I’ve always liked the idea of a bolt action rifle with a 16” barrel & folding stock. I featured one years ago but it was something I put together. This time I wanted to show a factory option, the Sig Cross in .308. I topped it with a Vortex Razor LHT 4.5-22X50, Nightforce Ultralite rings, and Huxwrx suppressor. A big thanks to Brownells & Silencer Shop for making this video happen! Check ‘em out!
What was the one you threw together? & how did it do? I've been looking for a lightweight packable rifle to hunt elk. Do you have a tag for your old video? Thanks for ur vids & the input. Keep it up.🤙🏼 P.s. would you recommend this or just get like a rem700 sps tactical.. the heavy barreled 20in 308?
For the East Coast, 16" velocities get you 90% of what you'll run in to for hunting or most ranges. One of my toys years ago was a H&R HandiRifle .308 cut down to 16.5" threaded as an exercise. It was easily MOA and truly handy! With no action to cycle, it is much shorter overall than any other action. Proved the concept for me anyways. Great vid!
I mean… Christiansen Arms has a lightweight rifle in the same configuration but Christiansen Arms is .4lbs heavier, according to the weights they provide. The Fix by Q is also a similar configuration that is .2lbs less than the Sig. Lengths are 25” for the Cross, 28” for the Christensen Arms and 25.9” for The Fix when folded. All three are excellent, lightweight, precision rifle bolt guns that would work for a “bag” precision rifle.
@@ctrip34 You are correct, of the three examples I gave, the Sig Cross is the most budget friendly option, or if you had a $4000 budget, you could certainly get better glass, accessories and ammunition with the extra money you have after the purchase of the gun itself. I was only pointing out that it isn’t a new concept, and I’ve certainly been able to make an even cheaper Precision bag gun myself with a Ruger American, with an MDT chassis, but I can’t speak to its weight in particular. I’m not sure how much difference it makes to most people, a pound or half a pound, when the system is purpose built to be carried in a bag. Overall length in its shortest configuration I would think is the most important part. I don’t mean to diminish The Cross at all. I think it’s excellent. Just that the concept of a precision bag gun has been possible since before the Cross existed.
Everyone reviews the 6.5 CM Sig Cross and I would just like to thank you for doing the 308. I liked the Sig Cross but your review on it has me sold! Thanks!
@@seanmccay6448 Yes, Sierra King bullets. That being said, a bullet does what a bullet does and you can still drop a soft target with a match bullet just becomes more about shot placement.
@@seanmccay6448 You don't need witchcraft powered expansion with razor petal voodoo sliceamajigs if you if aim for the heart lung shot and can nail nearly every time. Aiming for the heart even a close miss with target rounds, even without much deformation will most likely do the job humainly.
Never thought I would like my SIG Cross as much as I do. I use it for everything. I wish SIG would release their barrel extensions so I could get a carbon wrapped barrel.
My amended statement: I highly doubted that this rifle would be consistent at that range. Sig makes great machine gun barrels, but they are relatively new to the precision game. Additionally. I wasn't sure if the the shorter barrel would sufficiently stabilize the round. However, after watching this video, and a few others, it's clear that this rifle certainly has the capacity to perform well; with proper natural alignment, trigger discipline, and dope. It's unlikely that I'll have the opportunity for 1K yard shots, as the southern Indiana terrain dictates otherwise, but there are plenty of 600 yard shots along powerline pathways and our ever-diminishing array of cornfields (perhaps a tad more range in the larger fields). I'm mostly looking at getting longer shots on coyotes, and an occasional deer (only on private property in the Hoosier). I kind of consider this the perfect scout rifle, with better long range performance than you'll find on most scout rifles. Ostensibly, I could mount a holographic sight on it, iron sights, or just go with a traditional scope set-up; if so desired. I believe old Col Cooper would approve. I am placing my order today for a 308 model. Also notable, Straight Jacket Armory carries prefit barrels for this rifle, if one feels the need to improve the performance even more, or change the chambering.
@@6Dasher you’re not competing with a sig cross. Anyone can hit 1000m. A diamondback tactical on a Ruger American in 6.5Cr can hit 1000m. That doesn’t mean it’s GOOD. The cross is ass.
