Also people forget that he received Kyuubi chakra more than the rest of the ninja. He has a bit of Kyuubi and sixth paths chakra by the end of the war arc. Obito took his chakra but Hagaromo didn't😊
There also the implied reason is cause of Kakashi's talk with Sakumo Hatake. He finally got to resolve things between himself and his father, which was one of the larger burdens in his life. Chakra is implied to be both a mental thing and a physical thing, so the talk with his father lifted that burden he had, which allowed him to access more of his power
Yeah, this was always my impression. Kakashi was an ultra talented ninja, but he had the two mental burdens of his father and his squad. After one of them was resolved, he was able to do a ton more. After some stuff with Obito was resolved, he was able to use the perfect susanoo. His journey kind of felt like dealing with his own past, and he got stronger whenever he was able to do that.
I wish this was officially the case. Never really considered how much his talk with his dad effected him. Maybe it's a case of show don't tell on Kishi's part but an official statement would've been nice. Could aslo tie into the novel statements of his Kage self being stronger because after the war all his mental nerfs are gone.
Personal Theory is that the closer Kakashi is to Obito, physically closer that is, the less taxing the sharing becomes, it's a little weird but i think the eyes "know" when they are close to eachother and they like start to fuel each other, which explains why kakashi unlocks the perfect susano immediatly after gaining both eyes, the weird "boost thanks to proximity" effect the eyes had reached its peak
Omg I really like this idea. I always loved the idea that their is some resonance affect between obito and his eyes. Thus Kakashi and Obito. Because in the rin death flash backs we see that obito sees things through his eye in Kakashi, and when Kakashi awakened the mankegkeo he was in very close proximity to obito awakening the mangekio. I loved the idea that the chakra between the sharigan eyes would resonate with each other sometimes
Makes sense, remember obito kinda saw thru that eye in kakashis head when he chidoris rin. So they’re stil “connected” somehow. And it was once he got close to them
That’s a really great theory, when we see Obito and Kakashi both awakening the MS at the same exact time it kinda plants the idea that they’re linked somehow. Something about the link between the eyes and the kamui dimension being more stable (thus easier to open the portal) when the eyes are close would be a good enough explanation
Kakashi got his sharingan from Obito at age 12, and he was still exhausted from using it at age 31, so in the 19 years of using it, he made LESS progress than in the 3 years of the time skip. Now that's just bad writing.
I do think Mental amps exist. For me I always assumed that Kakashi was sort of this Shinobi where he was mentally held back by a lot of things and that affected his power as well he had the power to be the strongest in the village possibly with his Raikiri and peak potential but he was held back by so many things. I think after meeting his Father in death some of those went away and slowly and slowly during the war lots of these regrets and mental things just boost him and that along with his training and methods I think is likely why he was so much stronger which is maybe how you can explain the Sasuke thing he still is like held back a bit as he probably doesn't want to kill Sasuke even if he feels he has to.
@@kamitaku4548 That’s different though. When good shows need character to be stronger. They give a good explanation and makes it feel reasonable and rewarding. Here it’s just asspull and the fan base has to make up headcanons to make sense of it because Kishimoto didn’t try
As a og Naruto fan idk y but I found it completely ridiculous and hilarious at how strong Kakashi was when I was watching what he was doing I was like "oh so we really doin this like nobody gonna notice" lmaaao 😂😂😂
I do love your explanation, but I also remember that Kakashi stopped training for a certain period of time, so when he finally got back into training, it’s like his Body was playing catch up. Kakashi likely could’ve always reached that War Arc powerlevel earlier had he stayed consistent. Heck, somehow, Sakumo was stronger than the Sanin for some reason.
@@DygoKnight Kakashi was strong but in the Pain arc he didn't seem much different than in the Hidan&Kakuzu arc, and definitely not Sannin level. He was shocked that Jiraiya could go against the six paths of Pain at the same time, he died against Tendo and Ashura even though he was helped by the entire the Akimichi clan. Jiraiya without an arm fought against the six paths of Pain and could defeat one of them in a frontal fight. Pain also said that if Jiraiya had knowledge from the start he could win the fight, but if Kakashi went against all the six paths of Pain he would have been low-diffed at that time.
@@dANIEL-31-03correction..He never fought 6 paths of pain he fought 3 of the weakest pains ..As soon as All 6 showed up he lost his arm then his throat then he died ..
Chakara is made of physical and spiritual energy after his rebirth he had the spiritual nailed down but his physical side only came after his training the war arc and his sasuke feat was onl5 because he set out to the five kage summit just after Konoha was blown up even Tsunade was still asleep
The issue is he should of gone blind. One he wasn't an Uchiha and two he didn't have hashi cells. Obito's spam was because it would heal his eyes and would be less if a drain.
Love the vid bro, just one thing, the 4 Tails cloak Naruto Orochimaru fought is way stronger than the V2 jinchurikis Kakashi fought, remember that Kurama with half of his chakra was able to defeat 5 full bijuu at the same Time
Thank you! Idk though, Kurama only defeated those 5 Bijus because it was working with Naruto, and it also had help from Bee and the 8 tails. I think those version 2's are pretty relative to the one Orochimaru fought.
You have to take into consideration Naruto's relatively weak base form and the fact that they all had a boost from the Sharingan and Rinnegan. I don't have any opinion on them vs 4 tails Naruto tho. If I had to choose, I would prolly take 4 tails Naruto ig
Those jinchurikis were able to put a preasure on KCM Naruto and Bee in base. Hell, Bee had to go full on Eight Tails and destroy the entire forest just to briefly incapacitate them. Meanwhile, Kakashi fought them when they were in V2 (and while he himself has been somewhat tired already). No matter how you put it, it’s a ridiculous feat.
The Bijuu and the Jinchuriki also got a big buff in the War Arc because some of them were known for being extremely weak and yet they all seemed somewhat relative to Bee and Naruto.
