We are sitting here talking about Jokić in the same conversation is Wilt. How can this guy not be 2025 MVP? SGA has been amazing but this guy has been legendary.
Go back and look up how few MVP's Wilt has despite the numbers he put up. If you want him to get what Wilt got, he's only 1 MVP off from Wilt despite Wilt dominating for twice as long. If you want him to be treated like Wilt, he has 1 more MVP to win for the rest of his career. lol Or do you want him to be treated better than Wilt? lol Be honest now.
@@FiveFactExpress Sounds about right. Y'all want your players to be treated better, then you'll act like that actually makes them better. lol That was simple enough.
What's CRAZY is that Jokic brings the ball up the courst 50% of the time and they KNOW they can't steal it from him without him getting a DIME on them ,.lol~ Total GOAT~
@@jaymac4220 Yeah,.But Gordon has gotten fatt and can't play defense,.They need to make a move at the Deadline,.Maybe Porter for Butler?~ DEFENSE IS BADD ; (
Quick geography/history lesson. Although Arvydas Sabonis’s prime was during the time when Yugoslavia existed that is not where he is from. Instead Garnett should have said USSR as Sabonis is from the former Soviet state/ current independent nation of Lithuania. A lot of confusion seems to come from the terms Balkan and Baltic where Yugoslavia was roughly Balkan and Lithuania Baltic.
It's probably 3/4 of it. I read that recent biography about him and it kind of supports that idea in that when he was a kid, he could excel in basketball without really trying, but was easily distracted, was quick to want to do other stuff, hated practice, etc. In gifted kids you'll often see that kind of impatience...they're already ahead of the curve and don't want to go over rudimentary stuff again. You can see that kind of thing with him today...like earlier in the season if you watch that footage of Gobert and Ant being amazed he knew the play they were running and explaining it to his teammates without anyone on the Wolves actually saying it out loud. His biggest challenge was getting into better shape his first few years in the league...as his diet had been garbage for years leading up to being drafted.
@@J-Hue The biggest player who can do what he does.....there's a practically never-ending list of big stiffs who passed through the league who couldn't touch that level of play.
Size helps. He can see over the defense. Passing from a standstill, bigs have an advantage. It's off the dribble passing guards have an advantage at. Joker's got a unique role on his team, his team obviously trusts him with the ball. Not sure if his BBIQ is higher than someone like CP, but he's got a special combo of IQ and talent. Joker's got nice footwork for someone his size, he's an underrated basketball athlete. Also, he's a really good team defender at a challenging position.
@@KClouisville Right. But the same way Shaq dominated largely because of his size, Jokic and Embiid benefit likewise. He couldn't do what he does with his sub par conditioning and quickness from lack of physical training, if not for his size.
He is the best athlete since Jordan and I hated Jordan and he's not as athletic as Jordan but this man is special like wilt and actually Bird maybe that gymnast maybe Thorp or Lewis this man is a sevant
@@Obiahjonesbro are you serious….lebron is most definitely the best damn Athlete….joker just got good what in the last 5-6 years!! How long he’s been in the league! How quickly Yall forget about lebron kd and curry!!! I’ll even throw Luka in there
@lol Lebron has been on PEDs for 6 years at least he is a better athlete but its taken more players to lose Lebron championships than any other player in history he will go down as a top 12 player of all time once he retires, the PEDs have destroyed the league
I'm a Jokic fan but the Shai hate is extremely weird. He's far ahead of Ja and Ant as players and is having a historical MVP season where he would be an unanimous winner as the best offensive player in the game if the greatest Basketballer ever wasn't having the best season in NBA history so far.
@@mohamed6226 No hate for Shai here hes a fantastic player. Hes simply not as good or as valuable a player as the three i mentioned. Historic season?? 32-5-6 and 33% from 3? What if a player was 35-10-9 would he be unanimous MVP? Because thats what Luka had last year and finished 3rd in the biggest snub for years. People raving about Shais career 54-8-5 game, when Lukas 73-10-7 just got swept under the carpet by the media. US media just loves to press the narrative thats all it is.
@@moz7777 SGA has led his teams to more wins than Luka, 3 years straight. Advanced analytics have rated him as more impactful than Luka for 2-3 years straight. Right now, he's shown himself to be the better player by a slim margin. In fact, he's the only wing player who's Overall impact metrics have reached the levels of Jokic, Giannis, and a healthy Embiid. Nobody else has gotten that high.
