Awesome video, Sandy. I had picked up the base model along with a few other accessories during the package deal they had at the end of last year. I think the only thing that you should work on is asking Woodland Mills to send you a more comfortable stool!🤣
Great review Sandy! When I sharpen my woodland mills blades with the RS8 model, it takes approximately 20 minutes a blade. The RS30 looks like it would cut that time in half.
Thanks for sharing, Sandy. The new sharpener is awesome. Appreciate your letting us see your experience and expertise. Stay safe, healthy, strong and successful. ☝🙏🙌💪
Great video, I purchased a CBN wheel a year ago and swapped out the drive motor and installed a speed controller,. Now about 5 minutes to sharpen blades
For all that you have promoted Woodland Mills, it's great that they have given you something to review in return! On a different note, those CBN wheels have also caught my attention, in that there's no fine tuning needed and they supposedly last a very long time, making them appear to be a really good value!
Hi buddy how are ya? Sorry I’ve been quiet a while! Been busy sawing! And working around the house. So much to do!!! I bought the rs30 about a year ago, but I haven’t used it yet. I bought a bunch of blades on sale so I’ve been using them. I hope to start using the sharpener. I bought a 12v 30amp power supply to run it while I’m in the shop, and run on the battery when I have to. Thank you for running a side by side comparison, I believe you are the first to do it. As always buddy GOD bless you and you family. I’ve been watching you channel now for 7 years I think hehehe you are our saw mill guru!
Hey I'm doing great thanks! I hear ya there. Tonnes to do at times it seems but never enough time in the day to do it. You'll really like the RS30 PRO sharpener.
great review. When I got my WOodmizer many years ago, they gave me a morning briefing on sharpening and milling. It took me a while to figure out the sharpenning and get better at it. Initially I would sharpened the tooth on both side, missing the gullet. It did not take long that my tooth height got very low and, I believe the gullet was not deep enough to carry the sawdust. I also got better at lightely grinding the gullet, removing the microcracks. That allowed me to sharpen my blades up to 10 times (my record was 13 sharpenings on a few blades) before they would break. I would used 4 blades a day on an 8-hour day, changing them every 2 hours as recommended by WM, unless I hit a nail or rock. I would sharpen in the evening and could sharpen and set my 4 blades in 1 hour. The WM sharpener had a magnet that I would put on the blade and once it went around and back it would go by a sensor shutting down the saharpener. While one blade was sharpening I could set another one. Cheers
@@sawingwithsandy I do not have my mill anymore but yes, I would set after every sharpening and have to admit that I never had any problems with blades,aside from the odd break. Once, a brand new blade broke at the weld on first use. I contacted WM to inquire as to what could have happened. To my surprise, the following week I received a box of 10 blades, free of charge. I was using only WM blades. That was 30 years ago but still have great memories of it all.
MM77 Approved 👍🏼👍🏼……………………………………………………………Thanks Sandy, I’m glad that you are showing there’s more to owning a sawmill than cutting a tree and cutting it into lumber. There is a lot of behind the scenes things that need to be done to keep the mill running!
Nice review Sandy. You will still have to clean the cubic boron nitride wheel occasionally (you will learn when with time and expirence) Thecbn wheel will load up with swarf over time and cause excess heat on your teeth drawing the temper and thus they will be softer and full quickly when sawing lumber. Woodlands probably provided you with a dressing stick. Wishing you all the very best as always.
