This is a major reason why Christianity is having a resurgence; there’s little to no genuine accountability in this world… ‘through the glass darkly’, human justice will be imperfect at the best of times… at this critical juncture there will be many people, like Ana Kasparian, shrewdly shifting their allegiance- none of us can truly know their hearts; a combination of pragmatism and a hopeful, sceptical, humility to give them the benefit of the doubt without giving them enough power to undermine the work that needs to be done, is the best we can do, hope for.
I think that, rather naively, even foolishly, he actually trusted the Tories to fix it. I made the same mistake, left the Tories and joined and voted for Reform earlier this ear. All that written, I have doubts that even Reform will do the necessary to save this country - but it would, at the least, do less harm than any other current potential government. 👍
@@ginojaco It is the same for Man United....They are desperate to get back to the good old days and a change in management has not served them well....Same with the Tories....They changed management but still the same results....Labour are in because.....they can´t be worse.... but let´s see in a years time how the economy is shaping up....
@@El.Cid71Labour won with half a million less votes than the previous they got at the previous election, therefore even less people wanted them in power than did before. Just demonstrates that the system allows even the less popular parties to gain power, which is plain stupid. Labour have lost even more votes since and continue on to self destruction while doing their damn best to take the country to oblivion along with them.
Labour and Tories are a bickering couple that have neglected their responsibilities that is the public. We need a change from these stale and divisive parties who break their promises. We need to give a different party a chance to run the country. Reform hasn’t betrayed the public so we may as well get them in. 👍
Time to dump Revert and wait for Tommy to put a team together. Farage despises the British working class, despite the C1/C2 class being 64% of his vote, that's "that lot" to use Tice's phrase.
.... to the middle again, with a load more Tory nest featherer defectors helping them there? Screwing the British working classes all over again. Farage despises the C1/C2 vote, despite it making up 64% of his support. Tommy's out in 6 months time now.
We need a GENUINE moderate Right wing main party in UK. The Tories are just a slightly more moderate Left wing party compared to Labour. Two cheeks from the same arse.
@@El.Cid71considering that reform was created in 2018 and labour was 1990 the conservative was 1834 seems like both party's have been in government for a very long time and have the majority of seats reform is 6 year old and is only been gaining ground into government with more seats give it some time and you'll see reform gain more and more and labour and the conservatives will lose more and more.
It was Blair who kicked off the immigration problem. The Tories just ran with it and sadly failed the British people with Brexit. I also blame Labour for the Brexit failure. Once the British people voted for it, both parties should have worked together to make it happen. Unfortunately, Labour chose instead to do everything they could to sabotage it.
True. Take back control of borders etc. The losers trying to prevent it's implementation are the problem. Not those who expressed a clear democratic expression. The only time people got a say in their country's future and fools and tools try immediately to sabotage it. It's very sad and makes people angry .
@@tomwil1593 that’s not going to change anything until the next GE unfortunately! Some people think Local Elections results are going to change this appalling Governments cruel decisions or stupid anti Business policies! It will have absolutely no effect
They are the tories, farage was a tory. If Reform do get it in, which is actually highly likely at this point then it's still the same two party system with the wool pulled over your eyes once again.
Id have thought a bit of humility would be in order after a massive labour landslide win but alas the tears still flow from the right and reality still hasn’t hit 😂😂😂
100% it's the shadow issue of the uk, bolstered further by immigration. It's ironic in every sense of the word that Labour and the rest of the left don't see it as a problem when they have the ideologies they do, persecuting women, homosexuals, apostates etc, their rates of arranged marriage, child marriage and polygamy, grooming gangs and people trafficking, their rates of domestic abuse and their disproportionate crime rates. It's a cult disguised as a religion (follows a man not a god, and a war mongerer at that). Why are they protecting these people? Have any of these leftists actually read the quran to see how anti non Muslim that book really is? And now they want protections against criticism? I
@TruthHurts-s7g I know it is hard, but there is a stigma on the MSM, in Parliament, in public, in church, to talk about Islam. What I think Nigel should do is reverse that stigma. Make it a stigma to stop anyone talking about the real horrors of Islam and what islamification really means to our culture, values, and principles. They will all be plundered for the sake of sharia. Nigel is absent without leave. He has become the stigmatis'er, those who follow will continue to act as he has begun to act. He never used to be. He was a pioneer in the EU. Now he has become an Andrew Neil wannabe tv presenter with Islamic indoctrinated stigma dripping off him like a packet of sausages under the grill. One last thing. why aren't all the Western and Islamic leaders saying. BRING BACK THE HOSTAGES OR THERE WILL BE HELL TO PAY. We know why the muslim leaders don't. I hope you and almost everyone else starts listening.
