Sooner or later, we knew this would happen. Hollywood does not create, it takes an old idea twists it around like a pretzel and fully expects were too stupid to see the BS.
Terminator 69 the lunchbox, Terminator 69 the breakfast cereal, Terminator 69...the flame thrower! (Problem is, the merch only sells if the movie does well, and if the toys are halfway decent. Neither the toy industry or Hollywood are pulling their weight in that equation.)
At least Terminator Zero actually takes the ideas of the franchise in a new and interesting way that makes me want to know more... Yes, there is no John Connor or even _any_ direct ties to the originals aside from references, but given how often the story of the Connors has been butchered since T3, this is a wise choice.
And the "modern audiences" don't WANT them. I'm not sure what they DO want, but they don't seem to be supporting these movies, so apparently they want something else.
@@stevenscott2136 The "modern audience" wants exactly what we want, good movies/games/shows/comics/ect. But hollywood/game studios seem to think a very very small minority of people that cry for racism to go into overdrive and the mutilation of children are the entire audience when the box office, video game sales and EVERYTHING shows that they are not the actual audience and have no interest in even paying for this crap. Until they learn that the "modern audience" is the same audience that has always existed we will continue to get everything destroyed.
For years Terminator 2 was my favorite movie. Five years out and I haven't even bothered to watch Dark Fate even though I could do it at any time for free. That's how much I care. Please make it stop.
Yeah. And I didn't watch anything past the apocryphal movies in those series either. Alien 3 was disgusting and turned me off the whole idea of shoehorned sequels altogether. A second film can be great, answering all the questions raised by the first one. T2 and Aliens were great because of that. But if a film isn't based on a property which was designed to be episodic, (like Star Trek, or Mission Impossible), then eventual failure is written into its DNA. That goes 10x for today, where everything is woke.
Terminator 3 was a good movie. I don't much care for the hate it gets. The TV series had two good alternate universe seasons with two equally attractive female stars. The big weakness for that was John Connor. The other movies were flat out terrible money grabs that I didn't even care to watch.
@@n.d.m.515 its still pretty shit and not needed, second movie was good sound off for series, that kid will grow up to be mankind savers, there's even ending where they change the future
I also like to point out it was apprantely James Cameron's idea to have them kill off John Conner at the start. And keep in mind, this is the same man who was heavily critical of the fact that both Newt and Hicks were killed off unceremoniously in the first five minutes of Alien 3, going so far as to call it a slap in the face to the fans. I guess, he didn't consider these same feelings when it came to fans of Terminator. I think Cameron should just leave Terminator alone, now and forever, and just focus on his alien Smurf movies. At least those are actually capable of generating money.
Very true! Like all of us, directors can change over time...and when it comes to people in the Hollywood bubble, those changes are rarely for the better. The Avatar films prove he's still great when it comes to pursuing visual excellence, but also that he's fallen off a cliff when it comes to storytelling. To your point, I think the snazzy visuals of the "alien Smurfs" are the only thing that make his tripe palatable for the masses. --Which, up to about seven years ago, was Hollywood's MO: make the people sexy, make the effects eye-opening, and make the plot at least serviceable, and people will eagerly digest all the normalization, moral erosion, and subtle perversion the filmmaker wants to weave into the story. Terminator just doesn't have the razzle-dazzle or story potential needed to lull folks into embracing what will most certainly be tale for the yet-to-be-created modern audience.
That suggests that he really took it as a slap in the face to *him* that someone else killed off *his* characters. He obviously doesn't mind or care what the fans think if he kills them off, himself.
@@death-king1834 The big mistake in the Terminator franchise was changing the rules of time travel. The first two movies establish that the very act of trying to change the past is what caused the events they were trying to change. If Skynet hadn’t sent the T800 back to kill John Connor’s mother, John Connor’s mother never would’ve met his father, the soldier from the future. In T2, although it requires a few assumptions by the audience, the attack on CyberDyne is probably the very thing that made them program self-preservation into their AI. It’s a closed loop. No people out of time who remember alternate versions of reality. Very clean, very close to perfect. Then they jump from Terminator rules to Back To The Future rules.
Hollywood only see's one thing in Terminator, the money. The first film had a budget of $6.4 million and grossed $78.3 Million, and they want that again.
Exactly this, while not a perfect film, The Creator at least told an "original" story in this genre and sent garbage. While I. Didn't cost a fortune to make, it didn't make enough to convince studios that a film about humans and robots fighting can be anything but terminator...
He wasnt a clown in T2, that smile scene is just a comical reminder to John that this machine is not human, it's purpose is not to only "blend in" but to terminate.
So very true. While T2 is a masterpiece, it lacks the horror and brutality of T1, which is why this will also always remain a classic. Not timeless, because it heavily carries the 80s label, but it does so in the most awesome way. 80s cinema at it's peak. Afterall, it is the incarnation of a killer robot. Unstoppable and fierce. T2 dialed this down a lot, and it was basically abscent from the other movies (except T4, but which only had single moments of it).
@marcfuchs6938 just rewatched T2 last night on netflix. The T1000 stabs ppl through the head several times. How is it not a horror movie? It's scarier than the T800 from 84.
@@bantuboi3131 T2 tends a little more to the direction of splatter in my opinion, less horro. I believe it has to do with being machine VS. Machine in T2, 2 soulless things opposing each other, there is no fear. In T1, it is Sarah and Kyle against the Terminator, in a time without tze weapon technologie to effectively attack the machine. They are basically without defense against it, needing to run at any moment. In addition, Reese telling his stories and his trauma he has with the machines adds to this whole theme of it being a true nightmare. T1 just showed the brutality of the machine war in a more realistic, graspable way, where T2 is more a classic action set piece without awaking this existential dredd as much. In single moments with the T1000, sure. But over the entire movie, less than T1.
@marcfuchs6938 fair point. I think the fact that the T800's skin disguise is rotting and decomposing towards the end of the movie adds to the horror aspect, too. That creeped me out when I saw it for the first time. Reminded me of Edgar from Men in Black. He got more gross as the movie progressed as well.
I agree. Sometimes the best choice is to stop when you're ahead and be satisfied with what you have. Hollywood, being comprised of corporations beholden to shareholders wanting constant or increasing returns, being under threat from growing international competition, may not be capable of doing that.
@@JoakimOtamaaI'm pretty sure a cyborg needs to have some kind of robotic augmentation. I don't think I'd count a pacemaker as augmentation; if anything it's fixing a flaw, not adding ability.
@@nthgth I'm just remembering an article either from Wikipedia or Finnish Science Magazine from years ago so I'm probably wrong but it does sound cool to say if one's a cyborg.
