In Tromsø and Trondheim it ended up with a garbage mountain on the outside because it was always to full or jammed... Birds kept eating the garbage and spread it around, it was just a horrible mess... Done world wide = world wide mess...
For large items such as furniture, toys, electronics etc there was a collection last autumn with multiple locations throughout the island. You could bring things either for recycling/waste or put things like functioning electronics to the side in case someone can still make use of it. For larger waste items there is the sorting room, but large waste for materials like wood.
In Tromsø and Trondheim it ended up with a garbage mountain on the outside because it was always to full or jammed... Birds kept eating the garbage and spread it around, it was just a horrible mess...
Interesting. Hope this works out in a long run. As long as ethical citizens are doing this I am sure itis fine. Imagine other countries people like American teen throw away anything and clog up these pipe within a day. This only works in civizied countries like Finland.
super smart. unfortunately, not everyone is super smart. there are a lot of steps and requirements to classify your stuff, and sadly i know many people who are too sketchy and dont give much attention to this kind of thing. You can bet that stupid people will end up clogging the system, or leaving a dirty matress right next to the disposal area. Or just put random things in there. Some people dont put efforts unless there is some kind of bad consequence, like a costly fine. Not everyone care for common sense 😞
I mean this looks cool and flashy, but isnt that way more complicated and much more effort than putting a collection point every 50 meters down the road like in amsterdam and emptying these collection points by truck?
Indeed, that's also what I have been thinking about. It would be fancy and tidy but ain't a piece of cake bruh and tbh most people won't be interested in taking too much time throwing garbage to an automated bin
Yea you can't put a system like this in a big city because to many people will just get lazy. Your going to have liquids exploding out the bag messing up the pipeline and probably would just be a huge mess. Neat concept
I'm guessing the point is that you skip a step with this. All the trash just teleports to the trash center without the trucks. You save money, time and fuel.
@@bobhydro913 Not a concept, it´s used in Stockholm, London, New York (US) , Finland, Dubai, Hong kong, and soon Sidney. Was installed in stockholm for over 30 years ago for the first time and still running.
Good idea but needs tons of perfection. Wouldn't it be awesome if you had these pipeline acess points in your house or garage? I would want that. Would you need 4 different pipelines for plastic, paper, metal and residual waste? That would be insanely expensive. Or would it be done (like shown in this scematic) with one pipeline that opens one kind of trash at a time and transports it through? How will it be kept jam free, by nature humans will take it to the extreme, the whole "rip it into small pieces" sure, but what if sb doesn't? Could you offer plastic bags (pet or other thermoplast) or reuseable containers? Because i can promise you people won't cope with sorting their trash at the station, especially not because this might cause waiting lines... at the trash bin. Waiting lines at the trash bin sure doesn't sound like progress. Containers are essential. and home aces would be a dream.
You would be surprised what the right culture can do. Nearly every Finnish person has this sort of stuff ingrained in them already. Of course migrants and immigrants from Africa etc. won't.
Queues at waste bins I’m not sure would happen. I’ve lived in communal living spaces as a student before, and we all have to put our waste in collective skips in the basement. I never had to wait. Maybe saw someone down there once or twice. The probability of wanting to take out your waste at the same time as others is very low, and you would never have to wait for more than one person.
It would take a waste management culture shift for Americans for sure. Japan and Korea already have decent recycling habits ingrained so I feel they'd adapt it more easily. I hope my fellow Americans and I can adapt good habits quickly so we can have nice things like this too. Also idk if having households chutes would be too redundant but yea I agree, that would definately be the dream.
@@leesamia4624 I'm not sure about Japan and Korea. Have never been there. But i'm 100% sure that they don't have waiting lines at the trash bins, because people have to rip their garbage into small pieces and sort the trash outside on the spot. Before people cope with waiting lines at the trash bin, i'm sure people would just throw it into nature. I'm pretty sure they, just like europe also have seperate garbage bins at home which are then picked up at different days of the week. (e.g. in germany it was residual waste on wednesday, Paper on fridays, plastics on Saturday.) But i would love to have a tube post system for sorting trash at home.
They are, along with Switzerland, Singapore, New-Zealand, Canada, South-Korea and Japan. But, with each year that passes by, volatile uncontrolled immigration is making Scandinavia more and more dangerous, less cohesive society with less resources to work with. In 30 years most nations in Europe will be on the brink of civil war due to multiple populations with multiple value systems, violence against women, societies within societies that are not part of the rest of the countries.