The answer could be all theories at the same time: 1- Chrakra is spiritual energy combined with physical energy, so Kakashi training off-screen and getting closures to some of his traumas may have increased his chrakra reserves 2- His body became more adapted to the sharingan over time after using it so much and especially after dying using it and getting brought back to life 3- Some sort of mental amp gained by fighting Obito to not only protect everyone but also to protect the memories of the Obito he remembered as a kid definitively helped him to go beyond his own limits 4- It is implied that, since those are Obito's eyes, the closer they are the stronger they get because with proximity their chrakra would start to resonate (theory made by someone here in the comments)
I'm pretty sure you can increase chakra reserves through training even after you grow up. Also, I used to feel like mental amps are kinda BS, but they're built so deep into the narrative that I just think of them as part of the power system at this point
I think because after the pain arc once he died and got resurrected the eye was also new with no stress to it and he has used it a lot of times before pain arc so using the new "mangekyo" during the war arc essentially using the amount of kamui's he has used in his whole life in just that few days of the war arc
Kakashi was already an adult in the beginning of Naruto. Most of the tolerance to the Sharingan would have been built much earlier than that. Unless he took steroids which would explain the enormous progress that he made after he was already a veteran.
My 2 cents is that it’s obvious kakashi is getting stronger in every arc of the show if you read between the lines, and it’s hinted multiple times by characters that he still has insane potential. (Pain, kakashi himself to jiraiya, etc) The way we understand the show now is that battling with the sharingan makes you stronger. Your chakra levels increase and so do their potency. His jump was so big because if you notice he was able to use mangekyo quicker and more often against pain than against anyone before. So of course it only figures the next jump and mastery of the mangekyo sharingan would result in the biggest power jump. That alongside constant chakra reups by the nine tails, and it’s less crazy than it seems on first watch.
What's the name of the OST at 3:50? It's the exact same OST that plays right before Itachi smites Deidara, where he's ranting and raving about his art? I never knew the name of it
He received an great amount of supportive chakra by Naruto and Kurama. That allowed him to spam Kamui without getting quickly drained of dying like in Pain's invasion. But, without that outer source of chakra, he'd low his reserves to the point of exhaustion like when he fought Obito in Kamui dimension and got there for a while. After losing the sharingan he got so vulnerable that if it weren't for Obito he would have died early.
@@sachamarzullo I wasn't referring to the Naruto games, I was referring to the time he got that chakra. He was spamming his abilities way before he got that extra chakra.
Arbitrary explanation is that after dying and returning Kakashi's Chakra reserves increased like in Shaman King where characters intentionally clinicly kill themselves and come back to increase Furyoku
I’ve always liked the idea that because kakashi was so depressed that his eye was always draining him of chakra. It wasn’t a normal depression because the eye connected him to óbito and because they both shared the same sad history together. His óbito eye felt the deep sadness from both him and óbito. And the eye kind of hurt him. He also never used the eye or chidori free of pain. I think it was a self limiting technique created by the eye itself where he unconsciously allowed the eye to drain him. because of meeting with his Dad, team 7, and realizing óbito was alive, he could finally accept/embrace the eye and use it without feeling pain. And it stopped draining him of chakra. So all in all, once he stopped being depressed, he was able to tap into its full potential and his chakra increased.
For the same reason why Naruto is so strong in the Pain arc: Because the war arc is a Kakashi Arc. The main antagonist is his villain counterpart (Obito). His character arc is closed with the conclusion of the arc, not Naruto (closed after the Pain Arc) and Sasuke (closed after the final fight against Naruto). His rival play an important role during the arc (Gai).
The simplest explanation I've been able to conger up myself has always been since his sharingan is shared with Obito his ability to use it and burden of it is shared and the closer he is with the origin of the eye cuts the costs of using it in half or more. So the stronger Obito becomes the easier the sharingan use is for Kakashi as well as the drain it historically took. It's just alot less bc Obito is in very close proximity. That an pairing with how consistent Kakashi trains also helps with this
No, you are right, mental amp is the thing I suppose. After he died he finally solved his problem with his father. After he got revived he slowly gain that belief in himself that he needed all along. Yeah, I know, this contradicts with his short fight with Sasuke, but I think after he talked to Sakumo, got revived, saw what achievement Naruto got against Pain - his mentality got stronger and overall he started to use his skills including the sharingan and MS much better. And only one thing was left with his mentality - he thought that he failed Sasuke, that it was his fault that he didn’t manage to save him from his darkness. During their confrontation he struggled, cause his only solution was to stop him by killing him. However after that moment he understood that it was wrong, because Naruto didn’t want to give up on Sasuke. And Kakashi finally reinforced his belief in Naruto. He was supporting this belief tremendously during the war ark, especially while he was fighting Obito. That’s why his mentality was on its peak. His unwavering belief in Naruto allowed him to believe in himself. I think mental buff that he received with Sakumo and Naruto really gave him more power to be in harmony within himself therefore there was no distractions in his head. And he used his body, mind and skills much more efficiently since then. But it’s my theory, my head canon.)
I heard one theory that since chakra is created from both physical and spiritual energy, his spiritual energy (meaning his mental health in this case) improved greatly from the closure he received from meeting his father after he died fighting Pain and eventually when he reconciled with Obito during the war
There is a lot of plot holes with kakshi and obito with the sharnigan the fact they both spam the absolute shit out of Kamui and didn't go blind in one eye is weird to say the least could be since Kakashi isn't a uchia that he doesn't get the draw backs from the Kamui being used to much hence going blind but Obito used it way more then he did. As for kakshi seeming leagues higher then he was before the war arc he saw the battle between sasuke and naruto and knew that he had fallen behind but as for how he grew more chakra and had way better stamina i think he trained in the eight inner gates to help improve his stamina and chakra is easily explained the Byakugan can increase your chakra flow he could had his flow of chakra increased that way we never seen how long that last or how much of a improvement it gives but its a interesting thought
One part of this maybe because when kakashi used kamui or sharingan in general more and more he became more oficient with it. Which means it would spend less chakra
Kakashi is the “Mr. World wide” of Naruto the way I look at this he was always supposed to be THAT strong they even wanted him to become hokage post pain arc so I think this makes sense it always seems like his reputation and actual strength never made sense so I think Kishimoto just unleashed the Kakakshi we should have gotten sooner and stoped holding him back and nerf him.