@@moz7777or shai is way better defender and actually plays both sides of the game…..Boston couldn’t gameplan to attack shai every-play like they did in the embarrassing finals to luka. You lost I know u won’t reply
Really? It hurts my ears honestly. I clicked the video because I'm also Serbian, but this ghetto vocabulary is disgusting. I feel like telling him to get educated and read a book. I guess this is just a part of USA ghetto culture, playing tough etc.. But literally everywhere else in the world this is looked down upon. Show some manners, culture, education and people will actually appreciate you, not this garbage.
I don't understand why folks still say Jokic is not athletic, I don't know what they are talking about. He shoots with grace and precision, his moves around the basket are quick and astonishing, he can jump for rebounds three times before anybody else gets off the floor once, watch the games please, no more cliches.
They're talking about general speed, leaping ability and lateral quickness.....common high points as to what makes a good basketball athlete. Jokic doesn't excel at any of that stuff....but he makes up for it in other areas so well it doesn't really matter. Jokic does have quick first moves and his timing on rebounds is great....but people don't generally think of stuff like timing as an athletic ability....or at least a natural, biological athletic ability....more of the mental game plays into it too. I watched Larry Bird and it was similar....he wasn't a super "natural athlete" either (though before his back injury he was more athletic than people nowadays think he was). However, he had a quick first step, great timing, great anticipation and super fast hands.
Funny thing is the athletic Center they consider can't keep up with Jokic during fastbreaks. Majority of Nuggets fast break you can see Jokic running the floor..
one season he focused on that and lead the league...Wilt could do it all/ 1976-68 8.6 assist. lead in rebounds, fg%, and was 3rd in scoring. 1st in assist.
@@mja4wp I would agree, as Wilt has been deceased (RIP) for a few years now ;) Back in his playing days, Wilt was far more athletic (world class athlete in track/field, baseball and volleyball), faster (world class speed - beat Jim Brown in a race), bigger / stronger (no question there as Wilt's strength was legendary) and had far more endurance (lead the league numerous times in mins played and had a season where he averaged more than 48 mins per game - no such thing as load-management back in his day). Wilt played in a totally different era, where centers took a physical beating every game. Wilt had his two front teeth knocked out by an opposing player in his rookie season. Joker is blessed with many gifts and today's NBA is a great fit for him. Put him in the game 20+ years ago and things would be totally different for him and his style of play. It's likely he would have played power forward given his gift at passing. Wilt would also be a natural fit for today's game and would be a monster given, as previously stated, his athleticism, speed, strength and endurance. Now only if the Big Dipper could have hit free throws = like many of the great big men of the past (Shaq and Russel to name just two), that was his kryptonite ;)
@ you are correct about the list of things you mention - and he did more...he had the lungs and ability to play 2 full games a day and then go out and put 5-6 notches in is belt and do it all again the next day. he should have been studied by science.
0:43 Sabonis was 8 years old in 1972 0:56 He played for the USSR, not Yugoslavia 1:44 "He's gonna go down as one of the greatest centers" He's already one of the greatest PLAYERS ever
He is probably the best player ever, there's only so long we can ignore the numbers. That being said for my interpretation of GOAT and top 10, the era matters in the sense that each player builds on what came before. So that's where this gets trickier in terms of ranking but there's no way he's not top 5 all time unless he like dies tomorrow.
@ the only reason each and every player steps on the court is to ultimately win the cup. Or else we might as well just be watching street-ball or Harlem globetrotters. The definng characterstic of ALL propfessional sports is to win the final prize.
@@haqq1 no he doesn't need any more rings. He won, and under the new rules it's almost impossible to go b2b. He can't hop around forming superteams. It was always hard to win the right way, that's why those rings are worth 5x more than mickey mouse rings.
@ I'm sorry man you cant have this convo with just 1 ring vs Jordan's 6 or Magic's 5, that's just ridiculous. No one's asking him to match or have more than them, but at least have 3. There's a reason MJ is considered greater than Bill Russel, even though Russel has 11 rings, that's because people do consider the "era: factor. But there's no way that's even a discussion if Jordan had just one ring. This is just silly.
