WARNING: At Amazon it is not an Amazon Gift Card btw. I learned the hard way after I bought it. it is a promotional digital credit and has to be used in one order and only for things sold by amazon and it expires if not used by Jan 31, 2025. There is also another quirk that if you combine things sold by amazon and things not sold by amazon in a single order.. the credit won't be applied at all to that order, even for the things sold by amazon.
@@manp1039 wow, bummer. The stipulations are definitely set to make it harder for a customer to get their credit, just like mail-in rebates are set to do. Even though it's not the same thing, I had Meta screw me and a family member out of a $30.00 each referral bonus for referring that family member to get a Quest 3. I still have no idea why it didn't work, yet I have had successful referral bonus(es) in the past. Dumb stuff.
@@manp1039 That's a great deal. Amazon carries everything. I got it from Best buy and I had to buy whatever Best buy carried. Which is basically nothing.
I'm glad that VR controllers are basically standardized cross-platform It makes porting far easier for devs and I don't think divergences shoukd happen unless it's a significant improvement/value add
theyre not that standard though, if valve is putting a d pad on theirs. never seen that on any other. and index is the only one with a track pad and thumbstick with finger tracking and grip force sense...
@@ge2719 Index is pretty old so I'd consider that pre-standardization And imo, the dpad is a minor enough change to not obstruct devs and players but also add value to the point that this could become the new standard
Yeah, but the BIG downside is that we go back on the advancements we had in VR controllers. Seems like we wont have finger tracking and go back to a grip button.... The Index made every other controller feel outdated, even to this day.
@@xXYannuschXx true. but at the same time, i dont think i've ever used anything that actually made use of the finger tracking beyond what is capable with capacitive touch on the buttons of the controller. Squeezing cans in half life alyx is pretty much the only use of the grip force sensor and i dont think it really feels all that great since theres no physical feedback to know when you're squeezing things. Which was terrible for half life 2 vr mod as it meant you'd be walking around grabbing things without even realising, or dropping things without realising. with a button you know you're pressing it or not. similarly with the track pad, i'm a fan of the track pad on the steam controller, but thats useful for aiming in a way that works far better than with a thumbstick on a controller. But in vr you actually aim, so the trackpad becomes another ambiguous input that you can accidentally brush and set of without realising. it was a good step forward but idk if it really works all that well for vr over having definite buttons.
Valve going back to grip buttons feels just wrong. The Knuckles made every other controller feel outdated, even to this day. I hope that those are just the standard controllers and that you can pick up "pro controllers" that still have finger tracking and grip sensing.
Great vid! About Quest 3 updates, do you now have the new settings update on your Quest, or still pending? Mine's still old settings view, and wondering if it's just unique to my headset.
Im very happy to see AV1 getting latency improvements. Its perfect timing, considering i just bought an RTX 40 series GPU, specifically for the benefits if AV1 this black friday
I had hoped that the new controllers should have a ring, for that is the most logical solution, but maybe not plastic but made out of hard rubber that would not break and also help to protect he hands. For the Quest3 controllers I have id a design flaw, for if you hold them in your hand and turn the hand and then twist your arm like you hold a gun sideways (for the coolness factor) the whole controller and all the trackers are hidden from view, and the smaller number of tracking point is what make a Quest 3 controller much worse then the old controllers, and the new headsets that go down the same rout will get the same trouble. The most annoying thing is that I have 3 lighthouses from Vive, but they are not able to track anything else than the tracking pucks from Vive 😞 Well, I liked this video and the information, but your sound do sound a bit too muffled, a bit like you have too much sound dampening, it still good and clear.
Are you in contact with Poland based VR studios? I know that the guys recreating Medieval Dynasty in VR are from Poland, and I think there is more small teams around that I don't remember.
Its a productivity update.. you literally can't read screens or keyboards with that trash low res b&w passthrough. Quest 2 wasn't going to last forever
My quest 2 has aged fine? (havent used it in weeks-months) tbh im just waiting for the deckard to come out. The new ryzen APU’s are gonna be really good (4070-ish laptop GPU) so I feel like when they start making the custom deckard chips it will be powerful! (That is if they will be going the custom chips it route, most likely)
Thought about getting the 3S, then I realized its screen quality isn't much better then the old Oculus Rift headset. I wouldn't want a new machine with that quality. :(
What? Lmao. The Quest 2 saw a huge quality boost compared to a RiftS, thanks to its higher pixel density. The same displays in the 3S. You're kidding yourself if you think it's anything like the original rift
@@smittyvanjagermanjenson182 I think the previous specs I read showed the wrong resolution for the 3S. Does this resolution look right? Rift: 1080x1200 per-eye Quest 3s: 1832x1920 per-eye Quest 3: 2064x2208 per-eye The resolution I found before wasn't much better than the Rift specs, which I should have questioned it more.
