I have the tpr9c. Great firearm. I love the decocker/safety, ease of disassembly, and shoots well. Only complaint is that it’s a little chunky, mags are expensive, and no 15 round option and no space filler to fill in the space if you want to use the larger full sized mags. Also have the thunder 380cc. Fantastic gun. And despite the minuscule sights, it is the most accurate pistol I own.
Now I've never seen this pistol as I just bought a thunder.380 but I would definitely get this one as Bersa makes some good guns for the price. Thanx for the video.
Pulling the offhand index finger against the trigger guard became very popular in the 80's but since then many criticize this hold as a throwback to the 80's. IMO if it works for you then use it. I find that with many handguns it makes for a comfortable grip so on those guns I use it. Not every grip works for every hand on every gun but what proves to a person to be repeatably accurate for a given gun is a good practice regardless of when it was in vogue. The same can be said for a Weaver stance. Now we see more Isosceles stance taught than Weaver. I prefer the Weaver stance so that’s what I use. Neither is wrong. Whatever you can do with consistent results is what works for you.
Well said. I stick to a modified Weaver because I'm not wearing body armor! Why make yourself a bigger target? I can see the perk to Iso for appendix carry (another trend/choice), but I carry strong side, so keeping that weapon away from a threat, plus I normally blade my stance when interacting with people makes a modified weaver more sensible.
@@GBGuns Thank you. My stance is also a somewhat modified Weaver as full Weaver is just a little tight for me & I also do not wear body armor. I did on the job when necessary but not now. We all have diferent body shapes, strengths, weaknesses, eyesight, wants & needs. My advice for all shooters is to try everything (as long as it's safe) & find what suits YOU the shooter best for your application & needs. This is what I train both new & old shooters. They quickly learn this way that what they saw in a movie, at a league shoot, what their friend or relative told them, may or may not be right for them & their purpose
I do enjoy my Bersa Thunder 380, so watching these Bersa videos is a good time. I just have the one Bersa but I do like their other firearms. I know it wouldn’t fit your usual video models, but I would love to see that grip and rail attachment removed and swapped parts with the standard Bersa Thunder 380. Just for fun.
Very Important: Walther PP springs, not PPK springs, fit the Bersa 380's. And one coil at then end of the spring may need loosened. See my vid if you want info on taming Bersa 380 recoil via springs, especially supressed... but Great Video as always Graham!
Regarding wood grips for any Bersa: ruclips.net/video/eR_93NtccAk/видео.html Their 380 firearms look amazing with wood grips. I added these wooden grip panel that look amazing and function great.
I used the finger wrap initially but moved away from it for two reasons: WEAPON LIGHTS, and also my very first match that involved a barricade I went to brace of it and almost broke my finger...self correcting problem but still...
i have been wanting one of these for a while now. a pawn shop down the road has a used on for 200. when i look into new ones, they are typically around 300 with the double stack around 350. nevertheless, i may go get the used one.
Thank you for sharing this information. Although my husband and I prefer German/ European manufactured Firearms some of these pistols are worth looking into. 🙏☃️
I had a .380 Firestorm (Commifornia version of the Thunder) it was great, a friend had a PPKS and the trigger on my Firestorm was much easier and smoother. Unfortunately living in Commifornia I wont be able to get the TRP .380 but it looks great
I got a ruger max 9 in january. Had I known that this existed I would have gotten this or the 9 shown at the beginning of this video. Every time I had kinda looked at available bersa models, the thunder was the only one that seemed worth a shit. But maybe I had been mistaking all of these for polymer framed guns and just glossed over them as a result.
Please tell me sir, is that rail piece that looks attached to the front trigger guard, is that plastic material. Also, is this pistol smaller or larger than Sig P938? I'm a fan of all metal pistols with hammers.
Over the years I've owned several Bersa Thunder .380s and .22LRs. They always seemed to function with no problems. That TPR hang down in the front of the gun looks awful to me.
I tried that method and it's too cramped for my trigger finger. What works for me is pushing out the support thumb like John Lovell shows in his instruction. I went from a standard grip and weaver stance to straight on and this way, and it's much more controllable and accurate especially with the snappier guns.
I've always tried to buy a total of at least 4 magazines with each new pistol I buy. Mags get dropped in the dirt, get stepped on, or can be made un-useable in many different ways. So having only one or two magazines is a big disadvantage!
