +1mil Rizz
BRING BACK SLAP HAPPY MCSAD
"pig" = "svin" /svi:n/ or "gris" /gri:s/ in swedish
"svin" is used like "asshole" in english, and is associated with boars. A "svin" is mean-spirited and a downright evil shithead.
"gris" is more used in the sense of "pig" where there is a brashness that is more accidental. It's still a gross and often inconsiderate person. They have a less calculated meanness. A "buffoon" is a good equivalence.
Just wanted to add more context for those looking at the original Expressen article.
The only thing I give petterson is that his deffensive play in his own end is next level and to those that only look at his points will miss that elite deffensive play.
Now if only his offense can get going
Thank you for putting a spotlight on the Ducks this episode. Glad there’s a more in-depth discussion about the team. Nice break from y’all just saying they’re depressing lol
For the love of Christ can y'all talk about the number one team in the nhl Washington capitals without talking about the damn penguins
no
You ok Nick?
Cry a little more
Its almost as bad as them saying who belongs in the playoffs and who doesn't while cheering for the leafs.
Swede here. The last part of the Silverberg statement “then he behaved like a pig” can be translated roughly with context to “When he did that he behaved like a pig.” He’s not referencing what happened in the future but what happened in the present (the timeout)
Driving time between Ottawa and Quebec City is about 4.5 hours each way.
Caps pipeline includes:
Ryan Leonard, Cole Hutson, Ilya Protas, Andrew Cristall, and more. So unbelievably set for the future
Add miro and Alexander Suzdalev to that list
Also Ivan Miroshnichenko, Ryan Chesley, Terik Parascak, and Alexander Suzdalev. The only place of question imo in their pipeline is their goalies, although Garin Bjorklund and Mitchell Gibson have been playing well this year.
@@otto6702 logan thompson is around for a while, so there's time. maybe they finally give hunter shepard a shot at backup next year, h3e's been great for hershey for a while.
washington is doing right everything that pittsburgh is doing wrong. this is why the post ovi caps will be a good team and the post-sid pens will be ass for a while.
caps have great scouts, apparently.
So as a Ducks fan a couple things:
1. McTavis is 2nd star of week
2. We all want Cronin fired. It’s more of a debate if it’s worth firing him this late in the season.
3. Z has literally missed most of the season with injuries. When on the ice he’s productive.
exactly how has zegras been productive?
The year the Penguins had Ron Hainsey and Justin Schultz as their top defensemen was the year they went back to back against the Predators. He won both Conn Smythes. He also earned a Gold Medal and an MVP in the World Cup of Hockey in between those two Cups. All this hardware in the span of a year. At the current rate, this clears any potential Cup Ovi wins this year, unless he has some Herculean feat in the playoffs, which I would not put past him.
Andlauer wants to grow the Sens brand akin to the Green Bay Packers, in the sense that the Sens are a small market franchise and finding a few fans elsewhere would go a long way to helping the franchise sustain itself in the National Capital Region.
What he failed to realize is that the previous ownership has threatened to move the team out of the region and even suggesting the Sens play pre-season games, let alone regular games (which he did), not to mention scything the Sens logo in half, might trigger the fanbase. Learning moment for Andlauer and the Sens senior management.
Idk why Miller was tasked with dealing with Petey. Hughes makes sense, but Garland seems like a far better choice. Petey works better with a more encouragement style of practice, Bruce Boudreau spoke on this many times.
Should be a coach's job not a player's
Washington Capitals Capfriendly may have given them more information on players then most people think.
As a hockey fan in general, I know a lot of the things surrounding the sport are super niche. But as a sens fan, the outrage about the half jersey is so niche i started levitating. What are we doing here guys lol we are third in the Atlantic, I do not care about literally anything else
Vancouver management putting the onus on veteran players to address their issues instead of on the coaching staff is like parents putting all the responsibility of raising their younger children on their 14 year old.
Kudos to Maddie for the exchange between Steve and Adam during the Brock University bit.
I love our third line center
-the entire Ducks fanbase
BROCK U MENTIONED! LETS GO!
Between Nov. 5th-Dec. 10th, Elias Pettersson has 22pts in 17 games. He was scoring at 1.29p and was on pace for 106 points before slowing down. That Pettersson is still in there somewhere. If the Canucks aren’t able to to unlock that (they are completely underutilized the Sedins), another team definitely will and it will be another “the one that got away” situation.
I'm guessing Silfverberg called Cronin a "svin" and not "gris". Both translate to pig, but "svin" can be used like "asshole" but calling someone a "gris" indicates that they are disgusting.
