Avantone MP-1 : Interestingly Different
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- Опубликовано: 25 авг 2024
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TIME STAMPS:
Build & Comfort - 1:26
Voice Modes - 4:48
Sound Test Parameters - 12:30
Bass Response - 13:10
Mids Response - 15:08
Treble Response - 18:00
Detail Retrieval - 19:52
Soundstage - 21:42
vs Avantone Planar - 22:08
Overall Sound Signature - 23:26
Value & Conclusion - 24:12
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I’ve been using my mp1s happily for years. I admire the depth and precision of your tests! A week ago I got guy to “fix” the input after the metal bit where you input the cable broke. He changed it so the cable is permanent. I just got back to the city I live in and noticed everything is in mono now. Do you think it’ll be difficult to fix so the switch works again? I just saw him working on the left headphone so assumed he wouldn’t be messing with the stereo field. I’m living in a small town in the north of Argentina, not a lot of options for fixing my problem. Any advice would be highly appreciated.
I think the Mixcubes mode is really for referencing as you are producing and mixing songs, to get a better idea of where your midrange and balance is- so if you’re not hearing much difference in the tracks you’re referencing, it’s because they are already mixed and mastered professionally and should therefore translate closely in stereo mode- it’s only going to reveal flaws in your production /mix/master
Listen dude. This head phones is NOT audiophile headphones. They are headphones for mixing and mastering engineers to check their OWN mixes for mistakes and faults in the midrange area of the mix.
The reason it cuts off the bass and treble, is because it will make it easier to focus on the midrange, as the bass and the treble would distract from the mixing process of correcting the mid frequencies. Yes, when using these headphones, you should be in front of a mixing desk or at least in front of a DAW using the equalizer adjusting the high and low mid bands on your recorded tracks, like vocal, bass, drums etc.
The reason there is no difference in what you are listening to is because you are listening to professionally mixed and mastered songs where it already has been mixed and mastered to perfection. Probably using Yamaha NS10s or Mixcube. No serious pro record labels will release mixes with mistakes! So, expecting to find mistakes in commercial released tracks..... seems highly unreasonable, as is not what these headphones are intended for. It is to make sure you can hear YOUR OWN mistakes and that YOUR mixes translate correctly.
Unless you are a mixing engineer, these headphones are not really for you.
Thank you so much for this video
These are pretty heavy headphones. First day was really uncomfortable. Second day I wore these with tighter clamping than what I'm used to. Much better. I'm currently having these driven from an OLD headphone amp with a single 12AX7 tube and BurrBrown dac. I can very easily tell a difference between the three settings. I have an O2/ODAC on the way. I'm going to use these for a little while before going back to the DT990 600ohm. I'm wondering what these headphones will feel like with Brainwavz pads. Comfort so far is the biggest detractor I have with these headphones.
What a great review! It sounds like R2D2's grandson has created his first video review! And wow! What a complete review it is! He even tears off the earcup ... then later explains how hard it is to get them back on! You won't see THAT in another review! My only suggestion would be to take a shot of whiskey before ripping your next movie! It sounds like you are over-enunciating! Unless of course you are from the planet Zargot (in which case you're slurring horrendously). Seriously, R2D4, a tiny bit of personality would go a long way!! Smile maybe (page 16 in the training manual)? -- You are the first to TRULY tackle the "S-and-C-sound-the-same" issue. Thank you for that. So many people have simply dissed these phones and returned them thinking they were broken. It's impressive how quick you are to take a wrench to these! FUN! -- This, while sounding robot-sourced, is by far the most thorough review I've ever seen, and it's for a headphone, a device you can't actually play in our ears! Magical! I will therefore enable the RUclips™ "auto inform" functionality ... in other words, you got a new human subscriber! And damn, homey, keep it up!
Thanks for the reveal
I have notice the mp1 mixcube mode effect massivly depends on the source and amp. But it does not push the mids forward I notice the mid bass hump dissapears the extension up top dissapears along with a sharper sub roll off but still not dramatic. I've owned these since release and although not my favourite can I can never bring myself to sell it. Its such a unique sound and you can really hear that sub acucuratly. My mp1 i would not say is neutral like yourself but very natural bass focused or warm and could do with more extension up top but still love it (off to get hearing re tested as I did not find it overly siblant).
As a tool it makes you work harder then ever before and delivers great results especially when mixing bass frequencies. You can pick these up in the UK second hand so cheap like 100 dollars
Great review pal.
It’s an ugly duckling but somehow adorable. I was testing the Xuelin H6 with the MP1 and lost track of time. It’s a good sounding headphone
Would you say 500mw into the Planar is more than enough? Or you think it really needs more power to shine?
Yeah that’s plenty. Avantone says you’ll need about 250mw minimum, and I can’t tell any difference with higher power output.
Been binge watching all your reviews lol. No theme do you recommend 660S over the 6XX? Was thinking of getting one of those , but the price increase seems outrageous. I'm using the JDS Element 2.
58x
@@Melkorify I have those. They're average to me. Was hoping the 6xx to be a little better.
@@epicmike3915 ok.
They sound pretty much the same to me. I think Sennheiser’s goal was to make the 650 easier to power, hence the 660s. If you want to use a headphone with any affordable amp, then the 660s makes sense. Its typically more expensive than the 650 or 6xx so that might be a factor as well.
