I was stationed at Eielson AFB from 83 to 87 and assigned to SUPPLY/POL. I recall one day working E-4 refueling twin KC135s at minus 70 F. Heading home after working swings normal evening temperature was minus 60
As a member of the 55th SAC WING, I spent 6 months at Eielson on a TDY BACK IN LATE '62. W e played softball in '20 degree weather! I also remember a youngster died when running to catch a bus in -62 degrees!
In 1974 as a USAF Air Traffic Controller I was stationed a year at Sondrestrom Air Base, 90 miles North of the Artic Circle in Greenland. There was even another Air Base even further North called Thule. Although both bases had USAF personnel stationed there, they belonged to Denmark. Interestingly we didn't get a lot of snow in Greenland but the temperatures were brutal in winter including 24 hours of darkness. I went from Sondrestrom, Greenland to Grand Forks, North Dakota and I would rather be in Greenland, much less wind and snow.
Went to this base after leaving Fort Greeley during a convoy trip to Fort Wainwright and i gotta say they impressed me with the management of the snow and ice
As a retired aircrew member of the USAF and the ANG I couldn't help but let out a howl with the teaser about Hilton hotels. I've been to Eielson twice for TDY but not in the winter. Is Minot close enough?
30 years in the Alaska Air Guard at Eielson AFB, KC-135s. 354th has the fighters, F16, F35 and used to have A-10 and other a/c. Flightline activity at Eielson is a different world.
Lets not forget the base weather personal who monitor the local weather and advise commanders of the base situation before, during and after a snow /ice event.
Have lived here in Fairbainks Alaska and up in Barrow Alaska for going on thirty three years now and have seen it below -60 here in the Fairbainks area but even colder up in Barrow with the windchill and have worked on this base that they are showing a few times
Live in Glenville NY where the air national guard base is that stores the c-130s they do practice flights every Wednesday all day long super cool seeing them fly around
lift is created by bernoulli's principle, which has nothing to do with pushing air down. It's more an issue of the air moving over the top of the wing being disrupted by the snow preventing lift. also, harbor freight doesn't sell snow blowers 😝
It is Pituffik Space Base now. Very few permanent aircraft stationed there, most of the jets are deployed U.S., Canadian, and Danish Air Force squadrons (and still hold joint exercises there). Still wish I got orders there, but never worked out. Now I just support the C-17's that deploy there.
Thank heavens for a decent commentary and not full of cliches and especially thankful for no dumb, stupid background music so beloved of other video producers.
I was at Minot between 02-05 and I can tell you there was next to no training when it came to using the deicer booms. Just a quick overview of the controls and there you go 😂 if you were an E-3 or below you could bet your time would come to operate this😅 No matter your AFSC as long as you were a flight mechanic. Of course that may no longer be the case now. Also one piece of machinery used all around the buildings sidewalks and parking lots was the Bobcat with the bucket attachment. It appears now that they use Golf Carts 😅 with pushers
Your description of how a normal wing creates lift is incorrect. Air is not forced down by the wings to push the aircraft up. Air is forced to go over and under the wing, with the speed differential between fast and slow moving air creating lift on the top of the wing. Wings are designed to have air moving faster over the top surface and slower over the underside of the wing.
I was a helicopter mechanic at Ft. Wainwright for 6 years. The lowest temperature that I ever saw on the Univervercity of Fairbanks sign was -68 F. That's why they send you to Ft. Drum New York to get your "Artic" tab, they have more snow. When the temperature drops so low that the humidity in the air freezes, snow does not stick together, instead it acts almost like dust or "powder". Henceforth, snowballs suck if you go too far north in the winter.
I had a job as a technician where we flew out of Fairbanks in helicopters for a summer. We had 3 on contract. I then flew out of pump stations to mountain top communications sites. I worked in the Arctic in Alaska close to 30 years.
Was stationed at Minot from 85-91 and there’s nothing colder than the “Not” in the winter months. It’s the absolute coldest place I’ve ever experienced in a 22 year career. It’s not for wimps and that’s a fact.
Stationed at Ellsworth AFB, South Dakota in 66-67. Blizzard May 1, 67 with 20" snow, 70 mph winds (relying on memory). Stranded in barracks from Friday night until Monday morning. They came & got us Monday morning & dropped us off at the alert pad to shovel snow around B-52 wing tanks. Finally decided to pull bombers ahead & use snow plows. Leave it to the Air Force & SAC to think snow shovels were the answer.
@@gregorteply9034 This is what utter and complete corruption gets you. Fuel tankers showing up to the front filled with water. Because the fuel was stolen years ago and sold. Enjoy your well deserved suck Russia. How's the three week special military operation going? LOL. The world laughs at Russia.
I was stationed at Eielson AFB from 83 to 87 and assigned to SUPPLY/POL. I recall one day working E-4 refueling twin KC135s at minus 70 F. Heading home after working swings normal evening temperature was minus 60
As a member of the 55th SAC WING, I spent 6 months at Eielson on a TDY BACK IN LATE '62. W e played softball in '20 degree weather! I also remember a youngster died when running to catch a bus in -62 degrees!