1. Because people master their techniques eventually. And kakashi is a fast learner 2. Because kyubi recharged him and i think he also got kyubi cloak again later like the rest
its possible that during the war, constantly pushing his body and gaining knowledge and experience could have been the factor. Also when young kakashi & guy were together kakashi was almost out of chakra and suddenly he gained more and was able to use chidori to cut lightning jutsu. Dont forget how sauske got better for the chunin exams after training with kakashi. We saw Choji got stronger during the war after overcoming mental barrier. So its possible he got an increase in both his physical & spiritual energy , by pushing his body and from gaining more knowledge & experience.
His used 3 or 4 kamui when he fought deidara the last kamui which he used to despair deidara's blow that blow was Huge if see that ep again. And also ig when pain pined his shoulder it sucked some of his chakra at the beginning of the pain fight.
In part 1 kakashi was out of shape, he's been lazy. When mountain climbing he stated that his body was sluggish and climbing shouldn't be so hard. The reason he was so much stronger in part 2 is because he got back in shape and got more efficiënt with his chakra. He got stronger little by little because of training until his death. Then when he came back to life he was mentally more stable because he had closure with his dad in the afterlife which means better chakra and thus he get's a power up. He keeps training and gets stronger and stronger. If you ask me part 1 and much of part 2 kakashi was nerfed, after coming back from death is him as strong as he should have been being the prodigical son of a legendary super ninja.
that's because Kishimoto's goal seemed to be to make Team 7 as overpowered as possible. He was going: "Naruto is not strong enough? I'll just make a new character and say Naruto is his reincarnation, then that new character will give Naruto op powers"
i remember kakashi faint after using 2 or 3 kamui during war arc, so he take some rest to recover, also get full chakra refill by kurama. He can't become blind because his sharingan is chakra connected to the Obito one.
Plothole: because kishimoto didn't fully picture the power level scale since the beginning. In part 1 of the story all characters are way less powerful, just look at the fight between Orochimaru with Edo 1st and 2nd hokage against 3rd Hokage: that fight is laughable compared to the massive world-shaping battles of late shippuuden. Kishimoto just didn't imagine his own story would have required such growth in power level
this is just a theory, but maybe when Kakashi was brought back with Rinne Rebirth he was brought back more.....durable? idk. the rinnegan honestly seems like it can do whatever it wants sometimes lmao
I would like to combine DygoKnights explanation with the following: Chakra is made by fusing physical and mental energy (I dont remember what they are called in the series). It is explained early on that one can gain more chakra by training your body, getting stronger and by getting smarter/improving mentally. When Kakashi went to that purgatory-like after life and met his dad I think that may have significantly improved his mental health thus increasing his chakra. It is explained in the anime that Kakashi was struggling with his mental health/PTSD for a while, so I think him improving his mental health by making peace with his daddy may have significantly upped his chakra levels. Also while fighting in the war, he may have snacked on those chakra recovery pills AND there is bound to be something like support Ninja in universe who can lend him some chakra, so I'd like to think that he support-chakra boosted off-screen and was snacking on those chakra recovery pills. Sry for rambling, have a nice day fellow weebz.
It was meeting his father and resolving the issues with him. It removed a mental burden he had felt. This is an Eastern cultivation story. mental state is 100% your power. It is even explicitly stated that experiences, and such effect your chakra levels. MS and even EMS don’t give a person a boost apart from their abilities, it suffering thou the mental trauma that provides the chakra boost.
Kishimoto should have made him as strong as his War arc self from the beginning of Shippuden. May be a little bit weaker so no Kamui spam but won't run out of chakra easily. It wouldn't even change the direction of the plot. He was just jobbing unnecessarily to characters who's power levels later became irrelevant because of power creep
Who did kakashi job to in part 2 ? He defeated 30% itachi, blew deidras arm off, he blitz'd nine tails rage mode naruto and put a tag on him to control kurama then he fought and helped kill hidan and kakazu, had a close fight with pain and then almost killed sasuke if naruto didnt hols him back. He only lost to pain
@@DygoKnight and one more important thing to ask many people say that he the original user of kotoamtsukami that’s why he didn’t have a cool-down of 10year or something like when kakashi uses Kamui it takes a lot of chakra I know obito have hashirama cells and stuff like that and please cover a hypothetical SHISUI too
Couple things: Plot - But the opposite of how people are describing it. The plot early in Naruto needed Kakashi to be weaker, ANBU Kakashi would have murdered a lot of the early enemies in like 2 secs. Medical Ninja: Off screen Kakashi probably got healing. Healing jutsu restores some of their chakra. Training: Kakashi stopped being lazy and started training again intensely. Also, worth mentioning Kakashi got much better at using Kamui which shorten the length of time he needed it active.
Actually, slight correction. You can absolutely increase the amount of chakra you produce. Chakra is just Physichal and Spirtual Energy combined. So working out, taking stimulants, studying, meditation, experience; all of those increase either your mental or physichal energy and in turn, increase how much chakra you can produce. It's actually part of the reason Guy's 8 Gates are so powerful compared to Dai's, because he has an insane amount of physichal energy to produce an insane amount of chakra in turn.
I think there are times when we should just accept that there are plotholes in the stories we see. Plotholes that even a very kind and creative mind can't strech enough to find an explanation.
I think it would be good if kakashi died before war arc it could help other characters in developing and it would be a heart filled movement seeing all older generations is dying
I saw a lot of videos about this topic, and it's crazy to me that nobody ever considers the most obvious part: In the war arc there were tons and tons of medical ninjas healing and replenishing chakra to every important character. Come on guys....Kakashi probably got replenished several times off camera.
The reason why kakashi is so much stronger in shippuuden than normal, and then again way stronger in war arc is because he is THE paragon. So his strength needs to be relative to main characters. And since Naruto and Sasuke became God level, he needs to be at least comparable.
