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No thanks on either track saw... i'll stick to my 35$ 4 foot level, 2 5$ clamps and 80$ Metabo HPT circular saw.... lower cost, less foot print and it does not have a battery that will eventually need to be replaced.... and will not die, or wont be charged when you need it most.
As someone who does not have a track saw AND already on the m18 platform…I would reluctantly take the Milwaukee track saw off your hands when you’re done with it. I hate that it’s taking up space in your shop that you could better use for something else. Keep up the great videos!
I have owned the Festool cordless only because when I needed one they were the only ones who made a track saw. Bought the corded version first and used it many years. Excellent saw. Then sold that and purchased the battery model. That is also an excellent saw but only downfall is 2 batteries and only 1 charger. Yes saw runs on 1 battery but at a significant power loss I found anyways. I’ve been waiting for the Milwaukee version and finally purchased just the saw as I’m on their battery platform. I used it on a job cut oak veneer sheet goods on my Festool tracks and I was really impressed with it. I did straight cuts, 45° bevel cuts. Excellent job. Used 12 amp battery. Found the saw nicely balanced even with the bigger battery. I’m using a Makita 6 1/2” blade on it. And it fits in my Festool systainer too until I build a case for it. I didn’t want that big box that came with the kit.
Just bought the Milwaukee track saw and this video reaffirmed my decision. I don't own a lot of Milwaukee cordless tools, but given how expensive high performance batteries are in general, it only makes sense that you would want to max leverage the battery portion of your investment with the platform that has way more multipurpose [not strictly woodworking] cordless tools in their lineup, [vs. Festool]. If cut quality is comparable, I think the Milwaukee wins out. Great video BTW! 👍🏼
Really pleased that you did this review of the Milwaukee system. My tool base is Milwaukee and was just lamenting to a friend that my very old cordless Milwaukee on the 14.4 batteries (1998 or so) was pretty dead and I would need a replacement for "off grid" farm fencing work. Now I can have a track saw too! Excellent!
Gotta say, you’ve got some of the best review/comparison videos on RUclips. Too many people just doing timed tests - “1-2-3-go”. LOL. Yours are much more informative.
Another great video - thank you. I bought the corded DeWalt Track Saw five years ago and it has served me well. No complaints. Take care of the tools you have and they will take care of you.
I don’t fault Milwaukee regarding the Bluetooth feature. Easy enough workarounds. Good review. After watching over a dozen different videos on track saws, I am inclined to go with Milwaukee. Thanks for helping me with my decision making process.
I got this saw for $350 on a sale and got a 110" Wen track for $90. Not too shabby and the saw works great! Even the anti-tip feature seems to work on the Wen tracks.
@@MrJamesv004 It was a home depot special deal somehow behind the scenes. It was kinda like pick 2 tools deal and somehow I managed. I legit thought the app was broken lol
Jeez, your title made me expect that this Milwaukee Track Saw (that I'm considering purchasing) would be a disaster, and you finish with "This is an absolute awesome saw! There is nothing wrong with it".(20:27). I can appreciate the point (that you and others make) that it hasn't raised the bar with any game changing innovation among the best track saws available especially since Milwaukee is the last major tool company to produce a track saw, but my take away is, it . Your statement in your title "But You Made This" nearly turned me off from considering this product any further. All that being said, may I say that I have watched several review videos as I research track saws, and you are by far the most informed and effective product reviewer out there. You're like a video version of the owners manual. I suspect I'll buy this since I'm already tied to the M18 system, and when I do, I'll be glad I subscribed to your station so I can review the features again. Thank you Sir!
Thanks, man... after several years of debating, "woodworking track saw or not" I'm going to take the plunge and get the M18. After seeing dozens of review/comparison videos and the fact that as a professional remodeling contractor i'm already $10k invested into Milwaukee, M18 it is! I do have several other branded tools, pieces that stand out in their respective categories at particular price points & features so I wasn't set on Milwaukee but in this case, it makes sense.
Thanks for this excellent comparison, although I am still a little conflicted. Here is what happened: apparently my insurance company has been overcharging me for my auto insurance over the past year, so they recently sent me a check for a little over a grand! Pretty sweet. Of course I am going to use the funds to get myself a new toy. I love my Makita track saw, but heck, I think it is time for something new. I am leaning towards the Festool TSC 55 KEB, because it will give me an excuse to eventually buy their excellent dust collection system. One can never have too many tools and for me, accuracy is King!
Awesome videos! This was very helpful! As a amateur woodworker my tool base became Milwaukee. Simply because I got tired of replacing tools and wanted something dependable. While all tools have their pros and con’s Milwaukee was just a preference. You brought up very good points as Milwaukee has had ample time to sort themselves from the top. All your videos are great! Keep up the amazing content!
Im team red for 90% of my power tools, but i wont be getting rid of my cordless Makita track saw any time soon , which happens to fit in the smaller "large" packout box perfectly with the double charger & batteries.
I couldn’t wait any longer and went with the Makita cordless. It’s such a specialized tool, I didn’t mind stepping away from Team Red for that purchase…I got the whole setup and saved $400.
Same here. I have the Makita cordless, and I feel it is absolutely one of the best bang for the buck track saws you can buy. The reason I went with Makita is I own several regular circular saws from the Skil to the Ryobi brushless to the Ridgid, and by far my favorite circular saw is my Makita is it's nice dedicated case. The motor is very quiet and it just oozes quality. So when I powered up the Makita track saw, I was not disappointed at all.
Very in depth. Thank you! To add one observation, I like the fact the Milwaukee incorporated the idea of people using it possibly without tracks and making it easier for people to use it without them (i.e. the depth gauge ease). It actually makes it so that you don't need a circ saw AND the track saw easier than the Festool (which can be used without the track but is not as quick to use). So, if I went up to this point...I'd probably go with the Milwaukee. For the anti-kickback feature, I'm wondering if the Festool has a patent? That might be why.
Great review. The "But You Made This" part is a little click baity, but I get. I got my Milwaukee a week ago and ready do love it. That said, for those looking at both, the best advise Matt gave is go with where you are already invested. For me, that's Milwaukee. If you don't have either, you should then look at all the other tools both offer (and the price) and pick one. Again, thank you for a great review.
Hey brother, Infinity Tools makes a 6 1/2” 20mm arbor track saw blade that will work on the M18 saw, so you don’t have to use the throw-away Milwaukee blades. Also, check out Tenryo blades for your TSC 55.
In Uk you can buy different brands blade replacement for festool tracksaw. Trend for starters makes them and Freud which looks very similar to US brand Diablo. At the end of the day what matters when you look for a blade replacement is its general size and bore size plus blade thickness as it must match with built in riving knife. Both brands are using common size blades
I'm already in the Milwaukee platform but... at that price range you are 100% correct. It should at minimum have all the same features. There is also the case that not all track accessories are fully compatible. TSO came out saying their products aren't fully compatible. I'm sure it's a tolerance thing and if both products are at opposite extreme of their tolerance it may not work. At the saw price not sure I'd be will to take that risk. Lastly, I don't do construction so a wired solution isn't a huge deal. May be slightly less convenient but if you don't know any better then you won't miss it. I purchased a Makita wired track saw. Meets my needs for a better price and their tracks are fully compatible with Festool track accessories. Might not have those fancy features but hey I don't own a SawStop either. Just have to pay more attention and do my best to eliminate any potential hazards that can cuz an accident. Ignorance is bliss right!