@MarkAdams-os8is We can say the things we need to say in a non defamatory way. As we must do in any debate. We are talking about islam, an ideology, a set of ideas. First, we highlight that there is no historical evidence for the claims muslims make about mhmnd. The issue is not that we need to convince muslims about how ridiculous their claims in the hadith are, but we need to convince everyone else, and by that means, stigmatise islam for the horror it has brought to the West by radical muslims who are compelled to live upon different principles and values according to islam. The conflict is made even amongst muslims, but even more so when culture, values, and principles of life and governance collide. Let us just change the conversation and be done with defending the most ridiculous false religion of all the false religions.
I get the point but I think you are missing the bigger picture. Why is Lee Anderson so hated in westminster and called 30p Lee? He rejected them. Twice. Both versions. Red and Blue. They hate that rejection. It riles them up like you wouldnt believe. Sorry - defectors have a role to play. Yes dominate the party with fresh talent but you need to kick bricks out of the wall too.
Need a referendum on the voting system to the pr system make it happen bring it on need a referendum on leaving the echr scrap all foreign aid charity begins at home depot all illegal immigrants send them all back
The whole system needs changing, real job before you become an MP and then two terms maximum. This guys has been in and around the government for a long time. No idea how most people have to live or how the real world works!
Respectfully, "thinking Brits" see that Revert's non deportation and net zero immigration policies do nothing against the biggest threat to this nation since the little Austrian corporal - the inexorable march of 1sl4m. Especially with an allegedly "non practising" one of them as Chair of a party still owned by two people.
Big difference Reform can and will win in hard core liebour constituencies Consocialists will never win in hardcore Liebour constituencies Reform party are the future 👍🇬🇧🇬🇧
He was a conservative for 30yrs.you saw the mess they got us into.if you saw this happening for 14 yrs how come you leave this toxic marriage..now...🤔🤔🤔🤔.
The swamp is just changing teams. It won't be long before they are a majority in Reform, and start demanding the same things they always wanted in the Tories etc. We need accountability, not a rebranding.
Never going to happen. Revert remains a majority owned party in the hands of one man with a bad history of falling out with, or doing down, people who threaten to overshadow him. Oh, and Tice but dim owns a few shares, but waits to be told what to say, think and do by HMV.
I am increasingly convinced that the Conservative Party has reached its end. My belief has solidified further following their decision to elect Kemi Badenoch as their leader, rather than opting for Robert Jenrick-a politician who had a clear stance on exiting the European Convention on Human Rights (ECHR). This choice reflects a significant shift in the party's direction, one that I believe will alienate many of its core supporters. As time goes on, I anticipate that a growing number of individuals will become disillusioned with the Conservative Party and choose to align themselves with the Reform Party instead. The political landscape is evolving rapidly, and this trend may very well signal a larger movement away from traditional Conservative values towards a more reformist agenda.
Saw the writing on the wall... power-hungry... so jumps on the only remaining floating boat instead of going down with the one he helped sink. Politics!
Well Done Tim and Guess What GB News there will be more members to Reform UK and people will carry on voting for them either so they will not win the next election next year.
Its funny how all the Right-wingers have suddenly realised that PR is the way to go as soon as the Rightie vote was split - when it was the LibDems / SNP / Labour splitting the left-wing vote, that was just fine. Sadly for you, we had a Referendum in 2011 about the voting system, and we voted to keep FPTP. As we all know, once a Referendum has been held, the results are binding and can never be changed...😃
@@chrisphillips8365it wasn't a vote on PR tho was it ?....it was a vote on the AV ( alternative vote ) which was an impossible and confusing voting system designed to be so complicated they knew people would never vote for it
I think he would have been a better leader but not sure I would support the Tories.They had 14 yrs to sort out immigration and didn’t have the nerve to do it
That's great let the Tories join reform great idea the people who have destroyed the UK since Thatcher and Regan general Pinochet and Milton Friedman lovely jubley. Let's make the UK great again
Free health care affordable housing a nation to be proud of with people from all around the world living in peace and harmony for the best part pubs to go to things to do we could afford to live. Destroyed this nation for greed and today you can't even tell us what you want.
Racists fascists anti Semitic islamaphobic and we can all see where it comes from now and so can they in Westminster now. You dragged us all back in time just remember we had the biggest empire in recorded history and not many nation states existed you turned the best nation in the world 30 years ago into this today not us.
Just think how amazing these people could make the UK with the power they have and a nation behind them they just don't care in Afraid. Any nation now arguing over health care when we had a great free health care system you don't really need to know anymore and people who want us to live like this.
The more conservatives that join reform, the more alike it'll become to the conservative party which is why people voted reform - because conservatives didn't represent the nation. Sad to see reform moving this way and eventually capitulate to the state where we'll be back to voting between Tory(reform) or labor. 2 sides of the same coin and no change.