He just refine every jutsu he use even his MS. Remember that when he train naruto to use is chakra properly and refine it. for example naruto use a large a mount of chakra just to use kagebunshin or rasengan. kakashi can use that jutsu with a minimal amount of chakra because he can control his chakra and refine it properly. thats the reason why thru the series kakashi chakra reserve is got bigger because he keeps on refining his chakra control and use a little more chakra to his kamui in war arc. Unlike the start of shippuden when he first time to use the kamui. he can’t control his chakra properly because that is his first time to use it. but thru the series he started to refine his chakra and use properly his kamui with a minimum amount of chakra.
My favorite theory goes that Kakashi was always that strong but due to trauma he nerfed himself. Much like how Superman nerfs himself to keep from killing everything except Kakashi did it due to his loss. Everytime he used the Sharingan he probably thought of Obito which would limit his focus. When he used the MS he probably thought of the day he killed Rin and that would also not only limit him but perhaps he used more chakra when he had the mental limits on in order to potentially kill himself to atone for Rin. In the War arc he has to confront Obito and I believe facing that reality helped him get over his blocks. That and he most likely trained to use it in more after the Pain arc. My own headcannon and no. This is not my theory but one I like. I believe Swagkage came up with it based on how Minato went from dominating to literally being too slow to dodge Obito after finding out that Obito is the Masked Man.
In the War Arc, it's not so much that Kakashi got a mental amp as it was him removing a mental block in his psyche. Keep in mind, this was not only a ninja who in the Academy was using Earth Style jutsu, but he "lost" his comrade and his love interest in quick succession as a child soldier. Also keep in mind, they stated that Team 7 was the first team Kakashi ever got to lead: Every other team they tried to have Kakashi lead failed the bell "test" (it was designed for the aspiring genin to fail automatically) but they each failed the true test of Kakashi. Where did Kakashi get the idea for his test? From none other than his Sensei, the 4th Hokage, as well as from his "lost" comrade, Obito. I see it in the same way as if Nagato got a mental block: If he had the Rinnegan but wasn't aware of it's powers, he'd have access to all 5 basic chakra natures. That alone would still make him stronger than most characters in the series, but it would still put him below any Uchiha clan members, and a far cry from the "Shinobi God" that he was trying to become. A mental amp can push you past your limits for sure (See Rock Lee versus Gaara), but I think as a pure matter of comparison, a mental block can be far more detrimental than a mental amp can be helpful.
He should be able to singly handle pain since he received bijuu chakra 4 times the amp makes him stronger that allowed him to spam kamui more frequently so he should be able to take out the akatsuki
Stronger, but still got washed at every turn. I thought a teacher would be something to inspire, especially in war ethics; considering what kind of atmosphere the show represents. I don't call him Kakashi. I call him Captain Struggle.
Both of the theories can be true at the same time. His ability to Kamui was enhanced by death by over using Kamui, then mental anguish of having to kill another comrade in Sasuke to protect another comrade in Sakura which would be a mental conflict for Kakashi which would cause his spiritual energy to be less. Charka is a balance between physical and spiritual energy, so less spiritual energy means less Charka so a mental de-amp instead of a mental amp. The other theory is an extension of your calcification theory, for the leg to heal and be stronger it has to heal correctly and this can take 6 months to year. During this period the leg could be usable it is much weaker. So the fight with Sasuke, Kakashi was weaker since his spirit and body were still healing from the pain arc, since it was maybe 2 to 3 weeks after his death, judging by how much of the city is rebuilt. Where the war arc was was an undisclosed amount of time, in the anime, since the city was rebuilt completely rebuilt. Just as an example it took Japan 4 and half years to recover from the 2011 earthquake. Yes, I know it did not take 4 and half years for the city hidden in the leaf to recover from Pain, but say it took a year. Meaning that Kakashi had enough time to recover.
More head cannon than theory and less interesting but it is possible that in between fights his chakra was being replenished, I don’t fully understand how healing works in Naruto but if it’s possible to restore your chakra in between fights I’m sure our characters took it off screen I mean there was a bunch of medics out with them 🤔
the only right answer is, that the author had to make him stronger. Thats it, the question is answered. He was made stronger, just because he needed to be stronger for the war. Things like this happen often in manga.
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Also people forget that he received Kyuubi chakra more than the rest of the ninja. He has a bit of Kyuubi and sixth paths chakra by the end of the war arc. Obito took his chakra but Hagaromo didn't😊
There also the implied reason is cause of Kakashi's talk with Sakumo Hatake. He finally got to resolve things between himself and his father, which was one of the larger burdens in his life. Chakra is implied to be both a mental thing and a physical thing, so the talk with his father lifted that burden he had, which allowed him to access more of his power
Yeah, this was always my impression. Kakashi was an ultra talented ninja, but he had the two mental burdens of his father and his squad. After one of them was resolved, he was able to do a ton more. After some stuff with Obito was resolved, he was able to use the perfect susanoo. His journey kind of felt like dealing with his own past, and he got stronger whenever he was able to do that.
Interesting theory. I like it.
I wish this was officially the case. Never really considered how much his talk with his dad effected him. Maybe it's a case of show don't tell on Kishi's part but an official statement would've been nice. Could aslo tie into the novel statements of his Kage self being stronger because after the war all his mental nerfs are gone.
Not to mention that his resolve was made stronger after fighting Zabuza if I'm not mistaken
@@cliff402ful Kakashi might be the only character in this series who actually got stronger after being nerfed lol
Personal Theory is that the closer Kakashi is to Obito, physically closer that is, the less taxing the sharing becomes, it's a little weird but i think the eyes "know" when they are close to eachother and they like start to fuel each other, which explains why kakashi unlocks the perfect susano immediatly after gaining both eyes, the weird "boost thanks to proximity" effect the eyes had reached its peak
Omg I really like this idea. I always loved the idea that their is some resonance affect between obito and his eyes. Thus Kakashi and Obito. Because in the rin death flash backs we see that obito sees things through his eye in Kakashi, and when Kakashi awakened the mankegkeo he was in very close proximity to obito awakening the mangekio. I loved the idea that the chakra between the sharigan eyes would resonate with each other sometimes
That's a good theory and it makes sense.