Good video as always. Another review I watched said that when using the Milwaukee cutting at 45 degrees it doesn’t cut to the same line as it does at 90 degree mark and that it trims some of the anti tear out strip at 45 degrees. Did you notice that as well? Also did you include the Wittworks link for the dust cover? Have a good one. Ron
Really great vid - thanks for this! Looks like a really nice saw. Myself, I got tired of waiting for Milwaukee and ended up buying the Makita 40v track saw... Love that thing, but I really wish the blade was on the left side. I'm tempted to ditch it for the Kreg just for that reason, but, I really hate cords. I know I know, doesn't make a bit of sense since nearly 100% of the time I'm tethered to a dust collector.
So your right they finally made a track saw. I am a Milwaukee tool guy so yeah that's the one for me. I think with the box you could take out the foam tool holder and put sockets or other things under the saw. I did like the auto switch on the vacuum but I will never own a fancy jobber like that anyway.
Nice video. I thought for sure you would mention the lack of an automatic blade locking system while changing the blade. That is a nice feature on the festool.
Thanks for your videos. I have the Makita 36 volt dual battery. Personally I feel it’s better than the over priced Festool. Test after test have shown the Makita outperforms the Festool. I would be interested in some tests between the Milwaukee and the Makita. Thanks!
Hey, a point for Milwaukee...if you are a veteran, you can pick up the pack-out kit for only $575.10. Im not sure of any military discounts on Festool.
I am glad I went Festool. We decided to buy our second tools first and are just starting out. We do have some Milwaukee tools but they’re mitres are not the best so decided to just make the leap to Festool.
The yellow guys make the best miter saws, imo. I'm a pro trim/finish carpenter/woodworker, and for the 20 years I've been doing it, I've used nothing but yellow as far as the miter saws go.
My biggest gripe is the lied about the cost. They originally said you could buy the kit for $549 then delayed the release by several months and massively increased the cost!
Great video. I ultimately went with the cordless festool. One huge Pro for the festool as well is that despite having 2 batteries it can operate on 1! I was on neither platform so it just made sense to go that direction with a company that’s been building these style saws since the start
Thanks for the great video, I’m in the market and shopping around and noticed some surprises, like the saw price alone means little if you’re not platform committed already because you need accessories with it. When you add track, batteries, chargers, clamps, dust collectors etc., that’s where the real price shows up. I’m mostly on 20v Dewalt tools but their track saw is 60v! Similar with Makita, they have 40V saw. MW at least has same battery voltage, that’s a big plus to me if I had MW tools, but I don’t. In conclusion I’m finding that the corded saws cost the same and in some cases more than the cordless ones in my area, so I’m leaning towards Makita because I’m not in the MW platform and the saw has great reviews and with accessories the ROI is pretty good. BTW you got a new subscriber, good video.
Dude your video is awesome. You just spent a lot of my money! I’ve always wanted a festool setup but when my father passed I inherited a ton of Milwaukee tools and batteries. I have a couple 12.0 batteries and they are BEAST!!!
If you’re a contractor, that 5-year warranty and packout box looks pretty good. Tools like this go through a beating on the job site. If you’re just doing woodwork, I think both of these tools will be amazing for you.
I will say Festool is old school, no questions asked. I’ve not had the same experience with MW and actually getting a response took several days. Festool called me back in 15 minutes, saw it was under warranty and that was it, zero questions.
@@5280Woodworking Agreed re: hit-and-miss service response at Milwaukee. I recently had an unnecessarily unpleasant conversation with a Milwaukee rep about a defective battery that left me... really shaking my head.
Awesome video!! Can the Milwaukee be adjusted so that the shoe allows it to fit exactly to have zero clearance on the strip already cut by another saw so that both Festool and Milwaukee can be used on the same rail and BOTH saws will have true zero clearance without having to change the strip?
I am Inclusively invested in Dewalt cordless tools (both 20vo/60v). Based on my wants and needs instead of a table saw this Dewalt Track Saw will do me just fine, just saying * I did have trouble finding the "Dewalt" 102 inch track at a decent price, but did find them on a site at a $93 cost net with free shipping and ordered one from them.
The Milwakee has anti tip for miter cuts with their own tracks, and Makita tracks. I have the anti-tip on Makita saw and like it. The riving knife and splinter guard make the Milwaukee a good upgrade candidate for Makita.
Great video! I would have been curious to see and hear the Festool cut thru the same piece of walnut with a single 18v and then dual. Anyway…great video…as always!!
I'm definitely going to buy the Milwaukee Track Saw Kit as I am already on the system. The upside of buying the kit from Acme Tools was the clamps being included in their kit along with the track saw carry bag, they're not included anymore. Wish I would've seen the video sooner. Are the clamps proprietary as well or can we use any track saw clamp out in the market already?
Awesome review, thank you! I went with the Kreg after you reviewed that one and I couldn’t afford the Festool. Hopefully Flex comes out with one so I can get that as a cordless saw. Until then I will stick with the corded Kreg. I totally agree that it would be a great saw for someone who is already on the M18 line or is wanting to start it.
The track saw prices are not reasonable. Only contractors can afford them. For a hobbyist it seems absurd to spend $900 on a saw and track. I think Skill makes a cordless saw and track kit for about $350.
What is this "cheap plywood" you're talking about? Lol! Great, in-depth video! You nailed all the questions I would ask with detailed answers and demonstrations! Thank you!
I just purchased the Milwaukee track saw combo kit and I'm waiting for it to be delivered. The High Output XC 8.0 that is part of the kit is $199 at Home Depot. I saw the same battery, new, for $110. I've watched a bunch of videos, and by now, I'm sure you have an opinion on what battery you would use in this saw, being you've been using it for a while. Whatever insight you can give is greatly appreciated.
Great work on the video. A couple replies: -riving knife will mitigate most kickback outright. I have the bosch saw and the instance of kickback I experienced actually lifted the saw lifted the saw up and backwards off the rail (and left some knicks in the aluminum) . It has no riving knife but needs one. I don't know if a track based anti reverse feature would've stopped it. -the xc 5.0 battery is OK for intermittent tasks where capacity is more important than sustained intense application (high discharge). The high output range are drawing electricity from more battery cells at once, which keeps the apparatus cooler and also more efficient. You're running fewer current thru more channels instead of lots of current thru fewer channels. Even tho its the same total, the transmission is more efficient in HD range. I understand this is how milwakuee's 18v holds up against the 40v makita and 60v dewalt etc. -The blade arbor is 20mm , so you can run bosch, makita, etc 6.5" blades on this unit - as long as it is the same kerf thickness as the riving knife. not necessarily proprietary
I think there some incorrect information at the 10:00 mark. Milwaukee uses a 6 1/2” blade with a 20mm arbor. Pretty standard. Lots of blade options, from what I can tell.