Oddly enough.... I'm left handed. When I shoot lefty, my grip is high and tight, thumbs forward. But when I switch to my weak side shooting, I almost always find my forefinger sliding forward and grabbing that trigger guard. It's an unconscious movement and only happens when I'm shooting right hand!
I owned a black Thunder 380 CC model but I had to sell it off. The little notch on the slide started to crush or round out, causing the slide to no longer catch on the slide catch/release. Although I owned and carried the gun for about 3 years, the slide and catch were never operated much. The pistol had a relatively low round count as well. It made me question the hardness and longevity of the metal (or metal treatment methods) used by Bersa. Anyone else have "metallurgical" issues with their Bersas?
Yes, you'd need new grips as it's all integrated, but it's essentially a TPR 380 with different grips (the older Thunder models have a different slide)
Owned 4 Bersa's sold all of them except one as that one failed out of the box and needs service still. I want to love them, doesn't ever seem to happen. I am a sucker for .380, maybe one day I will get a Plus model.
I've had a thunder 380 for 25 years... It's an under rated pistol for sure... But, that rail on the front, looks like garbage. Like the slide wasn't made for that frame... Or it was an add on after the gun was built. Eh...
Import regulations serrated trigger, large beaver tail and quite possibly the aluminum frame. If this firearm didn’t have all those regulations it would be perfect.
I like the design of the new slide, but the overmold plastic rail is hideous and useless for a pocket pistol. I would grind off that plastic crap, and it might then be decent for carry
As always, a good and useful review. BUT, I differ on "out of the box" shooting condition evaluation! In the past Century NOBODY would fire a new gun without first cleaning and lubing it! NOBODY would expect a new gun to run well without that, as there is manufacturing grit to be gotten out, and guns are shipped dry except for heavy rustproofing grease for long shelf-life before sale. Revolvers especially are bone-dry inside. Then Yoo-Tuube arose and any video game fan-boy could self-appoint themselves as "operator/experts" with a little coke or meth! "WHASSUP!" They INVENTED the stupid idea that "all guns should work perfectly with any ammo right out of the box without reading the manual!" Then they could sound smart blaming the guns for any failures that happened. ALL of the "real expert Old Timers" have preached against this fallacy of testing new guns "right out of the box." Please do not cater to the idiots; they do not deserve your attention..........................elsullo
To be clear, I always recommend cleaning and lubriacting before firing. The reason I don't add lubrication before a video is to present the "worst case" consumer experience. Once or twice out of the 400+ pistols we've done that to the gun has malfunctioned, we've explained the conditions, added oil, and then resumed without issue.
Manufacturers have to pay California for "testing" and when that's through it's only for that specific item number. Change the color of the gun, and it's not approved. The California system is a racket
Specs, full review, and pricing: www.gbgunsdepot.com/post/bersa-tpr-380
I love it!!!! Everyone's doing a Springfield Echelon review today. Not Graham!!!! Awesome!!!!
Yeah the feed this morning was rather obnoxious, wasn't it?
The tpr9c was highly underrated. Love mine. Don’t carry it as much anymore but it served it’s purpose for a long time
I love the TPR9 and TPR9C
I really enjoy shooting a .380. Underrated for sure
I have the tpr9c. Great firearm. I love the decocker/safety, ease of disassembly, and shoots well. Only complaint is that it’s a little chunky, mags are expensive, and no 15 round option and no space filler to fill in the space if you want to use the larger full sized mags.
Also have the thunder 380cc. Fantastic gun. And despite the minuscule sights, it is the most accurate pistol I own.
Now I've never seen this pistol as I just bought a thunder.380 but I would definitely get this one as Bersa makes some good guns for the price. Thanx for the video.
Pulling the offhand index finger against the trigger guard became very popular in the 80's but since then many criticize this hold as a throwback to the 80's. IMO if it works for you then use it. I find that with many handguns it makes for a comfortable grip so on those guns I use it. Not every grip works for every hand on every gun but what proves to a person to be repeatably accurate for a given gun is a good practice regardless of when it was in vogue. The same can be said for a Weaver stance. Now we see more Isosceles stance taught than Weaver. I prefer the Weaver stance so that’s what I use. Neither is wrong. Whatever you can do with consistent results is what works for you.