Makes sense, remember obito kinda saw thru that eye in kakashis head when he chidoris rin. So they’re stil “connected” somehow. And it was once he got close to them
That’s a really great theory, when we see Obito and Kakashi both awakening the MS at the same exact time it kinda plants the idea that they’re linked somehow. Something about the link between the eyes and the kamui dimension being more stable (thus easier to open the portal) when the eyes are close would be a good enough explanation
Sounds like bs head canon to justify kishimoto bad writing
Kakashi got his sharingan from Obito at age 12, and he was still exhausted from using it at age 31, so in the 19 years of using it, he made LESS progress than in the 3 years of the time skip. Now that's just bad writing.
I do think Mental amps exist.
For me I always assumed that Kakashi was sort of this Shinobi where he was mentally held back by a lot of things and that affected his power as well he had the power to be the strongest in the village possibly with his Raikiri and peak potential but he was held back by so many things.
I think after meeting his Father in death some of those went away and slowly and slowly during the war lots of these regrets and mental things just boost him and that along with his training and methods I think is likely why he was so much stronger which is maybe how you can explain the Sasuke thing he still is like held back a bit as he probably doesn't want to kill Sasuke even if he feels he has to.
Short answer: because the plot needed him to be
Yes.
Every one in every show got stronger because the plot needed them to be
@@kamitaku4548yeah that's not exactly the same thing and you know it bum.
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That’s different though. When good shows need character to be stronger. They give a good explanation and makes it feel reasonable and rewarding.
Here it’s just asspull and the fan base has to make up headcanons to make sense of it because Kishimoto didn’t try
As a og Naruto fan idk y but I found it completely ridiculous and hilarious at how strong Kakashi was when I was watching what he was doing I was like "oh so we really doin this like nobody gonna notice" lmaaao 😂😂😂
Dude probably ate a ton of food pills 😂😂
I do love your explanation, but I also remember that Kakashi stopped training for a certain period of time, so when he finally got back into training, it’s like his Body was playing catch up. Kakashi likely could’ve always reached that War Arc powerlevel earlier had he stayed consistent. Heck, somehow, Sakumo was stronger than the Sanin for some reason.
Not that being stronger than the Sannin is impressive though. Pain Arc Kakashi was Sannin level already.
Yeah, part 1 kakashi was out of shape, he got back into shape between parts 1 and 2.
@@DygoKnight Kakashi was strong but in the Pain arc he didn't seem much different than in the Hidan&Kakuzu arc, and definitely not Sannin level. He was shocked that Jiraiya could go against the six paths of Pain at the same time, he died against Tendo and Ashura even though he was helped by the entire the Akimichi clan. Jiraiya without an arm fought against the six paths of Pain and could defeat one of them in a frontal fight. Pain also said that if Jiraiya had knowledge from the start he could win the fight, but if Kakashi went against all the six paths of Pain he would have been low-diffed at that time.
@@dANIEL-31-03correction..He never fought 6 paths of pain he fought 3 of the weakest pains ..As soon as All 6 showed up he lost his arm then his throat then he died ..
@@dANIEL-31-03 and Tendo barely used his strongest ability wich he used against Kakashi
Chakara is made of physical and spiritual energy after his rebirth he had the spiritual nailed down but his physical side only came after his training the war arc and his sasuke feat was onl5 because he set out to the five kage summit just after Konoha was blown up even Tsunade was still asleep
I could be wrong but didn't Kakashi say that he trained with the ms so he could get better with it during the war arc. I think Naruto mentioned it
you can t trained ms becouse you get blind after overusing it
The issue is he should of gone blind. One he wasn't an Uchiha and two he didn't have hashi cells. Obito's spam was because it would heal his eyes and would be less if a drain.
Kakashi is a saiyan and gets a Zenkai boost after nearly dying
Love the vid bro, just one thing, the 4 Tails cloak Naruto Orochimaru fought is way stronger than the V2 jinchurikis Kakashi fought, remember that Kurama with half of his chakra was able to defeat 5 full bijuu at the same Time
Thank you! Idk though, Kurama only defeated those 5 Bijus because it was working with Naruto, and it also had help from Bee and the 8 tails. I think those version 2's are pretty relative to the one Orochimaru fought.
You have to take into consideration Naruto's relatively weak base form and the fact that they all had a boost from the Sharingan and Rinnegan.
I don't have any opinion on them vs 4 tails Naruto tho. If I had to choose, I would prolly take 4 tails Naruto ig
Those jinchurikis were able to put a preasure on KCM Naruto and Bee in base. Hell, Bee had to go full on Eight Tails and destroy the entire forest just to briefly incapacitate them.
Meanwhile, Kakashi fought them when they were in V2 (and while he himself has been somewhat tired already).
No matter how you put it, it’s a ridiculous feat.
The Bijuu and the Jinchuriki also got a big buff in the War Arc because some of them were known for being extremely weak and yet they all seemed somewhat relative to Bee and Naruto.
The answer could be all theories at the same time:
1- Chrakra is spiritual energy combined with physical energy, so Kakashi training off-screen and getting closures to some of his traumas may have increased his chrakra reserves
2- His body became more adapted to the sharingan over time after using it so much and especially after dying using it and getting brought back to life
3- Some sort of mental amp gained by fighting Obito to not only protect everyone but also to protect the memories of the Obito he remembered as a kid definitively helped him to go beyond his own limits
4- It is implied that, since those are Obito's eyes, the closer they are the stronger they get because with proximity their chrakra would start to resonate (theory made by someone here in the comments)
I'm pretty sure you can increase chakra reserves through training even after you grow up.
Also, I used to feel like mental amps are kinda BS, but they're built so deep into the narrative that I just think of them as part of the power system at this point
mental amps work irl so why not😂
I think because after the pain arc once he died and got resurrected the eye was also new with no stress to it and he has used it a lot of times before pain arc so using the new "mangekyo" during the war arc essentially using the amount of kamui's he has used in his whole life in just that few days of the war arc
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Kakashi was already an adult in the beginning of Naruto. Most of the tolerance to the Sharingan would have been built much earlier than that. Unless he took steroids which would explain the enormous progress that he made after he was already a veteran.
