Why the Android Saga is Peak

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  • Опубликовано: 10 дек 2024
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  • @LILREMAlNS
    @LILREMAlNS 10 часов назад +1

    perfect vid, the only thing perfect cell wouldn't approve of is the imperfect audio.

  • @BaldGuyElectric20245
    @BaldGuyElectric20245 5 дней назад +3

    Truly the greatest part of DBZ. Trunks, the action, character growth etc. I just love the whole feel of the cell saga, it was the height of my expereince in DBZ.
    You did an awesome job explaining why this saga rocks. I really enjoy the music in the background too, its very fitting.

  • @ابوجدوع-ق6ث
    @ابوجدوع-ق6ث 7 дней назад +1

    I remembered the first time I watched this saga while watching this video and it just gave me that beautiful nostalgic feeling,it reminds me how sad I felt for 16's death and that beautiful ost that was playing during that scene,I really love this arc so much so when I feel I want to rewatch dragon ball I end up just rewatching this arc and it'll always have a special place in my heart
    Great video waiting for the buu saga video

  • @creativename2567
    @creativename2567 День назад +3

    "Look at my perfect saga. It's perfect."
    -Cell

    • @melodyllama_4988
      @melodyllama_4988  День назад

      @@creativename2567 I was waiting for this comment! 🤣

  • @MarianaBello-fq3hx
    @MarianaBello-fq3hx 8 дней назад +18

    I still think Frieza saga is the best. The final fight vs Frieza is far better than Gohan vs Cell.

    • @melodyllama_4988
      @melodyllama_4988  8 дней назад +1

      @@MarianaBello-fq3hx valid. I just don’t like Zenkai boosts but other than that, it’s so damn good

    • @dragonflyjones5023
      @dragonflyjones5023 8 дней назад +5

      Everything leading up to Goku facing down Frieza is legendary. Not only did he avenge the Saiyan Prince and his entire race from a galactic threat, he became the legend itself.

    • @MourningCoffeeMusic
      @MourningCoffeeMusic 6 дней назад +4

      Goku vs Frieza is better than Gohan vs Cell, but the Android/Cell saga completely clowns on the Namek saga (like Trunks clowned on Frieza).

    • @melodyllama_4988
      @melodyllama_4988  6 дней назад

      @@MourningCoffeeMusic valid take

    • @Gilbert_Dice_Gottfried
      @Gilbert_Dice_Gottfried 5 дней назад +1

      I disagree because Gohan turning super saiyan 2 felt like a great twist on a typical coming of age moment. Goku turning super saiyan was built up and character significant but Gohan turning super saiyan 2 was much more complicated and dark because of how gohan’s rage turned into sadism against cell. It shows how unstable a transformation like that could make a person, much more than when Goku turned super saiyan. Also I really like goku’s fight against cell and many of the other android saga fights. The namek fights are incredible too but I just think the two sagas are too different to compare. It’s almost like the android saga inverted (or subverted IDK) a lot of elements from the namek saga.

  • @welchrebooted4739
    @welchrebooted4739 2 дня назад +1

    this felt like the last time where most of the z fighters contributed anything to the plot tbh. Tien had that moment against semi perfect cell; Krillin actually got to do some damage to imperfect cell and did destroy Gero's lab and had that wish with 17 and 18; Piccolo got close to taking out Gero, Imperfect Cell, and 17 but was interupted last minute all 3 times; Future trunks had the best 1st and lasting impression in z; Vegeta had 2 big wins and helped save the day in the end; Gohan was the hero in the end; and even Yamcha was important in locating the 1st 2 androids, reveal their absorbing ability, rush Goku to Kame-House, and give him the Heart Virus medication. Honestly, Goku is hardly in this arc given he is either on Yadrat, having the Heart Virus, or is Unalive and only gets 2 fights in the arc both of which are loses though he does have a heroic end to his character with me wishing his story ended there.

  • @NowWeJustWinIt
    @NowWeJustWinIt 4 дня назад

    Haven't finished yet, but I'm just going to leave a comment for some traction since I just noticed those 400 something subs jesus you deserve way more

  • @Nick2quickOfficial
    @Nick2quickOfficial 8 дней назад +1

    Great video my guy, the Andriod Saga is my favorite. I feel like its the last time in the series where hen its your first time watching, you don't really know how things are going to turn it, A lot of twist and turns.