We refer to Wilt as this mythological being in basketball. Jokic is being put in the same tier if not better and yet we can't have an honest conversation that he's winning MVP this season.
Wilt was actually super athletic. Which joker isn’t. Wilt played in an era where he towered most ppl too. Joker is tall but no vertical and most teams have people as tall or taller than him. Too me makes what he doing that much more impressive with just pure skill.
Yes, daddy Sabonis was Joker before Joker, only way more athletic and significantly better in defense. Comming from a Serbian guy. Props to KG for knowing his game before he finally came to the NBA, tired, old and broken.
Sabonis Sr a great, obviously, and they’re both very great passers and shooters. But Arvydas a bit taller and a bit more traditional a center. Who’s greater, S Sr in his pre-Portland prime or Joker? Hmm. Can’t say for sure because I didn’t see a lot of S at his best. It’s close. I’d go with Joker, probably. They’re not that much alike.
KG when playing talks trash all the time but now he is out and matured gives credit where credit is due😂 glad he didnt turn into bitter old heads like some.
Pierce falling back on the tired trope of "who's the face of the league"? The good thing about sports history is that it is about statistics first and 50 years from now, no one will care who "the face of the league was" when reciting Jokic's historical stats. So tired of the likes of Pierce and Agent alwaysZero continuously working to undermine Jokic's talent because he doesn't fit their idea of an NBA alpha. Get over it.
Guards will always be the face of the league. When people watch them they are infinitely more stylish and relatable, and it affects viewers emotionally. As great and efficient as big men get, no one can relate to them because they are such genetically gifted behemoths.
Good point. For example i could never relate with Messi becouse Messi was prodigy, geniusc God given.. bur Cristiano Ronaldo was always on my mind.. becouse he was hard working guy.. everyone say he is incredible, bur no one said he is genius like for Messi.. Messi was 1.65 tall and i couldnt relate with him, while Ronaldo is normal height
Jokic=Wilt, he's better actually, but yall idiots want to say Ja, Ant are the "Face of the League". Both are fricking delinquents. That's why this league will continue to decline. Jokic, Luka is right in front of your face, but you won't embrace them because they don't fit the "culture."
About Jokic. I think You Yanks/Murikans needs to change how you train your youths in basketball. Instead of putting all your exp points in Athletics, they should instead put more time and focus in basics and fundamentals
Wilt was giant playing with weaker opposition compared to today’s EVOLVED players. If Wilt plays with today’s player, with ball handling skills alone he would commit a lot of turnovers. Remember how Kareem shut him down. Now, imagine Jokic playing basketball with the caliber of players that wilt was playing with. Jokic is the better and evolved version of Wilt.
@ Wilt Played against Kareem in his prime. And blocked his skyhook twice. The video is there in RUclips. And Wilt was old already. Guys can’t play 82 games now yet they are better. Tyler Hero would be snapped in half if he went up for a layup in those days. The dude barely eats.
carbon copy of Sabonis? the guy who never had anything CLOSE to what Jokic is having on a bad night? carbon copy of THAT? Sabonis was great, but never this great. Domantas, the son, is having better games in his sleep compared what his pops had. Ye, he was old when he got to the NBA. But miss everyone, not just me, with the bullshit. Sabonis was never and would never be anything compared to what Jokic is and was for 5 or more even years now.
OMG i actuly cant watch all this videos and podcast couse you brothers aint getting that hood accent and frazes out of media... i mean, i need to focus to understand. Pls learn to speak normal english if hosting shows so evryone can watch not just the boyz from the hood.
@J-Hue Well i wanted to hear what they have to say and they want my like and sub dont they? Social media became shithouse, evryone doing whatever they think is OK. Its time to put people on TV who can realy tell something the way evryone underatands. They are actuly talking prety smart thing to bad half people just leaves after 30 seconds of hood language and laughing like ita comedy evry 15 sec.
Bro ain’t in the conversation as wilt we talking about a guy who average 30 and 20 for his career 😂😂. Not to mention all the blocks and other stats they didn’t record. They actually change the game because of how dominant he was lol
@@junioradult6219 Him and Wilt both benefitted from the same thing, dominating in much smaller eras where it's easier for players to put up crazy numbers. It doesn't make either of them objectively better than the great bigs of the 90's and 2000's. They just have more freedom as players to dominate.