Howdy Sandy Wow what a difference in speed… And the new type of grinding wheel saves time as well.. So I did read a lot of people asking if there was a converter for 22 volt.. Suggestion… if you have a portable power station I do believe they have a 12 volt plug… Even if it was a cigarette plug just put an end on your power supply a run it that way..Power it with solar panels… Just my 2cents .. Thanks for sharing… I really wish I had a mill 😢 Cheers my friend
Good comparison Sandy. I've been waiting for them to come out with one that will sharpen 4 degree blades as we use almost exclusively 10 and 4 degree blades...hopefully someday, hint hint Woodland Mills if you are watching! 😁
I wonder if you could angle the sharpener head just a bit more than the existing 7 degree slot on the back. Guess the trouble would be ensuring the angle is exactly 4 degrees
Good afternoon Sandy! Not long after I got the rs8, they came out with the rs30. I felt a little buyers remorse because I do my research to get the best equipment that my pocket can afford. After watching this, yes the rs30 has a couple more bells and whistles, but I believe the end result is the same. I'm a domestic engineer( that's a fancy title for a woman in her mid forties that stays home😁) and have plenty of time to watch the slowest NASCAR race in history! Wonder if the CBN wheel is compatible with the rs8🤔 Thanks for the demo, very helpful! 👍👋
Hey there Jill! I know what ya mean there. I try to be absolutely certain when getting a piece of equipment that it's the best possible setup for me as well. I'm pretty certain the CBN wheel can be put on the rs8 model which is great as I think it's far superior to the other wheel from what I could tell . I"ll be sure to update everyone long term on the wheel differences and whether I still like the CBN wheel after using it for a long time. Hope you have a great weekend!
Good afternoon, Sandy! The speed of the newer model is for every one grind of the older model. The newer model does five. Impressive! You won't be cleaning the shop as much, lol! Greetings from Peterborough.
Good evening Sandy that new sharpener is a lot faster yes no more cleaning shope while sharpening lol you will not keep up pace doing the tooth setting you have a pile of blade that are sharp waiting on you you to set them lol that was a great way to compare them now ready to do more milling keep the saw dust going have a great day
Yeah if I get a big pile of blades going that need tooth setting that would be the slow down for sure. I'm fortunate that I don't often find that I need to set the teeth unless I hit something solid in a log.
Is there an attachment like a wire wheel that would clean the blade from the sap buildup which seems to bind or slow up its entrance to the sharpening wheel? Your videos seem to make my sludge always taste better. 😀
You didn't talk about the auto stop? Do you recommend cleaning the blade before sharpening ,I just finish setting up my new pro and enjoy your tips, thanks!
Hi Wayne! I’m pretty new to the new sharpener so I haven’t noticed any cleaning that’s needed for the blade yet. The auto stop is handy but I don’t use it often as I typically just mark the blade with a marker and stop it once it gets back to it
@@sawingwithsandy I just did my first three blades and worked with auto stop and needed to form it a bit to get the correct contact with the toggle switches, it works great, set it and forget it!
Working with sharp tools cause less accidents. Dull knives in a kitchen make food preparations handled much better with sharp knives, same with saw mill blades. It's a lot of work that pays off well.
Very interesting that’s a nice new machine they have eh. I have a local guy do mine, he has a woodmizer automatic setup, seems to do a great job. How are you making out with the ripper 37’s ? I got some they are great but boy if you hit metal it rips the teeth off and there goes the blade. They do cut well though. How do you like sharpening them? Take care great job Sandy.
@@sawingwithsandy I have 2 chainsaw sharpeners on my set up. I sharpen with a CBN wheel and use the normal wheel on the 2nd on profiled for setting the rakers.
Good on you for having a bit of time to clean up the shop a bit. So hard to get to when the weather is fit for work, right? P.S. As for the sharpener, it a be on my wish list for "someday." Thanks
Hello Mr. Sandy, both sharpeners are good, both do the job well, just depends the justification of throwing a few hundred bucks more ion the ledger under operational expense, to me slow is good, I get a few more sips of SLUDGE before it gets done.
Do either of these sharpeners offer a regular A/C power unit? I suspect many sawyers aren't taking their blade sharpeners out in the field beside their sawmills.
I haven’t seen a a/c power unit for these but I often hook up a battery charger to the battery while running it so I don’t have to ever recharge the battery
Sandy, will that auto-stop clamp work on the fast model? If so, you can still set it and forget it, come back i 15 minutes, change to the next blade, set it and forget it for 15 minutes. Working in the shop is a good time for sharpening. When the machine auto-stops, you can work on other things and not have to keep one eye on the sharpener. What's Woodland Mills going to say when you "Accidentally" send your old one back and keep the new one?! Listening to them, it sounded like the new machine sharpens four times faster than your old one. Is there a power converter available, AC to DC, so you can plug it into the wall instead of use a 12 volt battery?