@@lawrencefrost9063 Canada most certainly does have universal healthcare, although not everything is covered under it, such as medications, dental care, and vision care. Source: I'm Canadian
Wow it´s amazing video about recyclabe material, but I have a doubt; As the video showed us you need to use water to clean some container, my question is: What about the really concerns about the future of the water that we can´t be keep alive without water. Why does people should wash this conteiners? It looks like isn´t make sense, isn´t? Because we need to have the conscience about the water if all water´s resources finished? And I´m wondering what can tou do about it? And what can we do to avoid this wash in the kitchen sink. Maybe we could wash it with rain´s water, but does people have to have some way to capture rainwater. My concerns is: If we are thinking tha we are making a good choice but is not too good because we are spend too much water. It´s very hard to think about.
It’s briliant, I cannot disagree. But as someone with technophobia, I could not live there. The concept of pets and animals or even very small children getting in the system with literally no means of a human intervening and saving them terrifies me more than it already does with garbage trucks, which are already plenty of a panic attack for me. I am torn between approving of the efficiency and fearing the machine.
We've been compacting trash and transportation things with pneumatic tubes since the 1800s. It's not really new technology in any way. When is the last time a child or pet was crushed in a garbage truck? You're more likely to get hit by the damn thing then crushed in it's compactor.
@@alec4672 The crushing of small animals in garbage trucks is a daily occurance. It's incredibly common for animals such as cats and dogs, typically young ones, as well as wildlife such as badgers and raccoons, to be found in the trash by garbage collectors. Whilst I praise those who check, most garbage collectors do not, and dead animal bodies are a steady stream at recycling facilities. For humans in garbage trucks, the latest well documented case was in Nov 12 2022, very recently, concerning 19 year old Kellen Bischoff who was found dead amongst compacted trash at a recycling facility after he had drunkenly passed out in a dumpster. Whilst this is one case, these accidents are extremely common, and typically concern the homeless who have no time to exit the dumpster once it gets hooked onto the garbage truck, and who aren't found simply because garbage collectors do not check for them. Additionally are garbage collectors statistically more likely to get injured or die on the job than police officers, simply from opperating the vehicle. Alltogether, you're much more likely to die inside a garbage truck than to get hit by one. There just aren't enough safety measures or human control protecols in place to make these machines remotely safe. For people like me who have mechanophobia, the fear is shockingly grounded, and these very real issues make it neigh impossible to get over our fear. I have been making great progress no longer fearing machines such as table saws, of which I am proud! But garbage trucks? No. I cannot be convinced these things are safe.
That's why the doors are locked for a reason that access the tube , it's so small children and people with no common sense can't get in the system and clog up the system and possibly die
Hoping that the Philippines will also having this kind of technology. But the best way is help yourself to properly dispose garbage..at home and discipline yourself for proper disposal because the problem is man's character.too lazy to segregate garbage properly.
here in america we just throw our trash out of the car window on the way to work. pretty soon convicts from the local prison come along and pick it up and they do all the sorting.
For the work you do to recycle you may as well just make your own cardboard box and aluminum cans. Isn't that what machines are for to sort, clean and separate?
There's no such thing as a fully automated recycling center; machines just don't have the ability to seperate everything out properly at this point. If the center is actually recycling things, and not just acting like a stopover between you and the dump, then at some point in the process it has to be sorted by human hands, either by the consumer or an employee at the plant.
By the time you finish all the careful sorting, rinsing and packaging, it seems like there's too much time and effort already expended to just throw it away! : )
Yes as it should be actually, we should have some responsibility for the waste we generate. If you don’t want the work to throw it out, then minimise the waste you generate
@@Eldric.1 My friend, this is why the world is the way it is; Human Nature! And if you think you're more noble for cleaning your garbage, I'll bet there are other things you do that aren't so noble. Perhaps you should stop with the self righteous posturing. Yes?
@@peetabrown5813 There are other ways to dispose of garbage besides sorting, washing, dry cleaning, starching, folding and making like new just before you throw it out, regardless of the amount of waste you generate.
All this is nice until it jams or they keep getting to slow to empty it so it is perpetually full like in Tromsø and Tondheim where it in the end ended up with mountains of garbage dumped around the pipe because it was always full or jammed...
3:52 So, what's the point of sorting them all out and having separate hatches for each type of waste if they just all go into one tube underground and get mixed together anyway?
