Here is the link to Randy Oliver’s study if you would like to check it out. scientificbeekeeping.com/refining-the-mite-wash-part-4-comparing-the-release-agents/
Great video! I am with Lagrange Bees on this. I started using Dawn soap this past year after hearing Randy Oliver talk about what they had found out about how much more effective it was at getting mites to drop. I find that after swirling let it set for a minute or so and the last of the mites drop to the bottom. It has been an eyeopener.
Thanks Bruce! Thanks to you guys, I used Dawn this week to check for mites within my hives. One hive rendered 1 mite, while the hive right next to it rendered 6. I decided to just treat all hives. Thanks for what you do. Love the videos! Be safe.
I've switched to Dawn Ultra as a mite release agent ever since i read about it in Randy Oliver's research and it has worked very well for me, (and haven't heard anyone complain about it). I'd recommend it, if anyone has doubt, look at Randy's research and decide if it's right for you 🙂
I think Greg is on to something about the bee being “loose” with the Dawn wash vs. all tightened up after the alcohol wash. Also, I think Dawn helps dislodge the mite due to its grease fighting abilities. I wouldn’t be surprised if those mites have little suction cups on their legs that has some sort of liquid that helps them stay adhered to the bee. How many times have you heard researchers that observe grooming behavior say that they see mites under microscopes with legs damaged or missing? Maybe that’s because those legs use a sticky substance to really stay attached and the bees just chew the leg off to dislodge the mite… Dawn is great at taking the sticky off of all kinds of different surfaces.
lol nice opener 🤠 the bees appear to be grumpy. I believe the Dawn also kills the mite slower so they let go of the bee better. Ty for sharing, Blessed Days...
Greg's explanation is great about keeping bees and mites soft and relaxed, since my wife has become bed ridden and have to do the dishes I've learned why Dawn works best, take a really greasy pot you've cooked southern style peas with a ham hock in set in the sink run it full oh warm water, watch the grease and lard float to the top, then drop one drop of Dawn in the middle, that's how fast Dawn cut the grease and waxy film off the bees and mites little sticky pad feet, that's why they can't hold on to the bees and shake off. That's the same reason O.A.works to treat hives, as the OA vapors cool and make tiny crystals that forms on the mites legs it shuts down their ability to keep fluid to the sticky little things I call feet, (I forget the technical name) mites have claws or cleats on their feet just little bloon looking pads that secrete the sticky substance, that's why the Purdue Ankle Biter bees are successful with the mites they bite off or burst these little sticky pads or feet as I call them, bees carry a greasy waxy type substance to protect their exoskeleton from moisture and water simular to why duck feathers don't get wet and bees won't drown in a swarm cluster when it rains, but will drownd in you frame feeder, as Mike pointed out in one his videos they breathe through about 12 ports which most are on their abdomen, bee falls in the sugar syrup crawls out other bees must quickly clean her off or she suffocates. OK I'm done rambling on. Hopefully I shared a little understanding of how things work with mites on bees. Enjoy the gifts bees bring to brighten your lives, that's why I think all beekeepers are a special breed of folks.
LOL I was rambling on so, here's another tip that Dawn make work better if you're spraying weeds and bugs to kill them away from bees (herbicides and insecticides), add 2 tablespoons of Dawn Ultra per gallon of liquid in your pump up sprayer you'll get much better results, say like on coffee weeds and the bramble biars and all the stuff that has waxy leafs, plus it's a sticking agent as well as holding down vapor drifting. You'll also find you can cut the amounts of chemical used by upto 1/3 or more, depending on what you're spraying and how stubborn pest vegetation or insects are.
I am not really sure. Not sure if the differences between different detergents. Here is a link to the study by Randy Oliver: scientificbeekeeping.com/refining-the-mite-wash-part-4-comparing-the-release-agents/
I wish when Greg was comparing the alcohol to the Dawn wash that he would have checked every mite under a microscope to see if there were mites left on the bees that had been washed with the alcohol and Dawn. Then if he found any he would have the rock hard proof that Dawn works better.