Mike Lilly from the RUclips channel, Long Range with the Lillys just took a stock Sig Cross to the March NRL Hunter match and took 2nd with it. That rifle is definitely capable in any condition
I NEED THIS IN .308! A guy I hunt with got one last year. Shoots lights out! And since it has a 16” barrel, even with a suppressor it’s a manageable length.
It's a great gun to strap onto a backpack for a hunt. I've noticed my local gun shops have sold more of them to people who want a lightweight gun for a bit of a hike.
My 308 Cross loves Federal Prem 175gr Terminal Ascents. They aren't cheap but they have always been a phenomenal hunting round. Though, Barnes makes a 175gr target/match shank/bullet that has the same BC which is a great option to use in conjunction with the term ascent. If you reload, of course, you can use the Barnes for practice and then the Term Ascent for hunting and they shoot very very similar and have identical real world drop. At least this is what I discovered after 440 rounds through my 308 Cross. Hopefully, my babbling helps someone!
One of the best out of the box factory rifle is AI AX. Yeah it cost an arm,but not only does it have one solid action, bonded to the chassis, it also has a folding stock over the bolt, and the quick barrel change. That last feature just smoked every other "covert" sniper on market. When the AI AX is folded and barrel removed its only 45cm / 17inch in total size. Verty few bolt actions can come close to this concealability. Even teh Remingston MSR can't do it because of non-quick barrel change. Best of all its like practically holding zero even after barrel install/uninstall.
Got my cross in 6.5, it goes to 800/900 meters all day. Love the lower recoil of the 6.5, you can shoot all day without that slight bruise on your shoulder from the .308.
@@J.Young808 The barrel life in the 308 is going to be a lot better. 6.5 isn't worth it as a cartridge unless you are trying to only target shoot. Less recoil at the expense of less energy and smaller wound cavities.
I used the Hornady 168 gr SSTs this deer season and they worked out great. I was getting just under 1 MOA at 100 with em. Bagged 2 this year at about 75 yards
It looks like the Ruger precision 22lr. If you didn't know it was a 308 , I would have never guessed. Very nice , wow that's some long range shooting !
Found I wasted a lot of time with the Savage 110 tactical I had years ago testing different loads outside of 168gr. Dome pieced every doe I ever shot with it between 50-300 yards. Outside of 168gr noslers…it was iffy for dome shots out at 300+. 168s of local loaded 168 ballistic tips, Hormady BTHP, and Winchester silver tips….all performed very well from that pre accutrigger bull barrel rifle. Head shots became my challenge and I could watch impacts with how well that gun was tuned to the big tasco on it. Preserve meat and guarantee quick kill.
I Have 2 Sig Crosses In .308 & Also 2 Q-Fixes In 8.6 Blackout. Both Foldable For Backpacks. To Each Their Own However I Have Always Preferred Bolt Firearms To Gas Largely In Part Of Maximum Accuracy & Extremely Easy Clean Up/Servicing. The .308’s Give Me 1200 Any Given Day. However 800-900 Yards For The Bigger 8.6 Blackout. My MK-21 & MK-22 Bolts Get Me 1760 (1) Mile & Change Consistently. Sig Cross Is Sweet For Its Purpose As Well As The 8.6 Blackout For Lightweight In Backpacks Do All Rifles. I Use Only BANISH & CGS SUPPRESSORS Because Of Quality & Sound.
never thought about the idea of weighing a gun by weighing yourself with and without it, thats funny. always enjoyed the more sleek style bolt guns like the cross and seekins havak.
Thanks for showing some ammo performance. I'm having to try and figure out what mine likes best. Hornady ELD-x 178gr was BAD for some reason. Tried some 170gr Norma TipStrike and those were better 1-1.5" groups at 100. Would like to find better though. I just want to be able to confidently hunt big game out to 400yds. Don't feel like I'm quite there yet.
Recommend trying Federal 165g Trophy Bonded Tip. I’m able to get consistent 0.5 MOA with my Sig Cross 308. This is a fantastic hunting bullet for medium to big games.
I've been looking at purchasing a Sig Cross for hunting. I've been debating whether to get it in the shorter, lighter .308 or the longer barreled 6.5 Creedmoor, I'm leaning towards 308 just so I don't have to add another caliber to stock up on.
