Jaden hasn’t progressed the way they expected him to. He was supposed to be the Scottie Pippen to ants Jordan. But right now both of them are no where close to either.
Just a note to Phil. That’s not how +\ - works. It’s not a player vs player stat and you need to replace him. Donte would have gotten more min and he is -8. It’s a stat to give indications but it doesn’t factor in missed shots from good passes, etc. Can’t really strip out one player and say that would have been difference.
I would love to see a Phil, Kyle, and Dane Moore episode. Phil seems more in the camp of playing Rob, Minott, and others more. Dane seems to just want the top 8 players to play. Would love to see that debate/discussion.
Dane has been to Kyles in Portland twice, literally in the next room while Phil and Kyle did Flagrant Howls. If they didn't collab either of those times, something tells me Dane doesn't like Mackie. This show will shout his podcast out, but only Kyle will speak on FH when he's with Dane
There is no movement on offense. Everyone just stands around until it's there turn to go 1 on 5. Watching Ant defer to Randle while Randle crab-dribbles into a turnover is really painful to watch.
I miss KAT. Ant misses KAT. They played together with such joy, and the whole team fed off it. People call it chemistry, I call it joy. God, this team is cold and dead. Joyless.
Well, Julius and Naz do not defend most of the games. Naz is very often beaten by his opponent…Jaden is not the defender he used to be. His player is too often attacking Rudy inside. Shouldn’t be.
Not time to panic yet. But we should be concerned. I get that we might be stagnant at times on offense due to having some new players especially with Randle being the new number 2 guy. But the lack of effort is disturbing. And I think we miss KAT on the glass.
Teams would have to play different with Rob on the floor, go ahead try and play Rob fullcourt so he can zip by collapse the D and kick the ball out for a faster bricked three!
Glad the kid gloves are coming off related to criticism of Jaden - dude’s been playing below mediocre basketball for two years and noone’s been calling him out for it until now.
Naz Reid should be nothing more than a 6th Man (just like how Toni Kukoc was for the Bulls) Signing Rudy Gobert to a contract extension was ANOTHER MISTAKE made by Tim Connelly Julius Rnadle’s presence on the floor takes away ball handling and touches from Jaden McDaniels (but that really wasn’t a problem with Karl Towns because with Towns the ball didn’t stick as much as it does with Julius Randle) Obviously it would be ideal for Ant & Jaden to become the next version of MJ & Pippen (but does Ant & Jaden possess the same mindset as MJ & Pippen?🤔)
There is a Julius problem. I contend they will move him sooner rather than later to improve the fit. He’s never been a good fit from day one. Doesn’t play defense and is ball dominant. Naz or Jaden can never step up with Julius’ game. He is what he is.
Finch is the issue here, he pulls guys when their hot just to keep his rotation contant, sit guys like Naz and Naw at the end of the game just so the starting 5 can finish even tho they are struggling
Problem is Ant lost Vando AND KAT now. Losing either Jaden or Naz at this point would really frustrate him and lead to discontent. Jaden is likely stuck here awhile, watching NAW be everything we wanted Jaden to be
Watching the T wolves vs. the Suns and I have to ask myself, "Self, is Randle better than Two Words? His wind-up to shoot seems to take longer than to eat state fair taffy. And would it not be better if Randle came off the bench? Ok, he hit the Game winner. Nice. But we need to stop the bleeding in the 1st quarter and answer whos team is this, Ants or Randles.
If Anthony Edwards played with Russell Westbrook’s energy.. he would be the greatest ever. If he hustled for every rebound, controlled the offense and took everything personally we would be unstoppable. Say what you want about how reckless Russ was, but the effort was always there. I would rather have Ant be trying too hard then coasting. He sometimes plays very entitled basketball like he’s a 35 year old veteran who gets to pick and choose what nights he actually tries. He may not load manage in the traditional sense, but he certainly takes way too many games off.
Mackey quit using other teams as an excuse for why the wolves are .500 the wolves are .500 because they simply have been lazy and terrible for the first 6 games
Ant mentioned taking threes is easier on his knees than jumping and driving. I think he is doing it to not get injured as last season he kept having ankle injuries.