Proud you guys managed a 90 minute show when there was not a single piece of real leafs news between the 2 shows.
I wonder if we look back on the Canucks saga in a couple years the same as the Flames. One phenomenal season that flamed out in the second round and the team fell apart due to off-ice issues (in the Flames case, dealing with Sutter).
Perhaps, but the Flames had decent to good regular seasons prior to that phenomenal season. They'd made the playoffs in 3 of the last 5 years leading up to the 2021-22 season. Hell, that season wasn't even their only 50 win season they'd done the same in the 2018-19 season.
I'd say that's a huge factor that differentiates them from the Canucks saga. There was effectively 0 success for the Canucks in the regular season from 2019 to 2023, and the only post-season appearance in 2020 was purely by luck. If the season had progressed as normal the Canucks weren't going to be there.
All of that is to say this Canucks team has not experienced success before that one season. More importantly, the issues that are apparently destroying the team now are issues that have been festering for half a decade allegedly? Off-Ice issues that seem to extend far beyond any individual players now. There's so much drama that spans years it's going to be something else entirely when we can finally look back on it in hindsight.
Ottawa vs florida playoff. Brother vs brother dinner table arguments on amazon series. The drama.
Final 3 playoff spots i want habs, sens, and blue jackets
52:40 Also can we just say how refreshing it is for a management person to come out publicly and say "Im sorry this was my fault?" rather than bang on "we can and we will" with 4 guys over 12 million dollars.
I don't see how you can't blame the management on the Canucks situation.
Sounds like they didn't do their job putting the leadership group in charge of Peterson. Now that that didn't work and caused rifts they are blaming the players?
If I was a player I would want out
Talking about Wash. winning cup better than any Pit cup is foolish. It's a team game not best player game like basketball
Petersson’s also been dealing with awful tendinitis ever since the second half of last season. He was on pace for like 112 something points before then.
Literally everything is working against Pettersson. The coach employs a style he doesn't do well in, he has been INJURED which people seem to keep forgetting, and then he has a teammate hounding him for his play when he's known to be a guy who thrives on positivity.
47:40 I mean, technically correct, but underselling it a little bit. Connor MCDAVID was not born into a world with the Quebec Nordiques!
the fact that you guys didnt see vancouver having a rough season as a possibility is shocking to me... every team ever that has come out of no where to be good one year has struggled the next (seattle, new jersey are the 2 most recent examples before vancouver).... it is totally possible that they make some changes and turn things around the following year (see new jersey this year), but saying vancouver would struggle this year was honestly one of the easiest bets in all of sport
Adam, you KILLED that intro!!!
Third times the charm 😜
He's out there talking like a 75 year old who doesn't care - because he's 75.
-Jesse Blake, talking about Rim Jutherford
Hear me out: Maybe Jim Rutherford is not good at his job, look at what he did with Canes and Pens before Canucks
it was an extremely suspect hire from the start.
Philipp Grubauer on waivers today.
he may well be the worst goalie in the NHL this year, and i had cayden primeau on my team.
The difference between Washington and Pittsburgh in the last few seasons is, the Penguins kept swinging for the fences and failed address their depth, while the Capitals were decimated by injuries until this season but were trying to add pieces that improved their team. There was a chance for the Penguins to stop the bleeding, but instead they doubled down at getting older, slower, and having less depth with some bad signings. After several seasons of the Capitals being gutted by injuries, this season they're the team they're supposed to be. Ovechkin is a feel good story in Washington but isn't being relied on to drag the team kicking and screaming into the playoffs the way Crosby still is.
In regards to Washington a huge factor that doesn't get enough credit Is the cap space created by backstrom and oshie going on LTIR .
Another factor that doesn't come up is Nic Dowd. I think there's a solid argument that he's the best bottom 6 forward in the league.
@ericekman4190 Jake Evans is having a better season , but i understand what your saying here
Adam's laugh reminds me of Squidward's laugh ahahahaha so contageious
Credit card hadn’t been invented until after Rutherford was born.
when jim was born, russia didn't have nukes.
I appreciated the 8 mile reference, and I'm 29. WHICH APPARENTLY ISN'T OLD ACCORDING TO STEVE YET IT FEELS LIKE IT WHEN THAT MOVIE IS 23 YEARS OLD.
Adam: "As leafs fans, we don't want to play anybody, just give us the cup"..I laughed so hard at that..
Back to back cups are more impressive. Also even if Caps win this year, it's 3 VS 2 cups. Adam is just spouting yet another of his very intellectual opinions. Nothing new here.
