Have you done anything on Power Station yet? I think they are one of the most underrated supergroups of all time - and the fact they only did one album makes it all the more interesting to me.
Let’s not get ahead of ourselves. It was marketed as a joint collaboration by both and Metallica promoted in that fashion. The album itself has both names.
Every band needs to try to experiment so that they grow as a musician bands need to have some sonic failiures. Every band has at least 1 godawful song (unless the band is korn then every song sucks)
At least they did something different this time around. Unlike in 1991, or like the chris cornell went full bubblegum pop. Aughhhhh lulu is probably good compared to scream.
LuLu is a tough listen, one that requires a lot of patience. But if I had the opportunity to work with a legend like Lou Reed, damn straight I would take it, no matter what happens.
I AM THE *_T A B L E_* Side note: I cannot listen to this album, but I respect the hell out of Metallica regardless. I don't call it trash just because it's not for me. I didn't really care for Load and Death Magnetic either, but it'd be a cold day in hell before I'd EVER call them bad albums. Because they weren't. They were just different and not everyone is going to like that. People always say Metallica "sold out," but they've been saying that shit since Cliff was still in the band (technically they've been called sellouts since they first signed on a record label). The fact that Metallica has literally ONLY ever done what _they_ wanted to do, is why they have NEVER actually sold out. And for that, I will always respect them.
James regrets load and reload. He said in an interview Kirk and Lars pushed them in that direction. He also said cliff would never have allowed them to go that direction
@@flagsabbath6483 I thought he was taking about all the image, though, not musically? Music wise, Hetfield was always main motor of Metallica, so it's hard to imagine that it wasn't his idea. Especially when some songs, like Mama Said are pretty personal for him.
“Junior Dad” is an awesome song. Just like St Anger, there are some killer riffs buried in this one too. It’s not a daily listen, but it still has merit.
I remember going through the Lulu reviews on iTunes just after its release. To say they were rough was an understatement. They were brutal, but also funny and creative. And there were sooooo many of them. Apple had to clean the reviews off a couple of times and start again. 😂
I think that if the artists were billed as “Lou Reed And The Guys From Metallica,” it would’ve been more accurate. It’s literally the four members of Metallica playing, but I wouldn’t really say that it was Metallica itself playing.
Fantastic album! If only more established bands had the guts to go out on a limb like Metallica did with Lou Reed. A different experience with each listen. An album born of free form experimentation.
The only Metallica album missing from my Met collection, I almost forgot al about it. I know many Met fans consider it “ The Thing that Should Not Be.” Now I’ve finally heard something from it , & despite my misgivings on it, I figure it’s an interesting train wreck that completes the overall picture of the Mighty Met & the late Rock poet, Lou Reed. I think it’s a worthy inclusion in my collection.
I'm a huge Metallica fan and very open minded about music (I really enjoy Load & Reload) but I can't stand Lulu. Still I'm glad that Metallica is willing to experiment as musicians.
I've listened to Lulu at least a couple of time a year for the past five years, As I get older (62 now) it becomes more relevant!!! Currently listening first time this year and I am impressed by the strength of Lou Reed's singing, possibly his best vocal performance, even the wobbly bits. I read an article about David Bowie who rated Lulu very highly and he said to Laurie Anderson after Lou Reed's death, "Listen, this is Lou’s greatest work. This is his masterpiece. Just wait, it will be like Berlin. It will take everyone a while to catch up." It took me a couple of listenings to "catch up" and he's right you know it is a masterpiece and Metallica do a great job.
I think it showed an incredible integrity to make that album. I think I’m gonna revisit that album, or visit it, since I haven’t been super interested in what Metallica has done since Load.
Daniel Treadwell Yeah, I had the same feeling when I listened to it. It’s not a Metallica-album and shouldn’t be listened to as one. But my respect for the album and what it represents grew a ton.
LuLu is a fantastic album, I didn’t like it at first but after I had a good conversation with a friend I gave it another chance and started to really get into it. Then I did some looking into the source material and that really helped understand the story better. Thanks guys.
You should do a video on a better album Lou did: The Velvet Underground and Nico (an album that is just as groundbreaking and significant as Sgt Pepper is)
Metallica / Lou Reed...Lulu...I don't care what most critics say....This is a Magnificent Masterpiece of an album ....Junior dad, I have not the words to describe how beautiful and sad this song is.......
Glad you liked it. I think it’s complete trash and seems to be the consensus. Calling it a “magnificent masterpiece” is maybe you trying to overcompensate for other people’s opinions, like mine. If this is album is that great to you, please stay away from music.
The music on Lulu was really fucking great and often gets overlooked. Lou's lyrics and vocals is mostly where people get lost. I'll admit, nearly a decade later and I still don't get it but I can still respect what they did because it's a bold record and unlike pretty much anything else before or since. R.I.P. Lou Reed. He was a fucking legend that will probably never get his due in the way that he deserves and that will honor his contributions to music.
Metallica's music has never really been my style, but I respect their drive to constantly be trying something different and not just slipping into attempting to recapture the sound that made them famous, as so many older rock bands do. Never really listened to Lulu, but I love Lou Reed and generally enjoy projects that come from bands working outside their comfort zone, so maybe I'll give it a shot.
I had no idea that this was considered a legitimate Metallica album as I had thought it was a Lou Reed solo album that Metallica members just happened to collaborate on? I bring this up because near the time it was released that's how Lou Reed was treating it in magazine articles. Not Metallica's Lulu with special guest appearance of Lou Reed, but more Lou Reed and the Metallicas play Lulu.
