@@gildfps This is the most ignorant take I ever heard, yet somehow, I was expecting a reply like this😂 Almost forgot, enjoy squeezing +210w at 50% load.
You should add Cinebench 2024 to your testing. It's added testing for GPU's now and you can also test single core score which is another metric I think would add to your testing. It's also gonna show a bit more fair of a comparison especially when comparing a 8 core CPU to a 24 core one... Nice video keep it up!
@EatFruitPlantSeeds if you overclock the 14900ks to its max it can draw up to 400 watts on certain applications. I'm not sure where you get 90-120 for the i9 stock it's nowhere near that while gaming or running cinebench or other apps
@EatFruitPlantSeeds yes CS2 can run on a potato 😂 and it doesn't use much power. pacman doesn't eather 😂you could've at least tried warzone. Anyway I obviously tune my pc different to you and use different apps to properly test for stability if your happy with running apps or games that pull a couple of hundred watts and you think your pc is stable I'm happy for you enjoy your pc and I'll enjoy mine.
@EatFruitPlantSeeds the reason I brought up stability is because you brought up "properly tuned" and I'll stick with my original comment "the only downside to intel is power draw " if you don't believe intel can use much more power then I don't care. I didn't mention anything to do with gaming when I said "the only downside to intel is power draw" I get your point that in some games the power difference isn't massive but you don't get my point if you use different apps like cinebench ycruncher vt3 the difference can be massive! I personally don't care about the electricity bill because I own the 13900kf.
thank you. this is what ive been looking for and its so hard to find. if you do comparisons in the future i personally would be really dig if you did some insane spinning with 8000hz in a game and compare the fps from intel vs amd. I think amd drops a lot harder but Ive found nothing to prove it.
It's good that you test them OC vs OC, but you need to show in game recorded run & telemetry on screen, bar graphs and trust me bro is outdated in 2024. This is why I don't believe AMDumboxed and GN and others, because bar graphs can easily be manipulated and they all do it. Take a note from Daniel Owen's channel how he does benchmarks and add you OC flavor on top of it and you got a good channel for growing.
Awesome vid,But one thing people really need to consider is that it’s just not that smart to spend so much money on a eol platform.Amd will be easy beat intel next year with the new chip,That will be a drop in upgrade.So hold up before you spend the kidney money on a dead platform.
Even with no CCLK overclock on the 7800X3D it performs AMAZING... people don't realize that when you are getting above 240fps and it's consistent who cares. You will be more worried about making a compact, low temp, low power build and that just isn't possible with Intel considering how hot and power hungry they run. With the world wide energy crisis too, power consumption will matter to more and more people. You are flexing useless numbers at this point. More needs to be tested when it comes to the reviews chamber, I love that you are one of the few who actually benchmark Intel cpus at their max but there is always more to it then just FPS, especially when the 7800X3D in this review isn't even using a CCLK overclock which can add upwards of 15% to average fps and 20% in the 0.1% lows. In this day and age with all the 240Hz 4K OLEDs coming you'll be gpu bound anyway, get into 7900XTX EVC3 vs 4090 1000W videos, that will be more interesting because outside of our small community of Intel fans people just don't care about X3D vs 14900KS (because of how inefficient intel is).
Probably gonna get a lot of hate for this comment but it's what it is, when people mature and start to realize the reality of this world you'll understand why what I say is so important. Its not that I'm having problems with high power on intel personally, its that even simply my co-workers and friends are worried because they are having trouble making a power bill simply because of how expensive it has become in this day and age. $30-60 less on bills a month means they can save for that fun trip they want to go on in a year or two. Or towards a car. or some big life purchase. The real world is a lot more fun than video games.
Overclocking/adjusting the CCLK isn't easy to achieve on X3D chips and it raises both the PL and heat output of the CPU. I was able to achieve 103mhz and this raised temperatures in Apex to 70c consistently, which is not something I'd like to do, I'd like to keep the temperature down if possible. You also lose the ability to apply useful and meaningful CO's, you start approaching positive offsets, which again, increases temperature and it's not that serious. Since when did you care about AMD anyway? Did shilling for Intel get boring?
People hating on AMD but forget that the 14900KS realest a few months ago while the 7800x3d launched january last year. This is not even the strongest gaming CPU AMD can come up with. Take a moment to realize that the 7800x3d still holds up among the newest released CPU's even though it's half the price. "B- But the Intel is better for all the tasks, streaming, rendering" Yeah, you buy it because of this reason and you're not even a streamer or create content in any form, you buy it to play story games while on discord. The 7800x3d isn't even made to be overclocked, yet it still holds up with an overclockable 2024 CPU worth 600$
@@ChamberTech yeah, in multitasking, try gaming and 7800x3d overtakes in 90% of the games, overclocking might make the i9 win, but overclocking your cpu all the time will shorten its lifespan
It's not objective when you start off with lying about 500w. I believe 7800X3D has more value then 13/14900k, but from the perspective of wanting the most performance and overclocking capability 13/14900k/s has the crown still. I'm seeing people getting 8600mt/s on DDR5 with 14900KS. You have to also remember going with 7800X3D has it's caveats when it comes to OS and productivity performance and also can run hot and be sensitive to heat despite the much lower TDP. I think for most casual gamers out there that have no interest in tuning 7800X3D is for you.
