A Messy and Unhinged Introduction to Geoengineering
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- Опубликовано: 3 окт 2023
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Omg mum I'm a part of pizzamas! So glad that you were welcoming enough to chat with us about this amazing (and incredibly nuanced) topic!
The best way to deal with a trolley problem that you absolutely cannot avoid, is to research the potential impacts and then set up a mitigation plan. I'm an anthropologist and I know from field work that no matter what you change, no matter how good the project is, someone is always negatively impacted. The job is to figure out who that will be, discover what kind of harm will fall on them, and then put a plan in place to address it. In a situation like this where the impacts are unknown, we need to have immigration policies in place and disaster relief in place before we do anything. Because if we trash an entire country with our efforts, we can't be scrambling in the aftermath to figure out what to do with the people, because quite frankly we know how that will go. A bunch of xenophobes will do everything they can to prevent necessary mitigation. It always happens. So if we are going to do geoengineering, we need to be sure to have a huge amount of money set aside to help the people who have been impacted before, not after.
I sometimes wonder about the irreversible consequences of NOT doing climate engineering. Like if we don't do marine cloud brightening or whatever and some species goes extinct because a really bad heat wave wipes it out, isn't that also an irreversible change?
Between John's hyperfixation on fighting disease and Hank's on Geoengineering, they genuinely might save the world.
Geoegineering reminds me of the numerous times we've introduced nonnative animals into ecosystems to control pests and accidentally created a far worse situation.
I for one look forward to our political leaders implementing the cheapest last minute solution to climate change that our corporate overlords can come up with.
Why does this feel like it was sponsored by Bill Gates
"It was an oopsy, now it's more like a 'Stop hitting yourself' situation." Oil companies hold the rest of us hostage
Before watching this video I was incredibly surprised to hear that geoengineering was controversial. It sounded to me like it was purely beneficial. I really cannot overstate the value of someone with a platform like yours talking about the nuances of such an incredibly important topic in such an easily digestible way. Thank you so much
Hank, long time watcher... etc. I wanted to pop in and say how happy it has made me to watch you bounce back. This is not condescension, I'm also a cancer survivor. Mine was grade 3 brain cancer. I, too, am doing well post treatment. I want you (and John) to know how much I love you and value you as... just... the best kind of humans! ❤
I really wish we had the same caution we're showing towards geoengineering towards fucking with the environment "incidentally."
Love Hanks energy in this video. Comparing the burning of fossil fuels with "punching yourself in the face" has to be my favorite analogy of 2023.
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Not until this video did I realise how thankless your job really is. Here you are, making an insightful, well-researched essay on geo-engineering, and my main takeaway is: Ooooo, new Neal Stephenson novel!
It feels like the biggest push back to geoengineering is maintaining ignorance. That as long as we don't know the consequences of our actions then we can do them freely and not feel responsible.
The point on countries unilaterally doing geoengineering and it negatively affecting other countries really struck a cord for me. The construction of dams over international rivers have been sparking water conflicts between upstream and downstream countries. Rivers have defined boundaries and their mechanics are very well known, while rain and other climate systems are very chaotic and lack clear boundaries.
On the topic of fossil fuel companies funding geoengineering: I think people's concerns (or at least mine) are more around the opportunity cost of allowing FF companies to fund solely geoengineering research INSTEAD of accelerating funding for proven solutions (wind, solar, batteries, etc). If they focus their capital only on geoengineering (since that will benefit them most), the energy transition may slow down significantly because of it.
"It was initially an oopsie, it's not really an oopsie anymore; now it's like a 'stop hittin yourself' kind of situation" 😆😆
I’m so glad you’re here Hank, the way you speak is clear and objective, it deserves appreciation
When I watched your ship trails video I made a joke to a co-worker saying, "We should nuke the oceans." Suggesting that it would throw a lot of salt water in the air. But then he pointed out that we've already done that, and maybe I could look up to see if there was a temperature dip. Which, I'm kind of afraid to do for fear of having dangerous information. It would probably be bad to know that actually works.