I’m only really into “Iced Honey”, so far, but I already agree with Bowie. I’m trying to learn a bit of German, so I’m prompted to pursue the literature behind the concept
Lulu is not a Metallica's official record, like said so many times by so many people, but a collaboration, a musical experiment with Lou Reed. And the sooner the rest of the people realize it, the sooner they'll understand it and why it is as it is. You cannot compare & have the same expectations with Lulu like with Lightning, Justice, Hardwired or any other official album. Lulu is an "off side" project and it has to be treated as such. No "ordinary" songs, just a sonic experiment with a great RnR artist... P.S.: But they are some great riffs inside...
Totally agree with your comments too many people are tunnel visioned when it comes music one thing I did not put in my rant was lou was in his 70s and not in the greatest health when he recorded lulu, I would like to see metallica play metal milita in their 70s I bet lars could not play that song at the right tempo today!
I get the attitude, that's what people were acting like when it had just come out. Going from what I've read from most people, they seem to realise that but still dislike it. I don't hate it, but I don't really listen to it either. Then again, I liked Load and Reload..
I haven't heard the whole album, but after randomly listening to some of the tracks... I can definitely say it's underrated. Very underrated. It's also very misunderstood, but it's far from a bad album--Metallica does not release bad albums. Even St Anger was still a good listen. It's a Lou Reed Album if anything.
Nice video and as primarily a Lou Reed fan who was turned off by Metallica the same way Metallica fans didn't get Lou I have to say my heart has softened to the album and I've always thought Lou Reed was the greatest but I have a new respect for Metallica... seriously respect them for this collaboration
I only listened to the entire album once, all the way through. When I was driving through a snowstorm in Wyoming. It was the only setting to properly enjoy the record. I hope Lou Reed puts more stuff out soon ;)
Lulu is a great album. Its a spoken word lou reed recording with Metallica putting music to it and it one of my favorite fucking things to listen to at times. I dig it . I wish i owned it in physical form.
As a HUGE fan of Lou, and a appreciator of Metallica, I can say that David Bowie is right about “Lulu”. I was confused when it first came out. But in 2019 it hit me like a ton of bricks, it is a masterpiece, and like Lou’s album “Berlin” will likely take decades to garner the respect and admiration it deserves. Props to Metallica for making such stellar art, with their commercial success this undertaking took some big balls!
I'm a huge metallica fan, reason why I picked up a guitar. Do like some ol lou reed too. But I wonder if this album will ever "hit" me. Highly doubt it to be honest but can't blame em for giving something the ol college try
Bowie is right. Going back to this, it's intense, harrowing, and chaotic in the exact way that suits the story that's told on it. Lou's vocals are raw and schizophrenic, and Metallica is backing it with some of the heaviest instrumentals they've ever done. Oh, and "I am the table"? The song "The View"? It's about someone being compelled to kill themselves. James's lines are describing how this voice, or whatever is compelling the central character, embodies everything around them. I am the table = the table they stand on literally, I am the view = the literal view from their apartment, I am the ten stories = where their apartment is. It's actually really intense, dark, and I find it very affecting going back. The whole album is like that. Maybe some stuff doesn't land and comes across as hokey, but idk, I think it's going to age well.
Metallica have always been criticized for what they do, no matter what. They got called sell outs after writing fade to black. They really got called sell out after releasing the black album! Then REALLY called sell out for the load/reload era. Then when death magnetic got released, it was 'Metallica by numbers '. If Metallica, or any band for that matter, just kept releasing their 'best ' album year after year, they'd still get slated! Loulou wasn't a Metallica album, it was a collaboration record, Metallica just happened to be the backing band.
They were sell outs or writing Fade To Black, and then for joining a major label with Master of Puppets, and then for making a music video with One, and then for releasing the Black album, and then for releasing Load/Load. Literally every album after Kill Em' All had people calling them sell outs lol.
Rock and Roll Animal. That's a lightening in a bottle live recording. Dick Wagner and Steve Hunter guitars are absolutely phenomenal. Prakash John bass, loud and clear. Lou also at his best.
Yeah! They weren’t a bunch of dried up rock stars rubbing up against each other in a desperate hope to regain some sort of crediblity...... No no, Lulu is a work of genius, they knew all along that all the critics would hate it, they made the record to confuse us all..... True story...... 😄
Reminds of of when Dave Mustaines side project M.D.45 with Lee Ving on vocals ... Megadeth fans hated it so much they rerecorded it with Mustaine on vocals .....
Just given this album a listen for the first time and to be honest, it is brilliant. I can understand why the die hard fans may not like it though. I went to a preview for the Black album and was disappointed that it didn't sound like And Justice or Master Of Puppets. I haven't bought any Metallica since then. But this really isn't a Metallica album, it is Lou Reed and you can hear in the music that it is influenced by him. In some ways, I think it is a shame that it is Metallica all the way through. It would have been more interesting with other artists included.
I never actually heard this album. And despite what the video said, St. Anger wasn't bad. I was happy they returned to a heavier sound. I was never that big on guitar solos anyways, I just want speed and heaviness which St. Anger has. It was so welcome after the horrible I Disappear years. I couldn't stand that radio stations kept playing I Disappear because it was their only new material. I'm so glad they got some heaviness back with St. Anger. And St. Anger isn't the only album with bad sound quality, Death Magnetic also sounds like crap. Both albums have good songs, but the sound quality is shit.