@@NoThemeReviews Thanks. I might purchase the 6xx. How can I sent you headphones? I have the 58x wonder if you could do a comparison. Or at least compare it to something else.
Please! Can you find to buy a cheap DT770 80ohm(or250ohm) to compare with 1more triple driver over-ear?? Or I should make a request??
I think you can add Beyers to the list of studio headphones since I see those in almost every studio video.
Yes especially the 770 and 880. But they aren’t neutral and there’s far too much misinformation about them.
@No Theme Reviews would you then spread the right information, especially about DT 1990?
Oh I spent a great deal of time on the 1990 and 1770 last year. Both are way overpriced, but the 1770 is one of the worst headphones I’ve heard. I sold it as soon as I could. Months later people started to complain about the same things I had, then Drop released the 177x, which all but conceded Beyer had screwed up with the 1770.
The 1990 has bass distortion at high volume-and I kept pointing that out. I think the 1990’s treble is a bit bright but nothing like the 990.
@@NoThemeReviews thanks for your response. I was also disappointed after getting a dt 1990. It is very well built and looks very nice, IMO, but that's it.
@@NoThemeReviews I only have the 990 Pros as a reference. You said the Planar has a sub-bass roll off, would you say the beyers have less roll off? And in comparison to the 990 or 1990 which you said distorted, is the Planar not distorting? I'm only wondering because I hear a lot of dub and electronic music which has a lot off (sub)bass and never had the feeling of distortion, only at sound levels where it gets generally unpleasent to hear. I really like the sound signature of my 990s, especially the bass, but would prefer less harsh highs. So what you said about the Planar sounds good, but maybe I have a completely false impression.
Please recommend some balance fun sounding headphones.🙏🙏
At any price point.
M1070, M1570, DT880 250ohm, Sivga Phoenix, Focal Stellia, ZMF Eikon, T1 2nd Gen, Base Audio G12
@@NoThemeReviews thank you so much for the reply
@@NoThemeReviews please, recommended some headphones for soundstage width.
@Hemolbeta yeah I understand, but he is great guy.
He replied most of the my questions. That's why I ask him about my confusion.
I live in Bangladesh, no amazon here. So very difficult to try many headphones and choose one. 😓😞😓
@@towsifshahriarshovo The M1570 and the Modhouse Argons are wide
Am I remembering incorrectly? Did you do a video where you modded an old iPod? I can’t seem to find that video now...
Yup “My iPod Mod Journey And The Lessons Learned”
@@NoThemeReviews thanks. I’m thinking that the iFi HipDac might stack nicely with a modded old iPod...
Avantone planar or hi x55 gives more sound details?? Also, which has wider soundstage??
X55 for both
@@NoThemeReviews That's incredible!!
May I ask what are the best dynamic and planar headphones you've ever heard??
I don't know what you mean the "best". I can tell you what my personal preference, my favorites, are: LCD-2 pre-fazor from 2015, Avantone Planar, Sivga Phoenix, Base Audio G12, M1570.
@@NoThemeReviews the word "best" was a bad choice of words as it it subjective so that's my bad. Thank you for your kind reply, I'm looking at upgrading my Sennheiser HD590's signature that I bought many moons ago so this helps 👍
Hi do you have a review of Avantone RED/BLACK in comparison with Avantone MP-1 ?
Nope just this video
@@NoThemeReviews Whats the difference by the way between these two Avantone ? Also, some of the posting made in headfi are full of crap. They get offended easily and some are very friendly !
@@nicktan4530 I briefly compared the two in this video. I don't remember how these two compared off the top of my head; I don't use the MP1.
@@NoThemeReviews How come ? You do not own them ? Which one is more nuetral to the point you hear the amp, dac and recording ?
I love the steampunk aesthetic of this hp
Are there any good closed back headphones in the $200 to $300 range?
What sound signature are you looking for?
@@NoThemeReviews Neutral
There are a few close to neutral you may want to consider: Monoprice HR5, Oneodio Studio Headphones, DT770, NAD HP50, Sennheiser HD380 Pro, OLLO S4R, Avantone MP1. I know lots of professionals recommend the MDR-7506.
Avantone customer service is the worst. If anything goes wrong with them you’re assed out. True story.
Basically this headphone is a different sounding headphone with a switch I can't tell if it's open back or not it looks like it very strange product but there is probably a customer that will want this feature probably because he or she will be allergic to EQ on the PC
I’ve listened to many planar headphones and I don’t get the hype. To my ears dynamic headphones sound better than planar.
I’m with you on this
i think the MP-1 is Heavy
They are one of the ugliest headphone i've ever seen in video reviews, i hope they are less ugly in real person. >
They are a platypus.
Honestly they aren't that bad in person. I wouldn't wear them casually though. They aren't made for that purpose. It's meant strictly for studio use. Having said that they translate incredibly well.
I like their aesthetic. 🤔
Ужасные наушники за свою неоправданную цену.
Давят на голову, звучат очень мутно
Фича с переключением в моно и в их "эмуляцию мониторов" мягко сказать хуйня полная
Крепление этих 50мм динамиков просто ужасное, оно просто отвалилось.
С коробки пластина алюминиевая с левой стороны не была нормально прикручена и звинела.
В общем за 13~ к это лажа полнейшая
Старые shure srh 404 давали более правильный звук да и в целом как по мне на голову выше.
В общем не советую не в коем образе брать эту срань