Randy has been using dawn for years now. I think by rolling the bees to fall into your cup is what's getting them all so pissed off Greg. I've seen examples of Randy Oliver up close just shake bees into a plastic tub, with no veil or suit on by the way, and scoop out a measured 1 cup that will equal about 300 bees without being stung. This testing is necessary but I think it is a example of how not to do a bee collection for a mite wash. Sorry had to mention this technique here Bruce. Thanks 🐝
The bees were extra spicy that day before we even tried to test them. It was hard to get enough. Doing anything with bees here in late July is difficult. Especially when we were trying other so what we were doing. I really just wanted to do a test for a demonstration. I understand your point though. I think with bees that were nicer or in a better mood it would have been fine. Since then I my genetics have on average become much more gentle but I still have some spicy ones. Thanks for checking in.
@@sonofthunder. yes it makes you feel funny when you say something that is very important and it's leaves dents from your forehead In The drywall because no one listens
It just takes time to get the message out. Greg has been preaching this for awhile. The more we keep sharing the more folks will hear and give it a try.
There was no explanation as to why dawn specifically instead of some other brand of dish soap. I don't see how the brand would have an effect, soap is soap
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Here is the link to Randy Oliver’s study if you would like to check it out.
scientificbeekeeping.com/refining-the-mite-wash-part-4-comparing-the-release-agents/
Great learning video. You did a great job putting this together Bruce!! Knowing what we did and how you put this together was masterful. Very thorough
Thanks Mike. Good times…
Great job guys getting this out to the community . Thanks Bruce, good health, God bless 👍
Great video. That was an interesting theory as to why the Dawn seems to pull more mites. Appreciate you sharing this.
Awesome crew! Those bees are HOT! Good luck with the new queens.
Great learning video for us new beekeeper!!! Keep up the great videos Bruce..✌🏻
Great video! Thanks!
Outstanding! Thanks for the video
Great video! I am with Lagrange Bees on this. I started using Dawn soap this past year after hearing Randy Oliver talk about what they had found out about how much more effective it was at getting mites to drop. I find that after swirling let it set for a minute or so and the last of the mites drop to the bottom. It has been an eyeopener.
Thanks for checking in.
Thanks Bruce! Thanks to you guys, I used Dawn this week to check for mites within my hives. One hive rendered 1 mite, while the hive right next to it rendered 6. I decided to just treat all hives. Thanks for what you do. Love the videos! Be safe.
Great. I hope you are able to eliminate the little critters.
It’s all I use. Good stuff
Oh, man those bees are mad !
Thanks for the vedio !
I've switched to Dawn Ultra as a mite release agent ever since i read about it in Randy Oliver's research and it has worked very well for me, (and haven't heard anyone complain about it). I'd recommend it, if anyone has doubt, look at Randy's research and decide if it's right for you 🙂
Good stuff Lagrange
Great video Bruce. Just tested a few of mine with dawn as well
I think Greg is on to something about the bee being “loose” with the Dawn wash vs. all tightened up after the alcohol wash. Also, I think Dawn helps dislodge the mite due to its grease fighting abilities. I wouldn’t be surprised if those mites have little suction cups on their legs that has some sort of liquid that helps them stay adhered to the bee. How many times have you heard researchers that observe grooming behavior say that they see mites under microscopes with legs damaged or missing? Maybe that’s because those legs use a sticky substance to really stay attached and the bees just chew the leg off to dislodge the mite… Dawn is great at taking the sticky off of all kinds of different surfaces.
Better results at a better price 👌 no brainer for me
i had dwv,and after way over threshold in fall,,did 5x 5days apart OA,Vaporization, they slowly recovered, and pulled thru winter
Bruce you should have included this video with the content about Greg putting on gloves. Lol. Those bees are rowdy. Lol
lol nice opener 🤠 the bees appear to be grumpy. I believe the Dawn also kills the mite slower so they let go of the bee better. Ty for sharing, Blessed Days...
Thanks guy’s now have a few beer’s!!