If their title track is anything to go by i'd have to disagree. It sounds a lot softer and just generally less coherent, and i'm talking about the live performance where the sound quality is better. Imo they didn't really return to a heavier sound until death magnetic at least
Little Lulu is a comic strip created in 1935 by American author Marjorie Henderson Buell. The character, Lulu Moppet, debuted in The Saturday Evening Post on February 23, 1935, in a single panel, appearing as a flower girl at a wedding and mischievously strewing the aisle with banana peels. Wikipedia
The problem with Lulu is it's purpose and intentions do not line up with Reed's or Metallica's fan bases whatsoever. Reed's awkward vocals appeal to so very few fans, I admit I'm not a fan of Reed's either; mix that one of the most popular rock bands ever to put a spotlight on this arty jam album and you got a catastrophe. I'm a non-discriminate fan and pretty open and I find a lot of the music a fun experience to listen to. Hearing Metallica in a different manner, just loosely jamming was fun. In particular, Junior Dad was quite excellent, which I've always felt was leftover ideas from the discarded early St. Anger sessions (the Presidio album); some were said to be influenced by Sigur Ros and that's clear in the song. I also am in the minority with this opinion, honestly, St Anger is my favorite Metallica album. It's so raw and emotional, the production is unbelievably heavy, the bass is more prevalent than any of their other albums, not a bad song on it. That's not a hot take, I've loved since it was released and wished others would appreciate it the way I do.
It was a record that wanted to be a mainstream avant-garde album, but the essential issue with that is its an oxymoron. It cancels itself out. It's too weird for mainstream audiences (casual and die-hard fans alike), and not weird enough for the outsider audiences. Metallica and Lou Reed made the choices to pigeonhole themselves into pop music territory throughout their careers, and both have had varied degrees of success or turmoil by giving their primary fanbase something outside of the confines of familiarity. Lou Reed did it with "Metal Machine Music"; Metallica did it with "The Black Album", most notably (but you can really list off anything post 1988 for them as an example). You give people music that's more "linear" for the better part of your existence, they're gonna have trouble digesting whatever you give them that isn't. That should come as a surprise to no one. Now having said that, the album itself sounded like a rectum.
I was absolutely fine with not knowing this album existed. I was skate boarding to the first three albums during the short time they were good. That was over 39 years ago. Lou Reed was awesome, don’t blame him for exploiting Metallica for the platform. I actually didn’t know St. Anger was from 2003. Metallica stopped with Cliff. Kanye is more risqué’ than the former thrash metal pioneers.
I think a lot of us were hoping for something that sounded more like Metallica crossed with the Velvet Underground or Lou's "Satellite" album. I found "Lulu" to be somewhat interesting to a point, but two discs of this album was way too much. It was worth about one listen, and not much more. Anyone who is curious why Lou Reed is a big deal and why Metallica would have even wanted to do this project should go listen to some Velvet Underground or "Satellite" right now. But if you dig too far beyond that, your mileage may vary, as well as your patience. I always considered this a Lou Reed album first and foremost and that Metallica just collaborated with Reed. It was Lou's concept and vision. Metallica was just added their musical print to it. I thought it was kinda sad that people got bent out of shape over what was really just a side project. Lou Reed had done a lot of weird music during his life. As a member of the Velvet Underground, he was one of the forefathers of the art rock and alternative/indie rock movements. He wrote weird music and sang about weird people.
I love Metallica...I love Lou! But, the only way I ever found the album tolerable, was that German tv performance they did together. The audience loved the shit outta it! Hearing it in an accepting atmosphere helped me “get it”, heh!
Bowie And Lou knew a lot more about what makes great art than all these internet trolls and arm-chair critics put together. People who don’t get it are just cheating themselves out of one of the greatest albums of all time. If it touched Bowie, it clearly has something to offer. It’s your loss if you don’t get it.
You skewered yourself with your own words when you said "art." Using music to make an art installation is like making a painting out of pasta - it shows you really don't care much about pasta. That's why people hated Lou Lou - The Velvet Underground is pretentious nonsense by people who think they can persuade us they're geniuses because they make "random" half-assed music and use the word "Postmodern" a lot. It was embarassing to watch Metallica stoop to that kind of self indulgence.
Velvet Underground were originators in a lot of rock concepts. Including influencing grunge, punk, art rock, and industrial genres. Their subject matter bent what rock n roll meant, speaking of sex changes, identity, explicit drug use and effects, biopics on peoples’ lives that transcended romantic love and sex as popularized by every rock act prior. They successfully enveloped instruments outside of rock’s guitar-drum-bass paradigm and brought spoken word tracks as storylines to rock records. They had a very talented classicly trained musician John Cale, who was big on piecing together the compositions. They intertwined acoustic and electric pieces, along with layering pop sensability with noise (something that would be picked up again much later in garage rock and alt rock bands of the 80s). They could make an album like white light white heat, which was almost purely experimental and boundary pushing on distortion and technique, make a textbook songform record like their self titled album - doing so half unplugged, and then make a pop -rock sensability record in Loaded. I don’t think you give VU a fair shake, it sounds like you are just basing your opinion off of hipster fans or coffee-sipping critics that wank off to trying to be unique by liking them. They are a cool and very important band in rock history regardless of those people.
Been listening to Lou since 81 and Metallica since 83, and even for me it has taken time for this album to grow on me. But while it is not unexpected from Lou, I was very happy to see Metallica stretching past their comfort zone. Fans of both groups who complained should be ashamed of themselves. Music is art and art has no boundaries, stop trying to pigeonhole the artists.
I think if you approach it as a Metallica album instead of a Lou Reed you’re not gonna like it. Just like it was hard for me to like post pop depression at first because I approached it as a queens of the Stone Age album. The moment I realize it was an Iggy Pop record it instantly became one of my favorite albums of all time.
I don't know what is more hilarious, Metallica doing an art album with Lou Reed or people thinking Metallica fans would be openminded to new directions. All Metallica fans want is "...and Justice for All" formula repeated to death.