@BigFoot02 "Reform isn't divided"? I sincerely hope that's a joke. Ben Habib, co-founder of the party, left because their ideals have shifted so much to try and appeal to the centre-left of politics. Why would farage not commit to deportations in a recent interview if not to try and appear more mainstream? People voted reform because immigration is the number 1 issue in the UK.
So how many MPs do Reform have now? Hopefully more Conservatives will wake up and realise that Reform are the only party who are in touch with the nation.
@uingaeoc3905 Successful parties are coalitions with a breadth of talent - & opinion. Their differences are put aside for the common purpose - winning elections. They are not one man tribute acts that boot out popular and talented people and that will collapse once that one man is no longer leader. Exiling Habib and co was a serious political error - and bloody selfish. There's a lot more at stake than Farage's fragile ego - like the country itself.
At this rate are they Reforming the British Democracy or the Tory party? 33 year Tory veteran establishment advisor to Boris Johnson now part of the new movement? Is Farage still not vetting?
At this rate, the reform will not reform anything; it will only reflect the old attitudes of the "conservative" party. People forget that a party is the expression of its parliamentary body. Deep down, these old conservatives are only going for the reform to save their asses, but they will continue to reflect the old attitudes and beliefs when it comes to actually exercising political power. This aspect of complete commercialization, the materialization of modern politics, is one of the things I most detest. But it will probably be difficult to get out of this system because that is what a democracy does over time. It becomes nothing more than a competition to stay in power at all costs and take advantage of the compulsory public money that goes into their hands.
There's got to be some form of coalition between the Tories and Reform next time as Labour have to be got rid of. Not sure how this would work in practice if the results were similar to this year?
It was certain MPs in the Tories that kept blocking means of stopping cutting down the immigration numbers our MPs will refuse to ditch the ECHR wich is being manipulated distorted to allow millions and millions to leave their own country because their pwn country refuses to care for their needs and head for the UK knowing they will live for free.
what you don't want in reform is old mandarin's from the tory party, you need fresh new people who love this country and are able to take it forward not backwards as a tory revamp, if you don't get your act together now you'll have no chance at the next election.
Any MP or former MP from any political party seeking to join Reform UK should only be considered if they are willing to publicly and unequivocally denounce their former party. This denunciation must take the form of a signed written statement and/or a video, explicitly outlining how their previous party, along with their own actions and support, has contributed to the decline of the UK’s social fabric, economy, and public trust. Such accountability is essential to demonstrate a genuine ideological break with their past affiliations. Particularly and especially, former members of the Conservative Party must confront their unique responsibility in enabling the policies and decisions that have eroded public confidence and undermined the nation's core values. As the party most ideologically proximate to Reform UK, Conservatives pose the greatest risk of entryism-bringing with them the compromises, failures, and political baggage that have diluted true conservative principles. To mitigate this threat, Conservative defectors must provide an unambiguous rejection of their former party's direction, as well as a clear and principled commitment to Reform UK’s values. These measures are not only critical to protecting Reform UK’s ideological integrity but also to ensuring that new members contribute positively to its mission as the UK’s only true conservative voice. They safeguard the party from opportunistic joiners while reinforcing its distinct and uncompromising stance in the political landscape. A final note: The focus on Conservatives rather than other socialist-leaning parties-such as Labour, the Liberal Democrats, or the Greens-is intentional. Members of these parties are ideologically distant from Reform UK, and the likelihood of their defection is minimal. By contrast, disillusioned Conservatives, who often view Reform UK as a natural political home, face a much smaller ideological leap. This proximity increases the risk of entryism, where individuals seek to join Reform UK without fully committing to its principles, potentially diluting the party’s conservative identity. Addressing this risk is vital to preserving the integrity and focus of Reform UK as the only party truly committed to conservative values. Just saying!
The immigration started with Labour and is now out of control. There is no way STARMER will get off his backside and sort out the boats and deportations. He’s only interested in his freebies which by the way he still looks awful.
So a wet liberal Tory joins and we are meant to be happy!! No way will I vote for an ex Tory party ( Reform)when I can think of many patriots that have been kicked from Reform. Because they like Tommy
The state of this guy! I expect he has certain… er… ‘recreational’ hobbies that require some readies. And he’s sniffed out the Musk windfall. Reform is doomed allowing all these chancers in!
Reform are getting some good MPs hope it keeps up.Kemi is ok but don’t think she will do anything to stop the boats she doesn’t seem keen on leaving the ECHR which we need to do
Montgomerie is suddenly shocked by the immigration figures? Where’s he been these last 10 years, the Planet Mars?