This is only part of it. It's not entirely their fault. There's a phenomenon where, in the past, there was fewer competition for entertainment IPs and franchises, so things stood out more. That's magnified even further when we look at the past only remembering the standout movies and shows. A brand new franchise is lost in the sea of modern choices and has a very hard time succeeding even when it's good. While something like The Terminator can succeed even when it's bad. You're here talking about it.
I think that totally nails it. They have banned creative passion from the business, so it is only natural that only corporate garbage emerges, that does nothing but go down a checklist for every creation they put out. It is astounging, how they STILL fail to realize, that cranking diversity to 11, being more inclusive than inclusivity itself and trying to appeal to every single humanoid creature on the planet all at once gets you nowhere. I personally like how Hollywood and big parts of the gaming world turned bad all together. Because I am in the process of launching an own fully animated channel, that comes with an insane amount of work, and having less distraction from that leaves me with more time being constructive. If only........ I wouldn't still waste too much time on RUclips.......
The Terminator should have been a trillogy and nothing more. The origional Terminator and Terminator 2 and then a Kyle Reese focused "Prequil" if you will that followed Kyle starting as a kid, judgement day hits when he's arout 8-10 years old, and then following his life till the humans are victorious and he's choosen to go back in time. John Connor would weave in and out of the story a couple times almost like a supporting character (saving and recuriting Kyle as a teen when John is still low to mid rank, and maybe giving a mission briefing to Kyles team to capture and retrieve a damaged T-800 when John is higher rank) but not be a major character in any way till they are planning and executing the final assault at the end.
It's a closed industry, always has been. Unless you're a member of a certain part of society then chances are you'll never make it. The fact that it's a social club is the reason why so many of them are clueless and talentless, and just churning out crap.
Go watch Terminator Zero and then tell me you still don't have hope for Terminator. Fresh ideas and breaking away from Arnold and the Connors changes everything.
At the time of its releaae, T3 was praised by the critics for its self-awareness (the humor). That was actually a strength for the movie, as far as people were concerned in 2003, but it created the slippery slope of the further sequels being too slapstick. And yes, TSCC was actually very good. Fortunately, it's available for purchase on Google TV. The series ended on something of a cliffhanger, but it also ended the story arc for season 2 well enough. Just wish we could have gotten at least an abbreviated 3rd and final season to wrap things up.
I don’t know why this is so hard for them to understand. The first two movies were great and all anyone needed. Story told and completed. Everything else that followed were unnecessary cash grabs. Just stop, Hollywood!
Capitalism runs on the premise of "if it worked once, it will work again... and again... and again..." - ANY successful idea will get milked until dead. And then the corpse gets split into tiny pieces, which ar esold for profit.
At least Terminator Zero actually takes the ideas of the franchise in a new and interesting way that makes me want to know more... Yes, there is no John Connor or even _any_ direct ties to the originals aside from references and ideas, but given how often the story of the Connors has been butchered since T3, this is a wise choice.
I don't see how anyone can think that's better than the highway at night theatrical ending. *"The unknown future rolls toward us. I face it for the first time with a sense of hope, because if a machine, a Terminator, can learn the value of human life, maybe we can too."* That. SLAPS. And nothing will ever top it. Terminator shouldn't have a unicorns and rainbows happy ending. Hope doesn't exist in the bright of day, it exists surrounded by darkness and uncertainty. Terminator is a dark story, and the alternate ending is too bright, metaphorically AND literally. I feel like that scene was filmed with mirrors reflecting as much sunlight onto the set as possible. It's disgusting. 🤮
I believe that's only true if the people using the IP aren't the original owners. I think Fox's agreement with Marvel is that they have to produce "x" number of projects over "x" number of years or the licenses on the characters will go back to Marvel (or Disney, or whoever actually owns the rights at this point). If the folks holding the rights to Terminator are the owners, they don't have to do anything. --As other folks have mentioned, Back to the Future hasn't been touched by the IP butchery because the creator also has the rights, and he's not letting anyone touch it. Edit: I just saw in another comment that Gale Ann Heard owns the rights--so you're probably correct! I didn't realize Cameron didn't own the franchise.
@@sabgogo7393 In fairness, you can blame the general audience for this as well. They complain about not getting new things, but when it comes out, they rarely support it.
He'll title it... "Lusitania", with the exact same beats... Rose will find another homeless dude... And pass off the baby to her loyal devoted husband.
He could actually do 'Titanic II: Britannic' and 'Titanic III: Olympic.' Both the Titanic's sister Olympic Class ships had interesting lives... I was always surprised Cameron didn't tell the story of Britannic, its war service and sinking. Olympic was decommissioned in the 1930s.
It couldn’t possibly be worse than the last one where they killed off John, that utterly destroyed the entire premise of the franchise. The entire point was the one person that could bring down Skynet was John, but if some girl can just take his place then what the machines is doing is pointless. If someone else can just take Johns place then what’s the point in constantly going back in time?
That's one of the easiest ways to determine if something stems from a woke mindset. When a story goes in a very bizarre direction, or certain characters do things that make no sense and even break the plot, the usual culprit is someone who thinks they have a real-world social affliction to address. There's no way John would have been replaced by another dude, and no one would think it logical or helpful to do so. His replacement--something that tore the fabric of the story--was purely because of the delusional belief that women need to be elevated in media. I mean, I know this is more/less common knowledge, but we're even seeing it in movies that are being digested by the audience at large--like Dune 2. When alterations, updates, or narrative decisions in general make no sense, it's usually because the filmmakers are trying to shoehorn in some kind of ideological nonsense.
@@schwaaard And this from a director who has ALREADY produced TWO of the most well-known and well-done examples of the "strong female character". The little cheerleader pretending to replace John Conner doesn't even qualify as a footnote next to Ellen Ripley and Sarah Conner in the GOOD Cameron movies.
@@stevenscott2136 For sure. But that's because (presumably) he didn't write them to combat some kind of perceived social ill or bias against women. (And the whole fallacy of fictional characters being empowering had not yet been conceived.) He did it because they were the protagonists, and protagonists must be capable and overcome their own shortcomings as well as the adversity put before them. And, the more grounded you can make that process, the more the characters resonate, and the less suspension of disbelief is required to make the story work out. I personally think the concept of a "strong" character--male or female--is a bit peculiar (considering the nature of protagonists, and the necessity of weaknesses and failures as well as strengths and triumphs to make them work), but certainly Sarah and Ellen were fare more realized than the newest wave of female characters. But that's because they were written to be fleshed out characters, not perfect ones. These days, female characters have to be the embodiment of all that is good and right, or they have to be fully justified (or sympathetic) in whatever evil undertaking they engage in; paragons of power and virtue that attempt to bolster the feminist lie, "You can have it all". People like Cameron have overshot their objective. He was on-point 30 years ago, and has just kept shooting wide of the mark ever since.