In 1974 as a USAF Air Traffic Controller I was stationed a year at Sondrestrom Air Base, 90 miles North of the Artic Circle in Greenland. There was even another Air Base even further North called Thule. Although both bases had USAF personnel stationed there, they belonged to Denmark. Interestingly we didn't get a lot of snow in Greenland but the temperatures were brutal in winter including 24 hours of darkness. I went from Sondrestrom, Greenland to Grand Forks, North Dakota and I would rather be in Greenland, much less wind and snow.
note: the P-38 is the small twin engine aircraft, and not the four-engine bomber. That is the B-17
probably just a editing error
That’s a HUGE P-38 Lightning… lol
@@zacharybennett1663 what you don't remember the104ft wide quad engine B-38 lightning?
Went to this base after leaving Fort Greeley during a convoy trip to Fort Wainwright and i gotta say they impressed me with the management of the snow and ice
As a retired aircrew member of the USAF and the ANG I couldn't help but let out a howl with the teaser about Hilton hotels. I've been to Eielson twice for TDY but not in the winter. Is Minot close enough?
I’ve been in Fairbanks on many days where temps got below -50f.
1989...Tanana 76 below...at the same time in...McGrath..... 75 below Fairbanks was comparatively warm!....-51
I miss flying on the LC-130s when I went to McMurdo.
very educational video👍
30 years in the Alaska Air Guard at Eielson AFB, KC-135s. 354th has the fighters, F16, F35 and used to have A-10 and other a/c. Flightline activity at Eielson is a different world.
Lets not forget the base weather personal who monitor the local weather and advise commanders of the base situation before, during and after a snow
/ice event.
Thank you for sharing great aircraft.
I spent four years stationed at Malmstrom Air Force Base in great falls Montana where thirty below was average temperatures. That was cold
Fairbanks has been well below -50f on many days during winters. I’ve been in those temps there on many occasions.
Have lived here in Fairbainks Alaska and up in Barrow Alaska for going on thirty three years now and have seen it below -60 here in the Fairbainks area but even colder up in Barrow with the windchill and have worked on this base that they are showing a few times
Live in Glenville NY where the air national guard base is that stores the c-130s they do practice flights every Wednesday all day long super cool seeing them fly around
Hi I love cold and snow My dad was in the Air Force 1957-1968
Respect to the folks who work hard in these brutal cold conditions ! God bless y'all 🙏
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lift is created by bernoulli's principle, which has nothing to do with pushing air down. It's more an issue of the air moving over the top of the wing being disrupted by the snow preventing lift. also, harbor freight doesn't sell snow blowers 😝
Was there!!!! A few times from Shemya AFB to Eielson AFB. Cobra Ball. 1990-91. Burrrrrrr!!!! LOL!!!!
Let me tell you a little something about cold bases. Come visit Fort Drum in the middle of winter in N.Y.
Beyond Facts is right. That's exactly what this video is.
No Thule airbase is above the artic circle and it´s still American even though it´s in Greenland on Danish soil.
It is Pituffik Space Base now. Very few permanent aircraft stationed there, most of the jets are deployed U.S., Canadian, and Danish Air Force squadrons (and still hold joint exercises there). Still wish I got orders there, but never worked out. Now I just support the C-17's that deploy there.
I was thinking the same.
Vertical flow of air DOES NOT create lift.
Thank heavens for a decent commentary and not full of cliches and especially thankful for no dumb, stupid background music so beloved of other video producers.
Grand Forks AFB in ND was pretty damn cold. 1988-1992.
I would have thought that Thule Air Force base in Greenland was their coldest base.
2:09 you labeled the two planes backwards. The top plane is the B17, and the bottom is the P38, also that is definitely not how lift is made…
I love how he says it takes months to get qualified to be a deicer...I was trained in a week when I was stationed at Elmendorf.
Funny how you show video of Dover AFB, DE. For the record, I have frozen my ass off on that flightline.
I was at Minot between 02-05 and I can tell you there was next to no training when it came to using the deicer booms. Just a quick overview of the controls and there you go 😂 if you were an E-3 or below you could bet your time would come to operate this😅 No matter your AFSC as long as you were a flight mechanic. Of course that may no longer be the case now. Also one piece of machinery used all around the buildings sidewalks and parking lots was the Bobcat with the bucket attachment. It appears now that they use Golf Carts 😅 with pushers
That’s not how lift is made. Wings don’t force air down to make plane go up. Not even close.
Yeah, I didn't think that sounded right.
I guess that's why they are called "beyond facts" because they are way off from them 😅
'Beyond Facts' is an accurate description of this video. The cockpit of that aircraft IS NOT 78 inches off the ground !! Try 8 feet !
Yes he is off by a foot and a half
Really he got the P38 and B17 mixed up
Your description of how a normal wing creates lift is incorrect. Air is not forced down by the wings to push the aircraft up. Air is forced to go over and under the wing, with the speed differential between fast and slow moving air creating lift on the top of the wing. Wings are designed to have air moving faster over the top surface and slower over the underside of the wing.