Timberwolves loose Kyle and KAT. They get Dante who is as good as Slo-mo, and Julius isn't that much different than KAT. The guys that have shown problems are Conley and Jaden and Ant are not what they were with on-ball than they are. Offense is sloppy and turnovers result in easy buckets that hurt the defense ratings. Clean up the turnovers and run plays that get downhill and close more and not get caught into throwing the ball away looking for three pointers that aren't hitting.
The absence of Towns has NOT caused lack of defense for TWolves.. Towns doesnt self-motivate. Timberwolves would be far worse with Towns on the roster surrounded by teammates that hustle less than last season. Towns was super lazy next to worthless Wiggins; drove Butler, Thibbs, and fans crazy. Im getting serious Wiggins vibes regarding Jaden MacDaniels; NOT A COMPLEMENT!!!
I mean the wolves were never going to repeat as #1 defense even if somehow we magically had slomo and kat back. It is just too hard to do. Currently they are 9th today. And not even playing good on that side. So top 5 is eventually coming.
Trade Jaden for Patrick Williams. Almost same size. More bulk. Much better three point shooter. A bit worse defensively. Save 7 million per year. Perfect trade for two players stuck as same player for 5 seasons with little or no growth. Change of scenery.
Jaden hasn’t progressed the way they expected him to. He was supposed to be the Scottie Pippen to ants Jordan. But right now both of them are no where close to either.
@senyilie - Jaden has been massively disappointing at this point. He’s nearly 7 ft tall and can’t rebound
Timberwolves offense and defense got weaker on that blockbuster trade.
I’m gonna give it 10-15 more games before I form an opinion
Just a note to Phil. That’s not how +\ - works. It’s not a player vs player stat and you need to replace him. Donte would have gotten more min and he is -8. It’s a stat to give indications but it doesn’t factor in missed shots from good passes, etc.
Can’t really strip out one player and say that would have been difference.
I would love to see a Phil, Kyle, and Dane Moore episode. Phil seems more in the camp of playing Rob, Minott, and others more. Dane seems to just want the top 8 players to play. Would love to see that debate/discussion.
Dane has been to Kyles in Portland twice, literally in the next room while Phil and Kyle did Flagrant Howls. If they didn't collab either of those times, something tells me Dane doesn't like Mackie. This show will shout his podcast out, but only Kyle will speak on FH when he's with Dane
There is no movement on offense. Everyone just stands around until it's there turn to go 1 on 5. Watching Ant defer to Randle while Randle crab-dribbles into a turnover is really painful to watch.
I miss KAT. Ant misses KAT. They played together with such joy, and the whole team fed off it. People call it chemistry, I call it joy. God, this team is cold and dead. Joyless.
So sad, we have now been regulated to be satisfied with beating a lowly Kings team in OT.
Well, Julius and Naz do not defend most of the games. Naz is very often beaten by his opponent…Jaden is not the defender he used to be. His player is too often attacking Rudy inside. Shouldn’t be.
Not time to panic yet. But we should be concerned. I get that we might be stagnant at times on offense due to having some new players especially with Randle being the new number 2 guy. But the lack of effort is disturbing. And I think we miss KAT on the glass.
Stop.... Rob being -13 during his minutes had more to do with no one being able to shoot. Wouldn't have mattered who was initiating those passes.
Teams would have to play different with Rob on the floor, go ahead try and play Rob fullcourt so he can zip by collapse the D and kick the ball out for a faster bricked three!
Glad the kid gloves are coming off related to criticism of Jaden - dude’s been playing below mediocre basketball for two years and noone’s been calling him out for it until now.
Naz Reid should be nothing more than a 6th Man (just like how Toni Kukoc was for the Bulls)
Signing Rudy Gobert to a contract extension was ANOTHER MISTAKE made by Tim Connelly
Julius Rnadle’s presence on the floor takes away ball handling and touches from Jaden McDaniels (but that really wasn’t a problem with Karl Towns because with Towns the ball didn’t stick as much as it does with Julius Randle)
Obviously it would be ideal for Ant & Jaden to become the next version of MJ & Pippen (but does Ant & Jaden possess the same mindset as MJ & Pippen?🤔)
A foolish mistake, don't know wassup with that due and Gobert.
@ Rudy Gobert is the most overhyped and overpaid defensive player in NBA history.