From what we can see in the video, only one tube launches at a given time. It is possible that a single type of waste is flushed at a given time from all of the collecting points; once the truck is full they can flush the next type of waste to fill another truck. Well, it's just an assumption since I haven't checked how the system actually works.
The system has sensors to ensure that only one kind of waste material is traveling through the pipe at a time and it off-loads into seperate containers for each type of waste. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Automated_vacuum_collection
i can tell you from my own experience that this doesnt work, the sorting rooms are overflowed with garbage all the time, because people dont use this system, because it onle takes small sized garbage and its easier for people just to throw them into the regular bins
Love it. Common sense. What if... what if .....this is done worldwide?
say no to expansion of electonic
In Tromsø and Trondheim it ended up with a garbage mountain on the outside because it was always to full or jammed... Birds kept eating the garbage and spread it around, it was just a horrible mess... Done world wide = world wide mess...
@@a64738 yeah right
Looks like a huge pain in the ass. No thanks
@@bidmcms3 agreed
It was difficult to jam my old couch in that little hole, but I managed to do it.
Well i disposed one corpse long time ago haha. (FBI this is a joke)
@@PeIaaja (undercover FBI Agent) Haha, we know.... We Know.
This is fascinating. How would you cope doing a de-clutter/clean out? I don’t even buy a lot but I wouldn’t cope with this.
For large items such as furniture, toys, electronics etc there was a collection last autumn with multiple locations throughout the island. You could bring things either for recycling/waste or put things like functioning electronics to the side in case someone can still make use of it. For larger waste items there is the sorting room, but large waste for materials like wood.
In Tromsø and Trondheim it ended up with a garbage mountain on the outside because it was always to full or jammed... Birds kept eating the garbage and spread it around, it was just a horrible mess...
Interesting. Hope this works out in a long run. As long as ethical citizens are doing this I am sure itis fine. Imagine other countries people like American teen throw away anything and clog up these pipe within a day. This only works in civizied countries like Finland.
I want the narrator saying biowaste as my notification sound
So interesting! This could never work in the Netherlands though. People would just fill all the pipes randomly and even with pieces of furniture.
Wish we had this in America. In New York City the streets are just filled with mountains of black garbage bags waiting for pickup by sanitation crews.
You guys have at least one already. Here's to advocating for more! 🥂 en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Automated_vacuum_collection
super smart. unfortunately, not everyone is super smart.
there are a lot of steps and requirements to classify your stuff, and sadly i know many people who are too sketchy and dont give much attention to this kind of thing.
You can bet that stupid people will end up clogging the system, or leaving a dirty matress right next to the disposal area. Or just put random things in there.
Some people dont put efforts unless there is some kind of bad consequence, like a costly fine.
Not everyone care for common sense 😞
imma take a shit in it
@@yoghurt3136 there ya go ! then im gonna put my cat in there
good work to control world air polution
It's been 4 years since this video got uploaded to the RUclips website. How is Jätkäsaari doing now?
re-education is a very hard process. who knew recycling (Garbage), could be so much work?
@@Padlock_Steve Yeah this doesn't seem all that difficult. I can imagine doing this like maybe Once a month if not every two.
Ooops, I never rinse anything. Must start.
I mean this looks cool and flashy, but isnt that way more complicated and much more effort than putting a collection point every 50 meters down the road like in amsterdam and emptying these collection points by truck?
It’s way harder to toss a body into it for for a child to climb in
Indeed, that's also what I have been thinking about. It would be fancy and tidy but ain't a piece of cake bruh and tbh most people won't be interested in taking too much time throwing garbage to an automated bin
Yea you can't put a system like this in a big city because to many people will just get lazy. Your going to have liquids exploding out the bag messing up the pipeline and probably would just be a huge mess. Neat concept
I'm guessing the point is that you skip a step with this. All the trash just teleports to the trash center without the trucks. You save money, time and fuel.
@@bobhydro913 Not a concept, it´s used in Stockholm, London, New York (US) , Finland, Dubai, Hong kong, and soon Sidney. Was installed in stockholm for over 30 years ago for the first time and still running.
Good idea but needs tons of perfection.
Wouldn't it be awesome if you had these pipeline acess points in your house or garage? I would want that.
Would you need 4 different pipelines for plastic, paper, metal and residual waste? That would be insanely expensive. Or would it be done (like shown in this scematic) with one pipeline that opens one kind of trash at a time and transports it through?
How will it be kept jam free, by nature humans will take it to the extreme, the whole "rip it into small pieces" sure, but what if sb doesn't?