This is a major reason why Christianity is having a resurgence; there’s little to no genuine accountability in this world… ‘through the glass darkly’, human justice will be imperfect at the best of times… at this critical juncture there will be many people, like Ana Kasparian, shrewdly shifting their allegiance- none of us can truly know their hearts; a combination of pragmatism and a hopeful, sceptical, humility to give them the benefit of the doubt without giving them enough power to undermine the work that needs to be done, is the best we can do, hope for.
I think that, rather naively, even foolishly, he actually trusted the Tories to fix it. I made the same mistake, left the Tories and joined and voted for Reform earlier this ear. All that written, I have doubts that even Reform will do the necessary to save this country - but it would, at the least, do less harm than any other current potential government. 👍
Not sudden I think.
TBF, the Martians seem to have their immigration situation under control.
@@ginojaco It is the same for Man United....They are desperate to get back to the good old days and a change in management has not served them well....Same with the Tories....They changed management but still the same results....Labour are in because.....they can´t be worse.... but let´s see in a years time how the economy is shaping up....
"Labour is doing incredible damage to this country". Tories did a pretty good demolition job themselves.
Do Reform have enough MPs to lead government now?
They were both now terrible.
Reform all the way.
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@@El.Cid71No but they will do. Both Labour and Con-servatives are finished as they actively work against ordinary British people.
@@colinstewart1432 hahaha they will do with what 6 MPs. Reform are a joke
The Tories were useless.
Labour are purposely destructive.
Our only hope is Reform.
Labour and Tories, the Uniparty.
And jimbo the clown 🤡
Labour are just doing what the tories were doing but alot quicker
You ready to concede Labour won yet?
@El.Cid71 never
@@El.Cid71Labour won with half a million less votes than the previous they got at the previous election, therefore even less people wanted them in power than did before. Just demonstrates that the system allows even the less popular parties to gain power, which is plain stupid.
Labour have lost even more votes since and continue on to self destruction while doing their damn best to take the country to oblivion along with them.
Ex tories, Ex labour, don't want them, new hope new beginning, trying to save their own political career, drain the swamp
Well said
Labour and Tories are a bickering couple that have neglected their responsibilities that is the public.
We need a change from these stale and divisive parties who break their promises. We need to give a different party a chance to run the country. Reform hasn’t betrayed the public so we may as well get them in. 👍
Perhaps he has finally realised that the conservative and Labour parties are completely useless and he wants change
@@cuuurlyfries5246Reform..Tories MK2
Time to dump Revert and wait for Tommy to put a team together.
Farage despises the British working class, despite the C1/C2 class being 64% of his vote, that's "that lot" to use Tice's phrase.
He's done the right thing. More will follow. Reform is the only party that will do what the people want.
Vote uk reform
Not when its getting filled with poisonous Tories. UKIP as it.
How can you ask if new Torie leader should be given a chance after 14 years of Lies lies and more lies. Do you think we are stupid?
@@RonaldRowton this tory propaganda news channel thinks we all believe there so impartial ....just ask annie sparkles no way she a tory😃🤣😂😝
You must be if you think that Farage is a honest politician, no chance.
The Conservative party left us, not the other way around.😢
No where else for the middle right to go .. Reform UK..all the way..🇬🇧🇬🇧🏴🏴💪💪
The public just don't want reform 😂
Definitely.
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.... to the middle again, with a load more Tory nest featherer defectors helping them there? Screwing the British working classes all over again.
Farage despises the C1/C2 vote, despite it making up 64% of his support. Tommy's out in 6 months time now.
Reform's chairman is loyal to his faith, not our nation.
@@El.Cid71 Well, comrade, at the last election, it seems 4,117,610 actually did.
We need a GENUINE moderate Right wing main party in UK. The Tories are just a slightly more moderate Left wing party compared to Labour. Two cheeks from the same arse.
Two parties who still out manoeuvre Reform
@@El.Cid71 You should buy a radio, or read a few things on line, perhaps?
@@El.Cid71considering that reform was created in 2018 and labour was 1990 the conservative was 1834 seems like both party's have been in government for a very long time and have the majority of seats reform is 6 year old and is only been gaining ground into government with more seats give it some time and you'll see reform gain more and more and labour and the conservatives will lose more and more.
There's nothing left-wing about the tories. They ran public services into the floor.
It was Blair who kicked off the immigration problem. The Tories just ran with it and sadly failed the British people with Brexit. I also blame Labour for the Brexit failure. Once the British people voted for it, both parties should have worked together to make it happen. Unfortunately, Labour chose instead to do everything they could to sabotage it.
😂😂 life was a million times better under Blair than under tory austerity. And immigration went to record levels after farages brexit.
Another one that thinks that faster-than-light travelling doesn’t work because it has never been properly implemented 🤦🏻♂️
What utter rubbish, Blairs legacy still cripples this country to this day. @@bossa65
The Tories wouldn´t work with Labour....In fact, the Tories didn´t even want to work within the political constraints...