If this happens, no one will be able to deny that people are intentionally trying to devalue the studios and an investigation into stock manipulation must be conducted. These people must be holding massive short positions against the stock. It's the only possible explanation.
Agreed. And I'd say most of the old guard directors have lost name value. Spielberg might still have some, but most of the others are more likely to crank out dross than gold. And most the newer directors aren't even getting off the ground with the dearth of noteworthy films in the past 5-8 years.
Cameron can’t leave his time travelling robots alone and Scott can’t leave his black goo alone (Romulus was a welcome addition to the Alien franchise, but that final act killed it… we don’t want black goo mutants).
Maybe for you, those names still make a lot of money, still make groundbreaking cinema, and still are much better storytellers than most of the newer directors, and still create a hell of excitement for millions of people so maybe, for you and for some more Im sure it doesn't, and that's ok.
Last anime shows that they not have any new ideas. Its always about nostalgia, its always about same plot and same characters. They just need to leave it alone.
@@splawnrobert Alien Romulus was outstanding,? you've a really low bar if you think that facade was a good film...seriously...all I am advocating for is just ending all of these franchises....like a dying patient, if you care enough about preserving its legacy, end it.
Hollywood will try to milk all these IPs until it is physically impossible. There is just not enough creativity left in Hollywood and at the same time studios are afraid to try to create new IP's, because they think, that they make more money with old ones, which isn't really working either. It would be kind of funny, if it weren't so sad.
Yeah what they should have done was continue with the post-apocalypse movies and then end the franchise with John sending his father back in time completing the loop and then we see the future after humanity has won.
@@Mord12gp Yes! I would like a Terminator Resistance adaptation. My twist. It is Revealed Kyle the T-800 are alive this time, bringing back Michael Bien and Arnold one last time to reveal there in no fate but what we make, and Skynet's meddling made things EVEN WORSE this time around for them. Since the second time around John warns his father and T-2 happens with Kyle and the T-2. Sarah still dies of Cancer but John has more siblings. And the T-800 protects Kyle and John's Siblings while he leaves to find Kate and meet the T-850. That's an interesting final twist. Kind of like Frequency.
Yeah. I don't think Hollywood directors age like wine. There may be examples out there, but I think exposure to the industry only serves to warp and degrade over time.
Remember the Voyager episode with Brad Dourif? He plays a serial killer. Tuvok episode. What's logical about a serial killer? Totally underrated Star Trek. Just mentioning this episode so you could decompress. We remember.
The first two are the franchise. No more were ever needed. But why we never got a gritty future war movie in the style of the scenes from T1 and T2 showing John beating Skynet in the future timeline i’ll never know. Hollywood doesn’t like money🤷♂️
The most I can ever see is to have a Terminator Salvation sequel (Salvation 2), but I doubt it's ever going to happen. With Hollywood morally and ethically bankrupt and barely able to create good content, trusting them to make another Terminator movie is like giving the known local drunk the keys to your car.
Had Salvation kept its proper ending with Marcus 'becoming' John Connor, a sequel would have been interesting. Christian Bale playing Marcus in the next film was why his role as John was smaller in Salvation.
I agree, I really liked the concept of T4, fully going into the future war instead of rehashing the present once again. Sadly, T4 had a weak story and was too focused around this Marcus bullshit, but the base was really good.
James Cameron's ideas for future "Terminator" entries include: AvaTerm: Rise of the Blue Rabbits! Race-swapping the main character: "I'll be black!" Terminator, Too: The Titanic of blockbusters! Terminatrix: Because Bob Iger is too stupid to say, "No!"
@@brianmurphy6480 The actress who played the Terminatrix in T3 did a great job. Her cold robotic take on the character reminds me of Arnold in the original movie before the grinning “hasta la vista, baby” foolishness of T2.
@@jamescraig3598 Excellent! I was thinking about why Arnold was so much better as the cyborg in T1. It’s because he was a terrible actor, and his English wasn’t very good. Later on his acting skill and English improved and his cyborg suffered.
The Terminator: Resistance game from a few years back is, IMO, the third and final entry in the series because it's set during the future era and shows how Skynet was finally taken out and humanity saved, then it loops back to the first film by having you choose who to send back into time to save Sarah Connor. This game is effectively Terminator 0 and it creates a perfect time loop that both sets up the T1 and T2, whilst also ending the series in a satisfying way.
No kidding? He doesn't own the rights? Wow. --There's another comment here that suggest that was the case, but I thought Cameron (or his studio) owned terminator. Fascinating! (And would definitely explain this decision. Sadly, some of the most odorous outings can be chalked up to someone trying to keep the rights without having any true inspiration for another entry.)
You forgot, this is hollywood. Trans vs Terminator Non-binary vs terminator Terminator vs non-binary terminator. Pansexual who wants to sleep with a machine vs terminator. They've got a looong list to get through yet. 😄
@@TotesRandom Well...we already had a literally gender-fluid terminator that swapped sex on the regular; the T-1000 could be an icon of that movement. (Interestingly enough though, even when it adopted other guises, we knew its core was still 'male'--though we didn't bother to obsess about that sorta thing in the 90s.)
Hollywood just isn’t capable any longer of doing anything else other than trying to keep existing IP’s going. At least when it comes to big budget action stuff.
He's an ocean-exploration buff now, so he probably would make a pretty good documentary about the history of the search for the wreckage. Except he'd have to get Megan the Stallion to play Dr. Robert Ballard, in order to get the funding.
This is now akin to a form of torture. "We're going to keep creating the same 4-5 franchises over and over again until society loses its mind."
You know you dont have to watch them, right?
They’re sending us all back to books, the only source for new stories
@@basicfilmblogyou have not to watch them!
@@basicfilmblogactually if they're making this they're forcing us. Simple as.
"until society loses its mind"
Society lost it's mind a long time ago.
THIS is how the Terminators finally wipe out humanity. They make so many sequels that we all die of boredom. LULZ
We just give up and let the AI take us out
LOLOL lets gooooooo
"After the franchise wars, all restraunts are Taco Bell."
Same energy.
Lord knows I wouldn't mind a burrito
"Wait, _Schwarzenegger_ was President?"
More like Kentucky fried.
Vegan
Pizza Hut in a different timeline. :v
Its all about destroying what young men hold sacred.