@@battlephenom8508 it depends on what games, i personally play games like fortnite and games like warzone are gonna see better results if not the exact results which 7800x3d really wins because of lower power draw and temps and the fact the motherboard supports AM5+ chips that are coming out this year where the next intel generation will require upgrading the MOBO once again
@@BuffShamans You mean the one where the 7800X3D won on some games, lost in others, and where the 1% lows are not consistent with other people/channels benchmarking and comparing these two, where the i9-14900KS usually gets lower 1% lows than the 7800X3D? Oh, yeah, and that's before the obvious bit, which is that the 14900KS costs like twice the 7800X3D. Durr.
FPSs are not everything, check the power consumption the 7800X3D performance that well at half the tdp of the 14900KS
Power draw has nothing to do with gaming performance. If you’re so poor that high power draw is an issue you should just stick to console
@@gildfps This is the most ignorant take I ever heard, yet somehow, I was expecting a reply like this😂
Almost forgot, enjoy squeezing +210w at 50% load.
@@gildfps lmao imagine thinking someone is poor just because he wants to be economical omg cope dude
The 14900k is also twice the price ontop of that
@jameswilliam7992 hes prob a spoiled brat living off of mommys and daddies money and has never been told no
where did you get such fps at 13900k in mv3? I have both systems including 7800x3d and it beats 13900k in the combined one by 40-50 fps.
Terminal private match
@@ChamberTech ok, i check it
i had 14900k and went for 7800x3d. paired with 7900xtx its the best amd gaming build. i dropped 200watts consumption just from cpu.
And gained 300 from the gpu?
@@ChamberTech I'm not sure what u mean by this? The 4090 draws more power than the xtx
congratulations on tuning a 7800x3d into being worse than an i9, guy
Thanks for the Benchmarks. One of the rare tests where RAM is tuned to the max.
AMDip Copers are gonna have a heart attack over this one 🤣
Bro they had a heart attack before I even posted it 🤣
No not a heart attack but you need to spend TWICE the $$ (Minimum) to just catch up to AMD..
AMDip is a myth you moron
@@RealGamerReincarnate Broke boy lol
@@teej_youtube no I'm just smart with my money kiddo!..😉
no need to fight, both are more than enough for ppl's skill
You should add Cinebench 2024 to your testing. It's added testing for GPU's now and you can also test single core score which is another metric I think would add to your testing. It's also gonna show a bit more fair of a comparison especially when comparing a 8 core CPU to a 24 core one... Nice video keep it up!
The only downside to intel is power draw
@EatFruitPlantSeeds if you overclock the 14900ks to its max it can draw up to 400 watts on certain applications. I'm not sure where you get 90-120 for the i9 stock it's nowhere near that while gaming or running cinebench or other apps
For sure.
@EatFruitPlantSeeds yes CS2 can run on a potato 😂 and it doesn't use much power. pacman doesn't eather 😂you could've at least tried warzone. Anyway I obviously tune my pc different to you and use different apps to properly test for stability if your happy with running apps or games that pull a couple of hundred watts and you think your pc is stable I'm happy for you enjoy your pc and I'll enjoy mine.
@EatFruitPlantSeeds the reason I brought up stability is because you brought up "properly tuned" and I'll stick with my original comment "the only downside to intel is power draw " if you don't believe intel can use much more power then I don't care. I didn't mention anything to do with gaming when I said "the only downside to intel is power draw" I get your point that in some games the power difference isn't massive but you don't get my point if you use different apps like cinebench ycruncher vt3 the difference can be massive! I personally don't care about the electricity bill because I own the 13900kf.
Your boring me 😂 enjoy your pc and I'll enjoy mine
Were these ran with resize on or off?
Would disabling hyperthreading on a 10900k improve performance and fps in MW3? Thank you in advance, love your content.
possibly. I haven't touched a 10900k in awhile. I'd say test but it definitely can!
@@ChamberTech Nah just tested it and the CPU avg went down by 40fps and 1% lows went down by 30 fps in the in game benchmark.
@joshuaguzman9762 yeah not worth bro. In the old warzone it was better but I guess 10 cores isn’t enough
7800x3d is just best cpu for gaming ever
thank you. this is what ive been looking for and its so hard to find. if you do comparisons in the future i personally would be really dig if you did some insane spinning with 8000hz in a game and compare the fps from intel vs amd. I think amd drops a lot harder but Ive found nothing to prove it.
Lol, 14900k are dying like flies.....😅😅😅😅
Is the ram for the 7800x3d 64gb? You could squeeze more fps out of the amd because of dual rank
It’s single rank. It’s what performs best
It's good that you test them OC vs OC, but you need to show in game recorded run & telemetry on screen, bar graphs and trust me bro is outdated in 2024.
This is why I don't believe AMDumboxed and GN and others, because bar graphs can easily be manipulated and they all do it.
