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The day Louise ended her gymnastics career, was a huge loss for gymnastics. This girl was such a talented gymnast. The absolute witch hunt on her is disgusting. I salute her for her bravery. I thank Carte Blanche for finally exposing Derek for what he truly was. We trusted him with our children. We were all fooled. Constantly seeing the comments of "Where were the parents?" disgusts me, because I was at every practice, and never did I see him being inappropriate with any female gymnast, just very abusive & aggressive towards the male gymnasts. He was as cunning as a fox. Very charming & likable. WE ALL LOVED HIM. WE TRUSTED HIM! He fooled us all. :( Just a correction on the timeline @carteblance, this has been going on since 2008!!
You say you salute Louise, and I in turn, salute you. Can't even imagine what it must be like for a parent and how you must feel, despite people like that being so incredibly cunning, as you say, very charming & likable. Your comment was really touching and shows how complicated it all is. No doubt, something like that must leave a path of destruction that is so far reaching, and Carte Blanche and you give us a glimpse of it...
I danced, my mum was at EVERY PRACTICE, needless to say these things can happen with a parent in the room. It can be put on parents only when the child comes forth - whatever the parents do from here, they could be held liable.
For everyone reading.. you must learn skills to see through peoples fakeness. Will help you and everyone in your life with this. Nobody will be able to pull a fast one or fool you
This story just made me cry. Such abuse happened or happens in some families with a mother present at home 24/7. People who are trusted are mostly the most cunning and dangerous. I am so overprotective with my kids because of such. The only time and place I don’t see them is when they are at school and I pray for their protection. Since this is close to you, I pray that you heal from whichever way it affected you and everyone else.
These lovely ladies are so courageous to share their stories. You’re giving hope to many victims. You’re still beautiful and you still deserve a happy and wonderful life. ♥️♥️♥️
Worst apology letter ever.... allegation of a smear campaign, zero empathy for the victims and still SA gymnastics trust the same people with their gymnasts.
@@Mo-yd8xc yes it does happen sadly but it should be investigated, if you think 13/14 year olds won't about something like this you have 0 life experience and live in a bubble
I get beyond enraged when these socalled people in authority say they never knew, even when there were children who complained, they were never believed. Also the owner that said "if they would have done something wrong". They DID something wrong!!! He also said Derick took his own life to protect his family from the attack on the club by certain parties. What about the attack, over years and years on defenseless girls. Let me tell all who do not know, this scars you for life. You NEVER really get over it. They all talk about the person who took his life, what about the dozens of girls who will never HAVE a life because of his actions.
Wow, this is terrible. And Kenne Gous sits with a smirk on his face, trying to downplay instead of just saying sorry, but either way, this club in my view may just as well close. How may you say the club was a victim!? whist not even assisting the real victims? Well done Carte Blanche
Well done Glen! You were my favourite coach when I was young… thank you that you are still doing your part in making a difference for gymnasts in South Africa!
Where there is smoke, there is fire. Those who were informed and failed to investigate should be held liable for paying the victims for physiological damages. An amount should be determined by a court of law. GBV deserves decisive action, not delayed, to prove to the woman at large out there that justice takes place.
What does he say at the end he was the best coach like it was a loss !! This is so weird that this stuff is dealt with like this , as if those people were in on it ??
Yes, these children were failed for a very long time. Has a man hurt you so you generalize? It is not just men who perpetrate these vile acts and not all go unpunished. Even in this case, the ending of a life means the discontinuation of its prospects, thus a sort of punishment?
@@steven320 Me thinks the "gentleman" doth protesteth too much.🤔🤔 In my dialogue with other men, they refuse to engage with any GBV narrative. Why?? These things are done in your name.
@DumaM-ir7rk We men did it? Speak for yourself if you have urges! You don't know me nor my gender yet you make your statements? Fact: she is generalizing and that is the same when people say "oh' all people of a certain color are the same" . Its called generalizing!