The males who grew up in the 80s and 90s aren't young men anymore.
@@folksurvival Yeah but the same things still appeal to young men now.
@@folksurvival I've been addressed as "young man" twice this year, aged 45.
Same age as ... John Legend.
Young WHITE men
@@look_into_it Yes but my comments seem to get deleted when I include that part.
Jurassic park, Alien, Predators. They are all receiving the same treatment more or less.
Reminds me of the South Park episode where Spielberg and Lucas are giving Indiana Jones the Deliverance treatment.
sorry did i miss something , what happend to the Hunter's ?
"I'll be bad." - Terminator for the Mythical Modern Audience
The new Terminator is going to be a gay black guy . The Transgender/ Terminator .
@@santosmadrigal3702 Gives a whole new meaning to i need your clothes, boots and motorcycle.
@@leot6749 ouch ... you brut .
Hollyweird never stops it's BS....They can never leave well enough alone.
Exactly! How many great moves have they just smeared into the ground from endless freaking sequels of utter garbage...
@@annnymous604 none. A sequel has no bearing on the quality of a previous film.
"Ya couldn't leave well enough alone, could ya little twerp? Nah, you had to push it. Well now you're gonna pay."
Sooner or later, we knew this would happen. Hollywood does not create, it takes an old idea twists it around like a pretzel and fully expects were too stupid to see the BS.
They "fix" things until they are broken.
"They're going to keep making you do this until you're 90." Makes a lot more sense now.
Gen X was awesome in the early 90s making music, and is total crap now it's in charge of film studios...
Ha ha…brilliant. Not sure he 👆🏻 got it.
Beat the deadpool
@@JonZiegler6That was the Silent Gen and Boomers making all that. Gen X was just teenagers in the 90s.
@@Nylon_riot nirvana, sound garden, pearl jam, ect ect. You clearly don't know music
The saga was completed in T2. There is no need for more.
Terminator Resistance*
T1 it was complete as far sequels it ends at T3.
It was completed in the first movie. T2, for all it's awesomeness, is nothing more than a cash grab.
Not until white men are the villans
Terminator SCC.
Id like to see what happens after Terminator Salvation with Bale as John Conner but they wont make that
Terminator 69: The Quest for More Money
Wasn't that Spaceballs 2
@@tonygreenfield7820 no that was “Da SOICH fer more MONEY”
Terminator 69 the lunchbox, Terminator 69 the breakfast cereal, Terminator 69...the flame thrower! (Problem is, the merch only sells if the movie does well, and if the toys are halfway decent. Neither the toy industry or Hollywood are pulling their weight in that equation.)
At least Terminator Zero actually takes the ideas of the franchise in a new and interesting way that makes me want to know more...
Yes, there is no John Connor or even _any_ direct ties to the originals aside from references, but given how often the story of the Connors has been butchered since T3, this is a wise choice.
Wow my favorite sex pose wow
What are they going to even do? Go back in time to kill the fans?
If you actually understood the people running Hollywood and the people who control them, you would see that's exactly what they want.
We have to be unburdened by what has been.😠
Yes please.
Maybe this time Skynet is the good guy.
Apparently yes!
Star Wars, Star Trek, Dr Who, Terminator, etc etc etc. All examples of how reimagining a franchise for “modern audiences” doesn’t work. Let them RIP.
don’t forget the recent Crow reboot 😅
The reboots for “modern audiences” don’t count everyone knows which ones are the real ones and which ones are diverse modern garbage
And the "modern audiences" don't WANT them.
I'm not sure what they DO want, but they don't seem to be supporting these movies, so apparently they want something else.
@@stevenscott2136 They don't exist.
@@stevenscott2136 The "modern audience" wants exactly what we want, good movies/games/shows/comics/ect. But hollywood/game studios seem to think a very very small minority of people that cry for racism to go into overdrive and the mutilation of children are the entire audience when the box office, video game sales and EVERYTHING shows that they are not the actual audience and have no interest in even paying for this crap.
Until they learn that the "modern audience" is the same audience that has always existed we will continue to get everything destroyed.
The only way they'll stop making Terminator movies is when people stop watching them.
People already stopped watching them and yet they still keep making them. I think Hollywood just hates us at this point.
For years Terminator 2 was my favorite movie.
Five years out and I haven't even bothered to watch Dark Fate even though I could do it at any time for free. That's how much I care. Please make it stop.
Deadpool mocked Jackman with the "'Till you're 90" line, but Arnie actually lives it.
In fairness, we can say the exact same thing about the Jurassic Park and Alien franchises.
And soooooo many others
And Predator to an extent.
Yeah. And I didn't watch anything past the apocryphal movies in those series either. Alien 3 was disgusting and turned me off the whole idea of shoehorned sequels altogether. A second film can be great, answering all the questions raised by the first one. T2 and Aliens were great because of that. But if a film isn't based on a property which was designed to be episodic, (like Star Trek, or Mission Impossible), then eventual failure is written into its DNA.
That goes 10x for today, where everything is woke.
@@MarkOakleyComics Aliens was the last Alien film and was so Predator 2.
The only thing they're leaving alone so far is Back To The Future. They have ruined literally everything else
The same can be said for 'Alien' and 'Aliens'.
Resurection had some memorable moments, but a couple of great clips, do not a great movie make.
Alien could work with sequels, but Ripley's story should have ended in aliens.
@@bri55118Alien sequels/prequels/spin-offs could work without Ridley Scott’s black goo obsession.
We have to be unburdened by what has been.
Special edition of 3 is great.
I will NEVER watch a James Cameron production ever again after Dark Fate.
It's too bad they only made two Terminator movies, but I guess it's enough for me
The "Terminator" films are like the genders: there are only 2.
Snap!! 😂😂😂
Terminator 3 was a good movie. I don't much care for the hate it gets. The TV series had two good alternate universe seasons with two equally attractive female stars. The big weakness for that was John Connor. The other movies were flat out terrible money grabs that I didn't even care to watch.
@@n.d.m.515 its still pretty shit and not needed, second movie was good sound off for series, that kid will grow up to be mankind savers, there's even ending where they change the future
T3 felt like a TV movie.
What’s funny is the sim 1-3 agreed with that sentiment and then all of the sudden 4 didn’t.
I also like to point out it was apprantely James Cameron's idea to have them kill off John Conner at the start. And keep in mind, this is the same man who was heavily critical of the fact that both Newt and Hicks were killed off unceremoniously in the first five minutes of Alien 3, going so far as to call it a slap in the face to the fans. I guess, he didn't consider these same feelings when it came to fans of Terminator. I think Cameron should just leave Terminator alone, now and forever, and just focus on his alien Smurf movies. At least those are actually capable of generating money.
