Female Liberation in the post-WWII America - Cold War DOCUMENTARY
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Our historical documentary series on the history of the Cold War continues with a video on the female Liberation in the post-WWII America.
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My late grandmother (who was born around 1920 IIRC) went to college at sixteen and worked as an undergraduate under David Weschler, assisting him in developing the precursor to the WAIS. She was invited to continue as a graduate student, but declined because she felt she would be falling down on her duty as a wife. I must stress that this pressure was not coming from my grandfather, but society in general (though she never mentioned what her parents' stance was); he would have been fine with it. To have something to do with her mind, after WWII she worked as an interior decorator. That is how stultifying this intense societal pressure was.
EDIT: She related this story to me when I was a fairly young child, and back then I was not capable of appreciating the gravity of what she was saying! In retrospect, it is such a striking story that I had to check the Wikipedia article on Weschler to make sure the dates and places comported with my memory of what she told me. They do.
That is fucking terrible.
I think you’ll find it’s Wechsler not weschler.
I read your interpretation and found it wanting. Some research tasks are so consuming that they require a monastic focus. I can well see her opting for her prior commitments and not neglecting her husband and kids. It may be one or other but not both
A married woman exclusively devoted to raising stable, healthy children does more for society than any scientific invention.
@@t6v5c2 Really. Dr Salk of the eponymous polio vaccine is of equivalent importance and worth as Mrs Murphy and her brood of well behaved kids?
@@alfredopampanga9356 a stable society is comprised of stable, contributing adults. The greater number of stable adults, the better off society is. Stable children generally become stable adults. Stable children overwhelmingly come from stable homes. Stable homes generally consist of stay-at-home wives and mothers almost exclusively devoting their amazing talents to rearing children.
Great video! Next time you should do one for the transformation of women in the communist block. It could help us understand how gender is approached in the post-Soviet space
A similar channel focused on WW2 and pre-war does discuss this in the the USSR.
@@theoutlook55 What channel is it?
@@VictorKB96 ruclips.net/video/t2MMvzN8YNg/видео.html
I don't remember the exact episode name, but it's connected with the time ghost army.
i think the reason for that is very tragic.
Take a pill to feel better... What a brave new world they lived in...
It's far more ubiquitous today.
I guess the more thinks change, the more they stay the same.
@@bsadewitz Without question.
The Cold War; You need to make an episode of the Soviet film "Heart Of a Dog". This film is exceptionally good, with very profound, deep meaning. It displays the conflict between a man with a mindset of nobility and the new times of Marxism-Leninism.
Thank you David and the ColdWar Channel Team for making this video, reminding us of where we had been and perhaps, where we would be rolling back to again…. The context of the communism vs. western “democracy” with the reminder of the Caucasian-driven & religious-centric narratives are important to remember.
On Mother’s Day weekend no less. Motherhood is an awesome responsibility and should be only for those who are ready for it, with villages/communities to support that role, not just lip services but the mundane/arduous day-to-day struggles of the “modern” 1950/2020’s world.
I thank all the mothers, figuratively or physically, for I will never fully grasp how do you do it everyday. Especially my own mother and my own Better Half ❤
Happy Mother’s Day, everyday. Mothers (and women) need all the support that they ought to support them, not more expectations on what to do with their organs.
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damn 61 years later married women still have to work to support their families cause of high prices.
This is why so many other first-world countries embraced social democracy. Not the US!
Welcome to equality of outcome comrade. Enjoy!
The high prices are just one more symptom of wealth stratification and costs of living rising while pay hasn't. Cause anti-labor practices since Reagan.
@@bsadewitz in a social democracy it is even worse.I should know.I immigrated from Germany.Single women are working their butt off just to pay their bills.
These countries make it seems they are helping them through government assistance.They do but it's too little.
Like the video despite the content... but I had to admit that more episodes on this topic is needed, cause in contrast with other rich in details and nuansed episodes this seemed like surfing on the top of the theme and prelude to more detailed series.
I wonder how working class women of the pre-20th century would have been described? On farms women generally did as much work as the men, particularly at planting and harvest time when every possible hand was needed. Either she pulled the plow while he pushed or vice versa. The mule, which became the Democratic Party's logo, was the working people's unrequited dream. Working class women in cities fared little better. I'm just saying that the writers who labelled Soviet women as mannish would have been shocked if they met their great-grandmothers in their primes.
