The Only Mission of USS Liscome Bay
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- Опубликовано: 3 мар 2024
- On November 23, 1943, after three days of endless fighting, the Allied invasion of the Gilbert Islands, known as Operation Galvanic, was ending.
Strategically positioned in the Central Pacific, over 2,000 miles away from Pearl Harbor, the loss of the Gilberts was not just a territorial retreat but a significant dent in their strategic defense and a blow to their military confidence.
As the Allied forces gained ground, the Japanese command, taken by surprise, scrambled to respond. A desperate Admiral, Mineichi Kogan, issued orders to recall four Japanese submarines southwest of Hawaii and five more near Truk and Rabaul to converge on the Gilberts.
Nine of those Japanese Subs fought against US Forces in the Gilberts, and six were lost.
The Japanese desperately needed a win.
Then, that night, after arriving off Makin, the Japanese submarine I-175, commanded by Lieutenant Commander Sunao Tabata, spotted the perfect target: USS Liscome Bay escort carrier, right in the middle of a protective formation, with a 2 ship-wide gap on her side.
The perfect opportunity for chaos…
I was not aware of this happening, my Uncle Herb Wall (BM-1) was a survivor of the sinking of the USS Bismarch Sea. I served aboard the USS Wiltsie DD-716 in 1975. Brave men all
My Father was one of the survivors of the CVE 56 Liscombe Bay, was a baker on the ship. The Book 23 minutes to eterenity is about the sinking of the Liscombe Bay. I will say that the title of this video does not do justice to the many men that lost their lives that day but thank you for the video.
The escort carriers were designated 'CVE'. Sailors serving on the said it stood for 'Combustible, Vulnerable, Expendable'.
Henry Kaiser adapted the Liberty ship into carriers. They were cranked out and not a lot of attention was paid to crew comfort or armoring the ship.
On October 25, 1944, six escort carriers, three destroyers and three destroy escorts stopped the center force of the imperial Japanese Navy - four battleships, six heavy cruisers, two light cruisers and eleven destroyers....
One of the biggest mismatches in military history and one of the best examples that Americans could show incredible bravery and devotion to duty. The Japanese thought they were up against fleet carriers and cruisers rather than jeep carriers, destroyers and destroyer escorts. Highly recommend the book: Last Stand of the Tin Cans for details of the battle
It should be noted that the Japanese forces withdrew instead of pressing their attack. In essences the Japanese forces stopped themselves although the stout US defense was a factor along with others which influenced the Japanese commander to sail away. If he had continued, it is probable that a great deal of havoc would have been inflicted on the transports in the area.
Remember all the extra U.S. aircraft in the skies that helped that day, leading the Japs to think there was even more forces close by. The U.S. Aircraft crippled some ships too.
My Dad worked at Kaiser in Portland during the war , he used to call these escort carries , baby carries
Thank you sir for this video. Hope our school will use videos like this to teach our children that how freedom is preserved by the sacrifices of our Navy sailors. God forbid, should the rising tension in Taiwan Straight escalate into an invasion war, the Navy may once again be called upon as the first responder.
At the time of the attack, the flotilla was in a turn. It’s unclear whether 175’s target was Mississippi or Liscome Bay. Twenty three minutes is an incredibly short period for any ship within which to sink, let alone a carrier. My father, a 20 mm battery oic, was one of the 291 survivors out of 900. He lost every one of his enlisted, and although he almost never spoke to me of the event, I could tell he carried enormous guilt until the day he died. CVE-56 contributed enormously to the overall cost of Tarawa.
Respect to all sailors. Fair winds and following seas.
Love your posts.
My Grandpa served aboard the Petroff Bay. Jeep Carriers are one way we defeated the Japanese.
A situation I've never heard the details of! Thankyou.
WOW! I experienced a fire on board, USN, all you have to go by is dark smoke and heat by fire it really is kind of scary but you don't think much about it at the time because you are very mission oriented.
I was on the Connie in 1988. We where leaving port when major fuel oil alarm sounded around 1300, After that, it went all downhill. We had five explosions. We fought the fire for 38 hours.
Holy moly, I got out in 87 USS Sacramento. Thanks for your service brother.@@randystewart5386
so what happened to the sub and it's captain?
RIP and fair winds brave lads .
THANK YOU
interesting story but i fail to see the connection to the clickbaity title, possibly you can elaborate?
This channel has been using more and more clickbaity and irelevant titles recently. I am considering blocking it due to this.
@@keithw4920 I think you should. It has started to be silly!!
@@stupitdog9686 The dude is pulling info from Wikipedia. I watched a few of his vids and noticed something familiar with the narration.
My great grandfather’s little brother died on this ship, he was only 17 years old. His name was Ira David Lawrence
All of us veterans thank him for his service to our country.
Is AI going to kill YT? So much artificial stuff in many areas getting posted.