Guaranteed he got a Blackrock bonus for that!
Very true! Like all of us, directors can change over time...and when it comes to people in the Hollywood bubble, those changes are rarely for the better. The Avatar films prove he's still great when it comes to pursuing visual excellence, but also that he's fallen off a cliff when it comes to storytelling. To your point, I think the snazzy visuals of the "alien Smurfs" are the only thing that make his tripe palatable for the masses. --Which, up to about seven years ago, was Hollywood's MO: make the people sexy, make the effects eye-opening, and make the plot at least serviceable, and people will eagerly digest all the normalization, moral erosion, and subtle perversion the filmmaker wants to weave into the story. Terminator just doesn't have the razzle-dazzle or story potential needed to lull folks into embracing what will most certainly be tale for the yet-to-be-created modern audience.
l agree,the last Avatar installment was visually stunning but the finale was really disappointing(what happened to the Water Tribe?)😓
That suggests that he really took it as a slap in the face to *him* that someone else killed off *his* characters. He obviously doesn't mind or care what the fans think if he kills them off, himself.
@@death-king1834 The big mistake in the Terminator franchise was changing the rules of time travel. The first two movies establish that the very act of trying to change the past is what caused the events they were trying to change. If Skynet hadn’t sent the T800 back to kill John Connor’s mother, John Connor’s mother never would’ve met his father, the soldier from the future. In T2, although it requires a few assumptions by the audience, the attack on CyberDyne is probably the very thing that made them program self-preservation into their AI. It’s a closed loop. No people out of time who remember alternate versions of reality. Very clean, very close to perfect.
Then they jump from Terminator rules to Back To The Future rules.
Hollywood only see's one thing in Terminator, the money. The first film had a budget of $6.4 million and grossed $78.3 Million, and they want that again.
They will never repeat that success ever again with Terminator 😂
Except now they will spend $150 million and make $50 million
@@floydlooney6837that's crazy.
Exactly this, while not a perfect film, The Creator at least told an "original" story in this genre and sent garbage. While I. Didn't cost a fortune to make, it didn't make enough to convince studios that a film about humans and robots fighting can be anything but terminator...
The success of the first two Terminator movies will never be repeated no matter how many times they try to reinvent the franchise.
They should never have strayed from the horror element of the first movie. The T-800 effectively became a cybernetic clown at times.
He wasnt a clown in T2, that smile scene is just a comical reminder to John that this machine is not human, it's purpose is not to only "blend in" but to terminate.
So very true. While T2 is a masterpiece, it lacks the horror and brutality of T1, which is why this will also always remain a classic. Not timeless, because it heavily carries the 80s label, but it does so in the most awesome way. 80s cinema at it's peak. Afterall, it is the incarnation of a killer robot. Unstoppable and fierce. T2 dialed this down a lot, and it was basically abscent from the other movies (except T4, but which only had single moments of it).
@marcfuchs6938 just rewatched T2 last night on netflix. The T1000 stabs ppl through the head several times. How is it not a horror movie? It's scarier than the T800 from 84.
@@bantuboi3131 T2 tends a little more to the direction of splatter in my opinion, less horro. I believe it has to do with being machine VS. Machine in T2, 2 soulless things opposing each other, there is no fear. In T1, it is Sarah and Kyle against the Terminator, in a time without tze weapon technologie to effectively attack the machine. They are basically without defense against it, needing to run at any moment. In addition, Reese telling his stories and his trauma he has with the machines adds to this whole theme of it being a true nightmare. T1 just showed the brutality of the machine war in a more realistic, graspable way, where T2 is more a classic action set piece without awaking this existential dredd as much. In single moments with the T1000, sure. But over the entire movie, less than T1.
@marcfuchs6938 fair point. I think the fact that the T800's skin disguise is rotting and decomposing towards the end of the movie adds to the horror aspect, too. That creeped me out when I saw it for the first time. Reminded me of Edgar from Men in Black. He got more gross as the movie progressed as well.
I agree. Sometimes the best choice is to stop when you're ahead and be satisfied with what you have. Hollywood, being comprised of corporations beholden to shareholders wanting constant or increasing returns, being under threat from growing international competition, may not be capable of doing that.
I'm pretty sure Arnold is old enough to be an actual cyborg by now: titanium hips, pacemaker etc.
Waking up naked in strange places and stalking young women
You actually are a cyborg if you have any metal in your body. That's the definition. Pacemaker makes a cyborg and that's freaking rad.
@@JoakimOtamaaI'm pretty sure a cyborg needs to have some kind of robotic augmentation. I don't think I'd count a pacemaker as augmentation; if anything it's fixing a flaw, not adding ability.
@@nthgth I'm just remembering an article either from Wikipedia or Finnish Science Magazine from years ago so I'm probably wrong but it does sound cool to say if one's a cyborg.
@@JoakimOtamaa oh I'm sure I'd call myself one if I had something like that in me 😄
I'll be back....again and again and again.....
*"You've been back enough."*
- Bruce Willis
May your childhood go mainstream, is the worst thing to hear as an adult.
At least it's making 3 look great now.
The ext cut of T3 with Eddie Furlong is awesome!
Ok, then our next step is to keep sinking lower and lower in order to make the past more and more rose-tinted; just like in mainstream politics.
@@beingsshepherd
The ext cut of T2 and DARK FATE are also awesome
Is SkyNet the Patriarchy?
or
Is SkyNet Big Government?
Let's call it for what it is: Franchise milking.
At this point, the udders are bleeding!! 😆
IP: I got teats too, Hollywood--you gonna milk me?
Hollywood is bankrupt of new ideas and stories. That's why they keep doing this sort of thing.
That's exactly right.
And many of the writers are to lazy to come up with original ideas as they are likely on twitter screaming about nonsense!!
This is only part of it. It's not entirely their fault. There's a phenomenon where, in the past, there was fewer competition for entertainment IPs and franchises, so things stood out more. That's magnified even further when we look at the past only remembering the standout movies and shows. A brand new franchise is lost in the sea of modern choices and has a very hard time succeeding even when it's good. While something like The Terminator can succeed even when it's bad. You're here talking about it.
I think that totally nails it. They have banned creative passion from the business, so it is only natural that only corporate garbage emerges, that does nothing but go down a checklist for every creation they put out. It is astounging, how they STILL fail to realize, that cranking diversity to 11, being more inclusive than inclusivity itself and trying to appeal to every single humanoid creature on the planet all at once gets you nowhere.