True. Take back control of borders etc. The losers trying to prevent it's implementation are the problem. Not those who expressed a clear democratic expression. The only time people got a say in their country's future and fools and tools try immediately to sabotage it. It's very sad and makes people angry .
🥶🥶🥶 OAP'S This Winter.
Every credit fella🙏🏻 , fair play 👌🏻👍🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻🇬🇧🙏🏻
The only way to save our great nations is to support and vote Reform UK.
@@tomwil1593 that’s not going to change anything until the next GE unfortunately! Some people think Local Elections results are going to change this appalling Governments cruel decisions or stupid anti Business policies! It will have absolutely no effect
Reform better not get being luke warm with tory trash. We want a NEW, UNITED, kingdom.
They are the tories, farage was a tory. If Reform do get it in, which is actually highly likely at this point then it's still the same two party system with the wool pulled over your eyes once again.
I would prefer more Labour voters to wake up.
That's what Ben Habib wanted. Independent Reformers not ex Torys.
@@AlanFagan-y5l There is only ex Labour or Conservative voters, starting Reform from fresh there is no other choice
Id have thought a bit of humility would be in order after a massive labour landslide win but alas the tears still flow from the right and reality still hasn’t hit 😂😂😂
Suella Braverman next
The biggest issue for the UK is Islam. Reform is not talking about the issue of islamification.
100% it's the shadow issue of the uk, bolstered further by immigration. It's ironic in every sense of the word that Labour and the rest of the left don't see it as a problem when they have the ideologies they do, persecuting women, homosexuals, apostates etc, their rates of arranged marriage, child marriage and polygamy, grooming gangs and people trafficking, their rates of domestic abuse and their disproportionate crime rates. It's a cult disguised as a religion (follows a man not a god, and a war mongerer at that). Why are they protecting these people? Have any of these leftists actually read the quran to see how anti non Muslim that book really is? And now they want protections against criticism? I
if it did as we would wish itv would be a proscribed party - we are gagged by defamation laws
You're not listening
@TruthHurts-s7g I know it is hard, but there is a stigma on the MSM, in Parliament, in public, in church, to talk about Islam. What I think Nigel should do is reverse that stigma. Make it a stigma to stop anyone talking about the real horrors of Islam and what islamification really means to our culture, values, and principles. They will all be plundered for the sake of sharia.
Nigel is absent without leave. He has become the stigmatis'er, those who follow will continue to act as he has begun to act.
He never used to be. He was a pioneer in the EU. Now he has become an Andrew Neil wannabe tv presenter with Islamic indoctrinated stigma dripping off him like a packet of sausages under the grill.
One last thing. why aren't all the Western and Islamic leaders saying. BRING BACK THE HOSTAGES OR THERE WILL BE HELL TO PAY. We know why the muslim leaders don't.
I hope you and almost everyone else starts listening.
@MarkAdams-os8is We can say the things we need to say in a non defamatory way. As we must do in any debate. We are talking about islam, an ideology, a set of ideas.
First, we highlight that there is no historical evidence for the claims muslims make about mhmnd. The issue is not that we need to convince muslims about how ridiculous their claims in the hadith are, but we need to convince everyone else, and by that means, stigmatise islam for the horror it has brought to the West by radical muslims who are compelled to live upon different principles and values according to islam. The conflict is made even amongst muslims, but even more so when culture, values, and principles of life and governance collide. Let us just change the conversation and be done with defending the most ridiculous false religion of all the false religions.
Reform do not accept these traitors. We need a clean break from the established parties.
I'm with you on that, though Reform must first attract as many Tory fence sitters in Order to make the real changes required going forward.
Reform should stage a couple now they have 100 million party members
I get the point but I think you are missing the bigger picture. Why is Lee Anderson so hated in westminster and called 30p Lee?
He rejected them. Twice. Both versions. Red and Blue.
They hate that rejection. It riles them up like you wouldnt believe.
Sorry - defectors have a role to play. Yes dominate the party with fresh talent but you need to kick bricks out of the wall too.
The reality is Reform will get a bunch. Purism is a no-goer in politics.
Lee Anderson said he was offered a bribe.Andrea Jenkyns said she was offered a bribe. Tim Montgomerie...?
Need a referendum on the voting system to the pr system make it happen bring it on need a referendum on leaving the echr scrap all foreign aid charity begins at home depot all illegal immigrants send them all back
Whoever will join Reform next? Theresa May? Gavin Barwell? Rory Stewart? It looks like the wetification of Reform has begun.
Bandwagon jumpers.
No for them
The whole system needs changing, real job before you become an MP and then two terms maximum. This guys has been in and around the government for a long time. No idea how most people have to live or how the real world works!