You only have to look at the album cover to realise that many of Metallica's old fans didn't want an album which looked like this, and rejected it without hearing any of it or reading any reviews. There were basically 2 groups of Metallica fans by this time - the fans who admired Metallica for their early work before the balck album but in many cases hated that one, many of whom had a social cnosciousness which they had got the impression the band shared - and the fans who came to Metallica because of the black album, who wanted something normal and definitely not shock rock. Neither group was going to buy and album that looked like this.I think it was Barry Manilow who said, "I've never doen anything to make my fans feel ashamed." Metal bands need to walk a fine line between making music (and commissioning graphic art, videos etc) which gives their fans a feeling of boldness because it seems shocking to other people, and actually offending their own fans. Metallica crossed that line in this case. What's more, Metallica were lucky to be forgiven. In Metal, there are a always a lot of bands competing for the disposable of a fairly niche audience who mostly don't have much disposable income - go a a metal concert and you'll typically find about a qaurter of the audience themselves are musicians, often in amateuer bands that would lifve to go pro. As for experimental music, le'ts just say that every decent composer writes lots of experimental music, selects about 25% of this for futher development and then what they record on an album that people are asked to buy or perform at a concert that people are asked to buy tickets for with their hard earned money, mosly doing incomaparbly less fulfilling that that or a rock star, is a FINISHED PRODUCT. Even Metallica's own justification of this album tells us that they din't go throughn this process: They had an idea and they carried it out, but there's more to being a true professional than that and, to their credit, they should know! Surely tha albums that peopoe, admire Metallica for must have gone through such a process.
it's never gonna be a good album, but it does have good moments, and it's interesting to wonder how much potential it had if only Lou's vocals were mixed smoother, and his delivery tighter to the beat. Worth a listen every now and then, it's at least a worthwhile curiosity. Tons more valid than Metal Machine Music which is really a waste of time.
I know in 96 when I saw them in Rockford IL and they came on stage with short hair and cowboy boots then started playing songs off that garbage album load I was confused. Then left with this odd feeling that the band psychotica, a band I had never heard of and haven't listened to since was the best thing there
Maybe I missed something but early in the development stages it was a Metallica project with Lou Reed. It tanks...TANKS..now it's Lou Reed with Metallica. Uh huh.
what other videos would you like see?
Rock N' Roll True Stories How about the downfall, disappearance and death of Stuart Adamson (Big Country)?
Have you done anything on Power Station yet? I think they are one of the most underrated supergroups of all time - and the fact they only did one album makes it all the more interesting to me.
Anything about Danger Danger would be awesome. Great channel, keep it up!!!
Do one about wasp song animal fuck like a beast.
How about The Vandals and the events that took place at The Cuckoo’s Nest with Pat Brown?
Lulu must be listened as a Lou Reed album, not a Metallica. That's where everything went wrong for listeners, I think.
@Jerome Lund it was a Lou Reed album Metallica was his backing band. I thought that was common knowledge.
It is lous album lou wrote the concept framework for the album all metallica were was hired hands
Very true!
Let’s not get ahead of ourselves. It was marketed as a joint collaboration by both and Metallica promoted in that fashion. The album itself has both names.
Exactly!
Lou Reed looked like Jason Newsted´s dad.
Oh my GOD he did!!
True. Also, 69 thumbs up. Nice.
@@VicRattlehead1980 The magic number.
No. Jason Newsted looks like Lou Reed’s son
"You left the band? Watch and learn, son"
It’s hard to forget the sound of Lulu even after eight years.
Which explains how effectve the album actually was, uh?
We all wish we could forget, but we’re all scarred for life. We can scrub and scrub, but we’ll never feel clean after what they did to us.
You mean the uncleanable sound of shit
Never heard it (although the play sounds interesting). Thank God for small favors.
Its my sleepover and i am the goddamn table! We are listening to Metallica
Lulu wasnt my cup of tea but at least Metallica is willing to experiment with sound even if its unsuccessful
Yes, correct
Every band needs to try to experiment so that they grow as a musician bands need to have some sonic failiures. Every band has at least 1 godawful song (unless the band is korn then every song sucks)
Neil pye if you’re not failing, you’re not trying!
At least they did something different this time around. Unlike in 1991, or like the chris cornell went full bubblegum pop. Aughhhhh lulu is probably good compared to scream.
Doesn't mean it's going to be good.
A desk feels no pain, and a table never cries.
LuLu is a tough listen, one that requires a lot of patience. But if I had the opportunity to work with a legend like Lou Reed, damn straight I would take it, no matter what happens.
I AM THE *_T A B L E_*
Side note: I cannot listen to this album, but I respect the hell out of Metallica regardless. I don't call it trash just because it's not for me. I didn't really care for Load and Death Magnetic either, but it'd be a cold day in hell before I'd EVER call them bad albums. Because they weren't. They were just different and not everyone is going to like that. People always say Metallica "sold out," but they've been saying that shit since Cliff was still in the band (technically they've been called sellouts since they first signed on a record label).
The fact that Metallica has literally ONLY ever done what _they_ wanted to do, is why they have NEVER actually sold out. And for that, I will always respect them.
James regrets load and reload. He said in an interview Kirk and Lars pushed them in that direction. He also said cliff would never have allowed them to go that direction
It's not trash, we want Metallica to play TRASH!!!!!
@@flagsabbath6483 I thought he was taking about all the image, though, not musically? Music wise, Hetfield was always main motor of Metallica, so it's hard to imagine that it wasn't his idea. Especially when some songs, like Mama Said are pretty personal for him.
@@lscibor that's what I thought too. Hetifield seemed passionate about the songs. It was just the image he didn't like
yes they were bad albums. stop coping and give in to your thrash autism already. Holding it back will only make it worse.
“Junior Dad” is an awesome song. Just like St Anger, there are some killer riffs buried in this one too. It’s not a daily listen, but it still has merit.
I remember going through the Lulu reviews on iTunes just after its release. To say they were rough was an understatement. They were brutal, but also funny and creative. And there were sooooo many of them. Apple had to clean the reviews off a couple of times and start again. 😂
I think that if the artists were billed as “Lou Reed And The Guys From Metallica,” it would’ve been more accurate. It’s literally the four members of Metallica playing, but I wouldn’t really say that it was Metallica itself playing.