Oh, "cool"! New features. Let's see if I get them before GTA6. I'm FINALLY on v71 but I'm STILL missing features from v69. Meta, don't you know what version numbers are for? And tracked keyboards? I ordered the Logitech K830. Twice. One of the officially supported keyboards. It's on a list in Quest OS and also on the support website. But neither Logitech nor Meta felt the need to make it clear that Logitech sells two different versions of that keyboard under EXACTLY the same name as K830. Not K830 and K830B, no, both are named K830. And unfortunately, one version doesn't have Bluetooth, so you can't connect it to the Quest. When you connect the USB dongle, you can use it to type, but it's not tracked. Okay, so I ordered it again, but this time I made sure to order the Bluetooth version. Just to find out that Meta doesn't support any other than the US keyboard layout, wich is a big problem for me as a German QWERTZ user. Now my keyboard is tracked, but the Quest then renders a US keyboard instead of the Germany one I own. Wanna know what is really making this ridiculously stupid? There are official Meta support pages explaining how to connect your tracked keyboard written IN FUCKING GERMAN? So Meta never felt the need to add the minor side information that that text is very certainly completely irrelevant for most people reading it.
@@TheMysticle I watch RUclips in the browser on my phone because the app doesn't work properly. Unfortunately, the setting isn't there, which is why I couldn't find it. But it works on the PC. Thanks :D
What is even the point in Valve making a VR headset if it doesn't have something unique? It's just gonna be like any other boring VR headset without finger tracking
At the same time I'm Happy that valve controller are basically a xbox controller with 3d space position but at the same time I'm disappointed in vr you are supposed to be a controller and not to have more button inputs
Its not a bad thing for flat gaming. I personally find it annoying having to pair an Xbox controller every time I want to play a traditional title. These Roy controllers are a smart step towards eliminating that friction
Oh hell nah it automatically changed the audio track to my language (German) and it sounds HORRIBLE (Weird TTS voice).
For me to...
How to change that...
Settings Language
Just change the audio track
😂😂😂😂
I really hate that we cannot disable that option by default.
That $75 gift card is a great deal with the Quest 3s, but if you can... get the Quest 3. SO much better than the Quest 2!
WARNING: At Amazon it is not an Amazon Gift Card btw. I learned the hard way after I bought it. it is a promotional digital credit and has to be used in one order and only for things sold by amazon and it expires if not used by Jan 31, 2025. There is also another quirk that if you combine things sold by amazon and things not sold by amazon in a single order.. the credit won't be applied at all to that order, even for the things sold by amazon.
@@manp1039That’s annoying
@@manp1039 wow, bummer. The stipulations are definitely set to make it harder for a customer to get their credit, just like mail-in rebates are set to do. Even though it's not the same thing, I had Meta screw me and a family member out of a $30.00 each referral bonus for referring that family member to get a Quest 3. I still have no idea why it didn't work, yet I have had successful referral bonus(es) in the past. Dumb stuff.
I got the gift card first best buy which I used to get get 2 PS5 games and a couple of accessories for my Quest 3
@@manp1039 That's a great deal. Amazon carries everything. I got it from Best buy and I had to buy whatever Best buy carried. Which is basically nothing.
I'm glad that VR controllers are basically standardized cross-platform
It makes porting far easier for devs and I don't think divergences shoukd happen unless it's a significant improvement/value add
theyre not that standard though, if valve is putting a d pad on theirs. never seen that on any other. and index is the only one with a track pad and thumbstick with finger tracking and grip force sense...
@@ge2719 Index is pretty old so I'd consider that pre-standardization
And imo, the dpad is a minor enough change to not obstruct devs and players but also add value to the point that this could become the new standard
For now deckard controllers have 4 more buttons and two bumpers above trigger that gives more bindi g option
Yeah, but the BIG downside is that we go back on the advancements we had in VR controllers. Seems like we wont have finger tracking and go back to a grip button.... The Index made every other controller feel outdated, even to this day.
@@xXYannuschXx true. but at the same time, i dont think i've ever used anything that actually made use of the finger tracking beyond what is capable with capacitive touch on the buttons of the controller.