Hey Carl. Yeah that clamp that came with the RS8 model also comes with the RS30 Pro model to stop the sharpener without having to sit there and watch it. I don't know how much faster it is but I bet it's at least 4x faster for sure. There's no power converter sold with it that I'm aware of so I often use my battery charger
Will my RS8 model grinder sharpen the ripper 37 blades without needing any extra parts? Such as a different profile cam or a profile plate to change the profile of the grinding wheel?..
Good question. They do offer a Ripper 37 specific profile cam for the RS8 model that I got after buying my RS8 to ensure it follows the blade profile for the Ripper 37 right down through the gullet nicely. You could use the stock cam however on the Ripper 37 but it may or may not be able to perfectly match the stock Ripper 37 blade profile
Sandy, I may have or not, memories of what I have informed you about is vage... old age or just a lazy brain box. Anyhow, John and Meg are a couple in Virginia who are raising a daughter, and building their future home. He has been improving on a woodland mill that would truly impress anyone who understands milling. I do know if you two channels get together that most likely you would enjoy contents alike. I told him about your channel and to look for a playlist on the Weinstein winch system. His property is very uneven ground with steep banks. They love nature and preserve trees, hard for them to take any tree down. I do know if you two were to have a chance to enjoy a cup of Joe, your friendship would likely bond for a good many years as your both young in my eyes. I am at the age where everyone is younger and in no possible way guess how old someone else is and that is standing in the same room as myself. I know I word sentences that make little sense and hard to read, I just try my best and hope for the same... take care Sandy, this process of making a better blade sharpener has been a long long time coming. I used a blade sharpener in my cedar shake and shingle mills. I am giving you the short version of how I accomplished this kind of work, my comments always run too long.
I have been watching Walnuts & Wineberries from the beginning, attracted by their antics and “find an inexpensive way.” Excellent video, and impressed by their creative solutions to difficult problems.
Awesome video, Sandy. I had picked up the base model along with a few other accessories during the package deal they had at the end of last year.
I think the only thing that you should work on is asking Woodland Mills to send you a more comfortable stool!🤣
Great review Sandy! When I sharpen my woodland mills blades with the RS8 model, it takes approximately 20 minutes a blade. The RS30 looks like it would cut that time in half.
I sure was shocked when I saw the speed for the first time of the RS30. It rips around there!
Thanks for sharing, Sandy. The new sharpener is awesome. Appreciate your letting us see your experience and expertise. Stay safe, healthy, strong and successful. ☝🙏🙌💪
Great video, I purchased a CBN wheel a year ago and swapped out the drive motor and installed a speed controller,. Now about 5 minutes to sharpen blades
Sounds like a great setup you’ve got now Jerry. Was it the RS8 model you did the modifications to?
@@sawingwithsandy yes it took me about one hour to do the swap and runs great now for over a year
@@jerrydeveau4738 Hi Jerry, im wanting to do this same thing! I have a speed controller, do I need to switch out the motor??
For all that you have promoted Woodland Mills, it's great that they have given you something to review in return! On a different note, those CBN wheels have also caught my attention, in that there's no fine tuning needed and they supposedly last a very long time, making them appear to be a really good value!
Thanks Tim! I do like the CBN wheels and how easy they are to use
Hi buddy how are ya? Sorry I’ve been quiet a while! Been busy sawing! And working around the house. So much to do!!!
I bought the rs30 about a year ago, but I haven’t used it yet. I bought a bunch of blades on sale so I’ve been using them. I hope to start using the sharpener.
I bought a 12v 30amp power supply to run it while I’m in the shop, and run on the battery when I have to.
Thank you for running a side by side comparison, I believe you are the first to do it. As always buddy GOD bless you and you family.
I’ve been watching you channel now for 7 years I think hehehe you are our saw mill guru!
Hey I'm doing great thanks! I hear ya there. Tonnes to do at times it seems but never enough time in the day to do it. You'll really like the RS30 PRO sharpener.