I agree with the Randle opinion
Connelly is going to flip Randle, right? He didn’t seem to fit on paper and now it’s clear he bogs down the offense despite putting up decent numbers
The wolves play very undisciplined basketball and that’s a coaching problem.
There is a Julius problem. I contend they will move him sooner rather than later to improve the fit. He’s never been a good fit from day one. Doesn’t play defense and is ball dominant. Naz or Jaden can never step up with Julius’ game. He is what he is.
Is bricksworth the sponsor because that’s the way they shoot?
Zing!
Maybe Declan on FF is a jinx. Can you stick to Kyle or even just Judd?
Finch is the issue here, he pulls guys when their hot just to keep his rotation contant, sit guys like Naz and Naw at the end of the game just so the starting 5 can finish even tho they are struggling
Is it time to face up to Jaden not being what we hoped he would be?
It’s time
I was telling people this two seasons ago. Trade him while his stock is high
Yes. He is what he is.
Problem is Ant lost Vando AND KAT now. Losing either Jaden or Naz at this point would really frustrate him and lead to discontent. Jaden is likely stuck here awhile, watching NAW be everything we wanted Jaden to be
Defense definitively regressed, but the offense looks very sub par.
The KAT trade was a failure and its about time we start admitting it
Maybe a failure for both teams so far. Let's see how the rest of the season, and next few years go with who stays and who moves.
Watching the T wolves vs. the Suns and I have to ask myself, "Self, is Randle better than Two Words? His wind-up to shoot seems to take longer than to eat state fair taffy. And would it not be better if Randle came off the bench? Ok, he hit the Game winner. Nice. But we need to stop the bleeding in the 1st quarter and answer whos team is this, Ants or Randles.
If Anthony Edwards played with Russell Westbrook’s energy.. he would be the greatest ever. If he hustled for every rebound, controlled the offense and took everything personally we would be unstoppable. Say what you want about how reckless Russ was, but the effort was always there. I would rather have Ant be trying too hard then coasting. He sometimes plays very entitled basketball like he’s a 35 year old veteran who gets to pick and choose what nights he actually tries. He may not load manage in the traditional sense, but he certainly takes way too many games off.
when is the last time Ant had a double double? Ridiculous.
why did they extend Gobert?
I think they re-worked his contract, extended him but less money per year
No talking about the transition defense and shitty coaching
Because they don’t actually know ball. They only talk about plus minus and stats they have never actually played a game of organized basketball.
Wolves haven’t been good since the new intro
Mackey quit using other teams as an excuse for why the wolves are .500 the wolves are .500 because they simply have been lazy and terrible for the first 6 games
there was no other way to go but down.
Ant mentioned taking threes is easier on his knees than jumping and driving. I think he is doing it to not get injured as last season he kept having ankle injuries.
Timberwolves loose Kyle and KAT. They get Dante who is as good as Slo-mo, and Julius isn't that much different than KAT. The guys that have shown problems are Conley and Jaden and Ant are not what they were with on-ball than they are. Offense is sloppy and turnovers result in easy buckets that hurt the defense ratings. Clean up the turnovers and run plays that get downhill and close more and not get caught into throwing the ball away looking for three pointers that aren't hitting.
The absence of Towns has NOT caused lack of defense for TWolves..
Towns doesnt self-motivate.
Timberwolves would be far worse with Towns on the roster surrounded by teammates that hustle less than last season.
Towns was super lazy next to worthless Wiggins; drove Butler, Thibbs, and fans crazy.
Im getting serious Wiggins vibes regarding Jaden MacDaniels; NOT A COMPLEMENT!!!
I mean the wolves were never going to repeat as #1 defense even if somehow we magically had slomo and kat back. It is just too hard to do. Currently they are 9th today. And not even playing good on that side. So top 5 is eventually coming.
Trade Jaden for Patrick Williams. Almost same size. More bulk. Much better three point shooter. A bit worse defensively. Save 7 million per year. Perfect trade for two players stuck as same player for 5 seasons with little or no growth. Change of scenery.
Tim Con isa FRAUD ..He has NEVER built a CHAMPIONSHIP team...PERIOD
He built all the core pieces of the Nuggets. Murray, MPJ and Jokic. Try harder.
This is obvious bait… he got the Nuggets a chip😭😂
Most GMs haven't anyway