Squeezing cans in half life alyx is pretty much the only use of the grip force sensor and i dont think it really feels all that great since theres no physical feedback to know when you're squeezing things. Which was terrible for half life 2 vr mod as it meant you'd be walking around grabbing things without even realising, or dropping things without realising. with a button you know you're pressing it or not.
similarly with the track pad, i'm a fan of the track pad on the steam controller, but thats useful for aiming in a way that works far better than with a thumbstick on a controller. But in vr you actually aim, so the trackpad becomes another ambiguous input that you can accidentally brush and set of without realising.
it was a good step forward but idk if it really works all that well for vr over having definite buttons.
Valve going back to grip buttons feels just wrong. The Knuckles made every other controller feel outdated, even to this day. I hope that those are just the standard controllers and that you can pick up "pro controllers" that still have finger tracking and grip sensing.
this is the first time a sponsor worked on me, I bought the app and wow that is probably the best money I've spent!
Meta + Windows... isn't this just the desktop app oe remote display app or whatever it's called?
yes but the deal with Microsoft makes the remote display app built into Windows. (not as bloatware but like system files)
Why would I PAY for a Google Earth VR skin 🙄
Ty this was my thoughts lol 😆
What headstrap do you use for your Quest 3?
Is it also avaible for Quest 3s?
0:20
Great vid! About Quest 3 updates, do you now have the new settings update on your Quest, or still pending? Mine's still old settings view, and wondering if it's just unique to my headset.
Im very happy to see AV1 getting latency improvements. Its perfect timing, considering i just bought an RTX 40 series GPU, specifically for the benefits if AV1 this black friday
just got Fly, I was waiting for the street view implementation, Tks for the heads up.
Valve really wants its own Quest 3. Changing the concept for the controllers by following trends.
I wonder if those controllers can be used for the Quest in Virtual Desktop?
the desktop portal is awesome!!!
I hope Deckard will be hybrid so I can continue to use my knuckles with it
Génial le doublement de la vidéo en Français 🎉
From a design standpoint, the deckard controllers are exactly what we need.
Roy very much looks to me like the vive focus controlers just without the rings. What do you think?
Just bought fly ,with discount less than 7 dollars.
Hello Mysticle! My native language is French, so if you want someone for dubbing, I could maybe help you 😉😊...
otherwise, it's a very good video 😊
It would be so cool if the valve deckard controllers work on the quest 3 for steamvr
I had hoped that the new controllers should have a ring, for that is the most logical solution, but maybe not plastic but made out of hard rubber that would not break and also help to protect he hands. For the Quest3 controllers I have id a design flaw, for if you hold them in your hand and turn the hand and then twist your arm like you hold a gun sideways (for the coolness factor) the whole controller and all the trackers are hidden from view, and the smaller number of tracking point is what make a Quest 3 controller much worse then the old controllers, and the new headsets that go down the same rout will get the same trouble. The most annoying thing is that I have 3 lighthouses from Vive, but they are not able to track anything else than the tracking pucks from Vive 😞
Well, I liked this video and the information, but your sound do sound a bit too muffled, a bit like you have too much sound dampening, it still good and clear.
Bought fly. Never heard of it before I think my wife will love it.
Are you in contact with Poland based VR studios? I know that the guys recreating Medieval Dynasty in VR are from Poland, and I think there is more small teams around that I don't remember.
Fly looks kinda fly tbh
For Amazon it was 75$ off the oculus nor a gift card which is still good
Is it available for quest 2?
8:10 finally god damn
I don't see the Sponsor Link in the Description
Please tell me what you’re saying at the start of every video, as well as what it means in English! I am dying to know
Dobry wieczór wszystkich, good evening everyone 😅
Amazon also offers $75 gift card
I already have any keyboard cutouts. got the PTC v72
Używam meta quest 3 do pracy, ale niestety mam maczka. Ciekawe czy ta funkcja łączenia jak dla Windows kiedyś będzie dostępna i dla MacOS 😢
6:30 It's a gift card to the stores not to buy meta games, you get an amazon/target card
what do you say at the opening of your videos?
Dobry wieczór wszystkim (…)
Jaaa jesteś z polski? Ale masz świetny akcent po angielsku naprawdę szacun
Wow, Fly looks *AMAZING!!*
It'd just Google earth VR with a different skin
@fLaMePr0oF Google Earth literally never opened for me on my VR. and I don't why
Well still lack of USB wired mode in VD is a pain in the …. Immersed app did it. Why they can’t do it?