My 2 cents is that it’s obvious kakashi is getting stronger in every arc of the show if you read between the lines, and it’s hinted multiple times by characters that he still has insane potential. (Pain, kakashi himself to jiraiya, etc)
The way we understand the show now is that battling with the sharingan makes you stronger. Your chakra levels increase and so do their potency.
His jump was so big because if you notice he was able to use mangekyo quicker and more often against pain than against anyone before.
So of course it only figures the next jump and mastery of the mangekyo sharingan would result in the biggest power jump. That alongside constant chakra reups by the nine tails, and it’s less crazy than it seems on first watch.
What's the name of the OST at 3:50? It's the exact same OST that plays right before Itachi smites Deidara, where he's ranting and raving about his art? I never knew the name of it
It's the Mount Myouboku soundtrack
He received an great amount of supportive chakra by Naruto and Kurama.
That allowed him to spam Kamui without getting quickly drained of dying like in Pain's invasion.
But, without that outer source of chakra, he'd low his reserves to the point of exhaustion like when he fought Obito in Kamui dimension and got there for a while.
After losing the sharingan he got so vulnerable that if it weren't for Obito he would have died early.
He only got that chakra very late in the game. He was spamming Kamui and other jutsus way before that.
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@@sachamarzullo I wasn't referring to the Naruto games, I was referring to the time he got that chakra. He was spamming his abilities way before he got that extra chakra.
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Because the writer forgot how much Chakra Kakashi has 😭
Arbitrary explanation is that after dying and returning Kakashi's Chakra reserves increased like in Shaman King where characters intentionally clinicly kill themselves and come back to increase Furyoku
I’ve always liked the idea that because kakashi was so depressed that his eye was always draining him of chakra.
It wasn’t a normal depression because the eye connected him to óbito and because they both shared the same sad history together. His óbito eye felt the deep sadness from both him and óbito. And the eye kind of hurt him. He also never used the eye or chidori free of pain.
I think it was a self limiting technique created by the eye itself where he unconsciously allowed the eye to drain him.
because of meeting with his Dad, team 7, and realizing óbito was alive, he could finally accept/embrace the eye and use it without feeling pain. And it stopped draining him of chakra.
So all in all, once he stopped being depressed, he was able to tap into its full potential and his chakra increased.
For the same reason why Naruto is so strong in the Pain arc: Because the war arc is a Kakashi Arc.
The main antagonist is his villain counterpart (Obito). His character arc is closed with the conclusion of the arc, not Naruto (closed after the Pain Arc) and Sasuke (closed after the final fight against Naruto). His rival play an important role during the arc (Gai).
The simplest explanation I've been able to conger up myself has always been since his sharingan is shared with Obito his ability to use it and burden of it is shared and the closer he is with the origin of the eye cuts the costs of using it in half or more. So the stronger Obito becomes the easier the sharingan use is for Kakashi as well as the drain it historically took. It's just alot less bc Obito is in very close proximity. That an pairing with how consistent Kakashi trains also helps with this
No, you are right, mental amp is the thing I suppose. After he died he finally solved his problem with his father. After he got revived he slowly gain that belief in himself that he needed all along. Yeah, I know, this contradicts with his short fight with Sasuke, but I think after he talked to Sakumo, got revived, saw what achievement Naruto got against Pain - his mentality got stronger and overall he started to use his skills including the sharingan and MS much better. And only one thing was left with his mentality - he thought that he failed Sasuke, that it was his fault that he didn’t manage to save him from his darkness. During their confrontation he struggled, cause his only solution was to stop him by killing him. However after that moment he understood that it was wrong, because Naruto didn’t want to give up on Sasuke. And Kakashi finally reinforced his belief in Naruto. He was supporting this belief tremendously during the war ark, especially while he was fighting Obito. That’s why his mentality was on its peak. His unwavering belief in Naruto allowed him to believe in himself. I think mental buff that he received with Sakumo and Naruto really gave him more power to be in harmony within himself therefore there was no distractions in his head. And he used his body, mind and skills much more efficiently since then.
But it’s my theory, my head canon.)
I heard one theory that since chakra is created from both physical and spiritual energy, his spiritual energy (meaning his mental health in this case) improved greatly from the closure he received from meeting his father after he died fighting Pain and eventually when he reconciled with Obito during the war
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Yep, that does sound like Naruto.
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There is a lot of plot holes with kakshi and obito with the sharnigan the fact they both spam the absolute shit out of Kamui and didn't go blind in one eye is weird to say the least could be since Kakashi isn't a uchia that he doesn't get the draw backs from the Kamui being used to much hence going blind but Obito used it way more then he did. As for kakshi seeming leagues higher then he was before the war arc he saw the battle between sasuke and naruto and knew that he had fallen behind but as for how he grew more chakra and had way better stamina i think he trained in the eight inner gates to help improve his stamina and chakra is easily explained the Byakugan can increase your chakra flow he could had his flow of chakra increased that way we never seen how long that last or how much of a improvement it gives but its a interesting thought
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One part of this maybe because when kakashi used kamui or sharingan in general more and more he became more oficient with it. Which means it would spend less chakra
I very specifically remember someone saying training your body increases overall chakra
Kakashi is the “Mr. World wide” of Naruto the way I look at this he was always supposed to be THAT strong they even wanted him to become hokage post pain arc so I think this makes sense it always seems like his reputation and actual strength never made sense so I think Kishimoto just unleashed the Kakakshi we should have gotten sooner and stoped holding him back and nerf him.
1. Because people master their techniques eventually. And kakashi is a fast learner
2. Because kyubi recharged him and i think he also got kyubi cloak again later like the rest
its possible that during the war, constantly pushing his body and gaining knowledge and experience could have been the factor. Also when young kakashi & guy were together kakashi was almost out of chakra and suddenly he gained more and was able to use chidori to cut lightning jutsu. Dont forget how sauske got better for the chunin exams after training with kakashi. We saw Choji got stronger during the war after overcoming mental barrier. So its possible he got an increase in both his physical & spiritual energy , by pushing his body and from gaining more knowledge & experience.