Awesome job brother !!!!! Thanks for sharing 😊🙏👍❤️
Thanks for your support David
great review. When I got my WOodmizer many years ago, they gave me a morning briefing on sharpening and milling. It took me a while to figure out the sharpenning and get better at it. Initially I would sharpened the tooth on both side, missing the gullet. It did not take long that my tooth height got very low and, I believe the gullet was not deep enough to carry the sawdust. I also got better at lightely grinding the gullet, removing the microcracks. That allowed me to sharpen my blades up to 10 times (my record was 13 sharpenings on a few blades) before they would break. I would used 4 blades a day on an 8-hour day, changing them every 2 hours as recommended by WM, unless I hit a nail or rock. I would sharpen in the evening and could sharpen and set my 4 blades in 1 hour. The WM sharpener had a magnet that I would put on the blade and once it went around and back it would go by a sensor shutting down the saharpener. While one blade was sharpening I could set another one. Cheers
Hey Yves! Great idea with the setting and sharpening at the same time. Do you set every blade before you sharpen?
@@sawingwithsandy I do not have my mill anymore but yes, I would set after every sharpening and have to admit that I never had any problems with blades,aside from the odd break. Once, a brand new blade broke at the weld on first use. I contacted WM to inquire as to what could have happened. To my surprise, the following week I received a box of 10 blades, free of charge. I was using only WM blades. That was 30 years ago but still have great memories of it all.
Thanks for that Yves. Great to hear from others like yourself. Helps me learn new things as well. Have a great weekend!
MM77 Approved 👍🏼👍🏼……………………………………………………………Thanks Sandy, I’m glad that you are showing there’s more to owning a sawmill than cutting a tree and cutting it into lumber. There is a lot of behind the scenes things that need to be done to keep the mill running!
Nice review Sandy. You will still have to clean the cubic boron nitride wheel occasionally (you will learn when with time and expirence) Thecbn wheel will load up with swarf over time and cause excess heat on your teeth drawing the temper and thus they will be softer and full quickly when sawing lumber. Woodlands probably provided you with a dressing stick. Wishing you all the very best as always.
Sandy, your new RS-30 Pro is crazy fast, i know you are going to love it.
Howdy Sandy
Wow what a difference in speed… And the new type of grinding wheel saves time as well..
So I did read a lot of people asking if there was a converter for 22 volt.. Suggestion… if you have a portable power station I do believe they have a 12 volt plug… Even if it was a cigarette plug just put an end on your power supply a run it that way..Power it with solar panels…
Just my 2cents ..
Thanks for sharing…
I really wish I had a mill 😢
Cheers my friend
Hey Gus! Thanks for sharing that!
Good comparison Sandy. I've been waiting for them to come out with one that will sharpen 4 degree blades as we use almost exclusively 10 and 4 degree blades...hopefully someday, hint hint Woodland Mills if you are watching! 😁
I wonder if you could angle the sharpener head just a bit more than the existing 7 degree slot on the back. Guess the trouble would be ensuring the angle is exactly 4 degrees
I've got the Tried true sharpener from Woodland, but I do like what that other one offers. It looks pretty cool.Thanks sandy for the show and tell
Glad you came along for the video. Thanks for all your support
4 times faster and a wheel that doesn’t need profiling. Might be worth the upgrade. Thanks for sharing!
I think it’s worth it after all the little details and speed are factored in
The grinding wheel will fit the old grinder.
thanks Lloyd
Good afternoon Sandy! Not long after I got the rs8, they came out with the rs30. I felt a little buyers remorse because I do my research to get the best equipment that my pocket can afford. After watching this, yes the rs30 has a couple more bells and whistles, but I believe the end result is the same. I'm a domestic engineer( that's a fancy title for a woman in her mid forties that stays home😁) and have plenty of time to watch the slowest NASCAR race in history! Wonder if the CBN wheel is compatible with the rs8🤔 Thanks for the demo, very helpful! 👍👋
Hey there Jill! I know what ya mean there. I try to be absolutely certain when getting a piece of equipment that it's the best possible setup for me as well. I'm pretty certain the CBN wheel can be put on the rs8 model which is great as I think it's far superior to the other wheel from what I could tell . I"ll be sure to update everyone long term on the wheel differences and whether I still like the CBN wheel after using it for a long time. Hope you have a great weekend!