8:53 ofc they don't add quest 2 support
Welcome to how it felt like to be a quest 1 user
The discontinued club
@buildermonkey2229 damn
Its a productivity update.. you literally can't read screens or keyboards with that trash low res b&w passthrough. Quest 2 wasn't going to last forever
@smittyvanjagermanjenson182 fair
My quest 2 has aged fine? (havent used it in weeks-months) tbh im just waiting for the deckard to come out.
The new ryzen APU’s are gonna be really good (4070-ish laptop GPU) so I feel like when they start making the custom deckard chips it will be powerful! (That is if they will be going the custom chips it route, most likely)
They keep removing features and then adding them back. What is this company doing
Thought about getting the 3S, then I realized its screen quality isn't much better then the old Oculus Rift headset. I wouldn't want a new machine with that quality. :(
What? Lmao. The Quest 2 saw a huge quality boost compared to a RiftS, thanks to its higher pixel density. The same displays in the 3S. You're kidding yourself if you think it's anything like the original rift
@@smittyvanjagermanjenson182
I think the previous specs I read showed the wrong resolution for the 3S. Does this resolution look right?
Rift: 1080x1200 per-eye
Quest 3s: 1832x1920 per-eye
Quest 3: 2064x2208 per-eye
The resolution I found before wasn't much better than the Rift specs, which I should have questioned it more.
maybe FLY are sponsoring this video as .... EARTH QUEST ..... might be better ?
.
maybe ?
wish sony would allow 3d blu ray disk playback on ps5
Oh, "cool"! New features. Let's see if I get them before GTA6. I'm FINALLY on v71 but I'm STILL missing features from v69. Meta, don't you know what version numbers are for?
And tracked keyboards? I ordered the Logitech K830. Twice. One of the officially supported keyboards. It's on a list in Quest OS and also on the support website. But neither Logitech nor Meta felt the need to make it clear that Logitech sells two different versions of that keyboard under EXACTLY the same name as K830. Not K830 and K830B, no, both are named K830. And unfortunately, one version doesn't have Bluetooth, so you can't connect it to the Quest. When you connect the USB dongle, you can use it to type, but it's not tracked.
Okay, so I ordered it again, but this time I made sure to order the Bluetooth version. Just to find out that Meta doesn't support any other than the US keyboard layout, wich is a big problem for me as a German QWERTZ user. Now my keyboard is tracked, but the Quest then renders a US keyboard instead of the Germany one I own.
Wanna know what is really making this ridiculously stupid? There are official Meta support pages explaining how to connect your tracked keyboard written IN FUCKING GERMAN? So Meta never felt the need to add the minor side information that that text is very certainly completely irrelevant for most people reading it.
Meta is a donation company at this point😂
Buy me the quest 3. This is an order.
at target it gives you a target giftcard instead
polska jumpscare na 0:00
I don't get the first one. All I see is someone pointing at a chair. Not putting it on anything, and not placing a virtual object on it.
The pointer is now "attached" to the object instead of floating freely as before.
When is quest link getting mixed reality
any mexicans here?
Neh
😂
Ode lay.
bratek wlecial do krakowa 0:23
Dubbed :O I'm Brazilian and I really appreciate your videos being dubbed now
Hi mysticle’s mom
I like the german Translation but... Is there a way to deactivate it? Im confused. I want to hear the original for comparison. XD
Absolutely! It's a new feature RUclips added. You can turn it off under the video settings and language :)
@@TheMysticle I watch RUclips in the browser on my phone because the app doesn't work properly. Unfortunately, the setting isn't there, which is why I couldn't find it. But it works on the PC. Thanks :D
3:46 1024 not 124
Show another way to play pcvr without a pc
What is even the point in Valve making a VR headset if it doesn't have something unique? It's just gonna be like any other boring VR headset without finger tracking
Это че, там ТитVR что ли засветился ?! 11:40
I got my quest 3 for $350
Wystraszyłeś mnie
At the same time I'm Happy that valve controller are basically a xbox controller with 3d space position but at the same time I'm disappointed in vr you are supposed to be a controller and not to have more button inputs
Its not a bad thing for flat gaming. I personally find it annoying having to pair an Xbox controller every time I want to play a traditional title. These Roy controllers are a smart step towards eliminating that friction
Valeu mano vei
Deckard!!!
No
Please disable Google's horrible auto-translate on title and description! It sucks and only is misleading! Thx!
:3
Automatic voice translation is the worst. If I would like to hear that crap I choose other channel. And dont let me put it back in English.
That's actually something RUclips has turned on.
wow, I'm early
Deckard does not exist and never did. Just calm down people.
Cope
@ no u cope!
yes really early
I’m early