I personally like how Hollywood and big parts of the gaming world turned bad all together. Because I am in the process of launching an own fully animated channel, that comes with an insane amount of work, and having less distraction from that leaves me with more time being constructive. If only........ I wouldn't still waste too much time on RUclips.......
Evil cant create anything.
I think “Back To The Future” is the only great series remaining that has not been contaminated. Hopefully it will be left alone.
That and _Police Academy_ of course.
LoTR too
The Hobbit, Rings of Power ... 🤔
I love how Robert Zemekis has basically told everyone to piss off, when it comes to the idea of rebooting/remaking BTTF.
Shhhhh not too loud Hollywood is listening
Completely agree with you on everything you said.
The Terminator should have been a trillogy and nothing more. The origional Terminator and Terminator 2 and then a Kyle Reese focused "Prequil" if you will that followed Kyle starting as a kid, judgement day hits when he's arout 8-10 years old, and then following his life till the humans are victorious and he's choosen to go back in time. John Connor would weave in and out of the story a couple times almost like a supporting character (saving and recuriting Kyle as a teen when John is still low to mid rank, and maybe giving a mission briefing to Kyles team to capture and retrieve a damaged T-800 when John is higher rank) but not be a major character in any way till they are planning and executing the final assault at the end.
I guess Arnold was right:
“I’ll be back.”
I wish that TV series you mentioned got one last season. It left off with them being stuck in the future, separated from each other.
The only post T2 entry that's worth watching
@@Mopark25 I said the same thing.
Everytime I rewatch TSCC I am sad by that cliffhanger. 😢
@@Mopark25 The anime that just came out is alright
Even better, you can blame Joss Whedon
I only liked the first season. Once they started getting into the wacky timeline hijinks, I was done.
Hollywood has became such a niche and exclusive industry, it is devoid of creativity and talent. This is all it has.
It's a closed industry, always has been. Unless you're a member of a certain part of society then chances are you'll never make it. The fact that it's a social club is the reason why so many of them are clueless and talentless, and just churning out crap.
Go watch Terminator Zero and then tell me you still don't have hope for Terminator. Fresh ideas and breaking away from Arnold and the Connors changes everything.
At the time of its releaae, T3 was praised by the critics for its self-awareness (the humor). That was actually a strength for the movie, as far as people were concerned in 2003, but it created the slippery slope of the further sequels being too slapstick.
And yes, TSCC was actually very good. Fortunately, it's available for purchase on Google TV. The series ended on something of a cliffhanger, but it also ended the story arc for season 2 well enough. Just wish we could have gotten at least an abbreviated 3rd and final season to wrap things up.
2:24 Because it’s always about the same goal my friend. Making Money
Guys like James Cameron and Ridley Scott really need to step down, chill and enjoy their lives, instead of ruining their reputation.
I don’t know why this is so hard for them to understand. The first two movies were great and all anyone needed. Story told and completed. Everything else that followed were unnecessary cash grabs. Just stop, Hollywood!
It's like a child telling you the same joke 100 times and not understanding why you don't find it funny after the 2nd time.
Capitalism runs on the premise of "if it worked once, it will work again... and again... and again..." - ANY successful idea will get milked until dead. And then the corpse gets split into tiny pieces, which ar esold for profit.
At least Terminator Zero actually takes the ideas of the franchise in a new and interesting way that makes me want to know more...
Yes, there is no John Connor or even _any_ direct ties to the originals aside from references and ideas, but given how often the story of the Connors has been butchered since T3, this is a wise choice.
Sara Conner Chronicles was excellent (rewatched it recently). Alas ended on cliffhanger.
3 movies. The first 3 movies.
This is beyond beating a dead horse at this point in time.
"Sir. Sir! The horse has long since been cleared away. You're flogging a patch of pavement."
They cloned it, killed it again, sent it to the taxidermist, and continued to flog away.
They turned it into glue, and then started huffing it!
You revealed the endoskeleton of the Terminator horse
Cancelling The chronicles was a huge mistake imho.
Terminator Zero, the anime on Netflix is pretty effin good.
I have just watched that deleted scene with an elderly Sarah Connor. Wow, what a fantastic ending.
I don't see how anyone can think that's better than the highway at night theatrical ending.
*"The unknown future rolls toward us. I face it for the first time with a sense of hope, because if a machine, a Terminator, can learn the value of human life, maybe we can too."*
That. SLAPS. And nothing will ever top it. Terminator shouldn't have a unicorns and rainbows happy ending. Hope doesn't exist in the bright of day, it exists surrounded by darkness and uncertainty. Terminator is a dark story, and the alternate ending is too bright, metaphorically AND literally. I feel like that scene was filmed with mirrors reflecting as much sunlight onto the set as possible. It's disgusting. 🤮
It’s IP ownership. I bet there is a deal that a film has to made before IP is forfeit.
That's messed up
@@scifirealism5943how? Like if I buy the right to exclusively use a thing than it should be required to use the thing no
I believe that's only true if the people using the IP aren't the original owners. I think Fox's agreement with Marvel is that they have to produce "x" number of projects over "x" number of years or the licenses on the characters will go back to Marvel (or Disney, or whoever actually owns the rights at this point). If the folks holding the rights to Terminator are the owners, they don't have to do anything. --As other folks have mentioned, Back to the Future hasn't been touched by the IP butchery because the creator also has the rights, and he's not letting anyone touch it.
Edit: I just saw in another comment that Gale Ann Heard owns the rights--so you're probably correct! I didn't realize Cameron didn't own the franchise.
@@addex1236you should be allowed to do whatever you damn well please with it. Even if that's nothing at all.
"Somehow Terminator returned" 😂😂😂
Good one!
Hollywood is a dying business , cuz they refuse to take risks anymore stuck on sequels and spinoffs and remakes
@@sabgogo7393 In fairness, you can blame the general audience for this as well. They complain about not getting new things, but when it comes out, they rarely support it.
@@rhedosaurus2251 the marketing sucks
You are all correct. It’s a combination of factors contributing to Hollywood’s decline.
Got to keep that IP alive to sell mercy, bro 🤑
Will Cameron make "Titanic II"? After all, there's so much more to say about that story. 😂😂😂😂😂
He'll title it...
"Lusitania", with the exact same beats...
Rose will find another homeless dude...
And pass off the baby to her loyal devoted husband.
He could actually do 'Titanic II: Britannic' and 'Titanic III: Olympic.' Both the Titanic's sister Olympic Class ships had interesting lives... I was always surprised Cameron didn't tell the story of Britannic, its war service and sinking. Olympic was decommissioned in the 1930s.