You guys usually have little to say about the Ducks, and I can tell you dont pay close attention to Anaheim, but this take on Cronin is SPOT ON! Thanks for being another voice of reason on the unreasonable choice to keep that guy in as head coach. He needs a new job and a new haircut. Both are way past due.
Dom Shine is a gamer, been watching him in GR for years.
Got a kick out of Steve’s reaction to the fact 8 Mile came out in 2002 lol - we’re all getting old
Mark Stone sucks
Owen Pickering, Harrison Brunicke, Tristan Broz, Ponomarev, Ville Koivunen, Tanner Howe, Rutger McGroarty, Blomqvist, Murashev. The Pens young guys are coming. Stop commenting on things you’re unaware of.
added context for the sens/Nordiques jersey that makes it make a lil more sense (still idiotic): Sens are playing 2 pre-season games in Qc. This is to promote that.
You guys also missed Andlauer's quote about wanting to play REGULAR season games in Qc, which Bill Daly clearly did not like. I feel like this is the much bigger, developing story. Either Jesse is right and this man has just forgotten he's not in Quebec anymore.... are is Adam right and he is legitimately using Qc city as a threat? I don't really believe that.... but Andlauer does have reason to be pissed of at the NHL and has not been shy about being vocal. He is BIG MAD about that lost pick and frankly, I agree, Gary shafted him right after purchase. But using Qc city like that? It's just pissing off your fans and potentially pissing of Quebeckers who are probably kinda tired of being used as pawns by the league when they want to drive up prices.
@28:00 speaking of, it’s crazy that not everyone knows this but Anthony Mackie, Falcon from The Avengers, was Papa Doc in 8 Mile.
Freddie sure was the problem in the playoffs with 0.915 0.896 0.922
0.936 playoffs save percentage for toronto and carreer 0.914
Saying Cronin shouldn't have been hired because of AHL playoff exits is a ridiculous take. His tenure with the Eagles was incredibly successful and he had great testimonials from players. Something is clearly rotten in Anaheim but you're fully just making up history to fit the narrative you want.
Uhhh I’m pretty sure Kevin Weeke’s tweeting the Pittsburgh skyline fueled the Sid to AV’s speculation
Another point about the Nordiques. Nathan MacKinnon was born after they weren't a team. He's never known a world without them
As someone who has family who are “never habs” fans, yes generally they are older and my cousins who are my age are a little more likely to go to habs games. But I think they want the older crowd to get their kids to follow the sens
Funny enough, as I'm listening to Jesse talk about all Boston needs to do is figure out their special teams I read on Twitter, they're hiring Chara as a consultant. 😂
Has amazon starter filming already?
I'm 24 and I got the 8 Mile reference
According to Chatgpt an NHL team stands to gain about 5m for every game they sell out. A first round exit is still +10-15m of revenue to owners
commenting before watching to see if they talked about mark stone taking out miro and probably ruining finlands chances
1:10:22 I know it's such a small thing, but it's awesome hearing anyone say "Binghamton." Born and raised. And the HUGE hockey community here completely ignores the existence of the Devils.
I got another angle for your hypothetical, what happens if Ovi and Syd meet in the cup final this year? Washington vs Colorado , what a way to end a rivalry!
Quick question, would it be possible if Big bad Berube , to get us winning the Stanley cup. And possibly be the first in a while to at least 5 cups in a row 😅GO LEAFSS GOOO BABYYYY💙💙💙💙
If the Penguins aren’t trading Crosby, give me JT Miller in the Pitt
I could see Tocchet going to Anaheim next season 😂
Yall should get Brodie Brazil to appear as a special guest on one of these. Feel like it’d be a sweet convo especially on the Sharks since Steve does claim to be a Sharks Truther
Caps sold at the last two deadlines too.
Watch enough rangers game you wouldn’t be surprised at all that Trocheck passed on that breakaway. The 2 on 0 earlier in the season still gives me nightmares
The Tocchet Canucks want to play 2-1 games where both teams grind their way to 20 shots and Van is better at doing that than most. Low-event system is everything (and it does give more time and space to their d-men, of which Hughes can exploit, which in fairness could be a winning strategy). Everyone buys in and everyone... wins?
Tocchet believes practice makes perfect. If you're not perfect, practice IS the reason why. He's probably the ideal coach for grinders.
Pettersson is ridiculously smart and talented, and can play great two-way hockey by reading the play. He got a bunch of Selke votes centering Andre Kuzmenko. Meanwhile all he's done in the last 1.5 years is try to rigorously play defensive system hockey and hilariously it doesn't even make him or his line defensively better but he has clearly lost all confidence in his offensive ability along the way. Funnily enough telling him to practice harder hasn't fixed that.