Fantastic album! If only more established bands had the guts to go out on a limb like Metallica did with Lou Reed. A different experience with each listen. An album born of free form experimentation.
The only Metallica album missing from my Met collection, I almost forgot al about it. I know many Met fans consider it “ The Thing that Should Not Be.” Now I’ve finally heard something from it , & despite my misgivings on it, I figure it’s an interesting train wreck that completes the overall picture of the Mighty Met & the late Rock poet, Lou Reed. I think it’s a worthy inclusion in my collection.
How lars's drumming confused everyone.
I'm a huge Metallica fan and very open minded about music (I really enjoy Load & Reload) but I can't stand Lulu. Still I'm glad that Metallica is willing to experiment as musicians.
stop with the "experiment" crap.
I've listened to Lulu at least a couple of time a year for the past five years, As I get older (62 now) it becomes more relevant!!! Currently listening first time this year and I am impressed by the strength of Lou Reed's singing, possibly his best vocal performance, even the wobbly bits. I read an article about David Bowie who rated Lulu very highly and he said to Laurie Anderson after Lou Reed's death, "Listen, this is Lou’s greatest work. This is his masterpiece. Just wait, it will be like Berlin. It will take everyone a while to catch up." It took me a couple of listenings to "catch up" and he's right you know it is a masterpiece and Metallica do a great job.
David bowie is spot on!
As usual
I think it showed an incredible integrity to make that album. I think I’m gonna revisit that album, or visit it, since I haven’t been super interested in what Metallica has done since Load.
Daniel Treadwell Yeah, I had the same feeling when I listened to it. It’s not a Metallica-album and shouldn’t be listened to as one. But my respect for the album and what it represents grew a ton.
The View came out on September 27th 2011... 25 years since Cliff's death. And he loved the Velvet Underground... Now that's a coincidence right there.
LuLu is a fantastic album, I didn’t like it at first but after I had a good conversation with a friend I gave it another chance and started to really get into it. Then I did some looking into the source material and that really helped understand the story better. Thanks guys.
You should do a video on a better album Lou did: The Velvet Underground and Nico (an album that is just as groundbreaking and significant as Sgt Pepper is)
Or White Light/White Heat.
Any velvet underground album
@@flagsabbath6483 Except 'Squeeze' which is really a Doug Yule solo album.
Metallica / Lou Reed...Lulu...I don't care what most critics say....This is a Magnificent Masterpiece of an album ....Junior dad, I have not the words to describe how beautiful and sad this song is.......
Glad you liked it. I think it’s complete trash and seems to be the consensus. Calling it a “magnificent masterpiece” is maybe you trying to overcompensate for other people’s opinions, like mine. If this is album is that great to you, please stay away from music.
@@nyarlathotep.mythos let people like what they like. Asshat.
I find calling this turd a masterpiece insulting to music in general.
@@nyarlathotep.mythos most people don’t like lead belly, but he’s in the Library of Congress. So, mainstream acceptance can go shove it.
Lulu is amazing. Best songs are Dragon and Mistress Dread. Tons of other gems. It's like those magic eye pieces. Once you see it it's great.
2:00 the day they thought their future was so bright they gotta wear shades..
The music on Lulu was really fucking great and often gets overlooked. Lou's lyrics and vocals is mostly where people get lost. I'll admit, nearly a decade later and I still don't get it but I can still respect what they did because it's a bold record and unlike pretty much anything else before or since. R.I.P. Lou Reed. He was a fucking legend that will probably never get his due in the way that he deserves and that will honor his contributions to music.
I AM THE TABLE, SHOUT OUT TO BOTCHAMANIA ONE TIME!
Yes! That's the only reason I know that stupid song.
@@WallyTony same tbh. Never had heard about it prior, then Botchamania enlightened me to that monstrosity
JEEZUS!
The problem is they should write riffs for Lou Reeda voice it's literally Metallica riffs with Lou Reed's poetic execution. Doesn't work together.
Metallica's music has never really been my style, but I respect their drive to constantly be trying something different and not just slipping into attempting to recapture the sound that made them famous, as so many older rock bands do. Never really listened to Lulu, but I love Lou Reed and generally enjoy projects that come from bands working outside their comfort zone, so maybe I'll give it a shot.
RIP Sweet Lou. Berlin is in my top 5 all time.
Even ten years later this album haunts my dreams
i remember when this first came out on youtube. It was just lou reid fans and metallica fans scorning each other
This album, especially the lyrics, way underrated.
Like #13!
I think they get burnt out touring so they enjoy doing something out of left field
That's a ridiculous statement. They barely tour and when they do it's top flight ease. More like they're all old af now and going senile.
Wally & Tony
They barely tour? You sure? Before Coronavirus and Hetfield’s most recent rehab stint, when were they NOT on tour?!
It seems to have followed the precedent set by Neil Young and Pearl Jam decades ago.
That's exactly what happened
lulu is an amazing polarizing album. It’s an aquired taste
I had no idea that this was considered a legitimate Metallica album as I had thought it was a Lou Reed solo album that Metallica members just happened to collaborate on? I bring this up because near the time it was released that's how Lou Reed was treating it in magazine articles. Not Metallica's Lulu with special guest appearance of Lou Reed, but more Lou Reed and the Metallicas play Lulu.
Lulu album shows that Metallica has no limitation in creativity, very open minded. True artist indeed.
Unfortunately can't pull it off that's why it failed
Megadeth can do it tho
@@davidkay1948like they did in Risk?