Will you do a follow-up video about the effect of the post-war period on gender roles outside of the white middle class? That would be really interesting!
At least there *was* a middle class. The regressive Right has no means or intention to bring back the conditions that even made it seem kind of *appealing* to live by 'playing house' like that.
segregation was still a thing during that period. lynchings were still a thing. society was a complete dumpster fire back then. no one should ever look back on it with anything but pure disgust
When the house wife is shouting out her angst in the cushion in her villa surrounded by a huge lawn in Suburbia, nobody can hear her scream...
Another fascinating video , My Thanks
New video! I always get a little dopamine rush when I see a new video from this channel!
Another great vid i was like come on say something about the Stones song! And then you did! Cheering from my couch like someone scored a goal! Keep up the good work!
Post-war America sounds bloody awful.
At least, it later gave us the Simpsons who were in a way a direct critique of this sanitized, bland, perfect, detached from reality 1950s television family.
@@Game_Hero Yeah, but satire alone doesn't make up for the lives derailed for the worse. Or the idiots who mistake this era for an idealized world. Sadly we still have plenty of the latter...
@@nomobobby Sure, very much true. But at least we now have a popular influential voice to pull their pants down instead of silently watching them monopolizing the discussion. In fact, this era of television of 1950s sitcoms would have continued on to influence people (as they did in the 1980s with things like the Cosby show and Family Ties) if the Simpsons didn't smash this whole mentality to pieces and reshaped it in its own image.
I remember reading about people (including the creator, Matt Groening) saying this show helped them cope in some way for what they had to live during this time, by saying for the first time on television that they weren't broken for thinking so.
It is. That’s why we don’t want to go back
@@williamerazo3921 Sadly, there is not enough people agreeing with you on this.
Women fight so hard everyday for everything worth fighting for. I thank my mother with my every breath that she was never content to be a housewife or a dottering stepford smiler. She's strong, intelligent and brave and everything I have I owe her as her son.
Welp I didn’t think it was that bad but it was THAT bad. I kinda wished we got a further insight into the non-suburban housewife as a contrast instead of a reference at the end. I hope there’s enough material that will warrant a further episode. Also speaking of POC women, magazines like Ebony and Jet might be a place to look at if this goes further. We had our own manners columns too.
Thanks for the video and the Channel. It’s been a GREAT insight over the past few weeks because as they say past is prologue.
A great video about one of the most important post war topics!
Interesting video
20th Century: Women's rights!
21st Century: What is a Woman?
21st Century: Republicans play dumb about eveyrthing, use disinformation about trans people to enslave everyone to insane theocracy and exploitation.
People, don't forget that both French and Italian women got the right of vote after the 2nd world war only, regardless of the previous governments of these 2 nations (a liberal republic and a dictature in France, fascism in Italy).
France has passed voting rights for women in 1944, during ww2 and after the liberation
@@the_feedle Paris came back a free city from September 1944 on, after the operations Overlord and Envil.
The nazis moved back from France to Germany in that year, so the war on the continental France was over in 1944 when the law passed.
Funniest call to smash the bell button I have heard yet. :)
Would like to see a video on sexuality in the cold war, in particular the Soviet Union.
Should be fun :P
As a free market capitalist-I am shocked by how much men (and many women) viewed working women. Why would anyone want to prevent women from joining construction-based work especially if they can do it? As someone who wants a healthy America-why on earth would anyone want women not to do physical activities? Who cares if they build muscle-thats what happens anyway when you... y know... workout!
because of all the ideas of communism like the right to free schools, owning a home, universal health care , job protection. is a crime against the freedom of capitalism to be able to exploit humans
Universal healthcare first existed in the Soviet Union in 1918. In 1948, Article 25 of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights (UDHR) stipulates that health is a human right that cannot be capitalized or given a price tag. And after 100 years,All developed countries have universal healthcare, even in poor countries like Cuba. but except the USA which still puts a price tag on health. for the reason that this is Universal healthcare is a crime of communism
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Obviously, the reason more women took tranquilizers is that men deal with frustration-much of it also caused by sexism-by increasing alcohol intake and bursting out with anger-including by means of physical and sexual abuse towards the wife. In fact, the desire for the maintenance of the traditional gender roles is also a symptom.
9:10 - Yeah - now "liberated women" are achieving new peaks of drug taking.
Mrs. Cleaver ain't bad.
Right now, there is a cold war on women by these misogynistic RUclipsrs who need to be banned from this platform.