Well said. I stick to a modified Weaver because I'm not wearing body armor! Why make yourself a bigger target? I can see the perk to Iso for appendix carry (another trend/choice), but I carry strong side, so keeping that weapon away from a threat, plus I normally blade my stance when interacting with people makes a modified weaver more sensible.
@@GBGuns Thank you. My stance is also a somewhat modified Weaver as full Weaver is just a little tight for me & I also do not wear body armor. I did on the job when necessary but not now. We all have diferent body shapes, strengths, weaknesses, eyesight, wants & needs. My advice for all shooters is to try everything (as long as it's safe) & find what suits YOU the shooter best for your application & needs. This is what I train both new & old shooters. They quickly learn this way that what they saw in a movie, at a league shoot, what their friend or relative told them, may or may not be right for them & their purpose
I have had Very good luck, with my Bersa Thunder 380.
I have been looking at buying a .380 .. bersa makes some great stuff , Thanks for the awesome vid ! 👍👍
Tranks for the tip on the finger forward grip. Going to give it a try.
Beautiful guns from Bersa!
good looking piece.
Bersa was doing very very well.... gave three steps backwards with this new model...
I do enjoy my Bersa Thunder 380, so watching these Bersa videos is a good time. I just have the one Bersa but I do like their other firearms.
I know it wouldn’t fit your usual video models, but I would love to see that grip and rail attachment removed and swapped parts with the standard Bersa Thunder 380. Just for fun.
If I swapped it would essentially be a Thunder 380 with an updated slide.
Very Important: Walther PP springs, not PPK springs, fit the Bersa 380's. And one coil at then end of the spring may need loosened. See my vid if you want info on taming Bersa 380 recoil via springs, especially supressed... but Great Video as always Graham!
Regarding wood grips for any Bersa: ruclips.net/video/eR_93NtccAk/видео.html
Their 380 firearms look amazing with wood grips. I added these wooden grip panel that look amazing and function great.
G.B. thanks for the review. Been a fan for years
I used the finger wrap initially but moved away from it for two reasons: WEAPON LIGHTS, and also my very first match that involved a barricade I went to brace of it and almost broke my finger...self correcting problem but still...
Thanks again for your work
I really wish that TPR 380 was a 12 or 13 round ... I didn't know it came in a TPR 380 Plus .... I'll look more into that
We've reviewed it: www.gbgunsdepot.com/post/bersa-tpr-380-plus
I have a Thunder 380. The front of that gun with that rail is ugly.🤷♂
i have been wanting one of these for a while now. a pawn shop down the road has a used on for 200. when i look into new ones, they are typically around 300 with the double stack around 350. nevertheless, i may go get the used one.
Thank you for sharing this information. Although my husband and I prefer German/ European manufactured
Firearms some of these pistols are worth looking into.
🙏☃️
I had a .380 Firestorm (Commifornia version of the Thunder) it was great, a friend had a PPKS and the trigger on my Firestorm was much easier and smoother.
Unfortunately living in Commifornia I wont be able to get the TRP .380 but it looks great
I'm curious if those grips panels with rail would fit on a standard Thunder 380 or be modified to fit.
Thank you for the info, sir.
Thanks for the video
I got a ruger max 9 in january. Had I known that this existed I would have gotten this or the 9 shown at the beginning of this video.
Every time I had kinda looked at available bersa models, the thunder was the only one that seemed worth a shit. But maybe I had been mistaking all of these for polymer framed guns and just glossed over them as a result.
Please tell me sir, is that rail piece that looks attached to the front trigger guard, is that plastic material. Also, is this pistol smaller or larger than Sig P938? I'm a fan of all metal pistols with hammers.
That looks like a regular Bersa with a Recover Tactical over mold on the lower receiver, not aesthetically pleasing.
The parts breakdown show that what it basically is
The problem with the look is that stupid rail on the front. I don’t understand wanting to put accessories on a pocket gun. That rail just adds bulk
entonces "NO LA COMPRES"
Any ideas on the best place to find tpr mags, GB?
Yes, direct from Bersa USA, and they can be found a few other places. It takes the same mags as the Thunder 380
@@GBGuns Thanks for the heads up!
Hey Graham, cross your pinkies when you shoot it.
Over the years I've owned several Bersa Thunder .380s and .22LRs. They always seemed to function with no problems. That TPR hang down in the front of the gun looks awful to me.