Good afternoon, Sandy! The speed of the newer model is for every one grind of the older model. The newer model does five. Impressive! You won't be cleaning the shop as much, lol! Greetings from Peterborough.
Hey Ken! Sure is fast eh! Have a great weekend
Great video comparison Sandy, I enjoyed that! Thanks Sir! ✌🏼❤️🙏🏼
Thanks for that! Great to have ya along for the video
Good evening Sandy that new sharpener is a lot faster yes no more cleaning shope while sharpening lol you will not keep up pace doing the tooth setting you have a pile of blade that are sharp waiting on you you to set them lol that was a great way to compare them now ready to do more milling keep the saw dust going have a great day
Yeah if I get a big pile of blades going that need tooth setting that would be the slow down for sure. I'm fortunate that I don't often find that I need to set the teeth unless I hit something solid in a log.
Wow, I was counting 4 to 1 teeth on the new version. That is significant. That's a game changer.
Absolutely!
Wow,that sharpener is quick
Howdy Sandy- glad Woodland Mills asked you to do a review of Tyne with sharpener. That’s a real go getter for sure. Take care and God bless
Great to hear from you! I was happy to get the new sharpener to compare with my old one.
I do have the new one too. Sandy it’s fast I like PAPPIE
Cool stuff. Good vid. Thanks.
Thanks for that Joe!
Is there an attachment like a wire wheel that would clean the blade from the sap buildup which seems to bind or slow up its entrance to the sharpening wheel? Your videos seem to make my sludge always taste better. 😀
Hey there Roald. I think a wire wheel on a grinder would clean it up nice
👍great video Sandy
Thanks Paul
Wow that is fast, running both of them at the same time, you would go through the sludge!!
My doctor probably will be getting upset at me if I told them how much sludge I drink lol
You didn't talk about the auto stop? Do you recommend cleaning the blade before sharpening ,I just finish setting up my new pro and enjoy your tips, thanks!
Hi Wayne! I’m pretty new to the new sharpener so I haven’t noticed any cleaning that’s needed for the blade yet. The auto stop is handy but I don’t use it often as I typically just mark the blade with a marker and stop it once it gets back to it
@@sawingwithsandy I just did my first three blades and worked with auto stop and needed to form it a bit to get the correct contact with the toggle switches, it works great, set it and forget it!
Working with sharp tools cause less accidents. Dull knives in a kitchen make food preparations handled much better with sharp knives, same with saw mill blades. It's a lot of work that pays off well.
Absolutely. Great point there.
Very interesting that’s a nice new machine they have eh. I have a local guy do mine, he has a woodmizer automatic setup, seems to do a great job. How are you making out with the ripper 37’s ? I got some they are great but boy if you hit metal it rips the teeth off and there goes the blade. They do cut well though. How do you like sharpening them?
Take care great job Sandy.
That pro is quick
Sure gets the blade sharpened in a hurry
I use a CBN wheel on my chainsaw sharpener. It’s great. I need to get one for my RS8.
Now you got me thinking about my own chainsaw sharpener! Thanks for the idea Chad
@@sawingwithsandy I have 2 chainsaw sharpeners on my set up. I sharpen with a CBN wheel and use the normal wheel on the 2nd on profiled for setting the rakers.
I’ve watched both your videos on sawing long logs on a short sawmill bed. Which one do you prefer and which one is the most accurate?
I prefer the RS30 pro after running both sharpeners
Good on you for having a bit of time to clean up the shop a bit. So hard to get to when the weather is fit for work, right? P.S. As for the sharpener, it a be on my wish list for "someday." Thanks
Absolutely. My shop turns into covered storage more than anything when the weather is nice out.