    • @melodyllama_4988
      @melodyllama_4988  8 дней назад +1

      @@Nick2quickOfficial too good, we don’t deserve it! 😭🤣

  • @LOMBE.Z
    @LOMBE.Z 8 дней назад +1

    i agree especially seeing Gohan go from a side character to the hero

    • @melodyllama_4988
      @melodyllama_4988  8 дней назад

      @@LOMBE.Z wish it would’ve stayed that way 😔🤣

  • @darrellpruitt6557
    @darrellpruitt6557 6 дней назад +5

    Yo bro I just want you to know I watched this video with my phone in my pocket the whole time so I would’ve never suspected you to only have a couple hundred subscribers and a handful of likes . Cuz this is a high quality ass video W music W mic and W analysis you didn’t just bullshit ur way through actually breaking down characters and analyzing character decisions/writing choices which we love along with a GOOD BALANCE of characters passion and opinion. You’re gonna go up fasho bro stay at it ‼️

  • @Premethedream__
    @Premethedream__ 7 дней назад

    Never clicked a vid so fast I love this arc

  • @stretch3744
    @stretch3744 5 дней назад +1

    Very good vid man I love the cell saga. Personally the frieza saga is my favorite but cell is right there along w saiyan saga. Also btw vegeta in the rain happens after he loses to android 18, not before his fight w 19

    • @melodyllama_4988
      @melodyllama_4988  5 дней назад

      @@stretch3744 understandable response after that ass whooping he got 😭

  • @dragonflyjones5023
    @dragonflyjones5023 7 дней назад +2

    Zenkai boosts still exist its just the characters that used them are now insanely strong. Perfect Cell got a 2 zenkai boosts remember?

    • @melodyllama_4988
      @melodyllama_4988  7 дней назад

      @@dragonflyjones5023 I brought it up. They are infinitely less important to the story here though. Also strength has no bearing on how good or how bad a Zenkai is

  • @Chilick
    @Chilick 4 дня назад +1

    Saying yamcha did the least when chaotzu is STANDING RIGHT THERE

    • @melodyllama_4988
      @melodyllama_4988  4 дня назад +1

      @@Chilick he’s so useless I ain’t even count him 🤣

    • @Chilick
      @Chilick 4 дня назад

      @ 😂😂😂

  • @JoshuaLowe-ci3wo
    @JoshuaLowe-ci3wo 3 дня назад

    Cell was the best villain because he was smart, cunning, manipulative, powerful, ruthless & menacing. Most if all nobody saw him coming. He was an unknown threat. Future Trunks didn't even know about Cell until he discovered that 2nd time machine & heard about Cell from Piccolo fused with kami. Future Trunks only said that "two androids" were coming, with them being 17 & 18.

    • @melodyllama_4988
      @melodyllama_4988  3 дня назад

      @@JoshuaLowe-ci3wo his intro as imperfect cell was so clean too 😫

  • @angeldelgado7120
    @angeldelgado7120 5 дней назад +1

    A script would help organize your thoughts and make the video flow better.

    • @melodyllama_4988
      @melodyllama_4988  5 дней назад

      @@angeldelgado7120 my ultimate struggle 😭. I feel like I sound so robotic when I use one lol. Rn I just use the bullet point method lol

  • @anthonycourt7977
    @anthonycourt7977 7 дней назад +2

    Piccolo could have defeated android 19 & 20

  • @MajinJavy
    @MajinJavy 3 дня назад +4

    Greatest arc in anime history is crazy ngl I can name 5 better than Cell saga

    • @melodyllama_4988
      @melodyllama_4988  3 дня назад

      @@MajinJavy DB is the goat of all anime and Cell Saga is my favorite so yeah. This is also based on anime I’ve seen mind you. Two greats I haven’t seen are AoT or One Piece

    • @MajinJavy
      @MajinJavy 3 дня назад +2

      @ I understand that take and this is still a great video, I’m just saying there’s even more peak out there to be discovered lol. AoT has some of the greatest writing out there but if that’s not ur cup of tea there’s HxH’s chimera ant arc.

  • @Jonathan-eu7gx
    @Jonathan-eu7gx 8 дней назад +1

    Great video!!!!

  • @dogma06
    @dogma06 3 дня назад +1

    This arc has many good elements, but it definetly has massive flaws:
    - Goku trains 3 years with his son and still doesnt get to know him, and still would lose to 17 and 18, but after just 1 year in hyperbolic timechamber, he teaches gohan super saiyan and then they both perfect it
    - piccolo has similiar problem, because he goes from 2nd frieza to android 20 in the same span, but later gets no role in story despite using hyperbolic time chamber
    - trunks sees android 18, but does not get rid of her, despite beign both stronger and hating androids?
    They are just so many nitpicks that makes the story feel all over the place.