I tried that method and it's too cramped for my trigger finger. What works for me is pushing out the support thumb like John Lovell shows in his instruction. I went from a standard grip and weaver stance to straight on and this way, and it's much more controllable and accurate especially with the snappier guns.
I've always tried to buy a total of at least 4 magazines with each new pistol I buy.
Mags get dropped in the dirt, get stepped on, or can be made un-useable in many different ways. So having only one or two magazines is a big disadvantage!
Do they sell the rail accessory separately?
Oddly enough....
I'm left handed. When I shoot lefty, my grip is high and tight, thumbs forward. But when I switch to my weak side shooting, I almost always find my forefinger sliding forward and grabbing that trigger guard. It's an unconscious movement and only happens when I'm shooting right hand!
Hey man, do you know What type of picatinny attachments does it fit? Blessings
I don't have everything out there to try, but my guess would be compact lights and lasers.
@@GBGuns niceee, thank you!
Ah yes, the Hillary hole. Not a fan of this "feature." But I understand why they would include it. And as always, thanks for the share!!
Is the rail removable? It appears to be clamped on and in my opinion it ruins the look of the gun.
I owned a black Thunder 380 CC model but I had to sell it off. The little notch on the slide started to crush or round out, causing the slide to no longer catch on the slide catch/release. Although I owned and carried the gun for about 3 years, the slide and catch were never operated much. The pistol had a relatively low round count as well. It made me question the hardness and longevity of the metal (or metal treatment methods) used by Bersa. Anyone else have "metallurgical" issues with their Bersas?
Can that horrible looking rail be removed? I see ugly screws there.... Is it just a normal Thunder 380 frame under it?
Yes, you'd need new grips as it's all integrated, but it's essentially a TPR 380 with different grips (the older Thunder models have a different slide)
Owned 4 Bersa's sold all of them except one as that one failed out of the box and needs service still. I want to love them, doesn't ever seem to happen. I am a sucker for .380, maybe one day I will get a Plus model.
I've had a thunder 380 for 25 years... It's an under rated pistol for sure...
But, that rail on the front, looks like garbage. Like the slide wasn't made for that frame... Or it was an add on after the gun was built. Eh...
The rail and grip sides are molded together, it is an add on 😂
Thanks GB. Great job. Good info. God bless.
LETS GO BRANDON
#pedopeter
How about some black polish on those nails?
13:07 *Screams*
Import regulations serrated trigger, large beaver tail and quite possibly the aluminum frame. If this firearm didn’t have all those regulations it would be perfect.
I wish the decocker was ambidextrous.
The Bersa Thunder .380 is still king of the .380 pistols, in my opinion. I'm not a fan of the looks of this new one.
I like the design of the new slide, but the overmold plastic rail is hideous and useless for a pocket pistol. I would grind off that plastic crap, and it might then be decent for carry
As always, a good and useful review. BUT, I differ on "out of the box" shooting condition evaluation! In the past Century NOBODY would fire a new gun without first cleaning and lubing it! NOBODY would expect a new gun to run well without that, as there is manufacturing grit to be gotten out, and guns are shipped dry except for heavy rustproofing grease for long shelf-life before sale. Revolvers especially are bone-dry inside. Then Yoo-Tuube arose and any video game fan-boy could self-appoint themselves as "operator/experts" with a little coke or meth! "WHASSUP!" They INVENTED the stupid idea that "all guns should work perfectly with any ammo right out of the box without reading the manual!" Then they could sound smart blaming the guns for any failures that happened. ALL of the "real expert Old Timers" have preached against this fallacy of testing new guns "right out of the box." Please do not cater to the idiots; they do not deserve your attention..........................elsullo
To be clear, I always recommend cleaning and lubriacting before firing. The reason I don't add lubrication before a video is to present the "worst case" consumer experience. Once or twice out of the 400+ pistols we've done that to the gun has malfunctioned, we've explained the conditions, added oil, and then resumed without issue.
If it's not double stacked no thanks nice gun though
The TPR 380 Plus is double stack. We have a complete review on that model too.
Should be CA compliant but it’s not
Manufacturers have to pay California for "testing" and when that's through it's only for that specific item number. Change the color of the gun, and it's not approved. The California system is a racket
The pic rail addition makes this bersa look very bulky and ugly...prefer the clean lines of the old one...if it ain't broke....
Look's like versa and hipoint had a baby
The frame is aluminum so thats a L for me.
Bersa made a mistake with this redesign , its disgusting