I have one of these in a 24" heavier weight prs style... Am i abdolutely nuts for wanting this lightweight version with a lower power scope as well for a carry rifle? Id really like something different, cause the collection gets boring if its too much of the same... but i really enjoy this thing way too flipping much. I feel the light weight would just enhance my enjoyment.
Agree; I have the same rifle as a hunting setup but would like a longer barrel for precision setup. Almost got ruger precision but damn its heavy compared to cross
I love mine. Fantastic hunting rifle. Doesn't compete against high-end stuff and doesn't match any custom built guns. But anything out to 600yds, I can hit.
My local store has both this and the Q minifix. The q is very flimsy in comparison, feels like it was made out of bent up mailbox metal, totally not worth the price. If Sig made an SBR 300 BLK version there would be no reason to even look at the q
@@wiseguy724 Q is extremely expensive too. The mini fix is pretty damn cool but still very expensive. We have some people that go to our local ranges that hunt with the mini fix close range for hogs suppressed
The SIG Cross is great except for ONE THING. That stupid single stack magazine! As a general rule, I don't buy rifles with single stack mags which need to be front loaded. They should have designed it to take SR25/LR308 mags -- particularly the Magpul PMAGs. Not only would loading be much easier, you will also be able to get 10, 20, 25 mags for it.
Hello from Europe, good video as always Did you ever tried the Blaser R8 ? Its a high end hunting with very good accuracy and quick change barrell and scope mount system without losing zero
Great vid, you’re one hell of a shot. I’m thinking of building a short light 308 build. Probably get the XLR Magnesium chassis as a start, may SBR it but am currently shopping for a 16 inch barrel, maybe flat with deep flutes so that I have enough shoulder for my suppressor. What action and barrel maker do you think gives the most bang for the Buck? I’ll probably put a 3-15 of some sort on it. Thinking of 600 and on. Thank you for your input.
I have that same gun and scope but w/ a DEAD AIR TI suppressor. I am yet to shoot those ranges but nice to see it being done. What model bi pod are you using? Thanks
It’s pretty ordinary for the “tube”. People seem pretty chilled, polite and respectful. It’s a nice change from the usual political/religious/class/race bull that has contaminated most online platforms.
Try some prime match ammo, I chronographed 20 rds through my rem 700 aacsd and had a standard diviation of only 16fps, hard to get that close even with hand loads.
Loved this! Was going to build something similar out of a Tikka but ended up ditching the project, maybe on day I will pick one of these up! I know there's lots of opinions out there on them but for any ranges I have access to, you just proved its more than capable.
They shoot well but I don’t like the idea of supporting a company that beta tests on its consumers. The many massive safety recalls sig issues is a problem for me. The first run of these things would go off if you shook them too hard.
@@brettorton2363 Yeah I can imagine! I handled one at Cabelas once and it was great, my favourite thing is having a stock that folds over the bolt instead of making it triple wide
SO i am here to request that you shoot air guns also. my AEA CHALLENGER PRO.30CAL is about the same weight and folds up and you can stick it in a backpack. and has accuratly been shot at over 400 yards. my element max 51cal only weighs 5.2 lb without scope and bi-pod and is shorter and well the roundball is 182grain and that is its lightest projectile. but say on projectiles i use a .284dia hornedy super shock 162grain that wont expand at under 1300fps and a .30cal air gun wont shoot faster than that anyway so basically the projectile wont expand and becomes basically slow armor peircing . i have shot through a couple steel house doors and the round came out pretty enough to put right back into the air rifle and shoot again... advantages with air guns , less recoil, no muzzle flash ever, and you can take more rounds with you cause no brass or powder needed... my challenger pro folds down into a 26inch length and the element max about the same (course the hp ss max folds down to 20 inches. and weighs 4.8lb without accessories and comes in calibers from .30 upto .495(.50cal) and if you fold it to 20 inches you can stuff it just about anywhere. and it has a couple mags with any caliber. just trying to open your mind to different possibilities.
I recently purchased this exact firearm for our deer/predator rifle. My plans are to swap out the 6.5cm barrel and replace it with a 18" 22cm. Here in SD we are limited to a .22 caliber projectile when using thermals, but its also a legal round for deer and antelope. It could be the perfect lightweight laser beam to cover all my deer sized game on down.