The filth! How evil😖 they were not even remorseful they just wanted to go back to business as always when children have been violated! And for what? So their club can keep winning, they literally dismissed the victims just so they could keep that filth of a man as coach. I pity their children for having such filthy fathers who only care about money and not the kids of other parents under their care. I pray they never ever get to coach another child. They are not worthy of such an honour.
And still that club and coaches are going on. coaching and having competitions. Nothing has been done yet about this situation in one week. No action has been taken against this club or Free State Committee. Why have the authorities not taken action yet, against these predators that has protected Derek for more than 16 years!! Why, why, why????
I don’t know if you guys know Larry Nassar that did this to the young kids in US with doing this nasty stuff to this young kids , it is disgusting man , it seems like a “ all over the world “ thing involving young female gymnasts!.
This is so very common. All men should be dismissed in management. There's a club near where I live and it's run by women. All male coaches must be checked thoroughly and if coaching girls a lady must be watching. Cameras everywhere.😢😢😢
In these days, parents are to blame because it's not just a sport for their children to enjoy, but a competition amongst their piers. At the tender age, you can immediately pick up something wrong with your child. My heart goes out to the lady that came forward with her traumatic events because now she will have to relive it and build herself up all over again. Any sporting federation needs to be monitored alot closer and our children should not be abused like this. Taking his own life was an easy way out. A letter of apology does not cut it. Why are parents still supporting this club? Can they not see the emotional trauma in the beautiful soul that came forward. For the club, it's just business. Sad, sad ,sad. 😢😢😢
Don't know about you but I have the sudden urge to get in my car and drive to the Free State and have a chat with these ooms. There's something very wrong going on here.
All the men that are apart of the gymnastics committee in this episode all look guilty like they have also been involved in all of this one way or another
These predators far too often choose areas to operate in where they have the opportunity to be 1) in an authoritarian position and therefore disguised behaviour of 2) grooming these vulnerable children to be groomed. They DEPEND on the fact that i) these young people will not be believed and ii) their narcissistic cover of charm to the outside world. It’s extremely disappointing that the adults in control and at the top are so adamant about their denial. It’s disgusting that the prowess of the sport /club and related egos come before the wellbeing of their key treasures ~ the young champions. Thank you Carte Blanche
Unacceptable that the men in charge keep making excuses and say it’s impossible to make changes to protect these children. They should all be fired and replaced with people who care about making sure it doesn’t happen again instead of making excuses for their ineptitude.
This is far to common in the sports world, it's sad and disheartening. There are some sick people in this world, and sadly, there is no cure for paedophilia 😢
These two men really feel nothing for the children. They knew but it did not suit them to know. They did not want to fire a prestigious coach. Children do not stand a chance
The old boys clubs are still alive and well in South Africa. These people do will continue to do whatever they please with impunity. I pray our new Sport minister starts doing some housecleaning here as well......
Patriarchal society is failing our young people! Please tell Me if a woman was head of SAGF or etc would this things be allowed to fester for so , so long🤬! It’s back to business as usual 😢
Where were the girl's parents in all of this... If it happened to my daughter I would not need the head of the institution to get things done to protect her. I would rally up the parents and confront the coach myself!
Thank you for once again exposing the monsters in our midst. However I would have preferred if you had focussed less on girls "from the waist down" as it panders to the same monsters watching at home.
There are way more than 6. It was 7 before he committed suicide. Now there are more. Siek varke, almal van hulle. Derek, sy vrou, Kenne en sy vrou. Hulle almal het geweet al vir jare lank en ander pad gekyk. Hulle gaan nog eendag saam met hom in die hel brand.
I don’t like how this journalist spoke so calmly & politely to the white men but spoke so rudely & aggressively to the old coloured man who in all honesty was so far in distance from this horrific crime compared to the 2 white men who basically you can tell helped cover this up. It stinks of racist tones.