The Festool multifunction table allows their rail to be mounted on a hinge so it can be easily flipped out of the way when changing pieces and then locked down again when cutting. Will the Milwaukee rail properly mate with that hinge system?
From my research I believe that the best track saw on the market are made by Mafell. I did months of research before purchasing the Mafell MT55cc track saw. I also opted for the Bosch tracks (made by Mafell with Bosch logo/colors) since they are exactly the same as Mafell's, but costs less. My only regret is that I waited so long before buying a track saw.
I have a Makita but switching to Mafell. My main cordless tools are all Milwaukee but for me going Milwaukee wouldn't be much of a change from the Makita. The Mafell tracks are much better, made of steel and can be joined and align much better as opposed to the Makita.
This was a GREAT review. Unfortunately, in terms of cordless tools, I'm already vested in DeWalt, or I would've gone with Milwaukee. That's one of the many reasons the batteries are so expensive. But, I digress... So, I've got a 60v circular saw, and didn't like DeWalts either. So, in my search for track's I came across a site called TrueTrac. It's one of the best companies I've ever dealt with, on every level. I wound up purchasing several of their products (i.e. table track setup track channels), because of the phenomenal quality and customer service. Not trying to steal any of Milwaukee's thunder, or hijack this review, but until my own search, I had no idea TrueTrac even existed. I needed something of incredible quality that was universal. If this doesn't suit you, and you're already vested in your saws, then check them out. 👍
bro milwaulkee is trash for the price. dewalts track saw is stupid powerful. i like truetrac btw but i personally think that powertec ones are pretty good for the price.
@@dougupah8778 That's a good question, Doug. I honestly don't know. Honestly I bought it out of desperation, and was a bit cynical because it's expensive. When it arrived I was astonished at the quality of this stuff. I ran into some issues mounting the adapter plate to my saw (which has a unique setup), and I sent the saw to them, and they mounted it for me, and sent it back with extra parts for the future. Just a great (yet, small) company, with really good products, if you're in the same boat as me.
@@lmaoanatorhilarious2582 Interesting... That's one of the few negative comments I've heard about Milwaukee. Mind you, I'm referring to their lithium product line. They're ALL expensive, brother. I got burnt by two bad DeWalt batteries. They replaced one, to their credit. But, it left a bad taste in my mouth. That said, the DeWalt tools themselves have held up very well, I have to say. Although, I am having issues with my oscillating tool getting really hot at the handle. Anyway....it's a moot point now, I'm so deep into DeWalt tools, that I'll be buried with them. I can't remember why I didn't buy the DeWalt track saw....I think it was because I'm using a heavy duty 60v circular saw, not the "plunge" style (if I recall). That said, it all worked out in the end with the TrueTrac I wound up getting. Just wanted to share that info, for anyone who was in the same boat. 👍
@@phillamoore157 If it is I had bought one approximately 20 years ago under the name of EZ(and when I google EZ system it takes me to the True Trac site), knew the creator/inventor of it, worked good, had some really good features and was considerably less money then the current track saw models.
I really like the depth of your reviews and I readily agree with the entire review with the exception of proprietary blade comments. While, I would agree that Milwaukee did come out with their own line of 6.5” blades for the track saw (which are suspiciously identical to the CMT 6.5” blades) however, most every manufactured offers multiple 6.5” blades with a 5/8” arbor. Milwaukee may recommend their blades, however, they are by no means proprietary.
Great video, investment in battery brands is a strong motivator! I am ordering my Milwaukee tomorrow (good bundle deal with a hammer drill) and was wondering, are the tracks compatible with other track clamps? Thanks man, enjoy your content!
Finally got around to picking this up. Upgrading from the corded DeWalt. Been rocking that saw since brushed / NiCad was the only cordless option. It would be cool if you could get the red track in the states. Then again, it might get hard on the eyes. Question, is your riving knife a sheet-of-paper thickness away from the blade?
Majority of my power tools are milwaukee. I do have the packout system for my wall and the mobile handcart. I love Festool tools but I hate their 2003 printer looking boxes lol.
Spencer Lewis at Insider Carpentry noticed that the Milwaukee saw on the Festool track lines up with the splinter guard differently at 90 degrees vs 45 degrees. Is that also the case with the Milwaukee track (i.e. does the blade line up with the splinter guard regardless of the angle if you use the Milwaukee track)?
Great review. The prices are similar but how often is festool on sale? Everything I've bought of Milwaukee came with a free tool or free battery or a good discount. I would assume by Black Friday this will have some kind of discount or promo.
@731 Woodworks have you notice any issues using the TSO attachments with the Milwaukee Track?? I was looking into the rail square but wondering if there not compatible?
It is not compatible. Got an email from them shortly after filming this video stating that it is not compatible. Below is their statement: "At first look, the Milwaukee guide rail appears to be patterned after the Festool and Makita profiles. However, closer examination shows that multiple critical dimensions are different enough on the Milwaukee guide rail to interfere with the performance expected from TSO accessories. As a result, our Guide Rail Squares and Parallel Guide System are currently not compatible with the Milwaukee guide rail. Stay tuned for more."
TSO released a statement that their current items will not work with Milwaukee's track. Just went and checked the milwaukee track in the track holders and they do fit.
Hello! Thanks for the great videos! Do you know if the Milwaukee is compatible with the track for the Wen track saw? The tracks are MUCH cheaper and I have plenty of batteries and chargers for Milwaukee so hoping to save a few dollars...
Reading the specs on the kerf of the blade on Milwaukee and Festool... The Milwaukee is equivalent to 2.2mm and the newer Festool blades are 1.8mm. Should help with a longer runtime before changing batteries.
You mentioned the blade being proprietary. Is this still the case that only Milwaukee makes blades for it? Also, It seems the arbor cap link is no longer working.
Alri bro.. When I saw the headline to the video I was thinking it was a bad saw but it sounds like u are torn a wee bit to see how good they compare with the Festool.. I'm in the market for a Table saw but these track saws today do just as good a job for certain types of cuts once u have a good table to work on.. How hard is it to get KREG in Ireland? I'm struggling to get my hands on one of those newest HARVEY ALPHA SERIES pro table saws.. Man it has this coating on it that stops rust? I really want one of those bad boys. Now I know this is about Milwaulkee Track saws but I had to throw my silly comment in here bro.. Apologies. Love the content man. Always great viewing from ur good self. I'm still in the process of kitting out my shop but my tools are not of the highest quality. Yeah I want to eventually splurge on a couple of top line tools like the table saw and maybe some others like Impact drivers, drills, Bandsaw, etc but I use cheaper tools in my excuse for a manky shop and they serve me well enough. I bought a wet/dry grinder from a local store for 44.99. Ok so the motor mightn't last as long as some of the more expensive models but for what I need to for it'll probably last me 10 years or so. I also picked up a beast of a belt sander for the same price. I'm building cabinets for my shop for the past couple weeks bro. What tips could u or anybody in the comments give me to getting sturdy cabinets that'll last the time I'm in there? Really sorry for the longwinded comment man. I tend to get carried away when I start talking or typing about my little workshop.. LMAO.. Great content as always pal.. Keep up the brilliant work man..