It may be because it is intended as a hunting rifle? I know my fathers dirt cheap Remington 783 would shoot just sub moa with 168gr....maybe the rifling doesn't prefer the heavy 175gr?
It's a 1:10 barrel that's been the standard for decades, predating the 783. The 175 is a whole 7 grains heavier and a few thousandths longer than a 168. Guns are picky about what they like. The 175 load could have had less consistent velocity affecting the groups for all we know. Too many factors at play to make a generalization with limited information.
Compact rifle with accuracy and range is what's coming. Trick is low recoil , projectile and the 11pound weight Max. I'm with you but would like to see a falcon strike recoil pad, monolithic copper low powder super long hybrid flat flight projectile, accuracy international mag and star ball HD added to a compact system. Effective compact system for dense bush and urban inviroment with a long reach if required when autos are taken ,is the future. Thank mate. Andrew Nz
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I’ve always liked the idea of a bolt action rifle with a 16” barrel & folding stock. I featured one years ago but it was something I put together. This time I wanted to show a factory option, the Sig Cross in .308. I topped it with a Vortex Razor LHT 4.5-22X50, Nightforce Ultralite rings, and Huxwrx suppressor. A big thanks to Brownells & Silencer Shop for making this video happen! Check ‘em out!
What was the one you threw together? & how did it do? I've been looking for a lightweight packable rifle to hunt elk. Do you have a tag for your old video? Thanks for ur vids & the input. Keep it up.🤙🏼
P.s. would you recommend this or just get like a rem700 sps tactical.. the heavy barreled 20in 308?
For the East Coast, 16" velocities get you 90% of what you'll run in to for hunting or most ranges. One of my toys years ago was a H&R HandiRifle .308 cut down to 16.5" threaded as an exercise. It was easily MOA and truly handy! With no action to cycle, it is much shorter overall than any other action. Proved the concept for me anyways. Great vid!
I mean… Christiansen Arms has a lightweight rifle in the same configuration but Christiansen Arms is .4lbs heavier, according to the weights they provide. The Fix by Q is also a similar configuration that is .2lbs less than the Sig. Lengths are 25” for the Cross, 28” for the Christensen Arms and 25.9” for The Fix when folded. All three are excellent, lightweight, precision rifle bolt guns that would work for a “bag” precision rifle.
@@MochiMoose the fix is almost like 3k or more isnt it?. & christiansen arms is 2k+ I'm sure. Depending which one.
@@ctrip34 You are correct, of the three examples I gave, the Sig Cross is the most budget friendly option, or if you had a $4000 budget, you could certainly get better glass, accessories and ammunition with the extra money you have after the purchase of the gun itself. I was only pointing out that it isn’t a new concept, and I’ve certainly been able to make an even cheaper Precision bag gun myself with a Ruger American, with an MDT chassis, but I can’t speak to its weight in particular. I’m not sure how much difference it makes to most people, a pound or half a pound, when the system is purpose built to be carried in a bag. Overall length in its shortest configuration I would think is the most important part. I don’t mean to diminish The Cross at all. I think it’s excellent. Just that the concept of a precision bag gun has been possible since before the Cross existed.
Everyone reviews the 6.5 CM Sig Cross and I would just like to thank you for doing the 308. I liked the Sig Cross but your review on it has me sold! Thanks!
The Federal 168 SMK have been my go-to for .308 for over a decade. They stack in all my .308 platforms
SMK is match not a hunting bullet, right?
@@seanmccay6448 Yes, Sierra King bullets. That being said, a bullet does what a bullet does and you can still drop a soft target with a match bullet just becomes more about shot placement.
@seanmccay6448 it's a target bullet but iv seen target bullets work better then "hunting" bullets
@@seanmccay6448
You don't need witchcraft powered expansion with razor petal voodoo sliceamajigs if you if aim for the heart lung shot and can nail nearly every time. Aiming for the heart even a close miss with target rounds, even without much deformation will most likely do the job humainly.
The SMK is a fine bullet. You will search long and hard to beat it. If you can. ;
Never thought I would like my SIG Cross as much as I do.
I use it for everything. I wish SIG would release their barrel extensions so I could get a carbon wrapped barrel.