@@just-nadia-and-keysthose men literally had first hand knowledge presented to them of this predator & she was calm with them yet the coloured president who manages hundreds of gymnasiums had no knowledge (because of those hiding the truth) she attacks? It’s clearly obvious…
@@matt27taylor Thank you for saying this, it troubled me too. I know Donny well he is an honourable man who has always stood for justice. The actual culprits she treated with kid gloves and attacked the wrong person. And Donny was the one that held them all accountable in this.
@@ricardopersens1817 It’s not only terrible journalism firstly but it’s clear she herself has a racist agenda. She should not be on such a coveted platform.
I didnt even realise he is not white ...I like the fact that she was able to remain calm with those who know the inside info, bet they regret a few comments. He's president and still allowing this. Tactic was 100%
Well my child will not be doing gymnastics in RSA at all, and I'm going to run criminal checks and investigations regarding anyone involved in any extracurricular activity, if that was my daughter Derek would have never gotten the chance to off himself. And Jannie should be ashamed, he traded the well being of athletes for money and competitive advantage, sick, absolutely sick. In a few years we will hear about what Jannie did....if you get my drift
Corruption is truely a societal issue. Its not race based. I woulder what it would take to truely root out Corruption which keeps taking away our freedom as a nation😢
Helena Botha & the free state gymnastics organisation failed to protect these children 🥺 i cannot believe so many people didn’t listen to the victims💔 super proud of the victims for speaking up ❤️🩹
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In my view, protecting a predator makes you one too
Absolutely agree with you
Sad that they still don't seem to care
The day Louise ended her gymnastics career, was a huge loss for gymnastics. This girl was such a talented gymnast. The absolute witch hunt on her is disgusting. I salute her for her bravery. I thank Carte Blanche for finally exposing Derek for what he truly was. We trusted him with our children. We were all fooled. Constantly seeing the comments of "Where were the parents?" disgusts me, because I was at every practice, and never did I see him being inappropriate with any female gymnast, just very abusive & aggressive towards the male gymnasts. He was as cunning as a fox. Very charming & likable. WE ALL LOVED HIM. WE TRUSTED HIM! He fooled us all. :( Just a correction on the timeline @carteblance, this has been going on since 2008!!
What's your email address?
You say you salute Louise, and I in turn, salute you. Can't even imagine what it must be like for a parent and how you must feel, despite people like that being so incredibly cunning, as you say, very charming & likable. Your comment was really touching and shows how complicated it all is. No doubt, something like that must leave a path of destruction that is so far reaching, and Carte Blanche and you give us a glimpse of it...
I danced, my mum was at EVERY PRACTICE, needless to say these things can happen with a parent in the room. It can be put on parents only when the child comes forth - whatever the parents do from here, they could be held liable.
For everyone reading.. you must learn skills to see through peoples fakeness. Will help you and everyone in your life with this. Nobody will be able to pull a fast one or fool you
This story just made me cry. Such abuse happened or happens in some families with a mother present at home 24/7. People who are trusted are mostly the most cunning and dangerous. I am so overprotective with my kids because of such. The only time and place I don’t see them is when they are at school and I pray for their protection.
Since this is close to you, I pray that you heal from whichever way it affected you and everyone else.
These lovely ladies are so courageous to share their stories. You’re giving hope to many victims. You’re still beautiful and you still deserve a happy and wonderful life. ♥️♥️♥️
What does he mean when he say " the attack on the club by certain individuals" Disgusting man, they failed These athletes😢
Worst apology letter ever.... allegation of a smear campaign, zero empathy for the victims and still SA gymnastics trust the same people with their gymnasts.
How can you NOT believe children???
Parents why don't you prepare your kids against abuse???
Are you blaming the parents too?
Just abou to say....victim blaming does NOT help
Agree but children do lie aswel but YES IT SHOULD GARNER AN INVESTIGATION
@@EgorZA82 lie about stuff like that?
@@Mo-yd8xc yes it does happen sadly but it should be investigated, if you think 13/14 year olds won't about something like this you have 0 life experience and live in a bubble
Just shocking behaviour, they don't care and it screams through their demeanor, their explanations are totally lacking. Shame on these men.