@@junioradult6219Westbrook average a triple double what I are you talking about. And other players have just as great seasons. All- around seasons not just offense. Wilt seasons dude was averaging like 8 blocks a game 😂😂
@@junioradult6219 and centers in that era didnt play with ball in their hand that much like they are pg so he couldnt avg 10 assists but wilt was probably close to triple double but with blocks😂
I still think Wilt is more dominant. But they really had so much in common yet also very different. Jok shoots, pass and thinks (basketball IQ) better obviously. On the other hand, Wilt was a freak of an athlete but finessed his way instead of imposing his physique.
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We are sitting here talking about Jokić in the same conversation is Wilt. How can this guy not be 2025 MVP? SGA has been amazing but this guy has been legendary.
Go back and look up how few MVP's Wilt has despite the numbers he put up. If you want him to get what Wilt got, he's only 1 MVP off from Wilt despite Wilt dominating for twice as long.
If you want him to be treated like Wilt, he has 1 more MVP to win for the rest of his career. lol Or do you want him to be treated better than Wilt? lol Be honest now.
Better, yes. @@J-Hue
@@FiveFactExpress
Sounds about right. Y'all want your players to be treated better, then you'll act like that actually makes them better. lol That was simple enough.
@@J-Hue jokic is better lol
@@dontAtMe69420
Better at putting up stats, but not at putting wins together.
The people from the future built him & sent him back in time to fix the NBA because it was so freakin bad when they live...he is The Hoopinator.
Be quiet non hooper
@@willtdabuff64 🧂🧂
What's CRAZY is that Jokic brings the ball up the courst 50% of the time and they KNOW they can't steal it from him without him getting a DIME on them ,.lol~
Total GOAT~
good point/observation, other teams gotta pick their poison with the Joker
@@jaymac4220 Yeah,.But Gordon has gotten fatt and can't play defense,.They need to make a move at the Deadline,.Maybe Porter for Butler?~ DEFENSE IS BADD ; (
Quick geography/history lesson. Although Arvydas Sabonis’s prime was during the time when Yugoslavia existed that is not where he is from. Instead Garnett should have said USSR as Sabonis is from the former Soviet state/ current independent nation of Lithuania. A lot of confusion seems to come from the terms Balkan and Baltic where Yugoslavia was roughly Balkan and Lithuania Baltic.
Too, late 😂. He Yugoslavian now, dog.
@SFUSW no one ever mentioned Pordingus. Why u even injecting him in the conversation? He an OK center.
@SFUSW ANY, conversation.
@SFUSW That's right, Go to sleep 💤
Bro, You ask too much from these guys 😂😂😂
It's all IQ, probably the greatest decision maker in sports history
It's probably 3/4 of it. I read that recent biography about him and it kind of supports that idea in that when he was a kid, he could excel in basketball without really trying, but was easily distracted, was quick to want to do other stuff, hated practice, etc. In gifted kids you'll often see that kind of impatience...they're already ahead of the curve and don't want to go over rudimentary stuff again. You can see that kind of thing with him today...like earlier in the season if you watch that footage of Gobert and Ant being amazed he knew the play they were running and explaining it to his teammates without anyone on the Wolves actually saying it out loud. His biggest challenge was getting into better shape his first few years in the league...as his diet had been garbage for years leading up to being drafted.
Him being the biggest player on the court most nights is arguably the biggest factor.
@@J-Hue The biggest player who can do what he does.....there's a practically never-ending list of big stiffs who passed through the league who couldn't touch that level of play.
Size helps. He can see over the defense.
Passing from a standstill, bigs have an advantage.
It's off the dribble passing guards have an advantage at.
Joker's got a unique role on his team, his team obviously trusts him with the ball.
Not sure if his BBIQ is higher than someone like CP, but he's got a special combo of IQ and talent.
Joker's got nice footwork for someone his size, he's an underrated basketball athlete.
Also, he's a really good team defender at a challenging position.
@@KClouisville
Right. But the same way Shaq dominated largely because of his size, Jokic and Embiid benefit likewise. He couldn't do what he does with his sub par conditioning and quickness from lack of physical training, if not for his size.