Hey Matt. Thanks for the review. I have mine coming this next week. Question: I am looking for a way to have a button on the Milwaukee track saw that I can press to activate my shop vac. I have a Fenn that has an option to plug in a (corded) power-tool so when the tool is turned on the vac comes on, dwells for 8 seconds after finishing. Is there a device besides Fastcap RCV Remote ? That option seems troublesome because the manufacturer says don’t use on any vacuum or power-tool that has a 12 amp or greater draw. It is a unit plugged into the wall outlet and then the vacuum is plugged into the RCV. So. Is there a Bluetooth device that plugs directly into the Fenn onboard receptacle with a remote button attached to the track saw? Thanks. Hope you can help.
I have watched another youtuber who intentionally skewed the milwaukee tracksaw on a hardwood maple and the blade stopped right away before doing any damage on the wood. So i think milwaukee replaced the antikickback with riving knife and the 1 second brake of the motor when you let go of the button
I would buy a Festool Domino before I would invest in a track saw. Years ago I made two tracks for my old corded saw. One was 5 feet and the other is 9.5 feet. Both hang on the wall in my garage and I can cut sheet goods all day long on them. Plus, I made them both with an aluminum channel, and my saw rides in the channel and you can cut 45 degrees with no tipping. Both work great and I made them both for less than 30 bucks total. I have recently upgraded to the Cordless Dewalt saw so I had to recut both but they work and cost a lot less than either of these options. I break down sheet goods quite a bit when making cabinets but I find that my way works. Good video but both are just too expensive for what they do.
I wish Milwaukee offered a corded version of this saw. While I can see the advantage of a battery powered saw in some circumstances, I don't see it for use in a shop. You're going to want to use it with a dust collection hose attached, so the electrical cord isn't much of an added hinderance. Instead, the battery adds extra weight and future expense. Batteries wear out and are expensive to replace.
The best part of the Milwaukee is all the battery choices you have. Need more runtime, get a 12.0 pack. Need more power for some reason, get the forge battery. Add in the warranty and the abundance of stores that carry Milwaukee tools, makes it a no brainer in my opinion.
well being an old man and on social security as my main source of income I won't have to worry about which to choose for my needs;;;;lol;;;If I can't build what I want to build with what I have I don't need it;;;all my tools are old like me and all have their quarks to make fairly accurate and I am used to the features;;;also there is no more room in my shop for more tools;;;however have been thinking about downsizing;;I have at least three of every tool one needs in a shop with the exception of jointer;; only have one old craftsman four inch so limited on use with some things;;;all battery tools ryobi;;;including ten inch miter saw which I like;;;had to fine tune but works for me;;;;;however for those who want tools that do all the work for them both look great;;;just measure mark and push and automatic control;;;;lol;;;;I had my own straight cut jigs so to speak for various widths for straight edge cutting;;;;making sure enough pressure applied to keep saw going straight down jig on what cuttin;;;;thumbs up and keep us up to date
i have the festool TS55 track saw with a regular 220v (im in Denmark) but i have no festool battery machines. i do have a bunch of milwaukee m18 and m12 tools, would you recommend the milwaukee track saw or should i get the festool cordless one since im alrdy used to festool saws
I saw the TSO 90degree guide attached to the milwaukee track, do you know if the Benchdog guide is also compatible due to the thickness of the center being slightly bigger than festool's?
With regards to the blades, is 6½ not a standard circular saw blade? Therefore easier to get a blade for the milwaukee as you don't need to go proprietary blade?
Powertec, now makes a track for the Milwaukee, track saw. I included the Amazon, description below. This track can do both bevel, and straight cuts. Would love to see an updated on the Milwaukee, track review using the Powertec tack, 71871. POWERTEC 110" Track Saw Guide Rail Joining Set for Milwaukee Track Saws Includes 2x55" Aluminum Extruded Guide Rails and (2) Guide Rail Connectors for Woodworking Projects, 71871
Mikita was above Milwaukee. I have been changing over everything to festool slowly that is for obvious reason finally about to retire the makita for the festool track saw
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No thanks on either track saw... i'll stick to my 35$ 4 foot level, 2 5$ clamps and 80$ Metabo HPT circular saw.... lower cost, less foot print and it does not have a battery that will eventually need to be replaced.... and will not die, or wont be charged when you need it most.
As someone who does not have a track saw AND already on the m18 platform…I would reluctantly take the Milwaukee track saw off your hands when you’re done with it. I hate that it’s taking up space in your shop that you could better use for something else. Keep up the great videos!
I appreciate that you buy many of the tools you review yourself.
IMHO there are way too many “sponsored” tool reviews on RUclips.
I have owned the Festool cordless only because when I needed one they were the only ones who made a track saw. Bought the corded version first and used it many years. Excellent saw. Then sold that and purchased the battery model. That is also an excellent saw but only downfall is 2 batteries and only 1 charger. Yes saw runs on 1 battery but at a significant power loss I found anyways. I’ve been waiting for the Milwaukee version and finally purchased just the saw as I’m on their battery platform. I used it on a job cut oak veneer sheet goods on my Festool tracks and I was really impressed with it. I did straight cuts, 45° bevel cuts. Excellent job. Used 12 amp battery. Found the saw nicely balanced even with the bigger battery. I’m using a Makita 6 1/2” blade on it. And it fits in my Festool systainer too until I build a case for it. I didn’t want that big box that came with the kit.
Just bought the Milwaukee track saw and this video reaffirmed my decision. I don't own a lot of Milwaukee cordless tools, but given how expensive high performance batteries are in general, it only makes sense that you would want to max leverage the battery portion of your investment with the platform that has way more multipurpose [not strictly woodworking] cordless tools in their lineup, [vs. Festool]. If cut quality is comparable, I think the Milwaukee wins out. Great video BTW! 👍🏼
Really pleased that you did this review of the Milwaukee system. My tool base is Milwaukee and was just lamenting to a friend that my very old cordless Milwaukee on the 14.4 batteries (1998 or so) was pretty dead and I would need a replacement for "off grid" farm fencing work. Now I can have a track saw too! Excellent!
Gotta say, you’ve got some of the best review/comparison videos on RUclips. Too many people just doing timed tests - “1-2-3-go”. LOL.
Yours are much more informative.
I appreciate that!
Another great video - thank you. I bought the corded DeWalt Track Saw five years ago and it has served me well. No complaints. Take care of the tools you have and they will take care of you.
That's right!
I don’t fault Milwaukee regarding the Bluetooth feature. Easy enough workarounds. Good review. After watching over a dozen different videos on track saws, I am inclined to go with Milwaukee. Thanks for helping me with my decision making process.
I got this saw for $350 on a sale and got a 110" Wen track for $90. Not too shabby and the saw works great! Even the anti-tip feature seems to work on the Wen tracks.
I just got the milwaukee saw and router for 389! Good to know the wen track works for the milwaukee
@@DeathLikeWebz How did you manage to get that deal?