You should do a story about the the destroyer Aylwin and Ensign Stanley B. Caplan.
Hardcore Hit sounds like a rave track from 1992... I was down with that sound back then but fail to see how it relates to 1943, when my father was about 5 years old.
What are you talking about? Just curious. I feel like we just watched 2 completely different videos...
Is war drama channel!
It's war drama channel!
@@SuperVt100ya drama channel
He was actually going to use the Andrew's Sisters but the beats were a bit too happy. 😮
Ah. That's how petty officer Doris Miller. Died. I've been trying to find out. I'm also from Alaska. Anchors Away shipmate
В России, - откуда я и смотрю это видео, - всё описанное в этом видео - это практически Неизвестная Страница Истории.
Thanks for watching!
While the Soviets crushed and crippled the Wehrmacht, the same was happening to the Japanese Naval Forces in the Pacific by America and her allies
@@greenkoopa That's right, but it's a very different things: that's the reason that this Page of History of the Pacific (and of the United States) are practically unknown in Russia.
Geographical and Cultural differences are main reasons to it.
@@mihalich7740 we have easy access to information here in America
Many are new to us in the U.S. also.
Click bait, false title.
You are in danger of losing subs if you continue with these false titles.
You would think that section of the boat would be reinforced a little bit more I'm curious to know what the thickness of the hull was in that spot? If it wasn't at least 10 in of good armor,, then the Navy effed up!😮😢
Jeep carriers were based on a merchant ship hull and so they had very little in the way of armor, that is how they could build them so quickly.
@@leemorrison7240 . Probably so! But adding a slab of Steel along the outside of the boat is probably the easiest and quickest thing to do when it comes to making an aircraft carrier?
@@DavidJones-me7yr You aren't getting it, they were merchant ship hulls converted with a flat deck, not a fleet carrier, many of the earlier ones of which were based on battlecruiser hulls, with the later ones specifically designed as carriers, adding sufficient armour to stop a torpedo isn't possible. Even the fleet carriers were vulnerable to the Japanese "Long Lance" torpedo which is recognised as one of the most effective torpedoes of the war with longer range, bigger warhead, and more reliable than American torpedoes of the time, many of which failed to explode, or hit the target for a variety of reasons.
@@davedixon2068 I am getting what you saying and I know all the details that you just wrote, but when the ship is in a shipyard being refitted, it would not be that hard to add steel to the outside and they could also put a second layer on the inside where all the explosives are!? they were just too rushed to do it.. one torpedo took out an aircraft carrier,, that sounds wrong to me!
@@DavidJones-me7yr The amount of steel required would have reduced the speed of the ship so much they wouldn't have been able to fly off aircraft, jeep carriers were often single engined, occasionally twin engined, and slooow and there were a high number of take off/landing accidents as it was. They were originally to be used to take extra aircraft with the fleet to resupply the fleet carriers losses.
A torpedo hit was likely to take out anything smaller than a battleship, the General Belgrano an ex American WW2 cruiser was sunk by one MK8 (WW2era) torpedo fired by HMS Conqueror during the Falklands War. A jeep carrier was meant to be cheap and quick to build and relatively expendable. Because of a shortage of fleet carriers they were often pressed into service supporting fleet actions and escorting convoys, the British in particular used them in this role using Fairy Swordfish aircraft to hunt submarines.
You might like to google HMS Nelson torpedo protection it might open your eyes a bit.
It was America's fault because they did not protect that flat top in the turn. I don't know if it was the captain of the flat top. Or the captains of the Destroyers didn't like their turn.
The admiralty thought the chances of a sub attack were less than a possible collision between the three leading escort carriers of the group so, they were NOT zig-zagging. if they were, it might have very well prevented the Sub from hitting anything.
The entire Japanese war effort was just one big warcrime made up of endless smaller warcrimes. Smh.
Talks about TBM Avengers, shows pics of P-47's on a carrier deck. Lazy.
I'm starting to think that the channel is being run by an AI.
Most of the video of a damaged carrier is of an Essex class fleet carrier not a jeep carrier so the types of aircraft are irrelevant
Let us know when you post your video on such an involved subject.