    • @melodyllama_4988
      @melodyllama_4988  3 дня назад

      @@dogma06 well for the first two, I believe the chamber had different gravity so it aided in their training. Also I don’t see anything too wrong with either of those. You can try something for a couple of years (say drawing) and then really improve in a single year in comparison to the others. The Trunks one is pretty funny though, I would’ve annihilated 18 then and there 🤣

    • @dogma06
      @dogma06 2 дня назад

      @ the diffrent gravity is anime only thing, but i get the point. It just sheer amount of those small issue helds this saga for me (especially since i read manga mostly, where pace is really fast and fights are short). Like how can gero build such powerful androids in the first place? Or why didnt gero built himself with infinite power source like rest of androids? What will cell do after destroying earth (before gaining instant transmision as a fast way to move around)? Why did nobody told trunks whereabouts of new namek so he could revive his friends?
      So for me this saga has good characterization, good highlights, but terrible pacing, doesnt explore a lot of topics (16, 17 and 18 dont do much as you mention), and cell is great, but feels generic in comparison to other standout villains

  • @max.thecarno
    @max.thecarno День назад +1

    You have only seen Z and Super, if you wachted og first then you would reconize radits is the most shocking

    • @melodyllama_4988
      @melodyllama_4988  День назад

      @@max.thecarno I watched OG DB after Z so it probable had a different effect on me lol

  • @usuario15965
    @usuario15965 7 дней назад +1

    A thing i dont like is goku being off the battlefield for the entire meat of the saga,went from the tutorial fight straight to the final boss,i still dont like how Trunks's mission was to save goku so he could defeat the androids just to not meet them at any moment,and also how trunks did NOTHING after killed freeza and he warned the z warriors,he might have developed vegeta a bit but for a character of that magnitude i thought he would have been a lot more relevant,the story after gokus heart decease was moved only by piccolo and vegeta from the z warriors and the androids and cell
    (And also this might be nitpicking but i also think 20 should have fought goku and 19 vegeta because the beef goku had was with 20 only,and 19 fighting both just feels like a little too much,also i agree 16 not doing anything relevant other than dying for any other of the z fighters so gohan gets angry did made him pointless,i like him at all but hes fight with cell wasnt memorable and he didnt fight goku,wich woukd have made a nice trio of z warriors vs the android trio,toriyama really slept on what he could do with this character.)

    • @melodyllama_4988
      @melodyllama_4988  7 дней назад

      @@usuario15965 these are all valid points man! I fucking adore this arc but there are some things that I wouldn’t exactly call “cons” but more like missed opportunities. Goku being out for so long is unfortunate and I didn’t even think about him fighting Gero. That would’ve been really cool. I love Cell but it did seem like he hogged the arc and by the end, completely took over, even though he is incredible

  • @dylanthomas385
    @dylanthomas385 4 дня назад

    It’s good but there are some gaping plot hose no talks about mainly tein he could have easily busted out the neo trie beem he could have beaten the androids and imperfect cell and had golden opportunities to do so when they where beating the crap out of vegeta and piccolo secondly goku refusing to go help picloo the combined might of him tien and sixteen could have beaten seim perfect sell

  • @ThatDudeCurtis6
    @ThatDudeCurtis6 8 дней назад +2

    imagine calling one of the worst arcs in the entire series peak.

    • @melodyllama_4988
      @melodyllama_4988  8 дней назад +3

      @@ThatDudeCurtis6 genuinely curious to hear why you feel that way 🤔

    • @geoffknight2489
      @geoffknight2489 8 дней назад +2

      lmao this goon probably likes super
      changing colours makes them stwonger

    • @ThatDudeCurtis6
      @ThatDudeCurtis6 8 дней назад

      ​@@melodyllama_4988 poorly written and meandering. Everyone is written out of character, and as a whole it is an inconsistent mess. It is the line of demarcation for the downward spiral of Dragon Ball as a series.

    • @melodyllama_4988
      @melodyllama_4988  8 дней назад

      @ who do you feel was written out of character?

    • @ThatDudeCurtis6
      @ThatDudeCurtis6 8 дней назад +1

      @@melodyllama_4988 There are multiple examples, but you can start with the start of the arc were everyone just goes a long with the plan to do nothing about the Androids a head of time.
      Only for the arc to essentially be reset later (Trunks' return), and now the characters wanting to be proactive to stop 17 and 18 from being activated.
      Let me ask you a few questions, how old were you when you first saw or read this arc? (I find Americans who saw it young, tend to favor it)
      Had you read/seen the entirety of Dragon Ball up to that point? And how much Anime have you seen to declare THIS of all things the greatest arc? Thanks