They did, Proof has been working on them, they just released their prefits today!
The idea of a highly mobile, bolt gun capable of shooting out to 1k with ease is why I got the Sig cross. It is surprisingly capable.
Yea you’ve never shot out to 1k
@@mckrokstrom your mom has
My amended statement: I highly doubted that this rifle would be consistent at that range. Sig makes great machine gun barrels, but they are relatively new to the precision game. Additionally. I wasn't sure if the the shorter barrel would sufficiently stabilize the round. However, after watching this video, and a few others, it's clear that this rifle certainly has the capacity to perform well; with proper natural alignment, trigger discipline, and dope.
It's unlikely that I'll have the opportunity for 1K yard shots, as the southern Indiana terrain dictates otherwise, but there are plenty of 600 yard shots along powerline pathways and our ever-diminishing array of cornfields (perhaps a tad more range in the larger fields). I'm mostly looking at getting longer shots on coyotes, and an occasional deer (only on private property in the Hoosier).
I kind of consider this the perfect scout rifle, with better long range performance than you'll find on most scout rifles. Ostensibly, I could mount a holographic sight on it, iron sights, or just go with a traditional scope set-up; if so desired. I believe old Col Cooper would approve.
I am placing my order today for a 308 model. Also notable, Straight Jacket Armory carries prefit barrels for this rifle, if one feels the need to improve the performance even more, or change the chambering.
@@brentgrubbs8146 match grade ammo and good dope. Hitting 1k all day.
@@6Dasher you’re not competing with a sig cross. Anyone can hit 1000m. A diamondback tactical on a Ruger American in 6.5Cr can hit 1000m. That doesn’t mean it’s GOOD. The cross is ass.
Loving that I'm seeing these videos keep popping up in my feed.
Sig Cross was my first Bolt Action, in .308 . Probably my favorite gun still .
Appreciate the Zoom Out at the end to really show how far 950yards is.
Best carry gun
Lmao
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@@Biffo1262 chill out steve...
Quickscoping irl finna go crazy😂
Mike Lilly from the RUclips channel, Long Range with the Lillys just took a stock Sig Cross to the March NRL Hunter match and took 2nd with it. That rifle is definitely capable in any condition
I’ve been buying up that 168 for YEARS. My 308 loves it
I NEED THIS IN .308! A guy I hunt with got one last year. Shoots lights out! And since it has a 16” barrel, even with a suppressor it’s a manageable length.
It's a great gun to strap onto a backpack for a hunt. I've noticed my local gun shops have sold more of them to people who want a lightweight gun for a bit of a hike.
My 308 Cross loves Federal Prem 175gr Terminal Ascents. They aren't cheap but they have always been a phenomenal hunting round. Though, Barnes makes a 175gr target/match shank/bullet that has the same BC which is a great option to use in conjunction with the term ascent. If you reload, of course, you can use the Barnes for practice and then the Term Ascent for hunting and they shoot very very similar and have identical real world drop. At least this is what I discovered after 440 rounds through my 308 Cross. Hopefully, my babbling helps someone!
One of the best out of the box factory rifle is AI AX. Yeah it cost an arm,but not only does it have one solid action, bonded to the chassis, it also has a folding stock over the bolt, and the quick barrel change. That last feature just smoked every other "covert" sniper on market. When the AI AX is folded and barrel removed its only 45cm / 17inch in total size. Verty few bolt actions can come close to this concealability. Even teh Remingston MSR can't do it because of non-quick barrel change. Best of all its like practically holding zero even after barrel install/uninstall.
Nice video, a comparison with same rifle in 6.5 cm would be interesting. Much better watching when you start out with a freshly painted target.
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Got my cross in 6.5, it goes to 800/900 meters all day. Love the lower recoil of the 6.5, you can shoot all day without that slight bruise on your shoulder from the .308.
I got my Cross in .308 because it’s easier to get here in Honolulu and a bit less expensive than 6.5 CM
@@J.Young808 The barrel life in the 308 is going to be a lot better. 6.5 isn't worth it as a cartridge unless you are trying to only target shoot. Less recoil at the expense of less energy and smaller wound cavities.