All patriot Tories should join reform
Farage has betrayed our country before and he will again. Traitors should be in prison.
Will have to rename the party Conform at this rate.
But he supported the Tories who wrecked the country 😂😂 plebs
Boris Johnson advisor😂
More power to Reform UK. The other parties don't deserve any support from thinking Brits.
Respectfully, "thinking Brits" see that Revert's non deportation and net zero immigration policies do nothing against the biggest threat to this nation since the little Austrian corporal - the inexorable march of 1sl4m.
Especially with an allegedly "non practising" one of them as Chair of a party still owned by two people.
let s go REFORM!!!
More and more jumping ship to reform party
Big difference
Reform can and will win in hard core liebour constituencies
Consocialists will never win in hardcore Liebour constituencies
Reform party are the future 👍🇬🇧🇬🇧
BEV FROM GB NEWS AND ALEX FROM TALK TV ,ARE GREAT STRIGHT TALKING LADYS .
“I’d be very surprised if I were not Conservative leader by ‘26. Very surprised.” Nigel Farage.
Reform must have patriots....not opportunists
That's why they accepted a "non practising" Muslim as Chair!!!!
He's a Tory in disguise instead
Montgomerie is not a politician, he is a commentator.
He was a conservative for 30yrs.you saw the mess they got us into.if you saw this happening for 14 yrs how come you leave this toxic marriage..now...🤔🤔🤔🤔.
He advised Boris? 🤣😂🤣🙃🙃🙃
The swamp is just changing teams. It won't be long before they are a majority in Reform, and start demanding the same things they always wanted in the Tories etc.
We need accountability, not a rebranding.
Never going to happen. Revert remains a majority owned party in the hands of one man with a bad history of falling out with, or doing down, people who threaten to overshadow him. Oh, and Tice but dim owns a few shares, but waits to be told what to say, think and do by HMV.
I hope Reform don’t come to regret this, I would not trust any of these so-called ‘politicians’ from the uniparty.
Lol the party is a joke
Reform are Tories, all once members of the Tory party.
@@DeneMonkey You prefer the current Marxist Clownshow clearly.
All of reform are tories 😂 the only difference is that reform supporters include the tin foil hat conspiracy nut jobs
Reform are Tories by a different name.
This is fantastic news. Well done Tim.
I am increasingly convinced that the Conservative Party has reached its end. My belief has solidified further following their decision to elect Kemi Badenoch as their leader, rather than opting for Robert Jenrick-a politician who had a clear stance on exiting the European Convention on Human Rights (ECHR).
This choice reflects a significant shift in the party's direction, one that I believe will alienate many of its core supporters. As time goes on, I anticipate that a growing number of individuals will become disillusioned with the Conservative Party and choose to align themselves with the Reform Party instead.
The political landscape is evolving rapidly, and this trend may very well signal a larger movement away from traditional Conservative values towards a more reformist agenda.
Why join Russia and Belarus as the only countries not in the ECHR?
Why bring in a French style healthcare system?
Why endanger the Good Friday Northern Ireland agreement?
Jenerick had a lot of other stances before that too!!!! NEVER TRUST A TORY!!!!!!!
Money, Money, Money, must be funny in a rich man's world
Kemi Badenoch has been an absolute disappointment. It's indicative of how messed up the Tories still are
Saw the writing on the wall... power-hungry... so jumps on the only remaining floating boat instead of going down with the one he helped sink.
Politics!
Another one over to Reform. Nigel better check that none of them are wearing a wire.
He is not an MP.
Reform have nothing to hide so a wire wouldn't be a problem.
However,if Labour were secretly recorded,the amount of sleaze would fill several books.
Well Done Tim and Guess What GB News there will be more members to Reform UK and people will carry on voting for them either so they will not win the next election next year.
Which election is that ?
What a mixed up load of crap.
Gobbledygook !!
We need to either change the voting system to PR or cap the period of time between general elections at 2 years to keep politicians honest.
Its funny how all the Right-wingers have suddenly realised that PR is the way to go as soon as the Rightie vote was split - when it was the LibDems / SNP / Labour splitting the left-wing vote, that was just fine.
Sadly for you, we had a Referendum in 2011 about the voting system, and we voted to keep FPTP. As we all know, once a Referendum has been held, the results are binding and can never be changed...😃
@@chrisphillips8365it wasn't a vote on PR tho was it ?....it was a vote on the AV ( alternative vote ) which was an impossible and confusing voting system designed to be so complicated they knew people would never vote for it
@@MrSirusDvirus The result of the vote was to retain FPTP. Thats all.
The rest of your comment is just your subjective interpretation.
@@chrisphillips8365 lol...cop out ???
@@MrSirusDvirus Its getting very "Daily Express" in here..
Enjoy the next 4.5 years.