Greg's explanation is great about keeping bees and mites soft and relaxed, since my wife has become bed ridden and have to do the dishes I've learned why Dawn works best, take a really greasy pot you've cooked southern style peas with a ham hock in set in the sink run it full oh warm water, watch the grease and lard float to the top, then drop one drop of Dawn in the middle, that's how fast Dawn cut the grease and waxy film off the bees and mites little sticky pad feet, that's why they can't hold on to the bees and shake off. That's the same reason O.A.works to treat hives, as the OA vapors cool and make tiny crystals that forms on the mites legs it shuts down their ability to keep fluid to the sticky little things I call feet, (I forget the technical name) mites have claws or cleats on their feet just little bloon looking pads that secrete the sticky substance, that's why the Purdue Ankle Biter bees are successful with the mites they bite off or burst these little sticky pads or feet as I call them, bees carry a greasy waxy type substance to protect their exoskeleton from moisture and water simular to why duck feathers don't get wet and bees won't drown in a swarm cluster when it rains, but will drownd in you frame feeder, as Mike pointed out in one his videos they breathe through about 12 ports which most are on their abdomen, bee falls in the sugar syrup crawls out other bees must quickly clean her off or she suffocates. OK I'm done rambling on. Hopefully I shared a little understanding of how things work with mites on bees. Enjoy the gifts bees bring to brighten your lives, that's why I think all beekeepers are a special breed of folks.
Yes that is an interesting experiment. Thanks for checking in!
LOL I was rambling on so, here's another tip that Dawn make work better if you're spraying weeds and bugs to kill them away from bees (herbicides and insecticides), add 2 tablespoons of Dawn Ultra per gallon of liquid in your pump up sprayer you'll get much better results, say like on coffee weeds and the bramble biars and all the stuff that has waxy leafs, plus it's a sticking agent as well as holding down vapor drifting. You'll also find you can cut the amounts of chemical used by upto 1/3 or more, depending on what you're spraying and how stubborn pest vegetation or insects are.
In my opinion Greg is absolutely right, the mites release another better with the dawn vs alcohol. Not to mention is way cheaper.
A lot better I meant to say
I believe you are right…on both counts.
Just did a Dawn mite check in Michigan one hive zero other 10. Treated once in May with OA and 4 weeks ago with formic
Hmm. What is your plan now? Do you have honey supers on the hives?
@@brucesbees treated with double dose of oxylic
@@brucesbees plan to treat every week for awhile. Maybe another dose of Formic too. What do you think?
Worth a try.
does it have to be dawn or can you use any kind of dish soap?
I am not really sure. Not sure if the differences between different detergents. Here is a link to the study by Randy Oliver: scientificbeekeeping.com/refining-the-mite-wash-part-4-comparing-the-release-agents/
It works tried it yesterday.. always some dawn around too good tip
Sure does. I had some very high counts in some of my checks.
I wish when Greg was comparing the alcohol to the Dawn wash that he would have checked every mite under a microscope to see if there were mites left on the bees that had been washed with the alcohol and Dawn. Then if he found any he would have the rock hard proof that Dawn works better.
Did you know that the bee louse, (Braula coeca Nitzsch) is often misdiagnosed at a varroa mite? Makes you wonder what your actually counting
Well I am not sure about this but the varroa mites have a distinct look. Really don’t know much about this though.
one table spoon dawn ultra per half gallon,or 2 tablespoons per gallon
Randy has been using dawn for years now. I think by rolling the bees to fall into your cup is what's getting them all so pissed off Greg. I've seen examples of Randy Oliver up close just shake bees into a plastic tub, with no veil or suit on by the way, and scoop out a measured 1 cup that will equal about 300 bees without being stung. This testing is necessary but I think it is a example of how not to do a bee collection for a mite wash. Sorry had to mention this technique here Bruce. Thanks 🐝
The bees were extra spicy that day before we even tried to test them. It was hard to get enough. Doing anything with bees here in late July is difficult. Especially when we were trying other so what we were doing. I really just wanted to do a test for a demonstration. I understand your point though. I think with bees that were nicer or in a better mood it would have been fine. Since then I my genetics have on average become much more gentle but I still have some spicy ones. Thanks for checking in.
been telling about this for a year
How so where
@@bobb.6393 as per randy oliver, tests,and his you tube
@@sonofthunder. yes it makes you feel funny when you say something that is very important and it's leaves dents from your forehead In The drywall because no one listens
It just takes time to get the message out. Greg has been preaching this for awhile. The more we keep sharing the more folks will hear and give it a try.
There was no explanation as to why dawn specifically instead of some other brand of dish soap. I don't see how the brand would have an effect, soap is soap
Could be. That is what was used in the study by Randy Oliver.
Here is the study
scientificbeekeeping.com/refining-the-mite-wash-part-4-comparing-the-release-agents/
Yes, yeah, yeppers
don't need to say more
Great learning video for us new beekeeper!!! Keep up the great videos Bruce..✌🏻
Thanks Mark!