Those were some nice shots on the smaller gong at 550.👍🏾
Where was this video when I was trying to decide on the sig cross a year ago. Bought one and extremely happy
I used the Hornady 168 gr SSTs this deer season and they worked out great. I was getting just under 1 MOA at 100 with em. Bagged 2 this year at about 75 yards
Hell at 75ys you can use anything but 22lr 😅
It looks like the Ruger precision 22lr. If you didn't know it was a 308 , I would have never guessed. Very nice , wow that's some long range shooting !
I mean I think you are trying to say it looks like the ruger RPR in 308 which came before the ruger precision 22lr.
Aside from action and magazine size
thanks for taking the time
Looks like a decent little scout/hunting/DMR platform, and Sig is quality too
Found I wasted a lot of time with the Savage 110 tactical I had years ago testing different loads outside of 168gr. Dome pieced every doe I ever shot with it between 50-300 yards. Outside of 168gr noslers…it was iffy for dome shots out at 300+. 168s of local loaded 168 ballistic tips, Hormady BTHP, and Winchester silver tips….all performed very well from that pre accutrigger bull barrel rifle. Head shots became my challenge and I could watch impacts with how well that gun was tuned to the big tasco on it. Preserve meat and guarantee quick kill.
Very interesting. Good shooting! I really enjoyed this.
God bless all here.
Love my 308 Cross 👍🇨🇦👍 Nice shooting !!
It will hit
I was surprised how well my 6.5 Cross shoots
Fun as hell too !
1/2MOA with a factory rifle and factory ammo, is not too shabby!
still blows my mind how people still judge accuracy off 3 round groups
I Have 2 Sig Crosses In .308 & Also 2 Q-Fixes In 8.6 Blackout. Both Foldable For Backpacks. To Each Their Own However I Have Always Preferred Bolt Firearms To Gas Largely In Part Of Maximum Accuracy & Extremely Easy Clean Up/Servicing. The .308’s Give Me 1200 Any Given Day. However 800-900 Yards For The Bigger 8.6 Blackout. My MK-21 & MK-22 Bolts Get Me 1760 (1) Mile & Change Consistently. Sig Cross Is Sweet For Its Purpose As Well As The 8.6 Blackout For Lightweight In Backpacks Do All Rifles. I Use Only BANISH & CGS SUPPRESSORS Because Of Quality & Sound.
Great video! The 16” (308/6.5cm) Christensen Arms MPR is sweet rig that fits this category.
never thought about the idea of weighing a gun by weighing yourself with and without it, thats funny. always enjoyed the more sleek style bolt guns like the cross and seekins havak.
hahaha, not sure how accurate it is but hey it's something for reference ;D
Thanks for showing some ammo performance. I'm having to try and figure out what mine likes best. Hornady ELD-x 178gr was BAD for some reason. Tried some 170gr Norma TipStrike and those were better 1-1.5" groups at 100. Would like to find better though. I just want to be able to confidently hunt big game out to 400yds. Don't feel like I'm quite there yet.
Recommend trying Federal 165g Trophy Bonded Tip.
I’m able to get consistent 0.5 MOA with my Sig Cross 308.
This is a fantastic hunting bullet for medium to big games.
My Sig Cross 308 love Terminal Ascent. Have you figured out what works best for you yet?
That color looks nice on you
I've been looking at purchasing a Sig Cross for hunting. I've been debating whether to get it in the shorter, lighter .308 or the longer barreled 6.5 Creedmoor, I'm leaning towards 308 just so I don't have to add another caliber to stock up on.
Eventually, other barrels will be available to change the caliber. Dunno when… maybe years? Maybe never… damn you Sig!
They're out now for about 500 which isn't bad really!
Please do another accuracy video with the 168 or even try 150s!!
Awesome video
Great review.
I’ve got an AIWB holster for mine.
I have one of these in a 24" heavier weight prs style...
Am i abdolutely nuts for wanting this lightweight version with a lower power scope as well for a carry rifle?
Id really like something different, cause the collection gets boring if its too much of the same... but i really enjoy this thing way too flipping much. I feel the light weight would just enhance my enjoyment.
Good shooting, very nice rifle, thanks
if this rifle was offered in a left-handed version. I wouldn't hesitate to buy one.