"war, what is it good for" 😢
Survival? 🙄
Preventing evil despots from ruling the world. Standing up for right is one of the key things that separates us from the regular Europeans with pacifist mindsets, that always end up being invaded, the only thing that saved Switzerland from invasion was her massive banking system that Germany had plenty of money sunk into it. Switzerland likely agreed to look after the Third Reich's gold and money matters in place of being invaded, we know that the Swiss become a massive banking nation BECAUSE Germany deposited all of their Gold into Swiss Bank Accounts So the Swiss avoided being invaded, but they did buy a lot of German war equipment for their own defense force, this too was likely part of the deal that Germany made with them. Either way, people like Putin, Stalin, Hitler and the like understand only one kind of language, and that is violence, and Japan was the worst, most war-like people on the planet, akin to the Romulans crossed with the Klingons in Star Trek. So Japan would never listen to diplomatic talks to limit their expansionism. Because the US had tried to use Diplomatic means and even went as far as using sanctions to stop American exports of oil and steel to Japan, and the result was a sneak attack on Pearl Harbor. Yes war is horrible and terrible and every other negative moniker we can think of but ultimately the last resort to stop evil men and women from victimizing entire nations, like in the past when despots ruled and invaded virtually unstopped unless you had a giant Army ready to mow them down if they decided to invade, like the Muslims did and then forcibly converted entire nations to their evil religion. So yeah it sucks, but humanity is inherently evil, especially if left to do as it pleases without consequence, like we see in todays youth.
Typical of this channel some good stuff but not much about the title vessel.
"...after three days of endless fighting..." LOL. Whut?
Molyneux or Molyneaux is pronounced ( Moly No ). It's french...
IKR, French are known to be stupid, putting unnecessary letters that will not even be pronounced. 😂
Thank you! That drove me mad. The name is of French origin but I bet he's of Irish descent, its a very common name here
Go Navy 🇺🇲. USN 👍
Big bog boat boi
🐢🐢🐢🐢🐢
I’m not well educated about the Pacific theater. Is there a consensus about whether the island hoping approach was the correct approach, or is it seen as a vanity project for McCarther’s ego? I have no opinion. But McCarther seems to have been a bit of a glory hound. Someone, please straighten me out. Thanks.
MacArthur’s Tactics were in SW pacific,where they saved thousands of life’s,He had nothing to do with the central pacific! DO YOUR RESEARCH!
Sea Exterminator that Devastated America's Survivor Fleet? Really? Maybe the same AI that narrates writes titles? You can do better, the subject material deserves and demands better. The fact that Doris Miller, who the 4th Ford Class (CVN-81) is named for, lost his life here deserves better than clickbait crap.
He often gets things wrong but the info is good
Why do they use these idiotic click bait titles?
RUclips algorithm often forces people to use clickbate titles and cover images or they get penalized with substantially less viewership visibility. It's something many channels have spoken out against but have to follow or they lose views.
@@intashu9756
Nonsense.
How many viewers do these posters lose because people write them off as clickbait and avoid them?
Wow, I guess I missed it....because the title seems to have been changed now, in the last 5 days.
Overall, I do enjoy the videos this channel puts out, though I do take the info with a grain of salt. For example, I was watching a different video from this channel yesterday that placed the USS Lexington (sunk during the battle of The Coral Sea), at The Battle of Midway....🥴😂
you set them in a trap because you would end all this two years from then
What is with the horrible Title man? This horrible loss of life needs to be better respected in your titles. It certainly didn't devastate the Survivor fleet, it was the loss of an Escort Carrier, not the entire fleet! What is with the cheesy clickbait Titles of late? If you're seeing a drop in viewership, it's not us, it's RUclips screwing around again, as always. the sooner a new platform take over the market the better, since Google is one of the wokest crap companies ever to defile the internet! but don't insult your viewership with bad titles like this, it's a very easy way to lose viewers like me, who are already devoted to your channels. Just make your titles state the truth, like "Horrible loss of life with the sinking of USS Liscome Bay!" or something along those lines, but the sinking of an Escort Carrier was far from devastating the fleet, but it was a devastating attack on the ship itself. The entire aft of the ship rearward of the forward bulkhead in the engine room was severed from the ship. it doesn't take a genius to understand that such an explosion would need to be nothing less that catastrophic and massive. the aft magazine was fully loaded, this was the first and only mission the Liscome Bay had taken part in since her launch, which was only months before she went to take part in Operation Galvanic. Many of the crew were rookies no doubt, their first time at sea and were lost in a war which was already becoming very one-sided in Favor of the US forces. No doubt this loss and many others before the end of the war in the Pacific galvanized and filled US, Naval forces to be cold blooded and brutal with the Japanese and root them out of every nook, cranny, and rat hole they were found in. It is good to note, that of the Nine Submarines recalled to the Gilbert Islands 6 were lost to American vessels before one of the Survivors hit and sunk the Liscome Bay. And the I-175 did NOT survive the war. Three months later Late in the evening Feb. 3, 1944, the USS New Jersey Detected the I-175 on radar and sent the USS Charrette (DD-581) to investigate and attack and joined by USS Fair (DE-35) the two destroyers engaged and fired Salvos of Hedgehogs at the diving Japanese Sub, and at 00:50 Feb 4, 1944, the crews of both US vessels heard and felt two large explosions that destroyed and sun the Sub, which is likely the I-175 according to Japanese historical documents and places of assigned war patrols. So not a short time later the I-175 paid for her attack on the Liscome Bay and was lost with all hands 100 nautical miles Northwest of Jaluit Atoll.