2-Element Inverted Gradient Stack at Minneapolis Jazz Fest

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  • Опубликовано: 29 авг 2024
  • Why did I decide to use a 2-element inverted gradient stack at the recent Minneapolis Jazz Fest and how did I prepare for the crossover alignment?
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Комментарии • 22

  • @MichaelCurtisAudio
    @MichaelCurtisAudio 2 года назад +1

    Great job, man! Love it.

    • @nathanlively
      @nathanlively  2 года назад

      Hey you inspired me with your last video!

  • @sal9211
    @sal9211 2 года назад

    As always, you are versatile, Nathan! Appreciate.

  • @DamnHeadHumpers
    @DamnHeadHumpers 2 года назад +1

    fantastic video!

  • @jdhatten1337
    @jdhatten1337 2 года назад +2

    Great Stuff!!! I suspect some of the concepts I struggled to understand are in future modules of the training but I think I caught most of the thought process behind what you were doing. Is there a way of importing performance data for the EV subs into Mapp 3D or did you just use an equivalent MeyerSound sub?

    • @nathanlively
      @nathanlively  2 года назад

      Hi JD! Have you made it to the end of Module 2, yet? Gradient subs are covered there.
      > Is there a way of importing performance data for the EV subs into Mapp 3D
      No, I just picked something that was about the right size box.

  • @CarlsOpinion
    @CarlsOpinion 2 года назад +2

    What I don't understand, is why they wouldn't let YOU bring in some hardware to plug into their system. Like an additional speaker management system, to give you that additional processing channel to put a delay on the end subs, and to be able to high pass the speakers. Damn, if you showed up at my event, it would be, "Hey, what do you need?". Seriously. Have a good one. Carl

    • @harryps3
      @harryps3 2 года назад +1

      Yea totally. What I also don’t understand. Whose spec’ing these miss-matched systems on gigs and not have this ready for the engineer when they arrive?

    • @nathanlively
      @nathanlively  2 года назад

      Oh, I'm sure they would have. I was just trying to keep it as simple as possible. Also, I like a bit of a challenge. :)

    • @nathanlively
      @nathanlively  2 года назад +2

      @@harryps3 Hey Harry, yeah, it's always interesting how that works out. In this case it's everything that owner of the system had. They bought the subs especially because they are very low and fit underneath some stage that he owns. Everyone has their reasons. Our job is just to make it work. :)

    • @harryps3
      @harryps3 2 года назад

      @@nathanlively Absolutely and you do a bloody good job at it Nathan

    • @daneprostamo-brown6552
      @daneprostamo-brown6552 2 года назад

      More gear and more setup also equals more cost

  • @cedricfischer4405
    @cedricfischer4405 2 года назад +1

    Nice vidéo, great tips there. Can you explain why you reversed the top sub and not the other way round?

    • @nathanlively
      @nathanlively  2 года назад

      Hi Cedric! If you try both ways in your modeling software, you'll see the result pretty quickly. If you draw a line interesting both drivers, that's where the null will end up. Check out Mauricio's presentation at Live Sound Summit for more on this: livesoundsummit2020.sounddesignlive.com/talks/modern-variable-directivity-techniques-in-subwoofer-arrays/

  • @manuotero6462
    @manuotero6462 Год назад +1

    You`ll get better results with the in line setup than the front- back setup?

    • @nathanlively
      @nathanlively  Год назад

      Hey Manu, in terms of total rejection? I think so, yes. The in-line version allows you to manipulate the spacing and tune the effective bandwidth to best match the speaker's operating range.

  • @roshanmalim2387
    @roshanmalim2387 Год назад +1

    what is the distance between each stack of the subs

    • @nathanlively
      @nathanlively  Год назад

      Hey Roshan, it's been a bit since I worked on that design. Looks like about 6 inches?

  • @19deadmeat87
    @19deadmeat87 2 года назад +1

    If the low frequency cancelation in VIP area was the most important, I would rather setup supercardioid pattern, but than you get little more noise on the stage. Those T4's has small woofer. Just 8" and needs to be highpassed at about 100Hz. Unfortunately there is no highpass setup on those speakers, and no RD net control that is possible in newer models. what was processing added for rear facing subs? for this type of configuration, there needs to be delay, phase reverse, gain reduction and limiters threshold reduction. Will you share your values?

    • @nathanlively
      @nathanlively  2 года назад

      Hey Palo, great tip! A supercardioid pattern would have been even better for the VIP area.
      > needs to be highpassed at about 100Hz
      How did you decide on that value?
      > Will you share your values?
      Shoot, I don't think I have them. But, I do have the MAPP3D file if you'd like to look at that.
      sendanywhe.re/86P5A9QM

    • @19deadmeat87
      @19deadmeat87 2 года назад

      @@nathanlively we did used T8's and I spoke about the crossover point with distributor and service techniker about recommended crossover for tham, and we booth agreed on 100Hz, once, I forgot to apply crossover, and one bass speaker has broken. Other benefit is you get much greater headroom for lower mids.