Could you offer plastic bags (pet or other thermoplast) or reuseable containers? Because i can promise you people won't cope with sorting their trash at the station, especially not because this might cause waiting lines... at the trash bin. Waiting lines at the trash bin sure doesn't sound like progress. Containers are essential. and home aces would be a dream.
You would be surprised what the right culture can do. Nearly every Finnish person has this sort of stuff ingrained in them already. Of course migrants and immigrants from Africa etc. won't.
Queues at waste bins I’m not sure would happen. I’ve lived in communal living spaces as a student before, and we all have to put our waste in collective skips in the basement. I never had to wait. Maybe saw someone down there once or twice. The probability of wanting to take out your waste at the same time as others is very low, and you would never have to wait for more than one person.
It would take a waste management culture shift for Americans for sure. Japan and Korea already have decent recycling habits ingrained so I feel they'd adapt it more easily. I hope my fellow Americans and I can adapt good habits quickly so we can have nice things like this too. Also idk if having households chutes would be too redundant but yea I agree, that would definately be the dream.
@@leesamia4624 I'm not sure about Japan and Korea. Have never been there.
But i'm 100% sure that they don't have waiting lines at the trash bins, because people have to rip their garbage into small pieces and sort the trash outside on the spot.
Before people cope with waiting lines at the trash bin, i'm sure people would just throw it into nature.
I'm pretty sure they, just like europe also have seperate garbage bins at home which are then picked up at different days of the week. (e.g. in germany it was residual waste on wednesday, Paper on fridays, plastics on Saturday.)
But i would love to have a tube post system for sorting trash at home.
I feel Finland + Scandinavian countries are the perfect place to be
They are, along with Switzerland, Singapore, New-Zealand, Canada, South-Korea and Japan.
But, with each year that passes by, volatile uncontrolled immigration is making Scandinavia more and more dangerous, less cohesive society with less resources to work with.
In 30 years most nations in Europe will be on the brink of civil war due to multiple populations with multiple value systems, violence against women, societies within societies that are not part of the rest of the countries.
@@lawrencefrost9063 Canada doesn't have government subsidies health care. And Singapore makes it illegal to be gay.
@@lawrencefrost9063 Canada most certainly does have universal healthcare, although not everything is covered under it, such as medications, dental care, and vision care.
Source: I'm Canadian
Nice but what happens if a pet or something like a little puppy is inside?? 😢
this is cool technology
are serious about the fight against garbage. Garbage truck on the M1083 MTV chassis.
Wow it´s amazing video about recyclabe material, but I have a doubt; As the video showed us you need to use water to clean some container, my question is: What about the really concerns about the future of the water that we can´t be keep alive without water. Why does people should wash this conteiners? It looks like isn´t make sense, isn´t? Because we need to have the conscience about the water if all water´s resources finished? And I´m wondering what can tou do about it? And what can we do to avoid this wash in the kitchen sink. Maybe we could wash it with rain´s water, but does people have to have some way to capture rainwater. My concerns is: If we are thinking tha we are making a good choice but is not too good because we are spend too much water. It´s very hard to think about.
In the regard of waste management and recycling they are already living in 2122.
Sad that we still use so many plastic bags just to throw waste away
It’s briliant, I cannot disagree. But as someone with technophobia, I could not live there. The concept of pets and animals or even very small children getting in the system with literally no means of a human intervening and saving them terrifies me more than it already does with garbage trucks, which are already plenty of a panic attack for me. I am torn between approving of the efficiency and fearing the machine.
dedinetly!!
there's help out there if you want it. you can learn to live with technology. best wishes.
We've been compacting trash and transportation things with pneumatic tubes since the 1800s. It's not really new technology in any way. When is the last time a child or pet was crushed in a garbage truck? You're more likely to get hit by the damn thing then crushed in it's compactor.
@@alec4672 The crushing of small animals in garbage trucks is a daily occurance. It's incredibly common for animals such as cats and dogs, typically young ones, as well as wildlife such as badgers and raccoons, to be found in the trash by garbage collectors. Whilst I praise those who check, most garbage collectors do not, and dead animal bodies are a steady stream at recycling facilities.
For humans in garbage trucks, the latest well documented case was in Nov 12 2022, very recently, concerning 19 year old Kellen Bischoff who was found dead amongst compacted trash at a recycling facility after he had drunkenly passed out in a dumpster.
Whilst this is one case, these accidents are extremely common, and typically concern the homeless who have no time to exit the dumpster once it gets hooked onto the garbage truck, and who aren't found simply because garbage collectors do not check for them.