@@fatimapalacios2292 it was a good album
@@davidkay1948 never said it wasn't. Ecstasy was good
I’m only really into “Iced Honey”, so far, but I already agree with Bowie. I’m trying to learn a bit of German, so I’m prompted to pursue the literature behind the concept
Lulu is not a Metallica's official record, like said so many times by so many people, but a collaboration, a musical experiment with Lou Reed. And the sooner the rest of the people realize it, the sooner they'll understand it and why it is as it is.
You cannot compare & have the same expectations with Lulu like with Lightning, Justice, Hardwired or any other official album. Lulu is an "off side" project and it has to be treated as such. No "ordinary" songs, just a sonic experiment with a great RnR artist...
P.S.: But they are some great riffs inside...
Totally agree with your comments too many people are tunnel visioned when it comes music one thing I did not put in my rant was lou was in his 70s and not in the greatest health when he recorded lulu,
I would like to see metallica play metal milita in their 70s I bet lars could not play that song at the right tempo today!
I get the attitude, that's what people were acting like when it had just come out. Going from what I've read from most people, they seem to realise that but still dislike it. I don't hate it, but I don't really listen to it either.
Then again, I liked Load and Reload..
Yessss!
You guys get it too!
I haven't heard the whole album, but after randomly listening to some of the tracks... I can definitely say it's underrated. Very underrated. It's also very misunderstood, but it's far from a bad album--Metallica does not release bad albums. Even St Anger was still a good listen. It's a Lou Reed Album if anything.
Nice video and as primarily a Lou Reed fan who was turned off by Metallica the same way Metallica fans didn't get Lou I have to say my heart has softened to the album and I've always thought Lou Reed was the greatest but I have a new respect for Metallica... seriously respect them for this collaboration
I think it's their best album but that's just me. I absolutely love all the crazy sounds and how long it is plus the lyrics are crazy.
I only listened to the entire album once, all the way through. When I was driving through a snowstorm in Wyoming. It was the only setting to properly enjoy the record. I hope Lou Reed puts more stuff out soon ;)
Storn Olson unfortunatey Lou Reed died about 7 years ago.
@@NakedBonghit it was a joke dude. or was it?
@@stornkolson His set with Tu Pac at Bonnaroo was dope. Death doesn't exist now. It's just a state of mind.
@@WallyTony you're pretty tough to be named after a fish
The only Metallica album from 2011 I knew about was their Beyond Magnetic EP.
Lulu is a great album. Its a spoken word lou reed recording with Metallica putting music to it and it one of my favorite fucking things to listen to at times. I dig it . I wish i owned it in physical form.
As a HUGE fan of Lou, and a appreciator of Metallica, I can say that David Bowie is right about “Lulu”. I was confused when it first came out. But in 2019 it hit me like a ton of bricks, it is a masterpiece, and like Lou’s album “Berlin” will likely take decades to garner the respect and admiration it deserves. Props to Metallica for making such stellar art, with their commercial success this undertaking took some big balls!
I'm a huge metallica fan, reason why I picked up a guitar. Do like some ol lou reed too. But I wonder if this album will ever "hit" me. Highly doubt it to be honest but can't blame em for giving something the ol college try
@@know1827 it took me several years (4.5 to be precise), and I was really trying
Sometimes fan boys of a particular band are the worst. Bands and artist make music for themselves first, with the hopes that fans will like it.
Bowie is right. Going back to this, it's intense, harrowing, and chaotic in the exact way that suits the story that's told on it. Lou's vocals are raw and schizophrenic, and Metallica is backing it with some of the heaviest instrumentals they've ever done.
Oh, and "I am the table"? The song "The View"? It's about someone being compelled to kill themselves. James's lines are describing how this voice, or whatever is compelling the central character, embodies everything around them. I am the table = the table they stand on literally, I am the view = the literal view from their apartment, I am the ten stories = where their apartment is.
It's actually really intense, dark, and I find it very affecting going back. The whole album is like that. Maybe some stuff doesn't land and comes across as hokey, but idk, I think it's going to age well.
Metallica have always been criticized for what they do, no matter what.
They got called sell outs after writing fade to black.
They really got called sell out after releasing the black album!
Then REALLY called sell out for the load/reload era.
Then when death magnetic got released, it was 'Metallica by numbers '.
If Metallica, or any band for that matter, just kept releasing their 'best ' album year after year, they'd still get slated!
Loulou wasn't a Metallica album, it was a collaboration record, Metallica just happened to be the backing band.
You forgot when they got called sellouts for making the video for One and releasing it on MTV after they said they would never make a video.
They were sell outs or writing Fade To Black, and then for joining a major label with Master of Puppets, and then for making a music video with One, and then for releasing the Black album, and then for releasing Load/Load. Literally every album after Kill Em' All had people calling them sell outs lol.
Rock and Roll Animal. That's a lightening in a bottle live recording. Dick Wagner and Steve Hunter guitars are absolutely phenomenal. Prakash John bass, loud and clear. Lou also at his best.
it ain't fine less it's Quine 😎
I'm one of a very small minority. I really enjoyed LuLu. I think of it as being a Lou Reed Album. It took what he does and gave a little more punch.
I listened to half of that album..... gave up and tried to forget it ever existed!!!
I love LuLu and bought it on a double CD set. Yes, it's not the usual, it's an abstract audio play album. Crack open your ears!
If they did an edited down version it would've went over better.
Lots of great riffs and I'm a big Lou Reed though, so I'm biased.
Yeah! They weren’t a bunch of dried up rock stars rubbing up against each other in a desperate hope to regain some sort of crediblity......
No no, Lulu is a work of genius, they knew all along that all the critics would hate it, they made the record to confuse us all..... True story...... 😄
The thing is most musicians idolize Lou Reed and Metallica did the right thing collabing with him. It's a bucketlist opportunity.