@@MrJamesv004 It was a home depot special deal somehow behind the scenes. It was kinda like pick 2 tools deal and somehow I managed. I legit thought the app was broken lol
Jeez, your title made me expect that this Milwaukee Track Saw (that I'm considering purchasing) would be a disaster, and you finish with "This is an absolute awesome saw! There is nothing wrong with it".(20:27). I can appreciate the point (that you and others make) that it hasn't raised the bar with any game changing innovation among the best track saws available especially since Milwaukee is the last major tool company to produce a track saw, but my take away is, it . Your statement in your title "But You Made This" nearly turned me off from considering this product any further. All that being said, may I say that I have watched several review videos as I research track saws, and you are by far the most informed and effective product reviewer out there. You're like a video version of the owners manual. I suspect I'll buy this since I'm already tied to the M18 system, and when I do, I'll be glad I subscribed to your station so I can review the features again. Thank you Sir!
Thanks, man... after several years of debating, "woodworking track saw or not" I'm going to take the plunge and get the M18. After seeing dozens of review/comparison videos and the fact that as a professional remodeling contractor i'm already $10k invested into Milwaukee, M18 it is! I do have several other branded tools, pieces that stand out in their respective categories at particular price points & features so I wasn't set on Milwaukee but in this case, it makes sense.
Great in-depth video. You do a great job going over every little details on these tools reviews!
I appreciate that!
Thanks for this excellent comparison, although I am still a little conflicted. Here is what happened: apparently my insurance company has been overcharging me for my auto insurance over the past year, so they recently sent me a check for a little over a grand! Pretty sweet. Of course I am going to use the funds to get myself a new toy. I love my Makita track saw, but heck, I think it is time for something new. I am leaning towards the Festool TSC 55 KEB, because it will give me an excuse to eventually buy their excellent dust collection system. One can never have too many tools and for me, accuracy is King!
Awesome videos! This was very helpful! As a amateur woodworker my tool base became Milwaukee. Simply because I got tired of replacing tools and wanted something dependable. While all tools have their pros and con’s Milwaukee was just a preference. You brought up very good points as Milwaukee has had ample time to sort themselves from the top.
All your videos are great! Keep up the amazing content!
Im team red for 90% of my power tools, but i wont be getting rid of my cordless Makita track saw any time soon , which happens to fit in the smaller "large" packout box perfectly with the double charger & batteries.
I think Mikita Tracksaw is great for the price. Well I got the corded version since I'm in team yellow.
I couldn’t wait any longer and went with the Makita cordless. It’s such a specialized tool, I didn’t mind stepping away from Team Red for that purchase…I got the whole setup and saved $400.
Same here. I have the Makita cordless, and I feel it is absolutely one of the best bang for the buck track saws you can buy. The reason I went with Makita is I own several regular circular saws from the Skil to the Ryobi brushless to the Ridgid, and by far my favorite circular saw is my Makita is it's nice dedicated case. The motor is very quiet and it just oozes quality. So when I powered up the Makita track saw, I was not disappointed at all.
Very in depth. Thank you! To add one observation, I like the fact the Milwaukee incorporated the idea of people using it possibly without tracks and making it easier for people to use it without them (i.e. the depth gauge ease). It actually makes it so that you don't need a circ saw AND the track saw easier than the Festool (which can be used without the track but is not as quick to use). So, if I went up to this point...I'd probably go with the Milwaukee. For the anti-kickback feature, I'm wondering if the Festool has a patent? That might be why.
milwaukee fanboys crying
@@gm08351 don’t be a keyboard muppet
It is clearly a copy of the Festool minus the patented items XD
Great review. The "But You Made This" part is a little click baity, but I get. I got my Milwaukee a week ago and ready do love it. That said, for those looking at both, the best advise Matt gave is go with where you are already invested. For me, that's Milwaukee. If you don't have either, you should then look at all the other tools both offer (and the price) and pick one. Again, thank you for a great review.
Hey brother, Infinity Tools makes a 6 1/2” 20mm arbor track saw blade that will work on the M18 saw, so you don’t have to use the throw-away Milwaukee blades. Also, check out Tenryo blades for your TSC 55.
Freud also makes a 6-1/2 20mm tracksaw blade...it cuts so nice.
In Uk you can buy different brands blade replacement for festool tracksaw. Trend for starters makes them and Freud which looks very similar to US brand Diablo. At the end of the day what matters when you look for a blade replacement is its general size and bore size plus blade thickness as it must match with built in riving knife. Both brands are using common size blades
Diablo it is a Freud's brand.
Freud (Frese Udinesi) is an italian company bought some years ago by Bosch.
I'm already in the Milwaukee platform but... at that price range you are 100% correct. It should at minimum have all the same features.
There is also the case that not all track accessories are fully compatible. TSO came out saying their products aren't fully compatible. I'm sure it's a tolerance thing and if both products are at opposite extreme of their tolerance it may not work. At the saw price not sure I'd be will to take that risk.
Lastly, I don't do construction so a wired solution isn't a huge deal. May be slightly less convenient but if you don't know any better then you won't miss it.
I purchased a Makita wired track saw. Meets my needs for a better price and their tracks are fully compatible with Festool track accessories.
Might not have those fancy features but hey I don't own a SawStop either. Just have to pay more attention and do my best to eliminate any potential hazards that can cuz an accident.
Ignorance is bliss right!
Can you supply a link or info on the TSO comment. I've not seen anything, and can't locate any such comment about compatibility with the Milwaukee.
Go check out WittWorks RUclips channel. He has it on a Short video
Good video as always. Another review I watched said that when using the Milwaukee cutting at 45 degrees it doesn’t cut to the same line as it does at 90 degree mark and that it trims some of the anti tear out strip at 45 degrees. Did you notice that as well? Also did you include the Wittworks link for the dust cover?
Have a good one.
Ron
Thanks
Not sure how I missed this! Sorry for the delayed response but THANK YOU SO MUCH!
Really great vid - thanks for this! Looks like a really nice saw. Myself, I got tired of waiting for Milwaukee and ended up buying the Makita 40v track saw... Love that thing, but I really wish the blade was on the left side. I'm tempted to ditch it for the Kreg just for that reason, but, I really hate cords. I know I know, doesn't make a bit of sense since nearly 100% of the time I'm tethered to a dust collector.
So your right they finally made a track saw. I am a Milwaukee tool guy so yeah that's the one for me. I think with the box you could take out the foam tool holder and put sockets or other things under the saw. I did like the auto switch on the vacuum but I will never own a fancy jobber like that anyway.
I like Festool but for a track saw I chose Makita and saved a few bucks. And am more than happy with it.
Best choice
Nice video. I thought for sure you would mention the lack of an automatic blade locking system while changing the blade. That is a nice feature on the festool.
Yeah, it has a lock button though. Not a big deal, IMO
@@731Woodworks I agree. Just another difference.
@@731Woodworks when are you going to compare the Mafell track saw
@@rickyperkins232 ....Mafell is in another league. Wish i could own one.
Thanks for your videos.