Jokic is WAY MORE than just "best center of his generation"
WAY MORE
He is the best athlete since Jordan and I hated Jordan and he's not as athletic as Jordan but this man is special like wilt and actually Bird maybe that gymnast maybe Thorp or Lewis this man is a sevant
@@Obiahjonesbro are you serious….lebron is most definitely the best damn Athlete….joker just got good what in the last 5-6 years!! How long he’s been in the league! How quickly Yall forget about lebron kd and curry!!! I’ll even throw Luka in there
@lol Lebron has been on PEDs for 6 years at least he is a better athlete but its taken more players to lose Lebron championships than any other player in history he will go down as a top 12 player of all time once he retires, the PEDs have destroyed the league
KG keepin it real. Always.
Another year another variant of Perkins syndrome
Face of the league should be Jokic, Luka and Giannis..
not Ja, Edwards and Shai, but that dont fit the narrative.
I'm a Jokic fan but the Shai hate is extremely weird. He's far ahead of Ja and Ant as players and is having a historical MVP season where he would be an unanimous winner as the best offensive player in the game if the greatest Basketballer ever wasn't having the best season in NBA history so far.
@@mohamed6226 No hate for Shai here hes a fantastic player. Hes simply not as good or as valuable a player as the three i mentioned.
Historic season?? 32-5-6 and 33% from 3?
What if a player was 35-10-9 would he be unanimous MVP? Because thats what Luka had last year and finished 3rd in the biggest snub for years.
People raving about Shais career 54-8-5 game, when Lukas 73-10-7 just got swept under the carpet by the media.
US media just loves to press the narrative thats all it is.
@@moz7777
SGA has led his teams to more wins than Luka, 3 years straight. Advanced analytics have rated him as more impactful than Luka for 2-3 years straight. Right now, he's shown himself to be the better player by a slim margin.
In fact, he's the only wing player who's Overall impact metrics have reached the levels of Jokic, Giannis, and a healthy Embiid. Nobody else has gotten that high.
to be fair jokic would HATE to be face of the league, that would be a nightmare for him
@@moz7777or shai is way better defender and actually plays both sides of the game…..Boston couldn’t gameplan to attack shai every-play like they did in the embarrassing finals to luka. You lost I know u won’t reply
I can hear KG talk all day
Too much N words 😂
with adlibs from P 😂
Really?
It hurts my ears honestly. I clicked the video because I'm also Serbian, but this ghetto vocabulary is disgusting.
I feel like telling him to get educated and read a book.
I guess this is just a part of USA ghetto culture, playing tough etc.. But literally everywhere else in the world this is looked down upon. Show some manners, culture, education and people will actually appreciate you, not this garbage.
@@LolWTF001just basketball talk nothing personally
I don't understand why folks still say Jokic is not athletic, I don't know what they are talking about. He shoots
with grace and precision, his moves around the basket are quick and astonishing, he can jump for rebounds
three times before anybody else gets off the floor once, watch the games please, no more cliches.
They're talking about general speed, leaping ability and lateral quickness.....common high points as to what makes a good basketball athlete. Jokic doesn't excel at any of that stuff....but he makes up for it in other areas so well it doesn't really matter. Jokic does have quick first moves and his timing on rebounds is great....but people don't generally think of stuff like timing as an athletic ability....or at least a natural, biological athletic ability....more of the mental game plays into it too. I watched Larry Bird and it was similar....he wasn't a super "natural athlete" either (though before his back injury he was more athletic than people nowadays think he was). However, he had a quick first step, great timing, great anticipation and super fast hands.
@@KClouisville I don't think they know what they are talking about, actually, it's just
a cliche festival. It gets old.
Funny thing is the athletic Center they consider can't keep up with Jokic during fastbreaks. Majority of Nuggets fast break you can see Jokic running the floor..
Athleticism- strength, speed, power, agility, anaerobic capacity, aerobic capacity, mobility, balance and coordination, mental resilience, and stability.
Yup Wilt also wanted to give assists to team
one season he focused on that and lead the league...Wilt could do it all/ 1976-68 8.6 assist. lead in rebounds, fg%, and was 3rd in scoring. 1st in assist.
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Jokic has the nicest touch around the rim I think ive seen
Jokic is the mvp. Not even a debate.