Well that could be an argument if the war hadn't lasted for literally 2 days. The mental amps seem to make more sense.
His used 3 or 4 kamui when he fought deidara the last kamui which he used to despair deidara's blow that blow was Huge if see that ep again. And also ig when pain pined his shoulder it sucked some of his chakra at the beginning of the pain fight.
Kakashi died against pain and when he came back to life he got a zenkai boost isn’t that obvious?……oh wait that’s the wrong anime.
In part 1 kakashi was out of shape, he's been lazy. When mountain climbing he stated that his body was sluggish and climbing shouldn't be so hard. The reason he was so much stronger in part 2 is because he got back in shape and got more efficiënt with his chakra. He got stronger little by little because of training until his death. Then when he came back to life he was mentally more stable because he had closure with his dad in the afterlife which means better chakra and thus he get's a power up. He keeps training and gets stronger and stronger.
If you ask me part 1 and much of part 2 kakashi was nerfed, after coming back from death is him as strong as he should have been being the prodigical son of a legendary super ninja.
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The only explanation I can think of are the Food Pills and Guy helping him open another gate or two, and even that's pushing it
that's because Kishimoto's goal seemed to be to make Team 7 as overpowered as possible. He was going: "Naruto is not strong enough? I'll just make a new character and say Naruto is his reincarnation, then that new character will give Naruto op powers"
i remember kakashi faint after using 2 or 3 kamui during war arc, so he take some rest to recover, also get full chakra refill by kurama. He can't become blind because his sharingan is chakra connected to the Obito one.
Plothole: because kishimoto didn't fully picture the power level scale since the beginning. In part 1 of the story all characters are way less powerful, just look at the fight between Orochimaru with Edo 1st and 2nd hokage against 3rd Hokage: that fight is laughable compared to the massive world-shaping battles of late shippuuden. Kishimoto just didn't imagine his own story would have required such growth in power level
Zenkai boost after dying in the Pain invasion Kakashi is a saiyan confirmed
this is just a theory, but maybe when Kakashi was brought back with Rinne Rebirth he was brought back more.....durable? idk.
the rinnegan honestly seems like it can do whatever it wants sometimes lmao
I always say kakashi isn’t the strongest character but he’s strong and smart enough to hold his own against almost anyone in the series for a time.
I feel Kakashi figured out how to be more efficient with his chakra when using Kamui.
I would like to combine DygoKnights explanation with the following:
Chakra is made by fusing physical and mental energy (I dont remember what they are called in the series). It is explained early on that one can gain more chakra by training your body, getting stronger and by getting smarter/improving mentally. When Kakashi went to that purgatory-like after life and met his dad I think that may have significantly improved his mental health thus increasing his chakra. It is explained in the anime that Kakashi was struggling with his mental health/PTSD for a while, so I think him improving his mental health by making peace with his daddy may have significantly upped his chakra levels. Also while fighting in the war, he may have snacked on those chakra recovery pills AND there is bound to be something like support Ninja in universe who can lend him some chakra, so I'd like to think that he support-chakra boosted off-screen and was snacking on those chakra recovery pills.
Sry for rambling, have a nice day fellow weebz.
He got a zenkai boost
It was meeting his father and resolving the issues with him. It removed a mental burden he had felt. This is an Eastern cultivation story. mental state is 100% your power. It is even explicitly stated that experiences, and such effect your chakra levels. MS and even EMS don’t give a person a boost apart from their abilities, it suffering thou the mental trauma that provides the chakra boost.
Kishimoto should have made him as strong as his War arc self from the beginning of Shippuden. May be a little bit weaker so no Kamui spam but won't run out of chakra easily. It wouldn't even change the direction of the plot. He was just jobbing unnecessarily to characters who's power levels later became irrelevant because of power creep
Who did kakashi job to in part 2 ? He defeated 30% itachi, blew deidras arm off, he blitz'd nine tails rage mode naruto and put a tag on him to control kurama then he fought and helped kill hidan and kakazu, had a close fight with pain and then almost killed sasuke if naruto didnt hols him back. He only lost to pain
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@@DygoKnight and one more important thing to ask many people say that he the original user of kotoamtsukami that’s why he didn’t have a cool-down of 10year or something like when kakashi uses Kamui it takes a lot of chakra I know obito have hashirama cells and stuff like that and please cover a hypothetical SHISUI too
Bro became zabusa victim to kamui spammer akatsuki destorying machine
Couple things:
Plot - But the opposite of how people are describing it. The plot early in Naruto needed Kakashi to be weaker, ANBU Kakashi would have murdered a lot of the early enemies in like 2 secs.
Medical Ninja: Off screen Kakashi probably got healing. Healing jutsu restores some of their chakra.
Training: Kakashi stopped being lazy and started training again intensely.
Also, worth mentioning Kakashi got much better at using Kamui which shorten the length of time he needed it active.
Actually, slight correction. You can absolutely increase the amount of chakra you produce. Chakra is just Physichal and Spirtual Energy combined. So working out, taking stimulants, studying, meditation, experience; all of those increase either your mental or physichal energy and in turn, increase how much chakra you can produce. It's actually part of the reason Guy's 8 Gates are so powerful compared to Dai's, because he has an insane amount of physichal energy to produce an insane amount of chakra in turn.
I think Kakashi also learned how kamui works after seeing obito using it.
So he probably learned how to use it quickly and without thinking to much
The rate of his vision deteriorating got slower imo
Your theory is exactly like mine
I think there are times when we should just accept that there are plotholes in the stories we see. Plotholes that even a very kind and creative mind can't strech enough to find an explanation.
I think it would be good if kakashi died before war arc it could help other characters in developing and it would be a heart filled movement seeing all older generations is dying
It could be that other ninjas were giving Kakashi their chakra. This explains why so many of them were sitting around doing nothing.
I saw a lot of videos about this topic, and it's crazy to me that nobody ever considers the most obvious part: In the war arc there were tons and tons of medical ninjas healing and replenishing chakra to every important character. Come on guys....Kakashi probably got replenished several times off camera.