Very interesting movie about women in workforce in wwii :Rosie the riveter. And the use of medical science to keep them in jobs and leave the jobs after war ended
when will you make a video on the bangladesh crisis?
This is very sad for me. I'm appalled at how Americans presented the women of the Soviet Union and how they over- objectified and infanticized women even in those days.
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To be fair sedative prescriptions for women vs men, women are significantly more than men as of today.
Sadly, sedatives are barely prescribed in the West to either genders anymore.
@@KratomFlavoredAdidas What do you mean? benzodiazepines are prescribed all the time, like xanax.
@@jonathankessler7436 yes, but much less than they used to
@@jonathankessler7436 only to well off people. just because rich people do drugs constantly doesnt mean everyone else does. stfu. american men consume more meth/amphetamines than anyone else on earth but im not constantly bringing that up to call you meth heads
Fundamentally the point that US society was extremely authoritarian and misogynistic in the 1950s was already gotten in the video at 6:00, however this point is further discussed towards the 9:00 minute mark, staying on this fundamental fact for so long seems unnecessary and entails the death of subtlety. Overall this lessens the video, as by doing this you thereby entail less time for the ramifications of this time period, as well the flow of the video.
I pushed the bell button. The thumb up button says everything is fine, but still won't make me a sandwich.
I swear to god, the amount of misogynistic and reactionary comments this got already is just crazy
I'm well aware that this is the nature of the inter and it's full of idiots but i have expected better of the history nerds community
Open your eyes. Why would those who know history think that women's 'liberation' was a bad thing? Think about it. Don't just initiate pre-programmed default response. THINK for once.
@@DespotofAntrim it's funny kuz most people who know hisotry who are not termally online edgelordgs don't think that, it's only in the online sphere
It came with a lot of pros and cons. I'm sure there are some edgelords, but there's nothing "reactionary" about pointing that out. Both men and women are suffering their own set of issues caused by postmodern social revolutions, which includes the unsustainable nuke family structure
@@kadarrosa9926 Because* history* you might want to work on spelling.
"I EXPECTED BETTER OF THIS COMMUNITY!!1!" Ok, Karen Rosa
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Your thumbnail pic is of Australian women during WW2…
The 1950s was cringe in many ways.
Make America Great Again 🤮
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yeah, the scripted life of a 50s household wasn't meant to last really. let's go back to 1910 lol
@@destubae3271 or we could like, live in the present and stop pretending europeans were gods who could do no wrong. in fact, lets ki1l and enslave everyone who thinks eurocentric culture is cool. since thats the attitude they have held against leftists for so long. its only nature to have an equal and opposite reaction correct?
He cites the statistic that 1 in 20 women were taking a psychotropic drug in 1956 as evidence of their dissatisfaction with the traditional female role of the time. Yet, according to the CDC, currently 1 in 7 women are taking similar drugs. What does that tell us?
that doctors prescribe anti depressants to anything with a pulse and that private insurance enables over prescription of everything to maximize profits. that american healthcare has always been 100% fraudulent and doctors were prescribing CIGARETTE SMOKING back then. i've never seen or heard of real people getting adequate healthcare in america. by real people i mean those who will be worked to death before age 30 because they werent born into financial comfort.
Not as much really? While yes, the use of psychotropic drugs has increase, the seasons why women use them and not entirely the same then compared to now.
In the 50s and 60s the had different reasons, such as childhood trauma, or poverty, but one that catches our eye is the so called "housewife sindrome".
A noticeable amount of housewives during that period felt unsatisfied with their lives, unlike all the women in soap operas, who were pictured as living the perfect life, which can be contrasted with the social pressure they actually faced, having to maintain an image of perfection in front of friends and neighbors for the sake of their family. This made the real American housewife trapped and lonely, even with their children and husband, which they even considered partly to blame for their situation, thinking their marriage was the problem.
Another reason is the absence of control of their bodies, were society in general thought women had to have as many kids as they could maintain.
Nowadays the main reasons are different. The mental health issues women tend to have is depression, anxiety, eating disorders or PTSD to name a few.
The main reason, a part of biological reasons, such as the amount of production of certain hormones compared to men, is the presence of pass abuse (mental, physical or sexual), their economical or social situation,substance abuse or even the influence of social media.
But in married women another important reason for problems is that they are forced to do the housework and work to maintain their families, since a lot of them depend on the income of both partners. This can be shone for example in pew research, where it is shone than an overwhelming amount of the house work and childrearing in the US is done by women.