Jokic often leads the fastbreak, hes actually an athletic guy. Show me a faster 300 pound guy thats 7 foot tall
Chamberlain was faster!
@ talkin bout right now in the nba today.
@@Mik-xq2co Chamberlain was faster, stronger and had more endurance; but Joker not that far behind.
@@mja4wp I would agree, as Wilt has been deceased (RIP) for a few years now ;)
Back in his playing days, Wilt was far more athletic (world class athlete in track/field, baseball and volleyball), faster (world class speed - beat Jim Brown in a race), bigger / stronger (no question there as Wilt's strength was legendary) and had far more endurance (lead the league numerous times in mins played and had a season where he averaged more than 48 mins per game - no such thing as load-management back in his day). Wilt played in a totally different era, where centers took a physical beating every game. Wilt had his two front teeth knocked out by an opposing player in his rookie season. Joker is blessed with many gifts and today's NBA is a great fit for him. Put him in the game 20+ years ago and things would be totally different for him and his style of play. It's likely he would have played power forward given his gift at passing. Wilt would also be a natural fit for today's game and would be a monster given, as previously stated, his athleticism, speed, strength and endurance. Now only if the Big Dipper could have hit free throws = like many of the great big men of the past (Shaq and Russel to name just two), that was his kryptonite ;)
@ you are correct about the list of things you mention - and he did more...he had the lungs and ability to play 2 full games a day and then go out and put 5-6 notches in is belt and do it all again the next day. he should have been studied by science.
0:43 Sabonis was 8 years old in 1972 0:56 He played for the USSR, not Yugoslavia 1:44 "He's gonna go down as one of the greatest centers" He's already one of the greatest PLAYERS ever
Truly appreciate your honesty, keep up the good work guys.
Jokic is crazy. I have never seen this type of production.
He is the only player I watch right now, he is facinating
GOAT
He is probably the best player ever, there's only so long we can ignore the numbers. That being said for my interpretation of GOAT and top 10, the era matters in the sense that each player builds on what came before. So that's where this gets trickier in terms of ranking but there's no way he's not top 5 all time unless he like dies tomorrow.
unfortunately u need couple of more rings to get in that convo. If nuggets dont do anythng by next season, he should head out.
@ I don’t care about rings for my rankings and frankly I don’t think anyone should tbh
@ the only reason each and every player steps on the court is to ultimately win the cup. Or else we might as well just be watching street-ball or Harlem globetrotters. The definng characterstic of ALL propfessional sports is to win the final prize.
@@haqq1 no he doesn't need any more rings. He won, and under the new rules it's almost impossible to go b2b. He can't hop around forming superteams. It was always hard to win the right way, that's why those rings are worth 5x more than mickey mouse rings.
@ I'm sorry man you cant have this convo with just 1 ring vs Jordan's 6 or Magic's 5, that's just ridiculous. No one's asking him to match or have more than them, but at least have 3. There's a reason MJ is considered greater than Bill Russel, even though Russel has 11 rings, that's because people do consider the "era: factor. But there's no way that's even a discussion if Jordan had just one ring. This is just silly.
We refer to Wilt as this mythological being in basketball. Jokic is being put in the same tier if not better and yet we can't have an honest conversation that he's winning MVP this season.
yup. pretty dirty huh. lotta race pushing media out there making this ridiculous push for SGA. numbers dont lie yo, simple math
Nice take, indeed.
Kudos to KG, knows the history and respects the Joker; no bias there.
Both those guys took a puff before that haha. They’re buzzing with their sunglasses on
Wilt was actually super athletic. Which joker isn’t. Wilt played in an era where he towered most ppl too. Joker is tall but no vertical and most teams have people as tall or taller than him. Too me makes what he doing that much more impressive with just pure skill.
I just can’t believe that he is so slow but has so much IQ game it’s insane
Arvydas Sabonis Portland legend!!!!
MVP
Jokic just walks em all down
Big Sabas is a nickname, KG is right :D
Sabas is Arvydas' nickname. He was from the Soviet Union though, not Yugoslavia.
the man joined NBA in 1995 when such a thing as the Soviet Union no longer existed. He was and is Lithuanian.
Half of comments on geography from euro that should known..
100% agree with KG, Ja and Ant.