A film about the inquiry that followed could definitely make an interesting movie.
R101 the titanic of the sky.
Titanic 2: The Revenge 😂
Jurassic Park too
Hollywood can never just let the horse die.
Stallone is returning too with geriatric botox Rambo
The anime terminator zero is pretty good.
All I want is a last season of Sarah Conner Chronicles, and we'll never get one.
There are only 2 films.
I got to see both on release in the cinema!
There are*
@@DarthVader1977 "There are four lights!"
Three was great.
Definitely .
It couldn’t possibly be worse than the last one where they killed off John, that utterly destroyed the entire premise of the franchise. The entire point was the one person that could bring down Skynet was John, but if some girl can just take his place then what the machines is doing is pointless. If someone else can just take Johns place then what’s the point in constantly going back in time?
That's one of the easiest ways to determine if something stems from a woke mindset. When a story goes in a very bizarre direction, or certain characters do things that make no sense and even break the plot, the usual culprit is someone who thinks they have a real-world social affliction to address. There's no way John would have been replaced by another dude, and no one would think it logical or helpful to do so. His replacement--something that tore the fabric of the story--was purely because of the delusional belief that women need to be elevated in media. I mean, I know this is more/less common knowledge, but we're even seeing it in movies that are being digested by the audience at large--like Dune 2. When alterations, updates, or narrative decisions in general make no sense, it's usually because the filmmakers are trying to shoehorn in some kind of ideological nonsense.
@@schwaaard And this from a director who has ALREADY produced TWO of the most well-known and well-done examples of the "strong female character".
The little cheerleader pretending to replace John Conner doesn't even qualify as a footnote next to Ellen Ripley and Sarah Conner in the GOOD Cameron movies.
@@stevenscott2136 Yeah, the cheerleader would be one of the characters who dies at THE BEGINNING of one of the good Cameron films.
@@stevenscott2136 For sure. But that's because (presumably) he didn't write them to combat some kind of perceived social ill or bias against women. (And the whole fallacy of fictional characters being empowering had not yet been conceived.) He did it because they were the protagonists, and protagonists must be capable and overcome their own shortcomings as well as the adversity put before them. And, the more grounded you can make that process, the more the characters resonate, and the less suspension of disbelief is required to make the story work out. I personally think the concept of a "strong" character--male or female--is a bit peculiar (considering the nature of protagonists, and the necessity of weaknesses and failures as well as strengths and triumphs to make them work), but certainly Sarah and Ellen were fare more realized than the newest wave of female characters. But that's because they were written to be fleshed out characters, not perfect ones.
These days, female characters have to be the embodiment of all that is good and right, or they have to be fully justified (or sympathetic) in whatever evil undertaking they engage in; paragons of power and virtue that attempt to bolster the feminist lie, "You can have it all".
People like Cameron have overshot their objective. He was on-point 30 years ago, and has just kept shooting wide of the mark ever since.
This one they want to kill off Arnie as well as Sarah and john
If this happens, no one will be able to deny that people are intentionally trying to devalue the studios and an investigation into stock manipulation must be conducted. These people must be holding massive short positions against the stock. It's the only possible explanation.
So it's a real-life version of The Producers?
@raywallacefan7786 basically, yeah.
James Cameron has lost his marbles like Ridley Scott has.
They want John Cena in this thing so badly. 🤖
What we want is King Conan.
Grandpa Conan.
We want King Conan. *They* want Queen Conan.
Damn right !
James Cameron like Ridley Scott is a has been and both their names no longer create excitement when attached to films.
Agreed. And I'd say most of the old guard directors have lost name value. Spielberg might still have some, but most of the others are more likely to crank out dross than gold. And most the newer directors aren't even getting off the ground with the dearth of noteworthy films in the past 5-8 years.
@@schwaaardnah same goes for Spielberg.
@@Vilfy Fair enough! Last project I remember that had his name was Tin Tin, and that was a fun outing. Haven't really tracked him since.
Cameron can’t leave his time travelling robots alone and Scott can’t leave his black goo alone (Romulus was a welcome addition to the Alien franchise, but that final act killed it… we don’t want black goo mutants).
Maybe for you, those names still make a lot of money, still make groundbreaking cinema, and still are much better storytellers than most of the newer directors, and still create a hell of excitement for millions of people so maybe, for you and for some more Im sure it doesn't, and that's ok.
All I can think of is that Simpsons episode where Homer beats up McBurgular. Stop! It’s already dead! 😂
😂
Only Simpsons joke that made me cry laughing.
The best Terminator media isn't even a film. It's this often ignored and highly underrated television show and I'll die on this hill.
The show is great, better than any movie or media that came after T2.
Hollywood just don't know when to quit
This time nothing can go wrong!
Hollywood just can't let the dead rest in peace can they?
So say Peter Cushing's estate.
Last anime shows that they not have any new ideas. Its always about nostalgia, its always about same plot and same characters. They just need to leave it alone.
I saw the first two in the theater back in the day and loved both of them. I was done after that. Hollywood is bankrupt of ideas.
The game Terminator resistance,
And Terminator Zero anime on netflix is what the sega needed.
Terminator: The Multiverse!
They did that in Genisys.
Same with Predator and Aliens, ffs....please, enough already.
Uh....um.....
ALlEN ROMULUS was outstanding!
When alien fans make an alien movie, then it's a winner !
@@splawnrobert Uh...um..... It was HORRENDOUS!
@@zerogrey3798
L0L
Agree to disagree. Peace 🙏
@@splawnrobert Alien Romulus was outstanding,? you've a really low bar if you think that facade was a good film...seriously...all I am advocating for is just ending all of these franchises....like a dying patient, if you care enough about preserving its legacy, end it.
Prey was pretty cool… 🥲
Hollywood will try to milk all these IPs until it is physically impossible. There is just not enough creativity left in Hollywood and at the same time studios are afraid to try to create new IP's, because they think, that they make more money with old ones, which isn't really working either. It would be kind of funny, if it weren't so sad.
Somewhere Harlan Ellison is laughing
What I've seen, the animated Terminator Zero looks and sounds pretty good.
I watched it and believe me, the story is well written unlike the Hollywood sequels.
I happily live in a world with only Two Terminator Movies. Also goes for Aliens and Predator. ONLY 2 EACH!!!!!!
Terminator & T2 Judgement Day
Alien & Aliens
Predator & Predators
@@ellugerdelacruz2555 Correction: Predator and Predator 2
@@white-dragon4424
Bruh, Predarors is a whole lot better than Predator in the City.