I get beyond enraged when these socalled people in authority say they never knew, even when there were children who complained, they were never believed. Also the owner that said "if they would have done something wrong". They DID something wrong!!! He also said Derick took his own life to protect his family from the attack on the club by certain parties. What about the attack, over years and years on defenseless girls. Let me tell all who do not know, this scars you for life. You NEVER really get over it. They all talk about the person who took his life, what about the dozens of girls who will never HAVE a life because of his actions.
@@marieslabbert6009 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
Wow, this is terrible. And Kenne Gous sits with a smirk on his face, trying to downplay instead of just saying sorry, but either way, this club in my view may just as well close. How may you say the club was a victim!? whist not even assisting the real victims? Well done Carte Blanche
The bad guy did him a massive favour by doing himself in.
1 page apology.
2 lines of sorry, not sorry
My heart goes out to the victims. So strong wow, well done on telling your story very very brave! ❤ I wish you peace and healing ❤ you are worth it
I've watched many Carte Blanche RUclips vidoes. This is easily the most shocking. With each minute, it gets worse.
How do these men sleep well at night ..all about Province, gymnastic federation, not about the victims. Shameful
Seems like these men are just protecting this predator. Sickening.
I watched the Netflix documentary of a similar thing happening in the US... now I wonder, is gymnastics a breading ground for peados 😪
About that Doctor 😢. And she did it for years
Nadia Komenatchi from Russia was also a victim....
Was about to say. It seems like tis is very common in gymnastics
Yes nassar from the US it seems like a norm to do this things joh 😢
@@truth-Hurts375Nadia Comaneschi, perfect 10 (1976),is from Romania👌
Well done Glen!
You were my favourite coach when I was young… thank you that you are still doing your part in making a difference for gymnasts in South Africa!
Why ooh WHY has this not been investigated in full and every one been exposed??
such a heartbreaking story.
Would not be surprised if some of these men who did nothing were predators themselves.
They failed these children.....punt kla
Where there is smoke, there is fire. Those who were informed and failed to investigate should be held liable for paying the victims for physiological damages. An amount should be determined by a court of law. GBV deserves decisive action, not delayed, to prove to the woman at large out there that justice takes place.
The South African judicial system is guilty of malpractice aswell as the President of the Country
"it wasnt a raised concern it was just mentioned in conversation" you're talking to another predator that just haven't been caught yet.
I so agree.
Those in authority never do anything
What does he say at the end he was the best coach like it was a loss !! This is so weird that this stuff is dealt with like this , as if those people were in on it ??
@@AndreCillie my mouth just dropped open when he said that and I thought, Can you not hear yourself?
My daughter does Gymnastics and this is really scary, I'm so glad her trainer is a women. But this makes me loose trust in humanity.
Sick...he needs to be thrown in jail..
They failed these children. Men just behave with impunity. Maybe these men also have victims. Sad very sad.
Don't just say men. Don't generalise.
Yes, these children were failed for a very long time.
Has a man hurt you so you generalize? It is not just men who perpetrate these vile acts and not all go unpunished.
Even in this case, the ending of a life means the discontinuation of its prospects, thus a sort of punishment?
@DumaM-ir7rk you have zero logic. I cannot debate you.
@@steven320 Me thinks the "gentleman" doth protesteth too much.🤔🤔 In my dialogue with other men, they refuse to engage with any GBV narrative. Why?? These things are done in your name.
@DumaM-ir7rk We men did it? Speak for yourself if you have urges! You don't know me nor my gender yet you make your statements? Fact: she is generalizing and that is the same when people say "oh' all people of a certain color are the same" . Its called generalizing!
The filth! How evil😖 they were not even remorseful they just wanted to go back to business as always when children have been violated! And for what? So their club can keep winning, they literally dismissed the victims just so they could keep that filth of a man as coach. I pity their children for having such filthy fathers who only care about money and not the kids of other parents under their care. I pray they never ever get to coach another child. They are not worthy of such an honour.
What a terrible failure of child protection. The head of southern free state …. Looks like…… I think everyone can see it.