Sabonis is from Lithuania, Jokic is from Serbia.
Same shit.
They're Communists
Been calling Joker Serbian Wilt Chamberlain ever since he beat my Heat in the Finals. Generational player.
"rockets for real" should be their motto has a nice ring to it
Jokic MVP
Jokic putting up numbers like wilt chamberlain while having a 6 inch vertical is my favorite part of the modern nba.
KG is the Cap crusader
Sabonis was Lithuanian not Jugoslavian😃
If they wanted wemby to be the face he’d be starting in the All Star game…
No Wembo has gotten no hype at all
Hes a gift from the horse lords
Jokic would of averaged 50,25 and 25 in wilts time. Quit comparing
No he wouldn't u peeping goofie
@ yeah he would have 🤣
@@moneymoney3235 only to lowlife who don't understand basketball would utter such nonsense.
Funny cause Wilt ACTUALLY averaged those numbers in Wilt's time.
@ no he didn’t. Never that assist. Jokic is another level he would have bullied those small plumbers
Yes, daddy Sabonis was Joker before Joker, only way more athletic and significantly better in defense. Comming from a Serbian guy. Props to KG for knowing his game before he finally came to the NBA, tired, old and broken.
I wanna talk ball with kg 😂
Jokic > Wilt
That's the correct equation.
Yugoslavia hahahahhaha
Jugosloveni nepostojeća nacija
Pre su mislili da smo mi Rusi/Sovjeti, sad misle da su oni mi hahah
Napredujemo
Paul Pierce is funny....he was thinking Sabonis Domas....Instead of Arvydas when KG clearly said the Father
0:10 😂😂😂 kg having me dying
You can never compare Arvydas to Jokic
2:07 yes it does. You jumped
Sabonis Sr a great, obviously, and they’re both very great passers and shooters. But Arvydas a bit taller and a bit more traditional a center. Who’s greater, S Sr in his pre-Portland prime or Joker? Hmm. Can’t say for sure because I didn’t see a lot of S at his best. It’s close. I’d go with Joker, probably. They’re not that much alike.
Maaaaaaaaannn... Ja ain't the face, that's crazy
Bros are stoned. 😂 Sabonis Yugoslavian. Didn't know that 😅
The funniest thing about it is if you really ask him it's just a job, he would rather be with his horses lol imagine if this was his first love !!!!
KG when playing talks trash all the time but now he is out and matured gives credit where credit is due😂 glad he didnt turn into bitter old heads like some.
Dude is the best player in the world hands-down stop with the dumb💩
Pierce falling back on the tired trope of "who's the face of the league"? The good thing about sports history is that it is about statistics first and 50 years from now, no one will care who "the face of the league was" when reciting Jokic's historical stats. So tired of the likes of Pierce and Agent alwaysZero continuously working to undermine Jokic's talent because he doesn't fit their idea of an NBA alpha. Get over it.
F KG he was hating a few years back. Keep the same energy.
Bro, they got dat Nemo fish 🐠 memory 😂. They like a Jack Russell terrier 🐕 when you throw Dat tennis ball out..
Why you act like people can't change.
Unless he's being a hypocrite, I don't see a problem with noticing you were wrong and changing your opinion.
@dismantledbrain5910 Cause he knew he was wrong back then, but stuck in his melanin, as others...
they can't do anything to hate anymore bro... They ran out of bullets.. Jokic is dominating the league. The only thing slowing down Jokic is Murray..
@@angahbg9089 lol true..... XD.. thank god we got russ.
Joker is the best! 🇷🇸💪
Yugoslavia😂😂
Sabonis was Soviet union player, not Yugoslavian
American education at its finest 😂
If they were taliking abiut sga like comparing him to mj then id understand
Guards will always be the face of the league. When people watch them they are infinitely more stylish and relatable, and it affects viewers emotionally. As great and efficient as big men get, no one can relate to them because they are such genetically gifted behemoths.