I have the Makita 36 volt dual battery. Personally I feel it’s better than the over priced Festool. Test after test have shown the Makita outperforms the Festool. I would be interested in some tests between the Milwaukee and the Makita. Thanks!
I also bought the Makita 36v dual battery track saw. Couldn't be happier, definitely a lot cheaper than this Milwaukee
Another vote for the Makita, it’s amazing, love that 36v
CMT and others have blades for both of those track saws. There are several options besides the OEM blades. Taytools sells them, for one.
I just found a cmt 165mm to fit this on taytools. Thanks
Hey, a point for Milwaukee...if you are a veteran, you can pick up the pack-out kit for only $575.10. Im not sure of any military discounts on Festool.
I am glad I went Festool. We decided to buy our second tools first and are just starting out. We do have some Milwaukee tools but they’re mitres are not the best so decided to just make the leap to Festool.
The yellow guys make the best miter saws, imo. I'm a pro trim/finish carpenter/woodworker, and for the 20 years I've been doing it, I've used nothing but yellow as far as the miter saws go.
@@m.d.d.3051 thanks, maybe I’ll consider them next time. So far my Kapex is cutting through wood like butter.
Awesome video! great to see an in depth video on them both, out of curiosity, have you ever tried the Mafell version of the track saw?
My biggest gripe is the lied about the cost. They originally said you could buy the kit for $549 then delayed the release by several months and massively increased the cost!
still beats the 1500$ festool in price
Great video. I ultimately went with the cordless festool. One huge Pro for the festool as well is that despite having 2 batteries it can operate on 1! I was on neither platform so it just made sense to go that direction with a company that’s been building these style saws since the start
Thanks for the great video, I’m in the market and shopping around and noticed some surprises, like the saw price alone means little if you’re not platform committed already because you need accessories with it. When you add track, batteries, chargers, clamps, dust collectors etc., that’s where the real price shows up. I’m mostly on 20v Dewalt tools but their track saw is 60v! Similar with Makita, they have 40V saw. MW at least has same battery voltage, that’s a big plus to me if I had MW tools, but I don’t. In conclusion I’m finding that the corded saws cost the same and in some cases more than the cordless ones in my area, so I’m leaning towards Makita because I’m not in the MW platform and the saw has great reviews and with accessories the ROI is pretty good. BTW you got a new subscriber, good video.
Thanks for the sub! I've heard nothing but great things about the Makita corded track saw. I don't think you would be disappointed with it.
Just buy the dewalt to Milwaukee battery adapters off Amazon, I’m dewalt 99%, but wanted their m18 Brad nailer, adapter works great.
Dude your video is awesome. You just spent a lot of my money! I’ve always wanted a festool setup but when my father passed I inherited a ton of Milwaukee tools and batteries. I have a couple 12.0 batteries and they are BEAST!!!
Thank you.
If you’re a contractor, that 5-year warranty and packout box looks pretty good. Tools like this go through a beating on the job site.
If you’re just doing woodwork, I think both of these tools will be amazing for you.
Totally agree
I will say Festool is old school, no questions asked. I’ve not had the same experience with MW and actually getting a response took several days. Festool called me back in 15 minutes, saw it was under warranty and that was it, zero questions.
@@5280Woodworking Agreed re: hit-and-miss service response at Milwaukee. I recently had an unnecessarily unpleasant conversation with a Milwaukee rep about a defective battery that left me... really shaking my head.
Awesome video!! Can the Milwaukee be adjusted so that the shoe allows it to fit exactly to have zero clearance on the strip already cut by another saw so that both Festool and Milwaukee can be used on the same rail and BOTH saws will have true zero clearance without having to change the strip?
Interesting that the track sold outside of the US (I'm in Australia) is completely anodized red. Great video, very well thought out and executed.
I am Inclusively invested in Dewalt cordless tools (both 20vo/60v). Based on my wants and needs instead of a table saw this Dewalt Track Saw will do me just fine, just saying
* I did have trouble finding the "Dewalt" 102 inch track at a decent price, but did find them on a site at a $93 cost net with free shipping and ordered one from them.
You need to compare the 2-battery Makita, now that you've covered most of the other bases.
I'm pretty sure he'd be happy to do it if you purchased and sent him one. ;)
Thx for a great review. After looking at what was available at the time I chose Makita and love it.
Same here. 40v
Working on the Jobsite you are happy for a proper sturdy Toollbox. Extra storage is always welcome.
The Milwakee has anti tip for miter cuts with their own tracks, and Makita tracks. I have the anti-tip on Makita saw and like it. The riving knife and splinter guard make the Milwaukee a good upgrade candidate for Makita.
Anti tip tab on the milwaukee doesn't seem to fit the makita tracks unfortunately 😅
driving knife prevents from downing plunge cuts, which is the whole point of track saws
Is it possible to do a Makita track saw comparison? You really outlined the features and differences between the two. Thanks
Great video! I would have been curious to see and hear the Festool cut thru the same piece of walnut with a single 18v and then dual.
Anyway…great video…as always!!
I'm definitely going to buy the Milwaukee Track Saw Kit as I am already on the system. The upside of buying the kit from Acme Tools was the clamps being included in their kit along with the track saw carry bag, they're not included anymore. Wish I would've seen the video sooner.
Are the clamps proprietary as well or can we use any track saw clamp out in the market already?
Awesome review, thank you! I went with the Kreg after you reviewed that one and I couldn’t afford the Festool. Hopefully Flex comes out with one so I can get that as a cordless saw. Until then I will stick with the corded Kreg. I totally agree that it would be a great saw for someone who is already on the M18 line or is wanting to start it.
I really hope flex comes out with one
@@TheWoodGuy69 I don’t think they will release one this year, but I would be willing to bet they will in the next couple years.
The track saw prices are not reasonable. Only contractors can afford them. For a hobbyist it seems absurd to spend $900 on a saw and track. I think Skill makes a cordless saw and track kit for about $350.
What is this "cheap plywood" you're talking about? Lol!
Great, in-depth video! You nailed all the questions I would ask with detailed answers and demonstrations! Thank you!
I just purchased the Milwaukee track saw combo kit and I'm waiting for it to be delivered. The High Output XC 8.0 that is part of the kit is $199 at Home Depot. I saw the same battery, new, for $110. I've watched a bunch of videos, and by now, I'm sure you have an opinion on what battery you would use in this saw, being you've been using it for a while. Whatever insight you can give is greatly appreciated.
Great work on the video. A couple replies:
-riving knife will mitigate most kickback outright. I have the bosch saw and the instance of kickback I experienced actually lifted the saw lifted the saw up and backwards off the rail (and left some knicks in the aluminum) . It has no riving knife but needs one. I don't know if a track based anti reverse feature would've stopped it.
-the xc 5.0 battery is OK for intermittent tasks where capacity is more important than sustained intense application (high discharge). The high output range are drawing electricity from more battery cells at once, which keeps the apparatus cooler and also more efficient. You're running fewer current thru more channels instead of lots of current thru fewer channels. Even tho its the same total, the transmission is more efficient in HD range. I understand this is how milwakuee's 18v holds up against the 40v makita and 60v dewalt etc.