JT Miller can play an outstanding grinding game if he's actually focused and bought-in. If their ages were reversed the Canucks would take the slightly less capable player who fits their system perfectly every time.
Even if they trade Miller they're going to have to bend their system if they want any of their forwards to become risk taking offensive stars. Assuming they want to stick with Tocchet they screwed themselves by not moving Pettersson last year, the dude can't excel playing grunt hockey.
Did a deep dive today- connor hellebuyck has allowed 80 goals this season on 1096 shots so far. You guys will like this, john tavares has the most goals against hellebuyck so far this season with 4, as of january 29th, 2025
GM's need to start giving shorter contracts and paying less for the top players. Both JT and Pettersson are worth less than 6 M a year. Both over paid. No team needs these boat anchors. Kudos to players who take less like Sid the Kid and Brad Marchant.
❤Caps talk
WHYYYYYYYYYY NOOOOOOTTTTTTTT?!?!?!?!!?!?!?
WHY NOT?!?!?!?
Bring back Panago Pizza as a sponsor!
You guys should come to an NHL game in south Florida it's pretty cheap and enjoyable. Picked up a 4 game ticket pack that includes a Bobrovsky bobblehead for 125$... so good. Tampa is cheap too every game for either team has 15-25 dollar tickets most of the time. Being an NHL fan down here used to suck until around 2014 then it only kind of sucked, and now its been awesome for half a decade with both arenas within an afternoon drive. Love the pod cheers
hum... the Petterson talk at the beginning makes it sound like he's a soft guy... Not in the way he plays be in the way he handles criticism. Doesn't sound like the type of personality that reacts well to getting pushed or pressured. He seems the more new-school gloves on approach of positive reinforcement. We've seen it work and coaches adapt to it, but god damn that must be rough in a dressing room with 25ish other guys.
Do not like, hope it's just an impression and not true.
1:19:32 @Adam Wylde. No because Ovechkin far and away is being fed goals and wouldn't be the reason they won the cup. 2016 pens with Hainsey top pair still more impressive by a mile.
I haven't seen a bruins pp this bad since 2011... Ideally, Lindholm goes back to Van for Miller and our top 2 defenseman return from injury.
Me myself fint it refreshing that a person in power of the nhl is forthcoming. That is not usual but still something we always scream for. Then again, I have the image of Rutherford to be a person that historically has been open towards media. Same media that complain about GMs not saying anything.
Also, we don't need to judge and direct blame. We can simply analyse. We all have a thought of how things started but its now kinda beyond simple blame.
Hell, didnt Horvath also get in team scrums at the end of his tour hence this goes way back.
Ease up on the blame and focus on analysing what we know, historically, following a red thread backwards.
uh Lincoln is in Nebraska Steve. Its the capital actually.
Pettersson for Byram and Cozens actually sounds like a win win trade.
I mean…seeing the direction of both franchises…tell me why not?? Haha
To Vancouver: Bertuzzi, Bedard, Jones
To Chicago: Pettersson, Boeser, Hoglander, Myers, Silovs 1st rders in 25, 26, 27
GOOO LEAFS GOOOO BABY 💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙
They avoid the sens like the plague when they are good
Rumors of Boston’s downfall have been greatly exaggerated 😂. They are still in a playoff spot and all those games teams had in hand are going in the L column 😂
Hey Steve, right now, you're the youngest you'll ever be. At the same time, you're the oldest you've ever been.
I teach in Japan and have students from 20 to 80+ years old. Nobody is happy at their age. Everyone feel old.
What I take from that is this: nobody's old until they decide it themselves and sit on a rocking chair on thier porch yelling at clouds.
Greg Cronin: At least he's not Mike Babcock.
Thank Adam for approaching the Spartacat picture from a marketing POV; nordique fans are 50… and Steve from a fan POV; you need to appeal to sens sens fans first.
*Kings fan hearing the boys question the Ducks organizational use of high draft-high potential player: That’s so dumb
… please don’t notice that Jim Hiller scratched Brandt Clarke
Believe it or not QC has a large amount of Leafs fans because of the "never Habs fans" mentality.
47:00 So the thing that has me with this, we own the Nordiques name still, right? Avs still own it, so did the Sens get permission to use the jersey like this???
Bruins are running without 3 of their top 4 D, their demise has been exaggerated
Shout out to Brock ,down the street from me .
As a canucks fan life is pain. Its been a decade of bad hockey and wasted talent here. They finally get good and watchable and they fall apart