Good point. For example i could never relate with Messi becouse Messi was prodigy, geniusc God given.. bur Cristiano Ronaldo was always on my mind.. becouse he was hard working guy.. everyone say he is incredible, bur no one said he is genius like for Messi.. Messi was 1.65 tall and i couldnt relate with him, while Ronaldo is normal height
Always Serbs and Russians mistaken for one another smh! I'll help you out KG: Rakija is from Serbia (Ex-Yugoslavia), Vodka is from Russia (Ex-USSR) 😂
Jokic=Wilt, he's better actually, but yall idiots want to say Ja, Ant are the "Face of the League". Both are fricking delinquents. That's why this league will continue to decline. Jokic, Luka is right in front of your face, but you won't embrace them because they don't fit the "culture."
About Jokic.
I think You Yanks/Murikans needs to change how you train your youths in basketball.
Instead of putting all your exp points in Athletics, they should instead put more time and focus in basics and fundamentals
The only reason Joker is not the face of the league is racism.
Not sabos, sabonis. And its not yugoslavia, its USSR
He doesn't play against Hall of Famers night in and night put.
Wilt’s stat line in 1968 was 63 Pts 32 Reb 14 Ast 24 Blk and 11 Stl. Jokic is fundamental and amazing but no one is close to Wilt Chamberlain.
Wilt was giant playing with weaker opposition compared to today’s EVOLVED players. If Wilt plays with today’s player, with ball handling skills alone he would commit a lot of turnovers. Remember how Kareem shut him down. Now, imagine Jokic playing basketball with the caliber of players that wilt was playing with. Jokic is the better and evolved version of Wilt.
@ Wilt Played against Kareem in his prime. And blocked his skyhook twice. The video is there in RUclips. And Wilt was old already. Guys can’t play 82 games now yet they are better. Tyler Hero would be snapped in half if he went up for a layup in those days. The dude barely eats.
And Jokic is the closest thing to Wilt. Not is exact stats but the closest thing to his stats anyone has since since
thats dumb shit your talking kg. sabonis never played für yugoslavia - he was lithuanian .......
carbon copy of Sabonis? the guy who never had anything CLOSE to what Jokic is having on a bad night? carbon copy of THAT? Sabonis was great, but never this great. Domantas, the son, is having better games in his sleep compared what his pops had. Ye, he was old when he got to the NBA. But miss everyone, not just me, with the bullshit. Sabonis was never and would never be anything compared to what Jokic is and was for 5 or more even years now.
OMG i actuly cant watch all this videos and podcast couse you brothers aint getting that hood accent and frazes out of media... i mean, i need to focus to understand. Pls learn to speak normal english if hosting shows so evryone can watch not just the boyz from the hood.
They clearly didn't make the show for you, then.
@J-Hue Well i wanted to hear what they have to say and they want my like and sub dont they? Social media became shithouse, evryone doing whatever they think is OK. Its time to put people on TV who can realy tell something the way evryone underatands. They are actuly talking prety smart thing to bad half people just leaves after 30 seconds of hood language and laughing like ita comedy evry 15 sec.
Jokic is better than wilt. Wilt was playing bums
The greatest ever
Bro ain’t in the conversation as wilt we talking about a guy who average 30 and 20 for his career 😂😂. Not to mention all the blocks and other stats they didn’t record. They actually change the game because of how dominant he was lol
Sry but nobody since the 60s has had a good of season as jokic. His average is a triple double. If anyone is close to wilt its him
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Him and Wilt both benefitted from the same thing, dominating in much smaller eras where it's easier for players to put up crazy numbers.
It doesn't make either of them objectively better than the great bigs of the 90's and 2000's. They just have more freedom as players to dominate.
@@junioradult6219Westbrook average a triple double what I are you talking about. And other players have just as great seasons. All- around seasons not just offense. Wilt seasons dude was averaging like 8 blocks a game 😂😂
sabonis was bigger,stronger,faster and more athletic than jokic and he played defense😆
Did he average a triple double?
@@junioradult6219kid sabonis before injuries in 80s was like euro wilt😀
@@junioradult6219 and centers in that era didnt play with ball in their hand that much like they are pg so he couldnt avg 10 assists but wilt was probably close to triple double but with blocks😂
Child mind, never grew up. Drugs?
Just americans talking geography, nothing new.
Jokic is better than Wilt
JOKIC better than lebron
I still think Wilt is more dominant.
But they really had so much in common yet also very different.
Jok shoots, pass and thinks (basketball IQ) better obviously.
On the other hand, Wilt was a freak of an athlete but finessed his way instead of imposing his physique.