I would also like to add that with the destigmatization of mental health disorders has caused that diagnosing and prescribing those pills is a lot more common too.
So to summarize: the use of pills has increased, but the reasons are different, compared to the social pressures in the women before because of their position as housewives, women in 2022 have to face an economic crisis, poor stability due to that and the pandemic as well as different wars, the présure of carrying almost all the housework and working outside, and the destigmatization of mental health.
@@dantemaquiavelli9039 the point is this: the increased use of such drugs among women suggests that their mental health has declined since being "liberated" and "empowered".
@@t6v5c2 cringe
Keep off of sociology and back to the cold war
Sociology is an integral part of the cold war, history is achieved in other ways than big men fighting off in wars.
@@Game_Hero I disagree
The presenter adopts a supercilious, mocking tone while while describing social conventions of the 60s Could he also discuss the use of sedatives and antidepressants by todays women and throw in a few rib tickling jests about the marriage failure rate.
Women were prescribed way more of those in the 60s to deal with the anxiety of conforming to strict hierarchy. Doctors pretty much don't prescribe sedatives anymore because they're afraid of losing their license.
@@KratomFlavoredAdidas I think you’re talking outside your area of expertise. Benzodiazepines like Valium are prescribed in abundance.
Women are the main users of antidepressants today
In the UK into the 70s, beating your wife, moderately, was a private matter.
Moderately went pretty far but not permanent damage.
Traditional Christian Values.
The 'marriage failure rate' is actually statistically much worse where the right-wing social and political and religious conventions get their way the *most.*
@@OllamhDrab How could it be worse if currently more than half of marriage contracts are broken. ……mainly by women who walk away with cash and prizes for having done so
I actually think the 50s and 60s and 70s Soviet women had a different kind of grace, with femininity sans excessive make up / excessive western style grooming. The looks of the 60s / 70s Soviet and eastern bloc sportswomen in particular those at volleyball and gymnastics certainly are legendary and they defined beauty.
in 1990 70% of Soviet doctors were women
I love me some snu snu
Can you make a video about Israel during the cold war from 1949 to 1991?
What is Israel ?
I think they do, but focused on certain events or time periods.
SILENCE! you and @Dee_Nastee have no say in the matter
@@theoutlook55 Yeah but ehhh
Bob Ross the happy painter is on RUclips for free
Can you do a video about Jamaica from it's pre and post independence, the impact of Bob Marley, and how the cold war affected its politics which lead up to the violent 1980 election which change course of the island
I remember an episode of Cold Case about a Tomboy who is sent to a mental hospital for dressing like a boy.
I remember that episode, she just wanted to be herself and during that time, it was terrible. Cold case always made me sad.
Bob Ross!!! 💜
great channel! thanks!
Growing up in the 70's I remember the hype on tv about wives, but in my experience I never met anyone like the Brady Bunch in real life. More like the Simpsons. Without the jokes.
This makes me think back to the "Wendys" commercial in the 80's.... "Day vare" "Svim vare"... etc! lol!!!
Starting at 13:45 has happened to me also, end every other machinist or tool maker, I have ever known.
The world is on a steady track towards hell because of the evil done during these wars-
I think you can watch these pictures on Jake Westbrooks channel
Damn the first half part resembles nowadays china so much
Can We please not call the US "America". America is a continent.
Nope, and were not gonna debate. I'm a American citizen, not a United statesian. Mexico and Canada don't have American in there countries names. It is redundant, and usually this debate starts with weird hispanics who care about it for some reason (i'm also hispanic and they can stick it up there ass lol) who cares how it makes you feel no one was thinking about it like that anyway.
Isn't that kinda like asking to stop calling Australia by its name as it's also the name of the continent? Besides people refer to the continent in different ways to distinguish them, like either North America and South America as separate continents, or simply The Americas.
I think you are overstating the importance of the Cold War for the subject of this episode. With that being said, I'm a loyal follower of your show and never miss one. Thank you for your work.
Why would he be overstating it? Intelligent people back up their assertions.
Best ad ever.
Based Soviets.
Why does the border region of Ukra¡ne, Belaru$ and the Federation
looks like that (so weird).
The area of Klintsy looks like a salient/corridor. Why is that bulge like that?