Self preservation, is all this is. Don't trust the tories!!!
It’s true, if Robert was elected Tory leader I would’ve kept my allegiance
Really after 14 years of Tories ruining this country
I think he would have been a better leader but not sure I would support the Tories.They had 14 yrs to sort out immigration and didn’t have the nerve to do it
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How do you know when a politician is lying? "Their lips are moving..."
That's great let the Tories join reform great idea the people who have destroyed the UK since Thatcher and Regan general Pinochet and Milton Friedman lovely jubley. Let's make the UK great again
Don't worry we will never let those in Westminster forget what the UK was like 30 years ago and before ww2.
Free health care affordable housing a nation to be proud of with people from all around the world living in peace and harmony for the best part pubs to go to things to do we could afford to live. Destroyed this nation for greed and today you can't even tell us what you want.
Racists fascists anti Semitic islamaphobic and we can all see where it comes from now and so can they in Westminster now. You dragged us all back in time just remember we had the biggest empire in recorded history and not many nation states existed you turned the best nation in the world 30 years ago into this today not us.
Just think how amazing these people could make the UK with the power they have and a nation behind them they just don't care in Afraid. Any nation now arguing over health care when we had a great free health care system you don't really need to know anymore and people who want us to live like this.
The more conservatives that join reform, the more alike it'll become to the conservative party which is why people voted reform - because conservatives didn't represent the nation.
Sad to see reform moving this way and eventually capitulate to the state where we'll be back to voting between Tory(reform) or labor. 2 sides of the same coin and no change.
thats always what Reform was and always what Farrage was. why are people shocked?
The Conservatives are still divided and Reform isn't, the one's that join Reform agree with them.
@BigFoot02 "Reform isn't divided"? I sincerely hope that's a joke. Ben Habib, co-founder of the party, left because their ideals have shifted so much to try and appeal to the centre-left of politics.
Why would farage not commit to deportations in a recent interview if not to try and appear more mainstream? People voted reform because immigration is the number 1 issue in the UK.
Reform🇬🇧
If Reform stands down in my seat I'll be furious. I am NOT voting Tory, I'd rather stay at home.
So how many MPs do Reform have now? Hopefully more Conservatives will wake up and realise that Reform are the only party who are in touch with the nation.
REFORM needs a few old labour in now
Farage welcomes rebels because Reform is a 'rebel' party? Tell that to Ben Habib et al...
Ben Habib is very confused.
@uingaeoc3905 Successful parties are coalitions with a breadth of talent - & opinion. Their differences are put aside for the common purpose - winning elections. They are not one man tribute acts that boot out popular and talented people and that will collapse once that one man is no longer leader. Exiling Habib and co was a serious political error - and bloody selfish. There's a lot more at stake than Farage's fragile ego - like the country itself.
Ben has disappointed me greatly.
@@DominicAllaway-hi3fn Habib was not 'exiled' he left - / resigned because he could not get his way.
@@joannaennis7866 I like him - but his criticisms were frankly, strange.
Well done Tim Montgomerie! You are worthy of your ancient name.
Never heard of this bloke but this has been going on for years between all Political Parties
If the 'Conservatives' and 'Reform' joined forces they could become 'Conform'!
No , the tories are history and good .
Vote Reform UK 🇬🇧.
Let's make the UK safe and secure again.
Doubt they had to bribe little Tim much….doubt it was £80,000
Why having people who failed badly over 14yrs is a good agenda Labour will say just old Tory party with new name
We don’t want them! They all need to change.
Tory's will take over Reform, Reform will pick a new leader who will be a Tory, then we vote the Tories back in under a different name.
Let us dream, just for a little while. 😢
What a load of crap, Reform will take the Conservatives under Nigel.
Can't pick a new leader..Farage owns the party
@@AlanFagan-y5l For now, they will democratize.
The Tories and Labour are both following the same script on illegal immigrants, let them all in and ignore the British public saying stop it.
Honestly if someone has been in politics for that long then there is a problem.
At this rate are they Reforming the British Democracy or the Tory party? 33 year Tory veteran establishment advisor to Boris Johnson now part of the new movement? Is Farage still not vetting?
I'm just waiting for Gary Lineker and Carol Vorderman to be poached by Reform. 🤯
Dont need failed tory people, use your loyal reform members instead.
gotta look after the pennies jump ship reform better becarefull
Where has this turncoat been for the last 14 years ?
Do tell me that a tease from musk and 100 million is not something these party jumpers think off
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Good man Tim reform .
what a snake
Stop courting Conservatives!!!
So you'd support Lee Anderson being ejected from the party?
That's ridiculous. Reform haven't got the luxury of turning their nose up at defections. They need numbers and he votes that comes with them.