Take a note from Daniel Owen's channel how he does benchmarks and add you OC flavor on top of it and you got a good channel for growing.
I do like that approach. Once i have dual pc setup again I will do this! Thank you for your suggestion.
yo can 14700k hit 7800mhz ddr5 with apex? or need 14900k
Memory controller on both are about the same
Awesome vid,But one thing people really need to consider is that it’s just not that smart to spend so much money on a eol platform.Amd will be easy beat intel next year with the new chip,That will be a drop in upgrade.So hold up before you spend the kidney money on a dead platform.
1% lows are terrible on 7800x3d
Even with no CCLK overclock on the 7800X3D it performs AMAZING... people don't realize that when you are getting above 240fps and it's consistent who cares. You will be more worried about making a compact, low temp, low power build and that just isn't possible with Intel considering how hot and power hungry they run. With the world wide energy crisis too, power consumption will matter to more and more people. You are flexing useless numbers at this point. More needs to be tested when it comes to the reviews chamber, I love that you are one of the few who actually benchmark Intel cpus at their max but there is always more to it then just FPS, especially when the 7800X3D in this review isn't even using a CCLK overclock which can add upwards of 15% to average fps and 20% in the 0.1% lows. In this day and age with all the 240Hz 4K OLEDs coming you'll be gpu bound anyway, get into 7900XTX EVC3 vs 4090 1000W videos, that will be more interesting because outside of our small community of Intel fans people just don't care about X3D vs 14900KS (because of how inefficient intel is).
Probably gonna get a lot of hate for this comment but it's what it is, when people mature and start to realize the reality of this world you'll understand why what I say is so important. Its not that I'm having problems with high power on intel personally, its that even simply my co-workers and friends are worried because they are having trouble making a power bill simply because of how expensive it has become in this day and age. $30-60 less on bills a month means they can save for that fun trip they want to go on in a year or two. Or towards a car. or some big life purchase. The real world is a lot more fun than video games.
Overclocking/adjusting the CCLK isn't easy to achieve on X3D chips and it raises both the PL and heat output of the CPU. I was able to achieve 103mhz and this raised temperatures in Apex to 70c consistently, which is not something I'd like to do, I'd like to keep the temperature down if possible.
You also lose the ability to apply useful and meaningful CO's, you start approaching positive offsets, which again, increases temperature and it's not that serious.
Since when did you care about AMD anyway? Did shilling for Intel get boring?
@@Fragil1ty skill issue
Yeah what he said with the voltage mode 7900xtx
bro you look like connor mcdavid
No offence but tidy up your room before you switch on that camera next time Jesus
can u do a I5 13600K vs R7 7800X3D comparison and wich one u should buy
Always the 7800x3d bro
@@TheBDPodcast 14600K BETTER
@@julliahimself are you on crack??
talking bull amd taking over
I went AMD for my first ever build after that I will never go back to AMDip lol
got the I5 114600KF did not disapoint at all intel on top baby
People hating on AMD but forget that the 14900KS realest a few months ago while the 7800x3d launched january last year.
This is not even the strongest gaming CPU AMD can come up with. Take a moment to realize that the 7800x3d still holds up among the newest released CPU's even though it's half the price.
"B- But the Intel is better for all the tasks, streaming, rendering" Yeah, you buy it because of this reason and you're not even a streamer or create content in any form, you buy it to play story games while on discord.
The 7800x3d isn't even made to be overclocked, yet it still holds up with an overclockable 2024 CPU worth 600$
the 13900k released before it and beats it...
@@ChamberTech yeah, in multitasking, try gaming and 7800x3d overtakes in 90% of the games, overclocking might make the i9 win, but overclocking your cpu all the time will shorten its lifespan
id never go AMD.
i am looking forward to zen5 x3d. it might be the one to make me want to switch
amd fanboys crie kkkk
😂😂😒.
78x3D is objectively better than Intel's 500W i9s
did you watch the video big dog
It's not objective when you start off with lying about 500w. I believe 7800X3D has more value then 13/14900k, but from the perspective of wanting the most performance and overclocking capability 13/14900k/s has the crown still. I'm seeing people getting 8600mt/s on DDR5 with 14900KS. You have to also remember going with 7800X3D has it's caveats when it comes to OS and productivity performance and also can run hot and be sensitive to heat despite the much lower TDP. I think for most casual gamers out there that have no interest in tuning 7800X3D is for you.
@@battlephenom8508😮
@@battlephenom8508 it depends on what games, i personally play games like fortnite and games like warzone are gonna see better results if not the exact results
which 7800x3d really wins because of lower power draw and temps and the fact the motherboard supports AM5+ chips that are coming out this year where the next intel generation will require upgrading the MOBO once again
@@BuffShamans You mean the one where the 7800X3D won on some games, lost in others, and where the 1% lows are not consistent with other people/channels benchmarking and comparing these two, where the i9-14900KS usually gets lower 1% lows than the 7800X3D?
Oh, yeah, and that's before the obvious bit, which is that the 14900KS costs like twice the 7800X3D. Durr.