That is not the way aerodynamics causes lift. Some lift comes from AoA but it's the Bernoulli principle for most of the lift.
1:48 Could have said “to stall”😅
What about Thule Greenland?
Ice formation on the wings disrupts laminar airflow causing loss of lift
In KJA-airport -40Celsius, same -40F was normal temperature during January-February several weeks.
The arctic circle in you video is wrong. The arctic circle is 90miles north of Norman wells
Was stationed here from 86 to 90. Worked on A-10’s, Electronic Warfare.
I was also station at Eielson from Jan 83 to Jul 93, worked O-2A, OV-10A and A10's ,and little time on the F-16'. Munitions and Supervisor.
@ you were there the winter it was so cold that we had to work at the power plant shoveling coal?
Been there many times. It is brutal
I thought Thule was the northernmost and most isolated. Silly me
I would have expected Thule, Greenland to be the coldest.
Fort Wainwright is more North. I flew helicopters out of it😂
I was a helicopter mechanic at Ft. Wainwright for 6 years. The lowest temperature that I ever saw on the Univervercity of Fairbanks sign was -68 F. That's why they send you to Ft. Drum New York to get your "Artic" tab, they have more snow. When the temperature drops so low that the humidity in the air freezes, snow does not stick together, instead it acts almost like dust or "powder". Henceforth, snowballs suck if you go too far north in the winter.
I had a job as a technician where we flew out of Fairbanks in helicopters for a summer. We had 3 on contract. I then flew out of pump stations to mountain top communications sites. I worked in the Arctic in Alaska close to 30 years.
Switch the tags... the B-17's are tagged as P-38's and vice versa.
Coldest?!
Thule was pretty dang cold!
Thule scoffs at Alaskan winter lol.
Hah glad I missed that one, and I've heard the stories.😅
Maybe a sub airport works, only Open an entrance like a navy Carrier
not even close to the cold and snow in Fargo
If I was stationed here four years and out.
I've been a aircraft mechanic and snow removal equipment operator at Elmendorf AFB in AK and basically everything in this video is not accurate.
Nonsense Alaska is a prestigious posting!
They could make it a tropical island yet they don't🤔🎁🤣odd
What about QAX QAW ?
Thought I was looking at a video game.
4:59 iraqi airforce and loads of sunshine.... hmm i say a major blooper
B17 and P38 were labeled incorrectly. I’m gone since you aren’t vetting
See ya!
Later
"the f35, which is the most common aircraft there"
while showing takeoff of not an f35
No worries here. In about 35 years, this cold base will be surrounded by corn fields, year round...
Folks due need to eat and since we don't have wars on the scale to control the populace going to need it.
BS. You're drinking too much green Kool aide.
9:38 is that a 3 engine c 130 I'm looking at .. wtaf people
5:00 That C-130 belongs to the Iraqi airforce. 😅
I be,I’ve he said AIR Force bases, not Army Bases
Thule is colder than this location.
coolest*
I thought he visited the base 😂, misleading!!
You didn’t even pronounce the name of base correctly!
Now those people running all that equipment Is that Air Force or Just another waste of taxpayers money paying a private company millions to do it?
Thule?
Coldest DEI Training on the planet!
Beyond facts? You should start with getting the facts right first
Hah come spend a winter at Minot AFB in ND. This place is way more miserable
Was stationed at Minot from 85-91 and there’s nothing colder than the “Not” in the winter months. It’s the absolute coldest place I’ve ever experienced in a 22 year career. It’s not for wimps and that’s a fact.
@ it’s a cold I’ve never experienced before and can’t wait to never experience again lol. It’s the only time in my career I wish I had an office job.
Was thinking unless they deal with -40 deg plus windchill it's not all that bad.
Stationed at Ellsworth AFB, South Dakota in 66-67. Blizzard May 1, 67 with 20" snow, 70 mph winds (relying on memory). Stranded in barracks from Friday night until Monday morning. They came & got us Monday morning & dropped us off at the alert pad to shovel snow around B-52 wing tanks. Finally decided to pull bombers ahead & use snow plows. Leave it to the Air Force & SAC to think snow shovels were the answer.
Try Minot AFB in the winter
We lived in caputa early 60s.
And to think we were lead to believe Russia was a global superpower with modern weapons, manpower and equipment.
Ok, bot.
@@gregorteply9034 This is what utter and complete corruption gets you. Fuel tankers showing up to the front filled with water. Because the fuel was stolen years ago and sold. Enjoy your well deserved suck Russia. How's the three week special military operation going? LOL. The world laughs at Russia.
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You really have no idea why it’s called ‘lift’, or how it works, do you?
Your Wrong, FT. Wainwright is farther North. by 20 miles.. I was stationed Eielson AFB for over 10 years.
how can you go inside something that's outside?
Please stop trying to explain how wings create lift. You clearly don’t understand it.
Explain it better…please.
Good one 😂
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