Could it be due to increasing spiritual energy for he being less depressive?
simple answer: plot convenience
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i haven’t watched the war arc in a while so correct me if i’m wrong didnt kurama put some of his chakra into him when he threw him at obito
In shaman King when you die and come back you get exponential stronger.
my asspull explanation is that the rinne tensei gave the entire leaf a DBZ Zenkai boost
The reason why kakashi is so much stronger in shippuuden than normal, and then again way stronger in war arc is because he is THE paragon. So his strength needs to be relative to main characters. And since Naruto and Sasuke became God level, he needs to be at least comparable.
He got brought back by Pain then he got the amps
He just refine every jutsu he use even his MS. Remember that when he train naruto to use is chakra properly and refine it. for example naruto use a large a mount of chakra just to use kagebunshin or rasengan. kakashi can use that jutsu with a minimal amount of chakra because he can control his chakra and refine it properly. thats the reason why thru the series kakashi chakra reserve is got bigger because he keeps on refining his chakra control and use a little more chakra to his kamui in war arc. Unlike the start of shippuden when he first time to use the kamui. he can’t control his chakra properly because that is his first time to use it. but thru the series he started to refine his chakra and use properly his kamui with a minimum amount of chakra.
He had a really good Day i guess.
My favorite theory goes that Kakashi was always that strong but due to trauma he nerfed himself. Much like how Superman nerfs himself to keep from killing everything except Kakashi did it due to his loss. Everytime he used the Sharingan he probably thought of Obito which would limit his focus. When he used the MS he probably thought of the day he killed Rin and that would also not only limit him but perhaps he used more chakra when he had the mental limits on in order to potentially kill himself to atone for Rin. In the War arc he has to confront Obito and I believe facing that reality helped him get over his blocks. That and he most likely trained to use it in more after the Pain arc. My own headcannon and no. This is not my theory but one I like. I believe Swagkage came up with it based on how Minato went from dominating to literally being too slow to dodge Obito after finding out that Obito is the Masked Man.
He also learned eight gates
It's because kakashi is built different ...........
Plot?
I know I'm very late but the only reason kakashi got so much more powerful is because he is one of the most popular characters.
In the War Arc, it's not so much that Kakashi got a mental amp as it was him removing a mental block in his psyche. Keep in mind, this was not only a ninja who in the Academy was using Earth Style jutsu, but he "lost" his comrade and his love interest in quick succession as a child soldier. Also keep in mind, they stated that Team 7 was the first team Kakashi ever got to lead: Every other team they tried to have Kakashi lead failed the bell "test" (it was designed for the aspiring genin to fail automatically) but they each failed the true test of Kakashi. Where did Kakashi get the idea for his test? From none other than his Sensei, the 4th Hokage, as well as from his "lost" comrade, Obito.
I see it in the same way as if Nagato got a mental block: If he had the Rinnegan but wasn't aware of it's powers, he'd have access to all 5 basic chakra natures. That alone would still make him stronger than most characters in the series, but it would still put him below any Uchiha clan members, and a far cry from the "Shinobi God" that he was trying to become. A mental amp can push you past your limits for sure (See Rock Lee versus Gaara), but I think as a pure matter of comparison, a mental block can be far more detrimental than a mental amp can be helpful.
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Maybe bcz as guy said kakashi is always training so he might have mastered kamui
He should be able to singly handle pain since he received bijuu chakra 4 times the amp makes him stronger that allowed him to spam kamui more frequently so he should be able to take out the akatsuki
Stronger, but still got washed at every turn. I thought a teacher would be something to inspire, especially in war ethics; considering what kind of atmosphere the show represents.
I don't call him Kakashi. I call him Captain Struggle.
Both of the theories can be true at the same time. His ability to Kamui was enhanced by death by over using Kamui, then mental anguish of having to kill another comrade in Sasuke to protect another comrade in Sakura which would be a mental conflict for Kakashi which would cause his spiritual energy to be less. Charka is a balance between physical and spiritual energy, so less spiritual energy means less Charka so a mental de-amp instead of a mental amp.
The other theory is an extension of your calcification theory, for the leg to heal and be stronger it has to heal correctly and this can take 6 months to year. During this period the leg could be usable it is much weaker. So the fight with Sasuke, Kakashi was weaker since his spirit and body were still healing from the pain arc, since it was maybe 2 to 3 weeks after his death, judging by how much of the city is rebuilt. Where the war arc was was an undisclosed amount of time, in the anime, since the city was rebuilt completely rebuilt. Just as an example it took Japan 4 and half years to recover from the 2011 earthquake. Yes, I know it did not take 4 and half years for the city hidden in the leaf to recover from Pain, but say it took a year. Meaning that Kakashi had enough time to recover.
More head cannon than theory and less interesting but it is possible that in between fights his chakra was being replenished, I don’t fully understand how healing works in Naruto but if it’s possible to restore your chakra in between fights I’m sure our characters took it off screen I mean there was a bunch of medics out with them 🤔
So, he got a zenkai boost?
Why was Obito able to use Kamui's ability with a base Sharingan?
Answer:
Because everyone in there brother needed to be in order to stay relevant, including both pro and antagonist.
Kakashi is a Saiyan
I think it involves chakra control that he improved if that’s even possible so the tolerance coupled with hatred coupled with straight up efficiency
short answer: naruto/kurama chakra and obito chakra ghost
whats up with the constant blur, i had to watch this video sound only because of how annoying that was
I think that the 4tails orochimaru fought was stronger then the V-2 jinchuriki because it could use the tailled beast bomb
the only right answer is, that the author had to make him stronger.
Thats it, the question is answered. He was made stronger, just because he needed to be stronger for the war.
Things like this happen often in manga.
My theory is obito just has broken hax level eyes and kakashi just sucked at using them until the war
Kakashi seems to be better with the sharingan when he was still an anbu than he was as a jonin before shippuden.. 🤷🏻♂️
Kakashi was able to defeat pain if he had chakra
My random unsubstantiated headcanon: obito implanting the rinnegan somehow transferred over an amp to kakashi