Love mine! 16" .308. Would love to go shoot there, I've only shot mine at 400
Very cool. Thanks 👍
My sig cross loves 143eldx in 6.5 I was shocked it shoots sub half moa groups all day and was boring out to 1200 yards
Exactly
Same load for me ,very accurate little gun
Hi technical weapons is big fan
168’s do in fact change the game😅 I audibly laughed when you said you were surprised that target didn’t die and then it died on the next shot🤣🤣
Wish they made a 20” barrel version.
Agree; I have the same rifle as a hunting setup but would like a longer barrel for precision setup. Almost got ruger precision but damn its heavy compared to cross
they do now. its the cross STX. lil heavier at 7.7 lbs. also has full length pic rail.
I personally like the 168 hp for 308 it shoots great everywhere
Nice range and gun!
Very helpful video!
Great video! Good shooting! Keep it up 👍
Are you using a 20 MOA rail or rings? Also do you have the rev stop zero stop installed in the scope while recording this? Thanks
I would definitely spend $1,200 on this rifle.
Definitely should do a comparison with fix, same set up as you running 8.9 pounds
Sweet video. I've been on the fence about the cross. But this might have reaffirmed my decision to buy one. Good shooting Tex!
I love mine. Fantastic hunting rifle. Doesn't compete against high-end stuff and doesn't match any custom built guns. But anything out to 600yds, I can hit.
id love to see a review on am AllTerra Arms rifle
Be interesting to do a direct comparison to the Q Fix
My local store has both this and the Q minifix. The q is very flimsy in comparison, feels like it was made out of bent up mailbox metal, totally not worth the price. If Sig made an SBR 300 BLK version there would be no reason to even look at the q
@@wiseguy724 Q is extremely expensive too. The mini fix is pretty damn cool but still very expensive. We have some people that go to our local ranges that hunt with the mini fix close range for hogs suppressed
The SIG Cross is great except for ONE THING. That stupid single stack magazine!
As a general rule, I don't buy rifles with single stack mags which need to be front loaded.
They should have designed it to take SR25/LR308 mags -- particularly the Magpul PMAGs.
Not only would loading be much easier, you will also be able to get 10, 20, 25 mags for it.
Going to have to take a trip to Texas for the steel ranges
Nice video
Great shooting. I'd love to see her run the 168s out at distance
Also fits in a grey ghost gear SBR pack
Hello from Europe, good video as always
Did you ever tried the Blaser R8 ?
Its a high end hunting with very good accuracy and quick change barrell and scope mount system without losing zero
Great vid, you’re one hell of a shot.
I’m thinking of building a short light 308 build. Probably get the XLR Magnesium chassis as a start, may SBR it but am currently shopping for a 16 inch barrel, maybe flat with deep flutes so that I have enough shoulder for my suppressor. What action and barrel maker do you think gives the most bang for the Buck? I’ll probably put a 3-15 of some sort on it. Thinking of 600 and on.
Thank you for your input.
Good stuff.
I have that same gun and scope but w/ a DEAD AIR TI suppressor. I am yet to shoot those ranges but nice to see it being done. What model bi pod are you using? Thanks
Why does no one do the 277 fury version
Laughed out loud when you knocked down the plate at 11:50
Nice shooting. I want one of these. Side note: your comment section is fucking strange
It’s pretty ordinary for the “tube”. People seem pretty chilled, polite and respectful. It’s a nice change from the usual political/religious/class/race bull that has contaminated most online platforms.
_AirMarshall 🎩_
Very nice.👍
Amazing vapor trail on that video feed. Could you explain the setup you used to record?
Nikon p1000
Try some prime match ammo, I chronographed 20 rds through my rem 700 aacsd and had a standard diviation of only 16fps, hard to get that close even with hand loads.
I want this gun so bad BUT they don’t offer a LH model and I’m a lefty….
Loved this! Was going to build something similar out of a Tikka but ended up ditching the project, maybe on day I will pick one of these up! I know there's lots of opinions out there on them but for any ranges I have access to, you just proved its more than capable.
They shoot well but I don’t like the idea of supporting a company that beta tests on its consumers. The many massive safety recalls sig issues is a problem for me. The first run of these things would go off if you shook them too hard.