@@ellugerdelacruz2555 you mean the movie where Topher Grace was suddenly a bad guy? Yeah, no
@@ellugerdelacruz2555 Predator and Predator 2 for me.
Bring it on. The franchise is basically s comedy now
They need to get Christian Bale back to finish the Salvation trilogy.
Yeah what they should have done was continue with the post-apocalypse movies and then end the franchise with John sending his father back in time completing the loop and then we see the future after humanity has won.
@@Mord12gp Yes! I would like a Terminator Resistance adaptation.
My twist. It is Revealed Kyle the T-800 are alive this time, bringing back Michael Bien and Arnold one last time to reveal there in no fate but what we make, and Skynet's meddling made things EVEN WORSE this time around for them.
Since the second time around John warns his father and T-2 happens with Kyle and the T-2. Sarah still dies of Cancer but John has more siblings. And the T-800 protects Kyle and John's Siblings while he leaves to find Kate and meet the T-850.
That's an interesting final twist. Kind of like Frequency.
@@balrog262 Not bad.
But what do you think about Alien vs Predator vs Terminator??? Cause I got an idea for a story.
@@Mord12gp Maybe a little too over the top.
@@balrog262 That's the point, its just meant to be FUN
"Terminator franchise was a two film franchise in my opinion." Not opinion, IT'S A FACT.
James Cameron is now 70 and hasn’t produced anything of note since 2009 when he was 55.
Not since the 80's
I hate how he bashes comicbook films.
Yeah. I don't think Hollywood directors age like wine. There may be examples out there, but I think exposure to the industry only serves to warp and degrade over time.
Since T2 more like.
@@peterlenham3180 that or True Lies. Avatar when it came out was technically cool (I guess) but thematically stupid
James camoron just let it go
Remember the Voyager episode with Brad Dourif? He plays a serial killer. Tuvok episode. What's logical about a serial killer? Totally underrated Star Trek. Just mentioning this episode so you could decompress. We remember.
The first two are the franchise. No more were ever needed. But why we never got a gritty future war movie in the style of the scenes from T1 and T2 showing John beating Skynet in the future timeline i’ll never know. Hollywood doesn’t like money🤷♂️
The most I can ever see is to have a Terminator Salvation sequel (Salvation 2), but I doubt it's ever going to happen. With Hollywood morally and ethically bankrupt and barely able to create good content, trusting them to make another Terminator movie is like giving the known local drunk the keys to your car.
Had Salvation kept its proper ending with Marcus 'becoming' John Connor, a sequel would have been interesting. Christian Bale playing Marcus in the next film was why his role as John was smaller in Salvation.
I agree, I really liked the concept of T4, fully going into the future war instead of rehashing the present once again. Sadly, T4 had a weak story and was too focused around this Marcus bullshit, but the base was really good.
@@marcfuchs6938true. A lot of missed potential.
James Cameron's ideas for future "Terminator" entries include:
AvaTerm: Rise of the Blue Rabbits!
Race-swapping the main character: "I'll be black!"
Terminator, Too: The Titanic of blockbusters!
Terminatrix: Because Bob Iger is too stupid to say, "No!"
@@brianmurphy6480 The actress who played the Terminatrix in T3 did a great job. Her cold robotic take on the character reminds me of Arnold in the original movie before the grinning “hasta la vista, baby” foolishness of T2.
That wasn't acting - that was her entire emotional range. @@MrJeffcoley1
@@jamescraig3598 Excellent! I was thinking about why Arnold was so much better as the cyborg in T1. It’s because he was a terrible actor, and his English wasn’t very good. Later on his acting skill and English improved and his cyborg suffered.
You gave me an idea..."Wallace and Gromit Meet the Terminator". Have it all done with plasticine stop-motion animation.
Terminator ended at salvation for me as it leaves it open ended for the first movie to play out exactly as it originally happened
Yep, that was smart 🙂
Terminator, Alien, Predator - all examples of 2-movie franchises that have been completely sullied & ruined.
The Terminator: Resistance game from a few years back is, IMO, the third and final entry in the series because it's set during the future era and shows how Skynet was finally taken out and humanity saved, then it loops back to the first film by having you choose who to send back into time to save Sarah Connor. This game is effectively Terminator 0 and it creates a perfect time loop that both sets up the T1 and T2, whilst also ending the series in a satisfying way.
No mention of Terminator Zero? 😢
As far as I’m concerned TZ is the official continuation from T2.
@@DinoslayNo need for such a continuation.
I not watching it unless the robots are gay.
Trans surely
Black, Trans and gay
Sperminator
@@jaysonraphaelmurdock8812 I think that one was made already, just not by Hollywood.
Long live the Star Wars Holiday Special
Which thanks to Kathleen Kennedy is no longer the worse thing in the Star Wars universe.
I can't wait....WOOOOOOOOW🤯
T2 and T3 are actually my favorites. T2, T3 then T1.
T1, T2, T3
the devil can't create
This should come as a surprise to no one. The copyright goes back to Gale Ann Heard if Cameron doesn't continue making them.
No kidding? He doesn't own the rights? Wow. --There's another comment here that suggest that was the case, but I thought Cameron (or his studio) owned terminator. Fascinating! (And would definitely explain this decision. Sadly, some of the most odorous outings can be chalked up to someone trying to keep the rights without having any true inspiration for another entry.)
The studio owns the rights.
Not JC.
How many different combinations can you even have?
Man Vs terminator
Terminator Vs terminator
There I've listed every single watch worthy combination
You forgot, this is hollywood.
Trans vs Terminator
Non-binary vs terminator
Terminator vs non-binary terminator.
Pansexual who wants to sleep with a machine vs terminator.
They've got a looong list to get through yet. 😄
@@TotesRandom you are correct 💯😂
@@TotesRandom Well...we already had a literally gender-fluid terminator that swapped sex on the regular; the T-1000 could be an icon of that movement. (Interestingly enough though, even when it adopted other guises, we knew its core was still 'male'--though we didn't bother to obsess about that sorta thing in the 90s.)
T1 and T2 are
Cinematic Perfection.
Everything else - simply does not exist.
Hollywood just isn’t capable any longer of doing anything else other than trying to keep existing IP’s going. At least when it comes to big budget action stuff.
Terminator Zero was shockingly good.
At this point, if you gave him the $$$.. Cameron would make Titanic 2
He's an ocean-exploration buff now, so he probably would make a pretty good documentary about the history of the search for the wreckage.
Except he'd have to get Megan the Stallion to play Dr. Robert Ballard, in order to get the funding.
@@stevenscott2136 Ironically, that's who I thought Bill Paxton would have been playing in Titanic, but no, wasted opportunity on Cameron's part.