-The blade arbor is 20mm , so you can run bosch, makita, etc 6.5" blades on this unit - as long as it is the same kerf thickness as the riving knife. not necessarily proprietary
I wish I weren't so cheap, I have been clamping levels to plywood for years as saw guides for my occasional projects and this looks so much better...
I think there some incorrect information at the 10:00 mark. Milwaukee uses a 6 1/2” blade with a 20mm arbor. Pretty standard. Lots of blade options, from what I can tell.
Key blades make a great alternative up the festool blades.
The Festool multifunction table allows their rail to be mounted on a hinge so it can be easily flipped out of the way when changing pieces and then locked down again when cutting. Will the Milwaukee rail properly mate with that hinge system?
From my research I believe that the best track saw on the market are made by Mafell. I did months of research before purchasing the Mafell MT55cc track saw.
I also opted for the Bosch tracks (made by Mafell with Bosch logo/colors) since they are exactly the same as Mafell's, but costs less. My only regret is that I waited so long before buying a track saw.
I have a Makita but switching to Mafell. My main cordless tools are all Milwaukee but for me going Milwaukee wouldn't be much of a change from the Makita. The Mafell tracks are much better, made of steel and can be joined and align much better as opposed to the Makita.
This was a GREAT review. Unfortunately, in terms of cordless tools, I'm already vested in DeWalt, or I would've gone with Milwaukee. That's one of the many reasons the batteries are so expensive. But, I digress... So, I've got a 60v circular saw, and didn't like DeWalts either. So, in my search for track's I came across a site called TrueTrac. It's one of the best companies I've ever dealt with, on every level. I wound up purchasing several of their products (i.e. table track setup track channels), because of the phenomenal quality and customer service. Not trying to steal any of Milwaukee's thunder, or hijack this review, but until my own search, I had no idea TrueTrac even existed. I needed something of incredible quality that was universal. If this doesn't suit you, and you're already vested in your saws, then check them out. 👍
bro milwaulkee is trash for the price. dewalts track saw is stupid powerful. i like truetrac btw but i personally think that powertec ones are pretty good for the price.
Is True Trac the old EZ track system? looks like it because you use your own saw and some of the components look familiar
@@dougupah8778 That's a good question, Doug. I honestly don't know. Honestly I bought it out of desperation, and was a bit cynical because it's expensive. When it arrived I was astonished at the quality of this stuff. I ran into some issues mounting the adapter plate to my saw (which has a unique setup), and I sent the saw to them, and they mounted it for me, and sent it back with extra parts for the future. Just a great (yet, small) company, with really good products, if you're in the same boat as me.
@@lmaoanatorhilarious2582 Interesting... That's one of the few negative comments I've heard about Milwaukee. Mind you, I'm referring to their lithium product line. They're ALL expensive, brother. I got burnt by two bad DeWalt batteries. They replaced one, to their credit. But, it left a bad taste in my mouth. That said, the DeWalt tools themselves have held up very well, I have to say. Although, I am having issues with my oscillating tool getting really hot at the handle. Anyway....it's a moot point now, I'm so deep into DeWalt tools, that I'll be buried with them. I can't remember why I didn't buy the DeWalt track saw....I think it was because I'm using a heavy duty 60v circular saw, not the "plunge" style (if I recall). That said, it all worked out in the end with the TrueTrac I wound up getting. Just wanted to share that info, for anyone who was in the same boat. 👍
@@phillamoore157 If it is I had bought one approximately 20 years ago under the name of EZ(and when I google EZ system it takes me to the True Trac site), knew the creator/inventor of it, worked good, had some really good features and was considerably less money then the current track saw models.
20,000 views in seven hours😮 that’s awesome good for you. Nice review enjoyed it.
I really like the depth of your reviews and I readily agree with the entire review with the exception of proprietary blade comments. While, I would agree that Milwaukee did come out with their own line of 6.5” blades for the track saw (which are suspiciously identical to the CMT 6.5” blades) however, most every manufactured offers multiple 6.5” blades with a 5/8” arbor. Milwaukee may recommend their blades, however, they are by no means proprietary.
Yep. I mis-spoke there.
this saw uses a 20MM arbor, like most track saws
Great video, investment in battery brands is a strong motivator! I am ordering my Milwaukee tomorrow (good bundle deal with a hammer drill) and was wondering, are the tracks compatible with other track clamps? Thanks man, enjoy your content!
Thanks for the review. I’m curious as to how the Dewalt 60v compares. I’m not in either of those platforms..
Liked the video a lot. Thanks for the time you put into it.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Finally got around to picking this up. Upgrading from the corded DeWalt. Been rocking that saw since brushed / NiCad was the only cordless option.
It would be cool if you could get the red track in the states. Then again, it might get hard on the eyes.
Question, is your riving knife a sheet-of-paper thickness away from the blade?
Mine is lined up with the blade.
I mean behind the tooth. Seems awfully close to me.
Majority of my power tools are milwaukee. I do have the packout system for my wall and the mobile handcart. I love Festool tools but I hate their 2003 printer looking boxes lol.
Spencer Lewis at Insider Carpentry noticed that the Milwaukee saw on the Festool track lines up with the splinter guard differently at 90 degrees vs 45 degrees. Is that also the case with the Milwaukee track (i.e. does the blade line up with the splinter guard regardless of the angle if you use the Milwaukee track)?
it lines up the same on the milwaukee track. Have a REEL on my Instagram that shows it
Man, this is a great review. You're a natural!
I appreciate that!
Just a note Matt, you can buy third party blades for the Festool, the Milwaulkee may be to new to see them. Did not find any for it. Be Blessed
Check Infinity Tool
OMG! What are these awesome looking classic boots you are wearing?
They are made by Ariat. I have them linked in the description if you want to check them out.
Great video, Matt. I was wondering how you square up your track to get a square cut? Thanks!
Measure on both ends and match the track
Or even better, use a track Square such as the TSO product or Woodpeckers
great video, do you think milwaukee will ever make a corded version of this?
Curious which blade you used when you rip cut walnut. Was it 24 tooth ripcut blade or the finish or fine finish blade?
Great review. The prices are similar but how often is festool on sale? Everything I've bought of Milwaukee came with a free tool or free battery or a good discount. I would assume by Black Friday this will have some kind of discount or promo.
@731 Woodworks have you notice any issues using the TSO attachments with the Milwaukee Track?? I was looking into the rail square but wondering if there not compatible?
It is not compatible. Got an email from them shortly after filming this video stating that it is not compatible. Below is their statement:
"At first look, the Milwaukee guide rail appears to be patterned after the Festool and Makita profiles.
However, closer examination shows that multiple critical dimensions are different enough on the Milwaukee guide rail to interfere with the performance expected from TSO accessories.
As a result, our Guide Rail Squares and Parallel Guide System are currently not compatible with the Milwaukee guide rail.
Stay tuned for more."
Does the Milwaukee Track fit in the Fast Cap Track holders? Also any info on TSO stuff with the Milwaukee Track.
TSO released a statement that their current items will not work with Milwaukee's track. Just went and checked the milwaukee track in the track holders and they do fit.