I’m not a fan of everything that they’ve done, but I respect that they do their own thing and are willing to experiment.
I honestly didn’t even know about this record. Lol
Funny thing; until right now watching this, I didn’t even know this album existed
I really like Lulu, I even Love some of the songs
GDI! Now i'm going to have to check it out
I would buy an instrumental version of this album, no joke!!
I am the table
lou reed is one of my favorite singers.
This album was my confirmation that every time Metallica announces something experimental spearheaded by Ulrich, I'll just turn away
For a while, Lulu and Trout Mask Replica we're my workout jams. I regret nothing.
Highly underrated lou reed album. Metallica was the back up band. And the most interesting thing they had done since master of puppets.
Reminds of of when Dave Mustaines side project M.D.45 with Lee Ving on vocals ... Megadeth fans hated it so much they rerecorded it with Mustaine on vocals .....
Anyone who says that ST Anger is Metallica’s worst album has clearly never listened to LuLu.
Just given this album a listen for the first time and to be honest, it is brilliant. I can understand why the die hard fans may not like it though. I went to a preview for the Black album and was disappointed that it didn't sound like And Justice or Master Of Puppets. I haven't bought any Metallica since then. But this really isn't a Metallica album, it is Lou Reed and you can hear in the music that it is influenced by him. In some ways, I think it is a shame that it is Metallica all the way through. It would have been more interesting with other artists included.
Lars: Hey James we gotta do an art record cause that’ll show the critics we’re Artists!
James: Yeah I guess at this point Nothing Else Matters
But what if it's The thing that should not be?
I never actually heard this album. And despite what the video said, St. Anger wasn't bad. I was happy they returned to a heavier sound. I was never that big on guitar solos anyways, I just want speed and heaviness which St. Anger has. It was so welcome after the horrible I Disappear years. I couldn't stand that radio stations kept playing I Disappear because it was their only new material. I'm so glad they got some heaviness back with St. Anger. And St. Anger isn't the only album with bad sound quality, Death Magnetic also sounds like crap. Both albums have good songs, but the sound quality is shit.
If their title track is anything to go by i'd have to disagree.
It sounds a lot softer and just generally less coherent, and i'm talking about the live performance where the sound quality is better.
Imo they didn't really return to a heavier sound until death magnetic at least
Little Lulu is a comic strip created in 1935 by American author Marjorie Henderson Buell. The character, Lulu Moppet, debuted in The Saturday Evening Post on February 23, 1935, in a single panel, appearing as a flower girl at a wedding and mischievously strewing the aisle with banana peels. Wikipedia
The problem with Lulu is it's purpose and intentions do not line up with Reed's or Metallica's fan bases whatsoever. Reed's awkward vocals appeal to so very few fans, I admit I'm not a fan of Reed's either; mix that one of the most popular rock bands ever to put a spotlight on this arty jam album and you got a catastrophe. I'm a non-discriminate fan and pretty open and I find a lot of the music a fun experience to listen to. Hearing Metallica in a different manner, just loosely jamming was fun. In particular, Junior Dad was quite excellent, which I've always felt was leftover ideas from the discarded early St. Anger sessions (the Presidio album); some were said to be influenced by Sigur Ros and that's clear in the song.
I also am in the minority with this opinion, honestly, St Anger is my favorite Metallica album. It's so raw and emotional, the production is unbelievably heavy, the bass is more prevalent than any of their other albums, not a bad song on it. That's not a hot take, I've loved since it was released and wished others would appreciate it the way I do.
Cover the collaboration between Scott Walker and Sunn 0)))
It was a record that wanted to be a mainstream avant-garde album, but the essential issue with that is its an oxymoron. It cancels itself out. It's too weird for mainstream audiences (casual and die-hard fans alike), and not weird enough for the outsider audiences. Metallica and Lou Reed made the choices to pigeonhole themselves into pop music territory throughout their careers, and both have had varied degrees of success or turmoil by giving their primary fanbase something outside of the confines of familiarity. Lou Reed did it with "Metal Machine Music"; Metallica did it with "The Black Album", most notably (but you can really list off anything post 1988 for them as an example). You give people music that's more "linear" for the better part of your existence, they're gonna have trouble digesting whatever you give them that isn't. That should come as a surprise to no one.
Now having said that, the album itself sounded like a rectum.
I was absolutely fine with not knowing this album existed. I was skate boarding to the first three albums during the short time they were good. That was over 39 years ago. Lou Reed was awesome, don’t blame him for exploiting Metallica for the platform. I actually didn’t know St. Anger was from 2003. Metallica stopped with Cliff. Kanye is more risqué’ than the former thrash metal pioneers.
I think a lot of us were hoping for something that sounded more like Metallica crossed with the Velvet Underground or Lou's "Satellite" album. I found "Lulu" to be somewhat interesting to a point, but two discs of this album was way too much. It was worth about one listen, and not much more. Anyone who is curious why Lou Reed is a big deal and why Metallica would have even wanted to do this project should go listen to some Velvet Underground or "Satellite" right now. But if you dig too far beyond that, your mileage may vary, as well as your patience.
I always considered this a Lou Reed album first and foremost and that Metallica just collaborated with Reed. It was Lou's concept and vision. Metallica was just added their musical print to it. I thought it was kinda sad that people got bent out of shape over what was really just a side project. Lou Reed had done a lot of weird music during his life. As a member of the Velvet Underground, he was one of the forefathers of the art rock and alternative/indie rock movements. He wrote weird music and sang about weird people.
Satellite album is actually called transformer ( produced by David bowie)
I love Metallica...I love Lou! But, the only way I ever found the album tolerable, was that German tv performance they did together. The audience loved the shit outta it! Hearing it in an accepting atmosphere helped me “get it”, heh!