And still that club and coaches are going on. coaching and having competitions. Nothing has been done yet about this situation in one week. No action has been taken against this club or Free State Committee. Why have the authorities not taken action yet, against these predators that has protected Derek for more than 16 years!! Why, why, why????
I don’t know if you guys know Larry Nassar that did this to the young kids in US with doing this nasty stuff to this young kids , it is disgusting man , it seems like a “ all over the world “ thing involving young female gymnasts!.
love that fact the reporter called out the president straight in face.
So sorry!
Sad and sick
This is so very common. All men should be dismissed in management. There's a club near where I live and it's run by women. All male coaches must be checked thoroughly and if coaching girls a lady must be watching. Cameras everywhere.😢😢😢
These days kids would install a hidden camera to back up their accusations.
Unbelievable that responsibility wasn't accepted by all the parties!!
In these days, parents are to blame because it's not just a sport for their children to enjoy, but a competition amongst their piers.
At the tender age, you can immediately pick up something wrong with your child.
My heart goes out to the lady that came forward with her traumatic events because now she will have to relive it and build herself up all over again.
Any sporting federation needs to be monitored alot closer and our children should not be abused like this.
Taking his own life was an easy way out. A letter of apology does not cut it.
Why are parents still supporting this club? Can they not see the emotional trauma in the beautiful soul that came forward.
For the club, it's just business.
Sad, sad ,sad. 😢😢😢
Whoa, 😳, this is the first time I heard of South African gymnasts. Interesting and sad at the same time.😢
Don't know about you but I have the sudden urge to get in my car and drive to the Free State and have a chat with these ooms. There's something very wrong going on here.
I hope Gayton puts them all in jail!!!!
In his old cell?😆
@@CMD4WPlol😅
Jannie also looks like a suspect...
Ja Jannie lyk funny
Very
There must be more here than what we are getting
CRIME KNOWS NO RACE IN SOUTH AFRICA 🤮🤮🤮
This is like the incident in US gymnastics a couple of years ago, Larry Nassar was also abusing his athletes for decades and got life sentence for it.
We didn’t protect the gymnasts because he was such a great coach. Please. Pathetic!
Men teaching where physical contact is necessary, is looking for trouble..
Jannie lyk bietjie suspect
All the men that are apart of the gymnastics committee in this episode all look guilty like they have also been involved in all of this one way or another
They were involved! They knew about everything and decided to ignore it and look the other way. They are just as guilty.
Hold everyone accountable. They all knew and kept it quiet. Jail time for all
These predators far too often choose areas to operate in where they have the opportunity to be
1) in an authoritarian position and therefore disguised behaviour of 2) grooming these vulnerable children to be groomed.
They DEPEND on the fact that i) these young people will not be believed and ii) their narcissistic cover of charm to the outside world.
It’s extremely disappointing that the adults in control and at the top are so adamant about their denial. It’s disgusting that the prowess of the sport /club and related egos come before the wellbeing of their key treasures ~ the young champions.
Thank you Carte Blanche
Unacceptable that the men in charge keep making excuses and say it’s impossible to make changes to protect these children. They should all be fired and replaced with people who care about making sure it doesn’t happen again instead of making excuses for their ineptitude.
This is far to common in the sports world, it's sad and disheartening. There are some sick people in this world, and sadly, there is no cure for paedophilia 😢
Sick😢
These two men really feel nothing for the children. They knew but it did not suit them to know. They did not want to fire a prestigious coach. Children do not stand a chance
Put women in charge!! Then you'd see action.....
How are the parents still sending kids to train with these people. Is there no internet in the Freestate?
That letter is a solid slap in the face. Jislikit I am sommer demoerin.
Jannie should go to jail!!!!!!
How could a parent not be aware of what was happening to their children. I even knew when my daughter had a disagreement with a friend at school.
The old boys clubs are still alive and well in South Africa. These people do will continue to do whatever they please with impunity. I pray our new Sport minister starts doing some housecleaning here as well......