@@731Woodworks thanks at least I can get the track up on the wall then. Thanks.
Hello! Thanks for the great videos! Do you know if the Milwaukee is compatible with the track for the Wen track saw? The tracks are MUCH cheaper and I have plenty of batteries and chargers for Milwaukee so hoping to save a few dollars...
Yes, they should work on the WEN tracks. Milwaukee, Festool, WEN, Powertech, and Makita all share the same track design.
@@731Woodworks thanks brother!
Reading the specs on the kerf of the blade on Milwaukee and Festool... The Milwaukee is equivalent to 2.2mm and the newer Festool blades are 1.8mm. Should help with a longer runtime before changing batteries.
Where can I get the track parallel guide you were using while ripping the plywood...?
Need to get a Milwaukee dust extractor? And does it fit the Makita track better with the anti-tip?
debating between the M18 vs makita... leaning towards makita though
You mentioned the blade being proprietary. Is this still the case that only Milwaukee makes blades for it?
Also, It seems the arbor cap link is no longer working.
Alri bro.. When I saw the headline to the video I was thinking it was a bad saw but it sounds like u are torn a wee bit to see how good they compare with the Festool..
I'm in the market for a Table saw but these track saws today do just as good a job for certain types of cuts once u have a good table to work on..
How hard is it to get KREG in Ireland? I'm struggling to get my hands on one of those newest HARVEY ALPHA SERIES pro table saws.. Man it has this coating on it that stops rust? I really want one of those bad boys. Now I know this is about Milwaulkee Track saws but I had to throw my silly comment in here bro.. Apologies. Love the content man. Always great viewing from ur good self.
I'm still in the process of kitting out my shop but my tools are not of the highest quality.
Yeah I want to eventually splurge on a couple of top line tools like the table saw and maybe some others like Impact drivers, drills, Bandsaw, etc but I use cheaper tools in my excuse for a manky shop and they serve me well enough.
I bought a wet/dry grinder from a local store for 44.99. Ok so the motor mightn't last as long as some of the more expensive models but for what I need to for it'll probably last me 10 years or so. I also picked up a beast of a belt sander for the same price.
I'm building cabinets for my shop for the past couple weeks bro. What tips could u or anybody in the comments give me to getting sturdy cabinets that'll last the time I'm in there?
Really sorry for the longwinded comment man. I tend to get carried away when I start talking or typing about my little workshop.. LMAO.. Great content as always pal.. Keep up the brilliant work man..
Great video, how would those tracksaws compare with the Bosch Biturbo?
Hey Matt. Thanks for the review. I have mine coming this next week. Question: I am looking for a way to have a button on the Milwaukee track saw that I can press to activate my shop vac. I have a Fenn that has an option to plug in a (corded) power-tool so when the tool is turned on the vac comes on, dwells for 8 seconds after finishing.
Is there a device besides Fastcap RCV Remote ? That option seems troublesome because the manufacturer says don’t use on any vacuum or power-tool that has a 12 amp or greater draw. It is a unit plugged into the wall outlet and then the vacuum is plugged into the RCV.
So. Is there a Bluetooth device that plugs directly into the Fenn onboard receptacle with a remote button attached to the track saw?
Thanks. Hope you can help.
If it takes to much space in your shop I don’t mind taking it off your hands!! Could
Really use that saw
Ryobi and Milwaukee are all part of the same TTI company. I'm not surprised that they released the Ryobi first.
I have watched another youtuber who intentionally skewed the milwaukee tracksaw on a hardwood maple and the blade stopped right away before doing any damage on the wood. So i think milwaukee replaced the antikickback with riving knife and the 1 second brake of the motor when you let go of the button
I would buy a Festool Domino before I would invest in a track saw. Years ago I made two tracks for my old corded saw. One was 5 feet and the other is 9.5 feet. Both hang on the wall in my garage and I can cut sheet goods all day long on them. Plus, I made them both with an aluminum channel, and my saw rides in the channel and you can cut 45 degrees with no tipping. Both work great and I made them both for less than 30 bucks total. I have recently upgraded to the Cordless Dewalt saw so I had to recut both but they work and cost a lot less than either of these options. I break down sheet goods quite a bit when making cabinets but I find that my way works. Good video but both are just too expensive for what they do.
Does the milwaukee track fit in the holders you have on the garage door for the festool tracks, if so can I have a link for those
I wish Milwaukee offered a corded version of this saw. While I can see the advantage of a battery powered saw in some circumstances, I don't see it for use in a shop. You're going to want to use it with a dust collection hose attached, so the electrical cord isn't much of an added hinderance. Instead, the battery adds extra weight and future expense. Batteries wear out and are expensive to replace.
The best part of the Milwaukee is all the battery choices you have. Need more runtime, get a 12.0 pack. Need more power for some reason, get the forge battery. Add in the warranty and the abundance of stores that carry Milwaukee tools, makes it a no brainer in my opinion.
With the track having a lot of overhang, are you still able to clamp it down on both sides?
well being an old man and on social security as my main source of income I won't have to worry about which to choose for my needs;;;;lol;;;If I can't build what I want to build with what I have I don't need it;;;all my tools are old like me and all have their quarks to make fairly accurate and I am used to the features;;;also there is no more room in my shop for more tools;;;however have been thinking about downsizing;;I have at least three of every tool one needs in a shop with the exception of jointer;; only have one old craftsman four inch so limited on use with some things;;;all battery tools ryobi;;;including ten inch miter saw which I like;;;had to fine tune but works for me;;;;;however for those who want tools that do all the work for them both look great;;;just measure mark and push and automatic control;;;;lol;;;;I had my own straight cut jigs so to speak for various widths for straight edge cutting;;;;making sure enough pressure applied to keep saw going straight down jig on what cuttin;;;;thumbs up and keep us up to date
Thanks for this in depth review!
i have the festool TS55 track saw with a regular 220v (im in Denmark) but i have no festool battery machines. i do have a bunch of milwaukee m18 and m12 tools, would you recommend the milwaukee track saw or should i get the festool cordless one since im alrdy used to festool saws
I saw the TSO 90degree guide attached to the milwaukee track, do you know if the Benchdog guide is also compatible due to the thickness of the center being slightly bigger than festool's?
With regards to the blades, is 6½ not a standard circular saw blade? Therefore easier to get a blade for the milwaukee as you don't need to go proprietary blade?
So how about a test of the 60v Dewalt track saw, looks awesome in Acmes ads
Powertec, now makes a track for the Milwaukee, track saw. I included the Amazon, description below. This track can do both bevel, and straight cuts. Would love to see an updated on the Milwaukee, track review using the Powertec tack, 71871.
POWERTEC 110" Track Saw Guide Rail Joining Set for Milwaukee Track Saws Includes 2x55" Aluminum Extruded Guide Rails and (2) Guide Rail Connectors for Woodworking Projects, 71871
is the festool corded version the same as the cordless other than the obvious differences of course :)
Mikita was above Milwaukee. I have been changing over everything to festool slowly that is for obvious reason finally about to retire the makita for the festool track saw