Bowie And Lou knew a lot more about what makes great art than all these internet trolls and arm-chair critics put together.
People who don’t get it are just cheating themselves out of one of the greatest albums of all time. If it touched Bowie, it clearly has something to offer.
It’s your loss if you don’t get it.
You skewered yourself with your own words when you said "art." Using music to make an art installation is like making a painting out of pasta - it shows you really don't care much about pasta. That's why people hated Lou Lou - The Velvet Underground is pretentious nonsense by people who think they can persuade us they're geniuses because they make "random" half-assed music and use the word "Postmodern" a lot. It was embarassing to watch Metallica stoop to that kind of self indulgence.
Velvet Underground were originators in a lot of rock concepts. Including influencing grunge, punk, art rock, and industrial genres. Their subject matter bent what rock n roll meant, speaking of sex changes, identity, explicit drug use and effects, biopics on peoples’ lives that transcended romantic love and sex as popularized by every rock act prior. They successfully enveloped instruments outside of rock’s guitar-drum-bass paradigm and brought spoken word tracks as storylines to rock records.
They had a very talented classicly trained musician John Cale, who was big on piecing together the compositions. They intertwined acoustic and electric pieces, along with layering pop sensability with noise (something that would be picked up again much later in garage rock and alt rock bands of the 80s).
They could make an album like white light white heat, which was almost purely experimental and boundary pushing on distortion and technique, make a textbook songform record like their self titled album - doing so half unplugged, and then make a pop -rock sensability record in Loaded.
I don’t think you give VU a fair shake, it sounds like you are just basing your opinion off of hipster fans or coffee-sipping critics that wank off to trying to be unique by liking them. They are a cool and very important band in rock history regardless of those people.
Just because that dork David Bowie liked something doesn’t mean that it’s good
6:16 Rock Legends never die; they live long enough to watch themselves become abstract bohemian poetry
Been listening to Lou since 81 and Metallica since 83, and even for me it has taken time for this album to grow on me. But while it is not unexpected from Lou, I was very happy to see Metallica stretching past their comfort zone. Fans of both groups who complained should be ashamed of themselves. Music is art and art has no boundaries, stop trying to pigeonhole the artists.
I think if you approach it as a Metallica album instead of a Lou Reed you’re not gonna like it. Just like it was hard for me to like post pop depression at first because I approached it as a queens of the Stone Age album. The moment I realize it was an Iggy Pop record it instantly became one of my favorite albums of all time.
You should do a video on Vince Taylor.
I don't know what is more hilarious, Metallica doing an art album with Lou Reed or people thinking Metallica fans would be openminded to new directions. All Metallica fans want is "...and Justice for All" formula repeated to death.
You only have to look at the album cover to realise that many of Metallica's old fans didn't want an album which looked like this, and rejected it without hearing any of it or reading any reviews. There were basically 2 groups of Metallica fans by this time - the fans who admired Metallica for their early work before the balck album but in many cases hated that one, many of whom had a social cnosciousness which they had got the impression the band shared - and the fans who came to Metallica because of the black album, who wanted something normal and definitely not shock rock. Neither group was going to buy and album that looked like this.I think it was Barry Manilow who said, "I've never doen anything to make my fans feel ashamed." Metal bands need to walk a fine line between making music (and commissioning graphic art, videos etc) which gives their fans a feeling of boldness because it seems shocking to other people, and actually offending their own fans. Metallica crossed that line in this case. What's more, Metallica were lucky to be forgiven. In Metal, there are a always a lot of bands competing for the disposable of a fairly niche audience who mostly don't have much disposable income - go a a metal concert and you'll typically find about a qaurter of the audience themselves are musicians, often in amateuer bands that would lifve to go pro.
As for experimental music, le'ts just say that every decent composer writes lots of experimental music, selects about 25% of this for futher development and then what they record on an album that people are asked to buy or perform at a concert that people are asked to buy tickets for with their hard earned money, mosly doing incomaparbly less fulfilling that that or a rock star, is a FINISHED PRODUCT. Even Metallica's own justification of this album tells us that they din't go throughn this process: They had an idea and they carried it out, but there's more to being a true professional than that and, to their credit, they should know! Surely tha albums that peopoe, admire Metallica for must have gone through such a process.
I love LuLu, no idea why, good album. Guess it’s an acquired taste
it's never gonna be a good album, but it does have good moments, and it's interesting to wonder how much potential it had if only Lou's vocals were mixed smoother, and his delivery tighter to the beat.
Worth a listen every now and then, it's at least a worthwhile curiosity. Tons more valid than Metal Machine Music which is really a waste of time.
Now I want to hear this album.
What did you think Jon ?...Jon ?
Lulu was also adopted into an opera by Alban Berg. The album has more to do with that I suspect.
its my favorite.
It’s essentially not really remembered or counted as a Metallica album. And that’s a good thing
I'm not the biggest Metallica fan but I love Lou.Still can't figure this one out and I loved Berlin,this isn't it's companion though.
Definitive master piece.
“You think I’m a book, or a TABLE, you can prop your fuckin’ feet on when you’re able.” You gotta listen to the whole album.
I personally have never heard of Lulu until now.
I know in 96 when I saw them in Rockford IL and they came on stage with short hair and cowboy boots then started playing songs off that garbage album load I was confused. Then left with this odd feeling that the band psychotica, a band I had never heard of and haven't listened to since was the best thing there
Im gonna give Bowie the benefit of the doubt, Im gonna listen to Lulu till 2030 to see if it is actually good
Not all experiments are successful or should be published, "Lulu" is the very proof of that. But at least Metallica and Lou Reed seemed to have fun.
David Bowie was right.
Maybe I missed something but early in the development stages it was a Metallica project with Lou Reed. It tanks...TANKS..now it's Lou Reed with Metallica. Uh huh.