@reddeadbret4218 I agree with Ben Habib. Go see his interview segments with Lotus Eaters.
@@crayzmarc More whining. The bloke messed up a completely winnable seat with his stupid Talk TV interview. Good riddance.
Brilliant Tim, you are a star.
Did he say any of this while in the Tory party .?
Need to see their voting record in the house before excepting them into reform.
Boris Johnson's advisor on social justice joined Conform!
Carnt wait see anne diamonds disbelief that another tory left her sinking ship
@@elky1883She has joined the GB Reform channel herself.
Breaking news farage has just asked nick clegg to be its spokesperson😂
At this rate, the reform will not reform anything; it will only reflect the old attitudes of the "conservative" party. People forget that a party is the expression of its parliamentary body. Deep down, these old conservatives are only going for the reform to save their asses, but they will continue to reflect the old attitudes and beliefs when it comes to actually exercising political power. This aspect of complete commercialization, the materialization of modern politics, is one of the things I most detest. But it will probably be difficult to get out of this system because that is what a democracy does over time. It becomes nothing more than a competition to stay in power at all costs and take advantage of the compulsory public money that goes into their hands.
before long it will be an avalanche of mp's joining reform u.k.
There's got to be some form of coalition between the Tories and Reform next time as Labour have to be got rid of. Not sure how this would work in practice if the results were similar to this year?
Let's hope Zia taps him on the shoulder for a job.
You have no idea most reform voters are ex Labour voters once north of Watford gap
It was certain MPs in the Tories that kept blocking means of stopping cutting down the immigration numbers our MPs will refuse to ditch the ECHR wich is being manipulated distorted to allow millions and millions to leave their own country because their pwn country refuses to care for their needs and head for the UK knowing they will live for free.
what you don't want in reform is old mandarin's from the tory party, you need fresh new people who love this country and are able to take it forward not backwards as a tory revamp, if you don't get your act together now you'll have no chance at the next election.
Any MP or former MP from any political party seeking to join Reform UK should only be considered if they are willing to publicly and unequivocally denounce their former party. This denunciation must take the form of a signed written statement and/or a video, explicitly outlining how their previous party, along with their own actions and support, has contributed to the decline of the UK’s social fabric, economy, and public trust. Such accountability is essential to demonstrate a genuine ideological break with their past affiliations.
Particularly and especially, former members of the Conservative Party must confront their unique responsibility in enabling the policies and decisions that have eroded public confidence and undermined the nation's core values. As the party most ideologically proximate to Reform UK, Conservatives pose the greatest risk of entryism-bringing with them the compromises, failures, and political baggage that have diluted true conservative principles. To mitigate this threat, Conservative defectors must provide an unambiguous rejection of their former party's direction, as well as a clear and principled commitment to Reform UK’s values.
These measures are not only critical to protecting Reform UK’s ideological integrity but also to ensuring that new members contribute positively to its mission as the UK’s only true conservative voice. They safeguard the party from opportunistic joiners while reinforcing its distinct and uncompromising stance in the political landscape.
A final note: The focus on Conservatives rather than other socialist-leaning parties-such as Labour, the Liberal Democrats, or the Greens-is intentional. Members of these parties are ideologically distant from Reform UK, and the likelihood of their defection is minimal. By contrast, disillusioned Conservatives, who often view Reform UK as a natural political home, face a much smaller ideological leap. This proximity increases the risk of entryism, where individuals seek to join Reform UK without fully committing to its principles, potentially diluting the party’s conservative identity. Addressing this risk is vital to preserving the integrity and focus of Reform UK as the only party truly committed to conservative values.
Just saying!
Badenoch will not leave the ECHR
Jumping a sinking ship. He is thinking of his own career.
5:25 Their priority is getting rid of labour, you see, it's not about the absolute state of this country.
i wouldn't worry Tim .... you'll quickly figure out who are your real friends in the tory party and who never was
Jacob Reese Mogg would be a great addition to the party.
The immigration started with Labour and is now out of control.
There is no way STARMER will get off his backside and sort out the boats and deportations.
He’s only interested in his freebies which by the way he still looks awful.
More joy in Heaven...
Have you been?
So a wet liberal Tory joins and we are meant to be happy!! No way will I vote for an ex Tory party ( Reform)when I can think of many patriots that have been kicked from Reform. Because they like Tommy
Troll along then.
The state of this guy! I expect he has certain… er… ‘recreational’ hobbies that require some readies.
And he’s sniffed out the Musk windfall.
Reform is doomed allowing all these chancers in!
Welcome Tim you are one of my favourite MPs.
He's not an MP🙄
you plonker 🤣
Reform are getting some good MPs hope it keeps up.Kemi is ok but don’t think she will do anything to stop the boats she doesn’t seem keen on leaving the ECHR which we need to do
This is great!