Hello Mr. Sandy, both sharpeners are good, both do the job well, just depends the justification of throwing a few hundred bucks more ion the ledger under operational expense, to me slow is good, I get a few more sips of SLUDGE before it gets done.
Hey Ben! Great to hear from you. I agree with ya there. Nothing wrong with either. I sure don't mind an extra few minutes for more sludge haha
Do either of these sharpeners offer a regular A/C power unit? I suspect many sawyers aren't taking their blade sharpeners out in the field beside their sawmills.
I haven’t seen a a/c power unit for these but I often hook up a battery charger to the battery while running it so I don’t have to ever recharge the battery
About 4 on the new one to 1 on the old.Time saver.
Hi John! Sure whips around
Sandy, will that auto-stop clamp work on the fast model? If so, you can still set it and forget it, come back i 15 minutes, change to the next blade, set it and forget it for 15 minutes. Working in the shop is a good time for sharpening. When the machine auto-stops, you can work on other things and not have to keep one eye on the sharpener. What's Woodland Mills going to say when you "Accidentally" send your old one back and keep the new one?! Listening to them, it sounded like the new machine sharpens four times faster than your old one. Is there a power converter available, AC to DC, so you can plug it into the wall instead of use a 12 volt battery?
Hey Carl. Yeah that clamp that came with the RS8 model also comes with the RS30 Pro model to stop the sharpener without having to sit there and watch it. I don't know how much faster it is but I bet it's at least 4x faster for sure. There's no power converter sold with it that I'm aware of so I often use my battery charger
Will my RS8 model grinder sharpen the ripper 37 blades without needing any extra parts? Such as a different profile cam or a profile plate to change the profile of the grinding wheel?..
Good question. They do offer a Ripper 37 specific profile cam for the RS8 model that I got after buying my RS8 to ensure it follows the blade profile for the Ripper 37 right down through the gullet nicely. You could use the stock cam however on the Ripper 37 but it may or may not be able to perfectly match the stock Ripper 37 blade profile
You’re always adjusting the old one ?
I do have to adjust the old one to match the blades. Some times I don't have to but many times I do
How his the new bandsaw sharpener doing and why don't you do the back of the tooth
Sandy, I may have or not, memories of what I have informed you about is vage... old age or just a lazy brain box. Anyhow, John and Meg are a couple in Virginia who are raising a daughter, and building their future home. He has been improving on a woodland mill that would truly impress anyone who understands milling. I do know if you two channels get together that most likely you would enjoy contents alike. I told him about your channel and to look for a playlist on the Weinstein winch system. His property is very uneven ground with steep banks. They love nature and preserve trees, hard for them to take any tree down. I do know if you two were to have a chance to enjoy a cup of Joe, your friendship would likely bond for a good many years as your both young in my eyes. I am at the age where everyone is younger and in no possible way guess how old someone else is and that is standing in the same room as myself. I know I word sentences that make little sense and hard to read, I just try my best and hope for the same... take care Sandy, this process of making a better blade sharpener has been a long long time coming. I used a blade sharpener in my cedar shake and shingle mills. I am giving you the short version of how I accomplished this kind of work, my comments always run too long.
Hey Morgan! Great to hear from you and thanks for sharing that . The cedar shingle making sounds interesting
I have been watching Walnuts & Wineberries from the beginning, attracted by their antics and “find an inexpensive way.” Excellent video, and impressed by their creative solutions to difficult problems.
New one's obviously far quicker, which may or may not matter. How fast do you need a blade sharpened?
In my case faster the better
I bought the CBN wheel when I bought the cheaper unit.
That would be a great upgrade
As fast as the new sharpener is you will only have time for a half cup of sludge between blades now.
That may be reason enough for me to slow things down lol
I would suppose that it is up to the individual, wouldn't it? What might work for one person might not work for someone else.
Thanks for watching the video. Hope you liked it.
Apakah bisa kirim mata gergajinya ke Indonesia
another new toy to play with lol
This one sure will be getting some miles on it. May become one of the most used pieces of equipment
Twin Peaks lives
Hey Dave
that is 4 to 1 Now you don't have time to have your sludge in between blades
I’m going to be on my toes now