From what I know The region was initially a part of the Ukrainian people's republic with the historic name Starodubshchyna(after the town of Starodub located there) and had majority Ukrainian and Belarusian population. It was cut off from the Ukrainian SSR in 1926, few years after the Bolsheviks conquered Ukraine and the USSR was established. I don't know why exactly this decision was made but similar stuff happened in many other regions of the USSR where the areas bordering Russian FSSR and national SSRs such as Ukrainian or Belarusian that had majority non-russian population were cut off from the national republics and incorporated into Russia with the following discrimination, deportation and assimilation of the native population into the Russian nation
I guess the main reason was to eliminate subjugated nations but also suspecting some military reasoning(e.g closer access to Kyiv) for this decision though this isn't all that clear.
Could generally follow geographical separation between the Ukrainian steepe and the forest in the North.
Chinese women got fair in the Mao era, but now Chinese women are losing their rights because of capitalism and Confucian culture. Not long ago, my partner and I watched a documentary about North Korea made by RT. I was surprised to see that North Korean women can send their children to the nursery six months later.
I think it will especially get worse when next generation retired women’s mom or in-law mom is working so no one can take care of the baby/children when the women still working. It will adjust like the west sending babies to day care. Every society goals is to get as much economic performance as possible without regard to longer term consequences (less and less children).
@John L.：Why should a mother or mother-in-law take care of children? There are men. The Chinese must change their point of view. Many Chinese use children to bully women. Men must pay feelings, actions and money for their children.
Here is an open question, has lives for the average American women gotten better, or worse since then? How about the average American man? I would argue that for every positive result in our lives since then, there have been disadvantages too. Quality of life is definitely not linear. It's all about perspective and/or perception
Overall though, it has been a clear win, I'd say for both sexes too. In enhancing autonomy, economic safety, and more, it has made individuals better off.
@@theoutlook55 What are you on because I want some of it.
@@theoutlook55 Hmm....
I would argue that from a psychological perspective, our general mental health has declined significantly, especially for women. I would imagine there is a multitude of reasons for this, but regardless the result is the same. One specific reason I will name is expectations of.... everything in life. We as a society are living longer and are less happy in the time we have.
Things got a lot better since then. The fact that Reaganomics eventually made it worse all round for everyone notwitshanding, and of course the Right tries to backlash against womens' and other rights every time their failed policies need scapegoats and somewhere else to direct the resentment they create. They demand they drag us back to the bad parts of the past but have no intention or way to actually gloss it over with prosperity and consumerism and promises of still better for the kids, this century.
I say after the 1960s, both women and men came closer to being equals (and I mean the unmarried ones). Married however probably took longer because of the social norms being challenged at the time. Today, there are some jobs where they kept the occupation roles aimed for men such as construction but I could be wrong here since women can apply for those construction jobs but I hardly see them work those jobs as far as I know.
So millions of women went to work in factories working 6 or seven days of long shifts both day and night under loud dirty and dangerous conditions at the same time having to maintain their homes and raise their children without the help of the husbands who were far away...Don't you think maybe the role of suburban housewife and homemaker looked pretty damn good?
We can be proud American women stepped up and made an indispensable contribution to the war effort, but the ideal of domestic life that prevailed in the 50's and 60's was more of a reaction to wartime conditions by both men and women who endured it, and probably not even slightly a result of propaganda
nothing in eurocentric culture happens naturally. its all forced onto people because in reality, no one with a functioning brain enjoys the dumb and wasteful ways of eurocentric culture.
Women
Roe and Casey will be overruled. Thank the Lord:
Yeah thank "lord" for make certain sections of humanity "sub human".
You're literally rock hard to take rights away from people. Why do you live in America? Makes no sense.
@@TheBucketSkill there is no right to abortion found in the Constitution. If the framers believed it as such, they would have included it. If the American people wanted to include it, they would have amended the Constitution to provide such a right, and are still able to do so in the future.
@@gumbyshrimp2606 By your logic, nobody has the right to public education, healthcare, or even Court redress for wrongful convictions because it's not in the Constitution...
@@theotherohlourdespadua1131 I would very much not be surprised if the answer to this was "so what?" or "yes, of course". The American Right has very strange views about basic civilisation.
That Pyrex ad at 8:35 is actually from a 1947 issue of Australian Women's Weekly, not an American publication. pyrex.cmog.org/sites/pyrex.cmog.org/files/Mar01-Rakow_1000145156.jpg
Of course, the internet is full of examples of ads like this, showcasing a "traditional home" with women as homemakers subservient to their husbands, so the point remains the same.