Patriarchal society is failing our young people! Please tell
Me if a woman was head of SAGF or etc would this things be allowed to fester for so , so long🤬! It’s back to business as usual 😢
I have always wondered why these Girls didn't tell their parents or Friends or Teachers 💔💔
Looks like men closing ranks 😢
all the men who defended derek are just as much of a predator as he was.
Not me screaming foul words 😡😡😡
Waar is die wetter nou? Tyd hy vrek.
Where were the girl's parents in all of this... If it happened to my daughter I would not need the head of the institution to get things done to protect her. I would rally up the parents and confront the coach myself!
Thank you for once again exposing the monsters in our midst. However I would have preferred if you had focussed less on girls "from the waist down" as it panders to the same monsters watching at home.
Disgusting
Why is this the same story of the SA Hockey coach, young girls, and then suicide. Cowards.
The weirdest part? In our lives we pass these types daily. Some seen as "doyens" of society. Yet we suspect nothing.
Thats two victims to many Jannie
Jannie is more concerned about FS than innocent children....
There were 6 reports. And those are only the victims that WE KNOW OF.
There are way more than 6. It was 7 before he committed suicide. Now there are more. Siek varke, almal van hulle. Derek, sy vrou, Kenne en sy vrou. Hulle almal het geweet al vir jare lank en ander pad gekyk. Hulle gaan nog eendag saam met hom in die hel brand.
It’s not the first time.. there is a documentary talking about a coach abusing kids in Europe
Sies!
Parents don't care about us children when we speak about our problems😢😢they just think that we are crazy children
I don’t like how this journalist spoke so calmly & politely to the white men but spoke so rudely & aggressively to the old coloured man who in all honesty was so far in distance from this horrific crime compared to the 2 white men who basically you can tell helped cover this up. It stinks of racist tones.
I also thought so.
@@just-nadia-and-keysthose men literally had first hand knowledge presented to them of this predator & she was calm with them yet the coloured president who manages hundreds of gymnasiums had no knowledge (because of those hiding the truth) she attacks? It’s clearly obvious…
@@matt27taylor Thank you for saying this, it troubled me too. I know Donny well he is an honourable man who has always stood for justice. The actual culprits she treated with kid gloves and attacked the wrong person. And Donny was the one that held them all accountable in this.
@@ricardopersens1817 It’s not only terrible journalism firstly but it’s clear she herself has a racist agenda. She should not be on such a coveted platform.
I didnt even realise he is not white ...I like the fact that she was able to remain calm with those who know the inside info, bet they regret a few comments. He's president and still allowing this. Tactic was 100%
Well my child will not be doing gymnastics in RSA at all, and I'm going to run criminal checks and investigations regarding anyone involved in any extracurricular activity, if that was my daughter Derek would have never gotten the chance to off himself. And Jannie should be ashamed, he traded the well being of athletes for money and competitive advantage, sick, absolutely sick. In a few years we will hear about what Jannie did....if you get my drift
Similar to “Athlete A” on Netflix
13:48 dont think the governing body can be held accountable for the deeds
Despicable!
Who is the reporter involved?
Corruption is truely a societal issue. Its not race based. I woulder what it would take to truely root out Corruption which keeps taking away our freedom as a nation😢
Low sound🔊?
Post more stories please
💔🤬
Lorenza, die reaksie van sommige mans was om van naar te word. Dit is amper ongelooflik dat jy een of twee van hulle nie aangerand het nie.
Larry Nassar in SA!!!
May Allah protect those Victims,May he be punished for his sins
Any cameras
Men protecting men. Euw man why are they coaching girls?
Hoekom lag jy terwyl jy praat ou oompie?
Hi
Did Carte Blanche air all sides of this investigation ??
What exactly are you implying?
The bad mouthing of the victims - everyone heard that part, no need to repeat
Helena Botha & the free state gymnastics organisation failed to protect these children 🥺 i cannot believe so many people didn’t listen to the victims💔 super proud of the victims for speaking up ❤️🩹