Coming from a cross owner, it is 100% worth it
@@brettorton2363 Yeah I can imagine! I handled one at Cabelas once and it was great, my favourite thing is having a stock that folds over the bolt instead of making it triple wide
this is amazing. ive been looking for a rifle thatd be compact and easy to carry w the rest of my hunting equipment when i go hunting later this year
Really you like your long rain shooting
The New 6.5 loves 140gn and heavier.. Took a liking to the Hornady Precision Hunter 143gn ELDX.. Hope this helps anyone..
Very cool 👍
SO i am here to request that you shoot air guns also. my AEA CHALLENGER PRO.30CAL is about the same weight and folds up and you can stick it in a backpack. and has accuratly been shot at over 400 yards. my element max 51cal only weighs 5.2 lb without scope and bi-pod and is shorter and well the roundball is 182grain and that is its lightest projectile. but say on projectiles i use a .284dia hornedy super shock 162grain that wont expand at under 1300fps and a .30cal air gun wont shoot faster than that anyway so basically the projectile wont expand and becomes basically slow armor peircing . i have shot through a couple steel house doors and the round came out pretty enough to put right back into the air rifle and shoot again...
advantages with air guns , less recoil, no muzzle flash ever, and you can take more rounds with you cause no brass or powder needed...
my challenger pro folds down into a 26inch length and the element max about the same (course the hp ss max folds down to 20 inches. and weighs 4.8lb without accessories and comes in calibers from .30 upto .495(.50cal)
and if you fold it to 20 inches you can stuff it just about anywhere. and it has a couple mags with any caliber.
just trying to open your mind to different possibilities.
Cool rifle. Is it offered in 277 Fury?
Supposed to be. But I've yet to see one in the wild.
@@HeronMarkedBlade-ef7zz same
Straight Jacket Armory makes profit barrels for it in the 277 fury as well as others, just got mine installed and it’s grouping .5 moa
Welp time to get a bolt action.
Read fry the brain too
@@mrs.vasquezz I agree!
Sweet!
Texan hugh jackman?
Was it hard to shoot accurately since it’s so light?
Nice gun!
Spear vs cross .308 suggests on purchase?
I recently purchased this exact firearm for our deer/predator rifle. My plans are to swap out the 6.5cm barrel and replace it with a 18" 22cm. Here in SD we are limited to a .22 caliber projectile when using thermals, but its also a legal round for deer and antelope. It could be the perfect lightweight laser beam to cover all my deer sized game on down.
It may be because it is intended as a hunting rifle? I know my fathers dirt cheap Remington 783 would shoot just sub moa with 168gr....maybe the rifling doesn't prefer the heavy 175gr?
Me too, but with the old 788 in .243.
It's a 1:10 barrel that's been the standard for decades, predating the 783. The 175 is a whole 7 grains heavier and a few thousandths longer than a 168. Guns are picky about what they like. The 175 load could have had less consistent velocity affecting the groups for all we know. Too many factors at play to make a generalization with limited information.
Bonjour comment s'appelle la pièce avec bouton poussoir pour faire basculer la crosse en position déplier ? Merci
Ok, show us performance at 1000yards.
Would the 6.5 kick less?
Is the property you shoot on yours?
What velocities are you gettin out of this gun?
If shtf i feel like i woudl rather have this combo with a pistol rather than an ar15
I am getting a Sig Cross Trax soon. I could ruck this, and my 300 Blackout pistol and still be about the same weight as my AKM.
Nice what be price on that complete setup?
Compact rifle with accuracy and range is what's coming. Trick is low recoil , projectile and the 11pound weight Max.
I'm with you but would like to see a falcon strike recoil pad, monolithic copper low powder super long hybrid flat flight projectile, accuracy international mag and star ball HD added to a compact system.
Effective compact system for dense bush and urban inviroment with a long reach if required when autos are taken ,is the future.
Thank mate.
Andrew Nz
That gun likes the 168gr, what's the twist rate?
The sig website says 1:10. It should handle 200+ gr bullets just fine, because 1:10 .308's have been handling 200+ gr bullets for decades.
What ballistic app are you using?
What camera do you use on those targets at 950 yards??!!
Nikon p1000
@@TexasPlinking what size lens makes it zoom out that far?
Nice rifle, but way too expensive...