Additionally are garbage collectors statistically more likely to get injured or die on the job than police officers, simply from opperating the vehicle.
Alltogether, you're much more likely to die inside a garbage truck than to get hit by one. There just aren't enough safety measures or human control protecols in place to make these machines remotely safe. For people like me who have mechanophobia, the fear is shockingly grounded, and these very real issues make it neigh impossible to get over our fear. I have been making great progress no longer fearing machines such as table saws, of which I am proud! But garbage trucks? No. I cannot be convinced these things are safe.
That's why the doors are locked for a reason that access the tube , it's so small children and people with no common sense can't get in the system and clog up the system and possibly die
Same thing is Japan except that your plastic waste bag will be 5 times larger than any other bag.
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What is the costing of this system
Hoping that the Philippines will also having this kind of technology. But the best way is help yourself to properly dispose garbage..at home and discipline yourself for proper disposal because the problem is man's character.too lazy to segregate garbage properly.
This thing will jam up a few times a week
This feels like playing Fallout
It is all excellent. But why utilize a paper bag that can be used again for carrying paper?
They could use this NYC RIGHT NOW
They already have it in some places in NYC :)
That's insane
here in america we just throw our trash out of the car window on the way to work. pretty soon convicts from the local prison come along and pick it up and they do all the sorting.
😂😂😂
For the work you do to recycle you may as well just make your own cardboard box and aluminum cans. Isn't that what machines are for to sort, clean and separate?
There's no such thing as a fully automated recycling center; machines just don't have the ability to seperate everything out properly at this point. If the center is actually recycling things, and not just acting like a stopover between you and the dump, then at some point in the process it has to be sorted by human hands, either by the consumer or an employee at the plant.
LG tv caught in 4K 📸 3:13
Why not just cut/tear the too large cardboard boxes?
little more work
You probably could if you wanted to, I'm guessing
What happens if I throw away my cat? 🐱
Automatic huh??🤔
This is so inefficient.
By the time you finish all the careful sorting, rinsing and packaging, it seems like there's too much time and effort already expended to just throw it away! : )
That mentality is how we have too much garbage already. This video is doing it slowly for demonstration purposes, you can do it 4x faster by yourself.
This is why your country didnt have this garbage system, because of your mindset, the machine will immediately broke
Yes as it should be actually, we should have some responsibility for the waste we generate.
If you don’t want the work to throw it out, then minimise the waste you generate
@@Eldric.1
My friend, this is why the world is the way it is; Human Nature!
And if you think you're more noble for cleaning your garbage, I'll bet there are other things you do that aren't so noble.
Perhaps you should stop with the self righteous posturing. Yes?
@@peetabrown5813 There are other ways to dispose of garbage besides sorting, washing, dry cleaning, starching, folding and making like new just before you throw it out, regardless of the amount of waste you generate.
All this is nice until it jams or they keep getting to slow to empty it so it is perpetually full like in Tromsø and Tondheim where it in the end ended up with mountains of garbage dumped around the pipe because it was always full or jammed...
where is Roori google doesn't know!!!
Hi! Rööri is located in Jätkäsaari, Helsinki.
how long before somebody drops something in there that is not supposed to be in there? or sabotage it? 😂😂😂
3:52 So, what's the point of sorting them all out and having separate hatches for each type of waste if they just all go into one tube underground and get mixed together anyway?
From what we can see in the video, only one tube launches at a given time. It is possible that a single type of waste is flushed at a given time from all of the collecting points; once the truck is full they can flush the next type of waste to fill another truck. Well, it's just an assumption since I haven't checked how the system actually works.
The system has sensors to ensure that only one kind of waste material is traveling through the pipe at a time and it off-loads into seperate containers for each type of waste.
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Automated_vacuum_collection
weird system
Hyperloop for rats?
this is never going to work in germany. nobody will seperate waste.
I was just going to say that about the majority of Americans!
In Brazil people would find a way to steal those sorting waste machines!
lol. Kuka heittäis tyhjän 24pack lavan kartongin keräykseen kokonaisena? 2:43 Niinno emt trollaan vaa täällä
Too much work
i can tell you from my own experience that this doesnt work, the sorting rooms are overflowed with garbage all the time, because people dont use this system, because it onle takes small sized garbage and its easier for people just to throw them into the regular bins
hahaahahahahahahahahahah
I don't think it's good idea to show a child doing this. Remember there are always those stupid children who will try to climb in the machine.
Please watch your children
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